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| Session Start: Mon Dec 31 09:28:38 2007Session Ident: #FuturesTrades |
* Now | talking in #FuturesTrades | 09:28 |
<X> | [NihabaAshi] #FuturesTrades info @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/FuturesTradesChatRoom.htm and trade log archives @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/RecentTrades.htm |
<szubaark> | Shorts ES @ 1481 «« paper »» | 09:31 |
<NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 770.80 -> small size | 09:40 |
<szubaark> | Covered all Short ES at 1481.50 --> - 0.5 «« paper »» | 09:42 |
| Buys ES @ 1481.50 «« paper »» |
<NihabaAshi> | Intermarket analysis producing mixed price action :( | 09:45 |
| Gold going up and Oil going down | 09:46 |
<drs> | long er2 @ 770.9 | 09:47 |
<NihabaAshi> | Exited ER2 Long @ 770.30 --> - 0.5 | 09:53 |
| Reverse and Enter Short ER2 @ 770.30 |
<pat255> | this is not easy to trade .. |
<szubaark> | Exited all Long ES at 1480 --> - 1.5 «« paper »» |
<pat255> | wow nice flip N | 09:54 |
<szubaark> | Shorts ES @ 1480 «« paper »» |
<NihabaAshi> | Home sales leak :) |
<pat255> | ah ha i c,, |
| housing in 5 min |
<NihabaAshi> | normal economic report leaks or itchy fingers during holiday duration. | 09:55 |
<drs> | Stopped out @ 769.6 (at least no slippage!) |
| i was just about to exit @ b/e -- stalling around today's open, too close to announcement... | 09:56 |
<NihabaAshi> | Covered ER2 Short @ 768.90 --> + 1.4 | 10:00 |
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used by NihabaAshi, from entry to exit, exploit inefficiencies in the price action
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Index Futures (EMD, ER2, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (EC), Eurex
Index Derivatives (DAX, ESTX50), Euronext
Index Futures (FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX
Energy Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM),
COMEX Metals Futures (GC), Forex Currencies (EurUsd, EurYen, UsdCdn), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA,
GLD, OIH, IWM, QQQQ, SPY, XLE) and
Hang Seng Index Futures (HSI)
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<pat255> | vn N |
<NihabaAshi> | That may be all the volatility we are going to see this morning :( | 10:01 |
| volatility dropping fast | 10:05 |
| will watch closely to see if it has any meaning on a extremely low volatility day like today | 10:06 |
<pat255> | N u determine vol by? |
<base> | GM all |
<NihabaAshi> | volatility...not volume. |
<pat255> | how do u detremine it? |
<NihabaAshi> | pat255...that's a commonly asked question in here... |
<pat255> | y i know u ansered it too...dang forget it now .. | 10:07 |
| my bad ..:( |
<NihabaAshi> | Same answer via just "looking at" shrinking ranges on the intervals versus a prior range expansion. |
<pat255> | i c...ty |
<NihabaAshi> | Simple, contracting range versus expanding range. |
| Small intervals = contracting volatility | 10:08 |
<pat255> | y got that ...will observe .. |
<NihabaAshi> | Large range intervals = expanding volatility |
<drs> | Ym versus er2 not exactly corellated, are they? :-) | 10:10 |
<NihabaAshi> | correlated in what way??? | 10:11 |
| tick for tick ??? |
<drs> | just ym & es going up and er2 drifting down for last few 3 min bars... |
<NihabaAshi> | ER2 has a mind of its own sometimes :) | 10:12 |
| Long ER2 @ 769.40 -> small size |
| Off topic...does anyone know how Beijing China won the bid to host the Olympics while it has the "worst pollution and evironmental" problem in the world ??? | 10:14 |
| Many top athletes are boycotting out of fear for their health. |
<pat255> | hmm money & bribe the Olympic officials ..:) |
| recal there was a scandal 3-4 yeras ago on this issue |
<NihabaAshi> | Beijing mothers also has the highest infant abnormalities. | 10:15 |
<pat255> | y...pollution abounds .. |
<NihabaAshi> | Swedish female athletes have said they won't participate at the games. |
