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| Session Start: Wed Dec 12 09:28:38 2007Session Ident: #futurestrades |
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<pat255> | gm all.. | 09:29 |
<rickf> | gm |
<NihabaAshi> | Eye popping GAP to the upside via the overnight price action :) | 09:30 |
<rickf> | not to mention the eye popping news @ 9AM :) | 09:31 |
<NihabaAshi> | Yep |
<ItalianSharp> | yep, that's what caused most of the gap |
<NihabaAshi> | Shorts ER2 @ 788.70 -> large size | 09:32 |
<eminitrader> | Shorts ES @ 1511.25 | 09:33 |
<NihabaAshi> | Covered ER2 Short @ 789.20 --> - 0.5 | 09:34 |
| Long ER2 @ 789.40 -> large size |
<daxbr> | gm everyone | 09:35 |
<Pepe> | gm all |
<eminitrader> | Shorts ES @ 1514.25 -> Add | 09:36 |
<ripsboy> | gm all... |
<NihabaAshi> | Exited ER2 Long @ 789.70 --> + 0.3 | 09:37 |
<KnnK> | Shorts ER2 @ 788.9 | 09:38 |
<NihabaAshi> | Shorts ER2 @ 788.30 -> large size |
<KnnK> | Covered 1/2 ER2 Short @ 777.3 --> + 11.6 | 09:39 |
| sorry that will be 787.3 |
<eminitrader> | Covered 1/2 ES Short @ 1508.25 --> + 6 | 09:40 |
<pat255> | vvn em .. |
<eminitrader> | thx pat |
<KnnK> | Covered 1/4 ER2 Short @ 786.2 --> + 2.7 | 09:41 |
<pat255> | nice entry N.. | 09:43 |
<NihabaAshi> | Covered ER2 Short @ 784.50 --> + 3.8 |
| Holding 1 contract remainder |
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* rickf | placed order - long es @ 1505.50 | 09:44 |
<KnnK> | Covered Remainder ER2 Short @ 784.2 --> + 4.7 |
<futurible> | vn KnnK |
<KnnK> | thanks futurible | 09:45 |
<NihabaAshi> | pat...first trade was a trade error and I was lucky to be able to minimize the loss on that trade. | 09:47 |
<eminitrader> | Covered 1/4 ES Short @ 1513.25 --> - 2 |
<startrader> | Long ES @ 1503.75 «« paper »» |
<eminitrader> | 00ps |
| Covered 1/4 ES Short @ 1503.25 --> + 8 |
| hld 5 |
<Pepe> | nice Niha and emini |
<eminitrader> | thx p | 09:48 |
<NihabaAshi> | Someone once asked in here what causes TRENDS??? |
| Same answer for many decades... |
| The FED |
<startrader> | Exited 1/2 ES Long @ 1505.25 --> + 25.5 «« paper »» | 09:49 |
<KnnK> | Long ER2 @ 782.6 | 09:51 |
<startrader> | Exited Remainder ES Long @ 1505.75 --> + 2 «« paper »» |
<NihabaAshi> | A lot of traders were looking for one of those "surprise" (not scheduled) rate cuts but many forgot the FED can do the same thing to the price action by announcing it would "Inject Cash into the Money Markets". |
<KnnK> | Exited 1/2 ER2 Long @ 783.8 --> + 1.2 | 09:52 |
| Exited 1/4 ER2 Long @ 783.8 --> + 1.2 | 09:53 |
<NihabaAshi> | Covered Remainder ER2 Short @ 783.80 --> + 4.5 |
<pat255> | vn guys .. |
<NihabaAshi> | My exit should have been around 782 but I forgot to manage the trade via the 1min chart to better see the contracting volatility :( | 09:54 |
<KnnK> | sell limit to exit ER2 long @ 782.6 | 09:55 |
<pat255> | was thinking S @784 but noo went right up.. | 09:56 |
<startrader> | Shorts ES @ 1506.25 «« paper »» | 09:57 |
<KnnK> | Exited Remainder ER2 Long @ 7836 --> + 7053.4 |
<Pepe> | :) |
<KnnK> | Exited Remainder ER2 Long @ 783.6 --> + 1 |
| :) |
| its kind of difficult to type and exit the trade at the same time | 09:58 |
<NihabaAshi> | Exit trade first...then type :) | 09:59 |
| I usually have a 5 second delay between my trades and the posting of those trades. |
| However, I currently have a pinch nerve in my neck for the past few days...my posting delay is around 10 secs :) | 10:00 |
