|
|
|
#FuturesTrades purpose, benefits and access
info for day traders, swing traders and position traders...click
here. |
| Session Start: Fri Dec 28 00:00:00 2007Session Ident: #futurestrades |
<X> | #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders and intermarket analysis of Emini Futures (EMD, ER2, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (EC), Eurex Derivatives (DAX, ESTX50), Euronext Futures (FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM) and Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) | 00:29 |
* DisconnectedSession | Close: Fri Dec 28 00:40:58 2007 | 00:40 |
| Session Start: Fri Dec 28 09:27:23 2007Session Ident: #FuturesTrades |
* Now | talking in #FuturesTrades | 09:27 |
<X> | [NihabaAshi] #FuturesTrades info @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/FuturesTradesChatRoom.htm and trade log archives @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/RecentTrades.htm |
<NihabaAshi> | Anybody have any problems with their FutureSource Dax data this morning ??? | 09:28 |
<Nesi> | ok here |
| good morning |
<pat255> | gm all.. |
<Brutus> | was it 1/2 day on the dax niha | 09:29 |
<NihabaAshi> | DAX closed early today ??? |
| My data via two different vendors stop at 0800am est | 09:30 |
| FutureSource and QCharts. |
<Brutus> | same here |
<NihabaAshi> | However, both are now owned by Esignal :( |
| Simply, I'm without one of my key market source for my "intermarket analysis" for today :( | 09:31 |
<szubaark> | Buys ES @ 1498.25 «« paper »» | 09:32 |
| Exited all Long ES at 1496.50 --> - 1.75 «« paper »» | 09:34 |
| Shorts ES @ 1496.50 «« paper »» |
<NihabaAshi> | Shorts ER2 @ 786.10 -> small size | 09:35 |
<KiwiRoo> | futures are selling against the market sentiment.... |
<NihabaAshi> | intuition trade...high risk |
<KiwiRoo> | I'm guessing it will be 2sided today. | 09:36 |
<pat255> | paid off well... |
<NihabaAshi> | Covered 2/3 ER2 Short @ 784.80 --> + 1.3 | 09:37 |
| Covered Remainder ER2 Short @ 785.90 --> + 0.2 | 09:42 |
| |
Trading
Edge: Strategies |
If your an independent trader looking for an
edge to help you traverse around obstacles to profitable trading...a method
that's well defined, gives you a better understanding of the markets,
applicable for day trading, position trading, swing trading, market seasonal
tendencies, position size management, intermarket analysis with a money
back guaranteed policy...click
here. |
|
Trading
Strategies ->
Strategies
used by NihabaAshi, from entry to exit, exploit inefficiencies in the price action
for profits of the following trading instruments via WRB Analysis and
Intermarket Analysis: Emini
Index Futures (EMD, ER2, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (EC), Eurex
Index Derivatives (DAX, ESTX50), Euronext
Index Futures (FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX
Energy Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM),
COMEX Metals Futures (GC), Forex Currencies (EurUsd, EurYen, UsdCdn), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA,
GLD, OIH, IWM, QQQQ, SPY, XLE) and
Hang Seng Index Futures (HSI)
|
| |
<KiwiRoo> | 1501 look could be next on ES. | 09:46 |
<werner> | New Home Sales, in 10 min | 09:50 |
<KiwiRoo> | market sentiment still looking strong... price action is down. | 09:56 |
<NihabaAshi> | Shorts ER2 @ 785.00 -> small size | 09:58 |
| Covered 2/3 ER2 Short @ 783.80 --> + 1.2 | 10:00 |
<szubaark> | Nice Niha |
<KiwiRoo> | Pitts are selling... |
<pat255> | vn N |
<KiwiRoo> | gogo.... |
<NihabaAshi> | ER2 will soon try to find some support in this price zone. | 10:01 |
| I need to be careful here for any counter-thrusts back upwards if they appear |
<KiwiRoo> | ER2 was sitting at this price the whole night (overnight). | 10:02 |
<szubaark> | Waiting to see if this 5min candle finishes as a WRB so in can exit | 10:03 |
<pat255> | was reluctant to S being eoy ...sigh |
<KiwiRoo> | WRB ? |
<szubaark> | Wide Range Body |