<pat255> | never eat anything imported from china.. |
<NihabaAshi> | Looks like it's going the be a unforgettable Olympics. | 10:16 |
<Bambam-77> | no real big players trading today most lots less than 300 no big 1k lots |
<NihabaAshi> | I was just curious how they won the Olympic bid with such dangerous pollution and health issues for the athletes. | 10:17 |
| I guess money talks :( |
<drs> | Yup |
<szubaark> | Weird Price Action | 10:18 |
<NihabaAshi> | Exited ER2 Long @ 768.80 --> - 0.6 |
| Reverse and Enter Short ER2 @ 768.80 |
<drs> | I'm a distance runner, and coaches have been cooking up legal anti-asthma attack regimens for their athletes... |
<szubaark> | Hopefully market decides on a Direction soon, hopefully Down, Im Short. |
<drs> | Air is bad enough there to trigger asthma attacks in "normal" people | 10:19 |
<szubaark> | every Volatility spike gets retraced :(( |
<NihabaAshi> | Gold looking a little exhausted | 10:23 |
| Oil still weak |
| Looks like everybody trying to get in sync now :) |
| Covered ER2 Short @ 767.90 --> + 0.9 | 10:25 |
<szubaark> | ES in a Tight, Choppy 2pt Zone | 10:26 |
<NihabaAshi> | Shorts ER2 @ 766.50 -> small size | 10:36 |
| crappy entry...still worth the trouble | 10:37 |
<szubaark> | This market isnt going anywhere :)) | 10:39 |
<NihabaAshi> | oh oh | 10:41 |
<pdays> | Long ER2 @ 766.0 «« paper »» | 10:42 |
<szubaark> | where is les? |
| Hopefully i can catch a WRB pt2 | 10:44 |
<pdays> | Exited all ER2 Long @ 765.0 --> - 1 «« paper »» |
<NihabaAshi> | Covered ER2 Short @ 764.80 --> + 1.7 | 10:45 |
<szubaark> | My Target is 12/21 Gap Close on ES or close there |
<pat255> | vn .. |
<NihabaAshi> | I only had a profit goal today of $250 and I've now reached that goal. | 10:46 |
<szubaark> | Good Job. Its tough action today |
<NihabaAshi> | szu...anybody not here today or for the past several trading days are most likely on "Holiday Vacation". |
<ItalianSharp> | hi all, just stopped by to say Happy New Year everyone...didnt expect to see many traders today |
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<NihabaAshi> | Thanks ItalianSharp and happy holidays too. |
| On that note...I'm done trading and back on vacation. | 10:47 |
<szubaark> | happy holidays to you |
<Andy> | Long ER2 @ 764.6 | 10:48 |
<Bambam-77> | next pos er trgt 762.60 | 10:54 |
| initial balance is 771.8 x 767.20 | 10:55 |
<silo> | what's initial balance? | 10:57 |
<Bambam-77> | hi low of first hr of trading |
<Andy> | Exited all ER2 Long @ 764.4 --> - 0.2 |
| ?away | 10:58 |
<Bambam-77> | next es trgt pos 1475.25 | 11:06 |
<szubaark> | Covered all Short ES at 1477.75 --> + 2.25 «« paper »» | 11:13 |
<Bambam-77> | trgt hit lets see if we get a bounce | 11:21 |
| 71.50 next pos trgt we have lot of weakness | 11:24 |
<X> | #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders and intermarket analysis of Emini Futures (EMD, ER2, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (EC), Eurex Derivatives (DAX, ESTX50), Euronext Futures (FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM) and Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) | 11:30 |
<NihabaAshi> | HAPPY NEW YEAR 2008 and another good year of trading all. | 11:40 |
| Those not meeting their trading goals...now is a good time to reflect and make changes for 2008 |
| My main goal for 2008 is the slowly begin increasing my overall position size so that by this time next year... | 11:41 |
| I want to be doing on average about 3x more size. |
| With a goal of doubling or tripling my profits in comparison to this year. |
<ItalianSharp> | wow niha, are you planning to ahve other kids in the family??? |
<Bambam-77> | always always take you predetermined stp and never add to lossing trade | 11:42 |
<NihabaAshi> | ItalianSharp...no :) |
<ItalianSharp> | :) | 11:43 |
<Bambam-77> | my 2 cents happy new year all i have to run |
<NihabaAshi> | I just want to keep doing what I've been doing for the past 20 years of trading. |