<KnnK> | Shorts ER2 @ 783.0 | 10:01 |
| thanks, i will do that |
<NihabaAshi> | Anybody watching the Eurex BUND ??? |
<Pepe> | no, why? |
<ItalianSharp> | yes |
| it's falling like crazy |
<startrader> | Covered all ES Short @ 1504 --> + 2.25 «« paper »» | 10:02 |
<ItalianSharp> | same with US 10yr |
<KnnK> | Covered 1/2 ER2 Short @ 782.3 --> + 0.7 |
<NihabaAshi> | Not too long ago I saw many complaints at different forums about how "flat" it was... |
| Things have changed quickly :) |
| Trade it when its hot and stay on the sidelines when its cold. | 10:03 |
<KnnK> | Covered 1/4 ER2 Short @ 781.7 --> + 1.3 | 10:04 |
<szubaark> | Buys ES @ 1502.50 «« paper »» |
<KnnK> | buy limit to cover ER2 short @ 783.0 | 10:05 |
<szubaark> | exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 1502.50 «« paper »» | 10:07 |
| Exited all Long ES at 1502.50 --> 0 «« paper »» | 10:08 |
<Andy> | Long ER2 @ 781.7 «« paper »» |
| Exited all ER2 Long @ 781.2 --> - 0.5 «« paper »» | 10:09 |
<KnnK> | Covered Remainder ER2 Short @ 80.6 --> + 702.4 |
<szubaark> | Shorts ES @ 1501.50 «« paper »» |
<KnnK> | Covered Remainder ER2 Short @ 780.6 --> + 2.4 | 10:10 |
<szubaark> | exit stop set ES @ 1502.50 «« paper »» |
| nice KnnK |
<NihabaAshi> | Shorts ER2 @ 780.80 -> small size | 10:11 |
<startrader> | no way to post trades in real time today, on only one monitor today. |
<Trader222> | lets see if SPX 1500 gets defended |
<KnnK> | thanks szubaark |
<szubaark> | exit stop set ES @ 1503.50 «« paper »» |
<NihabaAshi> | Lower highs and a volatility breakout... | 10:12 |
<rickf> | covered short es @1503 -5 |
<NihabaAshi> | I should be able to get a profit on this trade while being able to minimize my loss (keep it small) if I'm wrong. |
<Trader222> | bulls MUST defend spx1500 here or this could get lots of sells very fast |
<szubaark> | Covered all Short ES at 1503.50 --> - 2 «« paper »» | 10:13 |
<KnnK> | Long ER2 @ 782.1 -> small size |
<NihabaAshi> | Covered ER2 Short @ 781.60 --> - 0.8 |
<silo2> | man KnnK you're doing well today |
<NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 781.50 -> medium size |
<szubaark> | Shorts ES @ 1504 «« paper »» | 10:18 |
<KnnK> | Exited all ER2 Long @ 7832.9 --> + 7050.8 | 10:19 |
<szubaark> | Covered all Short ES at 1506 --> - 2 «« paper »» | 10:20 |
<NihabaAshi> | Exited ER2 Long @ 783.20 --> + 1.7 |
<KnnK> | Exited all ER2 Long @ 782.9 --> + 0.8 |
<NihabaAshi> | Holding 1 contract remainder |
<szubaark> | Shorts ES @ 1505 «« paper »» | 10:22 |
<NihabaAshi> | volatility still declining | 10:25 |
| A little more decline and it'll setup a nice "Volatility Spike". |
| Hopefully that takes price upwards and not downwards. | 10:26 |
<startrader> | short er783.30 |
<pdays> | Shorts ER2 @ 783. | 10:33 |
<NihabaAshi> | Exited Remainder ER2 Long @ 782.50 --> + 1 |
| fofm | 10:34 |
<pdays> | Covered all ER2 Short @ 782.5 --> + 0.5 |
<startrader> | exit er short 782.30 |
<szubaark> | exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 1505 «« paper »» | 10:35 |
| hopefully we can make a lower low here on a WRB | 10:39 |
<base> | I am holding short since 15:39:03 787.60, stop loss actually at 783.60. | 10:42 |
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<base> | I wanted to exit at 777.70, no luck yet. | 10:43 |
<rickf> | i'm flat for now - need to go to the gym and vent off frustration from this morning. back later. |