<KiwiRoo> | I'm loooking at 90.50 on the ES. |
<NihabaAshi> | Covered Remainder ER2 Short @ 781.50 --> + 3.5 |
| caught a Big WRB pt1 exit |
<KiwiRoo> | it is wide now..... report was bad lol... | 10:04 |
<pat255> | vn |
<szubaark> | Covered all Short ES at 1492.25 --> + 4.25 «« paper »» |
<KiwiRoo> | Nice trade mate... szu. |
<szubaark> | thx |
<KiwiRoo> | go go 90.50.. |
| shitz what next... hnmm 88.00 |
| i got 86 under(88.00)... then 82.25 as next support. | 10:06 |
<szubaark> | Hi star |
<startrader> | Wow, just caught the drop. | 10:07 |
<NihabaAshi> | Weak support here for ER2 | 10:08 |
| Long ER2 @ 781.60 -> small size | 10:11 |
| intuition and high risk trade |
<startrader> | 12.21 es open at 87.25 is the number I am watching. 60 min close below there and I think we fill the gap to from 12.20. at 74.50. |
<NihabaAshi> | 1 contract only for this price action after that big price drop | 10:12 |
<startrader> | Shorts ES @ 1490.50 «« paper »» | 10:14 |
<NihabaAshi> | Volatility Breakout downwards | 10:15 |
| voaltility contracting again | 10:19 |
| volatility breakout within the prior volatility breakout range = chop |
| Exited ER2 Long @ 782.40 --> + 0.8 | 10:22 |
<drs> | Caught two quick scalps on the housing announcement: 784.2/782.3 +1.9 and 781.5/780.4 +1.1 |
<Nesi> | thanks for explaing, Niha :) |
<szubaark> | geez IB down..its been going down all week | 10:26 |
<KiwiRoo> | register with Ninja. | 10:31 |
| Ninja trader.. |
| hardly down. |
| mirus futures / amp . | 10:32 |
<szubaark> | cant trade with IB going in and out | 10:36 |
<drt> | yes, ib asian server is down too | 10:40 |
<szubaark> | this week has been terrible, IB went down everyday OR Quotes would Stop then continue | 10:41 |
| would hate to be in a trade when this crap happens :(( | 10:42 |
<werner> | market is sideways after that down move :( | 10:46 |
<KiwiRoo> | no shitz.... box right now between 90-91...waiting for break out. | 10:49 |
<drs> | Got a 50% retrace in er2 |
<X> | #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders and intermarket analysis of Emini Futures (EMD, ER2, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (EC), Eurex Derivatives (DAX, ESTX50), Euronext Futures (FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM) and Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) | 10:53 |
<cmr> | IB still down on my side. Anyone with same problem? | 10:56 |
<drt> | ib still down | 10:57 |
<cmr> | Hope they are performing a major correction on the system ... | 10:58 |
<NihabaAshi> | Has anyone notice that whenever one of the major retail futures brokers go down that volatility on the CME and CBOT dries up ??? | 10:59 |
| Volume too |
<drt> | ib up | 11:00 |
<NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 782.50 -> small size |
| intuition trade again | 11:01 |
| Exited ER2 Long @ 781.80 --> - 0.7 | 11:02 |
| Reverse and Enter Short ER2 @ 781.80 |
| reversed into 2 contracts |
<drs> | short er2 @781.5 (my own method!) | 11:04 |
<NihabaAshi> | Covered 1/2 ER2 Short @ 781.00 --> + 0.8 |
<szubaark> | IB up for 1 minute now down again | 11:05 |
<NihabaAshi> | szu...I have a rule of 3 strikes and your out for brokers. |
| Thus, if that happenened 3x in one trading day...I call it quits for the day. | 11:06 |
<szubaark> | Yes.. Im definetly not trading today. | 11:07 |
<NihabaAshi> | Covered ER2 Short @ 780.50 --> + 1.3 | 11:08 |
<drs> | Cover er2 @ 780.5 (hit yesterday's close) +1.0 | 11:09 |
<NihabaAshi> | I dumped my short after seeing a possible "back to back" hammer lines on the 1 min chart |
<drs> | Do you trade off 1 min, or use as entry/exit tool? |
<NihabaAshi> | I use 1min, 2min, 3min, 5min and 15min charts |
| Not sure what you mean by a entry/exit "tool". | 11:10 |
<pat255> | N that is the best setup ..i got rid of tick charts .. |
<NihabaAshi> | Tick charts are useful for someone doing "pure scalping" | 11:11 |