| Only difference is that I want to increase my position size. |
| I have the account size to do 15x what I'm doing now and still be within my risk parameters. |
<ItalianSharp> | wow...that's pretty amazing...you have a lot of upside potential to exploit | 11:44 |
<NihabaAshi> | Thus, 2x to 3x my current size is still low. |
| Yeah |
| However, I may have to move from ER2 and into something that can "easily" handle the size especially on difficult trading days when volatility is very low. | 11:46 |
| Not a problem because I'm not married to ER2. |
<silo> | also because er2 might start to slow down due to the exchange change | 11:47 |
<NihabaAshi> | Can easily move to ES, Treasuries, NYMEX or whatever. |
<silo> | what about NQ? |
<NihabaAshi> | ES is above NQ for liquidity | 11:48 |
<silo> | i know ... |
| i'm just saying |
<NihabaAshi> | Thus, if I move to another Emini... |
<silo> | nq has more liquidity than er2 |
<NihabaAshi> | ES would be my number one choice. |
<silo> | and it has prtty nice volatility |
| oh ok |
<NihabaAshi> | HOwever, for right now via the size I'm doing... | 11:49 |
| All the eminis are adequate. |
| Yet, that will change once I increase my size. |
| I know from experience that I've had problems many times in getting fills on 15 contract ER2 trades. |
<ItalianSharp> | Niha, are you planning some studying or practice with ES if you were to elect it your primary trading instrument? |
<silo> | oh i'm sure |
| er2 moves too fast |
| hard to get a good fill | 11:50 |
<NihabaAshi> | Italian...no practice. |
<silo> | probably same strategy right? |
| just slightly different management |
| of trades |
<NihabaAshi> | I've traded them all before very heavily. |
| I watch them all closely EVERY trading day as I do for ER2. |
<silo> | hey niha... when is chapter 4 of the wrb analysis (volatility breakout) coming out? |
<ItalianSharp> | I know that, however I am sure you won't be able to do all the things you've been doing on ER2 with ES due to its much lower volatility | 11:51 |
<NihabaAshi> | silo...please stop using this room for that conversation. |
| You are starting to cause a big problem :( |
<silo> | shit sorry |
<ItalianSharp> | Happy New Year all, see you on Wed | 12:10 |
<szubaark> | Buys ES @ 1477.50 «« paper »» | 12:17 |
* NihabaAshi | is now known as Nihaba_vacation | 13:15 |
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<szubaark> | Exited all Long ES at 1480.50 --> + 3 «« paper »» | 13:19 |
* szubaark | is now known as szubaark_Doneforyear | 13:20 |
<X> | #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders and intermarket analysis of Emini Futures (EMD, ER2, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (EC), Eurex Derivatives (DAX, ESTX50), Euronext Futures (FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM) and Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) | 13:36 |
<Andy> | Shorts ER2 @ 771.0 | 14:58 |
| Covered 3/4 ER2 Short @ 770.2 --> + 0.8 | 15:05 |
| Covered Remainder ER2 Short @ 771.0 --> 0 | 15:11 |
<Andy> | wishing everyone a safe and enjoyable new year's eve | 15:57 |
| gn all |
<Brutus> | ============ U.S. MARKETS ACTION =========== | 16:05 |
| DJIA down 68.94 points to 13296.93 |
| NASDAQ down 12.36 points to 2662.10 |
| S&P 500 down 5.59 points to 1472.90 |
| 10-year T-note up 11/32 at 101 23/32 yield 4.035 |
| NYMEX Spot Crude down $0.02 at $ 95.98/bbl |
| Dollar/Euro down 0.0128 at 1.4596 |
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| Happy new year everyone | 16:06 |
* codehead | is now known as codehead_afk | 16:09 |
<X> | #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders and intermarket analysis of Emini Futures (EMD, ER2, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (EC), Eurex Derivatives (DAX, ESTX50), Euronext Futures (FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM) and Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) | 17:45 |
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