<eminitrader> | later r | 10:44 |
<KnnK> | buy limit to enter long ER2 @ 782.8 |
<eminitrader> | long day yet |
<KnnK> | Long ER2 @ 782.8 |
<eminitrader> | exit stop lowered ES @ 1508.25 |
<base> | Well, out at 783.50. | 10:46 |
<eminitrader> | looking more and more like a inside day |
<startrader> | long er 783.10 |
<KnnK> | Exited all ER2 Long @ 781.8 --> - 1 | 10:47 |
<startrader> | exit er2 long 782.1 |
<szubaark> | Covered all Short ES at 1497.25 --> + 7.75 «« paper »» | 10:49 |
<Andy> | wow |
<eminitrader> | Covered ES Short @ 1497.25 --> + 14 |
| hld 2 |
<base> | :( |
<pat255> | wtg em ... |
<szubaark> | emini :)) |
<eminitrader> | thx guys |
<startrader> | not everyday can be a 50 handle day. vn em. |
<base> | Congrats, you all were more patient than me. :) |
<Brutus> | excellent emt | 10:50 |
<werner> | nice indd |
<eminitrader> | thx again guys |
| exit stop lowered ES @ 1506.75 |
<startrader> | That last 15 min close was a raging sell, I just walked back in the room and did not look at time or 15 min charts. |
<Trader222> | missed that 3min dump | 10:51 |
| bear trap? |
| nopers |
| umm | 10:52 |
| maybe nuts but trying long |
* Trader222 | Long ES 1496s |
<Trader222> | 1495 = 1/2 1475 overnight low/1515 9am high | 10:53 |
* Trader222 | sell some ES 98 +1.5ish | 10:55 |
<eminitrader> | either gap fill or chop..low probability of new highs |
<pat255> | y |
<eminitrader> | nextsupport SP 1484... | 10:56 |
| mrkt or rather es tank from SP res of 1506 | 10:57 |
<Trader222> | first cmoes comes 13,500 suport, then spx 1484; now with wall at spx 1490 |
<eminitrader> | NQ was very bullish but the es pulled it down |
| 1490 ...see nothing there T | 10:58 |
| my chart says 1484 and then 1462 |
| if that breks 1438 | 10:59 |
<Trader222> | SPX 1490 is a very big deal known pivot |
<eminitrader> | why.. |
| its just the tv guys hyping ...no technical reason |
<Trader222> | was a big fib number; then over the months; it got keyed in as buy/sell programs, if u pull up a big daily you'll see it |
<startrader> | Long ES @ 1496 «« paper »» | 11:00 |
<eminitrader> | fib numbers are one time..if its voilated then thats it ...it vanishes |
| well anyways ..to each his own :)) |
* Trader222 | sells more ES 98. +1.5 | 11:01 |
| out more 97.50 +1 ; 98.50 +2 | 11:02 |
| holds 1 L from 96.5; stop 94; food | 11:03 |
<NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 780.10 -> small size |
| 1 contract only for the remainder of the trading day |
| I'm in profit protection mode because I've already reached my profit goals for the trading day. | 11:04 |
| Exited ER2 Long @ 780.60 --> + 0.5 | 11:05 |
| trade error...saw something that really wasn't there |
<pat255> | n your trades are taken from 2 min chart? |
<startrader> | Exited all ES Long @ 1499.25 --> + 3.25 «« paper »» | 11:06 |
<NihabaAshi> | This particular trade was via the 1min chart. |
<pat255> | kty |
<NihabaAshi> | Others today via the 1min, 2min or 3min chart |
<pat255> | k.. |
<startrader> | Exited 1/2 ES Long @ 1500.50 --> + 4.5 «« paper »» | 11:08 |
<twmoody> | YM trade @ 9:02 Daily pivot out 5 10 20 | 11:09 |
<startrader> | long er2 781 | 11:14 |
* Trader222 | out last ES Long 1500 +3.5 trailstop hit | 11:21 |
<Trader222> | on Daily, 1500 = 1/2 1475/1525 | 11:26 |
<bulldog> | Long ER2 @ 779.90 «« paper »» | 11:32 |
| Exited all ER2 Long @ 781.40 --> + 1.5 «« paper »» | 11:40 |
<startrader> | breakout of double 15 min ivbb's, bars and bodies. |