<drs> | Meant that you use 1 min chart not for trade selection, but for entry/exit... |
<pat255> | but min charts work k ..plus one can the c the hammers etc .. |
<NihabaAshi> | Yes, for trade selection and entry/exit...I use 1min, 2min, 3min, 5min and 15min charts | 11:12 |
| Simply, if I see something interesting developing on a particular chart interval...I do everything via the particular chart interval until something else develops. | 11:13 |
<drs> | ok, thanks. I don't have confidence to trade < 3 minute at this point :-) |
<pat255> | thks N.. | 11:14 |
<werner> | wow ts offline here | 11:15 |
<NihabaAshi> | I've reached my profit target for the trading day. |
<startrader> | Still short average of 90.50, wife shut me down. |
<zoomy> | TS still up for me |
<drs> | my ts is up in L.A. |
<NihabaAshi> | On that note...going to head out and go up to meet the family at the condo to do some skiing at the resort. |
<Nesi> | have a great weekend, Niha | 11:16 |
<pat255> | later N ..enjoy |
<drs> | Have fun! |
<werner> | tx zoomy |
<NihabaAshi> | Ok...I'm officially back on vacation again :) |
<pat255> | lol .. |
<NihabaAshi> | Take care all and see all on Monday. |
| Have a good and safe weekend. | 11:17 |
| |
WRB Analysis
|
|
| |
<werner> | dito niha |
| TS ok now here |
<zoomy> | thx niha |
<NihabaAshi> | By the way, can somebody email today's chat log to questions@thestrategylab.com | 11:18 |
| I'm going to disconnect my laptop and bring it to the condo. |
| Thus, I want access to the remaining logs in here for today while I'm gone. |
<Brutus> | ok niha | 11:19 |
<NihabaAshi> | Thanks and greatly appreaciated if someone emails the log after the close. |
| Thanks Brutus and all. |
<pat255> | N i am leaving now for the ofice .. |
| but how can i do that ? |
<Nesi> | i can email it.. Niha |
<pat255> | k thks Nesi |
* NihabaAshi | is now known as Nihaba_vacation | 11:20 |
<pat255> | how do u do that ..just look at the log & email it? |
<Nesi> | save the log and then email it :) |
<Nihaba_vacation> | Yes |
| It's stored in your mIRC folder on your harddrive |
<pat255> | k...i c ... |
| y niha c what u mean .. | 11:21 |
<Nihaba_vacation> | In a subfolder called Logs |
<startrader> | Shorts ES @ 1491.75 -> Add «« paper »» |
<Nesi> | darn, Niha, i was not logging the room today :/ |
| i started loggin now tho |
<pat255> | good thinking lol | 11:22 |
<Nesi> | will copy and paste todays log tho | 11:23 |
<pat255> | otherwise u wil email him empty file .. |
| later guys ty all | 11:25 |
<startrader> | Here we go. Hope the lunch bunch is showing up. | 11:51 |
<drs> | Have a nice weekend, all (I quit at lunch :-) | 11:55 |
<startrader> | 15 min close below 90.50 should push it back to yesterday's close. | 11:58 |
| No sooner do I type it. Wow. | 12:00 |
<Nesi> | Shorts ER2 @ 780.40 delayed entry «« paper »» |
<startrader> | Covered 1/2 ES Short @ 1487.75 --> + 4 «« paper »» | 12:01 |
| Could not even close the 15 min below 87.25 | 12:15 |
| Covered Remainder ES Short @ 1487.50 --> + 3 «« paper »» | 12:17 |
* codehead_afk | is now known as codehead | 12:24 |
<Nesi> | Shorts ER2 @ 776.00 -> Add «« paper »» | 12:44 |
* Forex2stay | has quit IRC | 12:53 |
* Nihaba_vacation | has quit IRC (Volatility Analysis is a door way to consistent profits in the futures markets) | 12:57 |
* Andy | has joined #FuturesTrades | 12:58 |
<X> | #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders and intermarket analysis of Emini Futures (EMD, ER2, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (EC), Eurex Derivatives (DAX, ESTX50), Euronext Futures (FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM) and Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) | 12:59 |
<codehead> | long YM 103378 <paper> | 13:04 |
| horizontal trendline break on cci 3 min |
<Nesi> | Covered all ER2 Short @ 775.00 --> + 780.40 delayed entry - 775.00 + 1 «« paper »» |
<codehead> | exit half YM +15 <paper> | 13:06 |