<szubaark> | Shorts ES @ 1500 «« paper »» | 11:47 |
| exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 1500 «« paper »» | 11:51 |
<startrader> | Long ES @ 1498 «« paper »» | 11:52 |
<szubaark> | could just chop here around 1500 | 11:54 |
<startrader> | I think the lunch bunch will show up and move it a few handles hopefully to the upside. | 12:00 |
<pat255> | later guys ty | 12:04 |
<szubaark> | Covered all Short ES at 1495.25 --> + 4.75 «« paper »» | 12:09 |
* Trader222 | Long ES 1495 |
<NihabaAshi> | back to back Dark Hammer lines | 12:10 |
<Trader222> | had parked order from before, 1495 is a 50% fib |
| hate knife catching though |
<szubaark> | nice WRB Today. |
<NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 777.30 -> small size |
<Trader222> | offering some at 96 | 12:11 |
<NihabaAshi> | Usually good for a few ticks as price tries to find support |
<Andy> | Long ER2 @ 777.4 «« paper »» |
<eminitrader> | exit stop lowered ES @ 1503.25 |
* Trader222 | out some 96+1 |
<Trader222> | eminitrader u still short from this am? |
<eminitrader> | yes T hld 2 | 12:12 |
<NihabaAshi> | Exited ER2 Long @ 777.80 --> + 0.5 |
* Trader222 | out more ES 96+1 this still looks like crap |
<Trader222> | eminitrader verygood |
<eminitrader> | thx T |
<Trader222> | i wasn't here;' this last down move from 1502 over last 30min | 12:13 |
| was there volume to the move or not really |
<Andy> | Exited 1/2 ER2 Long @ 779.5 --> + 2.1 «« paper »» |
| wrong | 12:14 |
| Exited 1/2 ER2 Long @ 777.9 --> + 0.5 «« paper »» |
| Exited Remainder ER2 Long @ 777.4 --> 0 «« paper »» | 12:15 |
<eminitrader> | well downward pressure...guess thats why its tanking.. |
| i dont follow volume T |
* Trader222 | out ES LOng 95.5 +0.5; | 12:17 |
<Trader222> | flat |
<Andy> | Long ER2 @ 777.4 «« paper »» |
<NihabaAshi> | Shorts ER2 @ 778.80 -> small size | 12:19 |
| correction | 12:20 |
| Shorts ER2 @ 777.80 -> small size |
| support for my Short showed up from other key markets... | 12:21 |
| ER2 not responding :( |
* Trader222 | Long again tniy 1495.75 |
<Andy> | Exited 1/2 ER2 Long @ 778.2 --> + 0.8 «« paper »» | 12:22 |
<szubaark> | Buys ES @ 1496.50 «« paper »» |
* Trader222 | sells some ES 96.75+1 | 12:23 |
<Trader222> | come on, lets have some bullish followthru | 12:24 |
* Trader222 | out more 96.5 +0.75 |
<Trader222> | looks weak again |
<NihabaAshi> | ERE2 fighting hard not to drop again | 12:25 |
* Trader222 | out more 96.75+1 losing patience | 12:27 |
<Andy> | Exited 1/4 ER2 Long @ 778.1 --> + 0.7 «« paper »» | 12:28 |
| Exited Remainder ER2 Long @ 777.6 --> + 0.2 «« paper »» | 12:30 |
<NihabaAshi> | something just "spooked" the market |
| News ??? |
<szubaark> | Exited all Long ES at 1492 --> - 4.5 «« paper »» |
| Shorts ES @ 1492 «« paper »» | 12:31 |
<NihabaAshi> | Will know if its news related in about 5 mins especially if it keeps dropping. |
* Trader222 | stophit 1495.75 +0 |
| Long 1492.50 |
<bulldog> | Long ER2 @ 775.60 «« paper »» |
<eminitrader> | Covered ES Short @ 1492.25 --> + 19 |
<NihabaAshi> | If it retraces...most likely technical related drop |
<eminitrader> | hld 1 |
<Brutus> | :)) ex emt | 12:32 |
<eminitrader> | thx B |
<rickf> | nice emt |
<eminitrader> | thx r |
<NihabaAshi> | Covered ER2 Short @ 776.10 --> + 1.7 |
| If I don't know what's going on to cause that drop... |
| Best to exit the trade and take the profit. |