| raise stop on remainder b/e |
| raise stop to +10 <paper> | 13:08 |
| exit +14 <paper> | 13:10 |
| target was +30 |
| might still | 13:11 |
* futurible | has quit IRC (Ping timeout for futurible[85.155.196.126.dyn.user.ono.co m]) | 13:23 |
<codehead> | possible famirs forming for up... |
* futurible | has joined #FuturesTrades | 13:26 |
* cmr | has quit IRC | 13:27 |
* ScreenStruck1 | has joined #FuturesTrades | 13:30 |
| has left #FuturesTrades | 13:31 |
* cmr | has joined #FuturesTrades | 13:39 |
<szubaark> | nice code.. | 13:41 |
* futurible | has quit IRC (Ping timeout for futurible[85.155.196.126.dyn.user.ono.co m]) |
| has joined #FuturesTrades | 13:43 |
<codehead> | indices gettign a little relief on potential double bottom | 13:44 |
<startrader> | Shorts ES @ 1484.25 «« paper »» |
<codehead> | thx szu | 13:45 |
<szubaark> | Buys ES @ 1484.50 «« paper »» |
| trying a Counter Trade here |
<startrader> | Shorts ES @ 1485.25 -> Add «« paper »» | 13:47 |
| Would normally be looking long as well, 85.25 looks like a tough nut to crack with little volume off the bottom. | 13:51 |
<szubaark> | Looking for a retrace here off the double bottom | 13:52 |
<startrader> | Shorts ES @ 1486.25 -> Add «« paper »» | 14:00 |
<szubaark> | exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 1484.50 «« paper »» | 14:01 |
* futurible | has quit IRC (Ping timeout for futurible[85.155.196.126.dyn.user.ono.co m]) | 14:03 |
* pdays | has joined #FuturesTrades | 14:09 |
<szubaark> | Exited all Long ES at 1484.75 --> + 0.25 «« paper »» | 14:15 |
| Shorts ES @ 1484.75 «« paper »» |
| missed my exit by 1 tick (wanted 1487) | 14:16 |
<codehead> | crude took a decent dip in last 15 mins of mkt | 14:30 |
| dropped over a buck quick | 14:31 |
<KiwiRoo> | this is super tough area for ES, YM & NQ.... above this point and explosive up to the HOD.. imo. | 14:37 |
| waiting for YM to do it.. | 14:38 |
<szubaark> | overall trend still down |
<KiwiRoo> | yeah... i know.. but watch the explosive up. |
<szubaark> | Covered all Short ES at 1488 --> - 3.25 «« paper »» |
| Buys ES @ 1488.25 «« paper »» |
<KiwiRoo> | at least 90.5.. come on... ES. | 14:39 |
| tell sellers to f off. | 14:41 |
<startrader> | Covered all ES Short @ 1487.50 --> - 4.5 «« paper »» | 14:42 |
<KiwiRoo> | could even get to HOD imo. |
<szubaark> | Looking more and more Bullish |
<KiwiRoo> | get over that 90.50 and surely HOD.... | 14:43 |
| :P |
<szubaark> | 1492 First Brick Wall |
<KiwiRoo> | sellersssss...... |
<startrader> | Shorts ES @ 1488.50 «« paper »» | 14:44 |
<KiwiRoo> | below 87 and it a sucker push...... ....:( | 14:45 |
<startrader> | Hopefully that 87.25 can push it lower. | 14:46 |
<KiwiRoo> | u need below 87... |
<startrader> | Agreed. | 14:49 |
<KiwiRoo> | they will run out of steam after this attempt if can't do it. | 14:50 |
| NIce shorting there... | 14:51 |
| can't do it on the up lets push this shitz lower then...... |
<startrader> | Covered 1/2 ES Short @ 1486 --> + 2.5 «« paper »» | 14:52 |
<KiwiRoo> | all sellers so far at this altitude |
<szubaark> | Exited all Long ES at 1485.75 --> - 2.5 «« paper »» | 14:53 |
| Shorts ES @ 1485.75 «« paper »» |
| should have stayed Short, trend is down |
<KiwiRoo> | we're at the line in the sand level.... hard to say. | 14:55 |
<startrader> | need this 15 min close under 86.25 to get going. | 14:58 |
<KiwiRoo> | I think they're still loooking at the long side... seeing how they hover around 87.... | 15:00 |
| Dom offer size at 87 is huge. |
<startrader> | 89.50 is 50% of days range, will not look long till that is taken out hard. | 15:01 |
<KiwiRoo> | sure thing | 15:02 |
<X> | #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders and intermarket analysis of Emini Futures (EMD, ER2, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (EC), Eurex Derivatives (DAX, ESTX50), Euronext Futures (FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM) and Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) |
<startrader> | Covered Remainder ES Short @ 1485.25 --> + 3.25 «« paper »» | 15:07 |
| Happy new year all, taking off again till 08! Gotta go. Wish I could see where this goes. | 15:08 |
<KiwiRoo> | nice trade... c ya.. happy new year to u as well. |
<Brutus> | happy new year ST and to everyone at strat lab | 15:09 |
<KiwiRoo> | hapy new year Brutus. | 15:10 |
* startrader | has quit IRC |
<Brutus> | what time do you sleep kr? | 15:11 |
<KiwiRoo> | Around the lunch hour.. just got up again then. |
<Brutus> | lol |
<KiwiRoo> | be4 market and @ lunch. |
| haha... you ? |
| u in goldcoast right? |
<Brutus> | after market |
| no adelaide | 15:12 |
<KiwiRoo> | good deal.... |
<Brutus> | u? |
<KiwiRoo> | i'm flying off to nz later today. :P |
| sydney |
<Brutus> | born in nz? | 15:13 |
<KiwiRoo> | nah.. i'm thai born. but live in nz for pretty much all my life :P | 15:14 |
<Brutus> | ok, I was in wellington in 05 | 15:15 |
<KiwiRoo> | awesome... | 15:17 |
<szubaark> | Covered all Short ES at 1488.50 --> - 2.75 «« paper »» |
| Buys ES @ 1488.50 «« paper »» | 15:18 |
<KiwiRoo> | ST just missed out the fun now.... |
<szubaark> | tough area here.. Keep getting whacked with both Longs and Shorts |
| should blast off higher now |
<KiwiRoo> | IMO. they looking for long but Short won't give up. |
<Brutus> | this guy zodiac said it best... | 15:20 |
<KiwiRoo> | man.. this is BS... |
<Brutus> | 12-28-07 01:16 PM |
| Looks like the Russell has found a little support and is providing some lift for the ES. look for some jumps in volume off the 1min to support entry at these levels. Its a holiday weekend as well. |
| At this point their is very little paper coming in the ES and the locals will be running for the stops |
<KiwiRoo> | all local was trading.... | 15:21 |
| thats why the damn indicision around 87 :(.. | 15:22 |
<szubaark> | they do any more sucker fakeouts and most retail will call it a day also |
<KiwiRoo> | dirty locals.. | 15:24 |
<szubaark> | worst slime there is | 15:25 |
| expect more of the same games first week of January, then we should be back to normal Volume | 15:28 |
<Brutus> | 1st day back is normal szu | 15:29 |
| for last 2 years anyway | 15:30 |
* futurible | has joined #FuturesTrades | 15:34 |
<szubaark> | Brutus, u seen eminitrader? | 15:48 |
<Brutus> | no must be on holidays also othernet server had some problems | 15:49 |
* futurible | has quit IRC (Ping timeout for futurible[85.155.196.126.dyn.user.ono.co m]) | 15:50 |
<Brutus> | ============ U.S. MARKETS ACTION =========== | 16:00 |
| DJIA up 17.55 points to 13376.84 |
| NASDAQ down 1.32 points to 2675.58 |
| S&P 500 up 3.22 points to 1479.69 |
| 10-year T-note up 96/32 at 101 9/32 yield 4.088 |
| NYMEX Spot Crude down $0.55 at $96.07/bbl at close |
| Dollar/Euro up 0.0102 at 1.4712 |
|
http://custom.marketwatch.com/custom/tda meritrade-com/html-story.asp?guid={0f5a2 77a-0a8a-4f0c-92d6-1c3172c375d6} | 16:01 |
<zoomy> | gw all | 16:06 |
* zoomy | has quit IRC |
* sep34_away | has quit IRC | 16:09 |
<szubaark> | Exited all Long ES at 1486 --> - 2.5 «« paper »» | 16:12 |
<Brutus> | cul8r | 16:13 |
<X> | #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders and intermarket analysis of Emini Futures (EMD, ER2, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (EC), Eurex Derivatives (DAX, ESTX50), Euronext Futures (FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM) and Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) |
| |
Sponsor:
Skype
|
|
| |
Google:
|
#FuturesTrades past logs can be searched
via using Google. For example, pretend you want to research what has been
said about volatility analysis. Go to the Google search window below and type
in "volatility analysis" site:thestrategylab.com (exactly as I typed
it including the quotation marks) and you will find everything associated
with those key words that were used by any member of #FuturesTrades.
|
| |