<Guest35179> | Long ER2 @ 776.1 | 12:35 |
<eminitrader> | guys that exit was 1512.75 not 1512.25...sorry abt that | 12:36 |
<Brutus> | I take it back :{ |
<eminitrader> | had changed the limit from 1492.25 to 1492.75 ...cause my avg entry was 1512.75 | 12:37 |
<Guest35179> | Exited all ER2 Long @ 775.5 --> - 0.6 | 12:38 |
<rickf> | indices still falling |
<Guest35179> | Shorts ER2 @ 775.2 |
<eminitrader> | when i head order filled i assumed it was @ 1512.25..on checking my log i realiazed fill @ 1512.75 |
<Guest35179> | Covered all ER2 Short @ 774.1 --> + 1.1 | 12:40 |
<bulldog> | Long ER2 @ 774.00 -> Add «« paper »» | 12:41 |
* codehead_afk | is now known as codehead | 12:44 |
<Andy> | Long ER2 @ 773.2 «« paper »» |
<bulldog> | Long ER2 @ 773.10 -> Add «« paper »» | 12:45 |
* Trader222 | adds ES Long 1489.50 moresize ave 1490.5 |
<Guest35179> | Shorts ER2 @ 772.9 | 12:46 |
* Trader222 | out Longs -1 -1 -3 | 12:47 |
<Andy> | Exited all ER2 Long @ 772.5 --> - 0.7 «« paper »» |
<Guest35179> | Covered all ER2 Short @ 771.5 --> + 1.4 |
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<Guest35179> | Long ER2 @ 771.2 | 12:49 |
| Exited all ER2 Long @ 771.5 --> + 0.3 | 12:50 |
* Trader222 | long size 87.5 | 12:52 |
<Trader222> | never filled at 85.0 |
| spx 1484 200dma just hit 5min ago | 12:53 |
| IF we go up, wall of course at spx 1490 | 12:54 |
| (sorry) while typing that, an offer hit |
* Trader222 | out some ES Long 1488.50 +1 |
<eminitrader> | yep...expect a bounce off these levels..personally i'm hoping for it to brek | 12:55 |
* Trader222 | out more 89+1.5 |
| out more 88.5+1 | 12:56 |
<Guest35179> | some struggle this area with buying support trying to fight the sellers |
<eminitrader> | wow ..dow down to 50 from the 300 levels...crazy mrkt | 12:57 |
* Trader222 | out more 89.50 +2 (had offers up to 90 stacked/live) |
| all uot 88.5 +1 /flat | 12:58 |
<Trader222> | that was fun 10min lol |
<Guest35179> | wonder if 770.5 will be swing point of day-we'll see | 12:59 |
<eminitrader> | Covered Remainder ES Short @ 1487.25 --> + 24 | 13:05 |
| best trade ...in terms of pionts in all my trading ...without hlding overnight | 13:06 |
<Brutus> | congrats EMT |
<rickf> | excellent! |
<eminitrader> | thx B |
<Trader222> | welldone | 13:07 |
<szubaark> | Congratulations, think thats the record in #FuturesTrades. |
<Andy> | wtg, et |
<eminitrader> | thx T szu A |
<Brutus> | no szu 32 |
<bulldog> | Long ER2 @ 771.70 -> Add «« paper »» | 13:08 |
* Trader222 | Long 13,500 ym |
<Andy> | may get a little bump at 72 if the stops are hit | 13:09 |
| 72.9 | 13:10 |
* Trader222 | out 1/2 YM 13,515 +15 BE rest |
| out 1/4 YM 520+20 | 13:11 |
<Trader222> | walking away with trailstop in place | 13:12 |
<szubaark> | Covered all Short ES at 1492.25 --> - 0.25 «« paper »» |
| Buys ES @ 1492.25 «« paper »» | 13:13 |
<bulldog> | Exited 1/3 ER2 Long @ 774.90 --> + 3.2 «« paper »» |
<Guest35179> | Long ER2 @ 775.1 | 13:18 |
<Trader222> | walked back in | 13:23 |
| yea, only have 1/4 long left, keep it at BE with trailstop if we pop over spx 1490 | 13:24 |
<Guest35179> | Exited ER2 Long @ 774.6 --> - 0.5 | 13:29 |
| Reverse and Enter Short ER2 @ 774.6 |
| Covered all ER2 Short @ 773.7 --> + 0.9 | 13:30 |
| Shorts ER2 @ 773.9 | 13:33 |
| Covered all ER2 Short @ 774.8 --> - 0.9 | 13:37 |
<bulldog> | Exited Remainder ER2 Long @ 776.30 --> + 0.7 «« paper »» |
<eminitrader> | Shorts ES @ 1495 | 13:42 |
* Trader222 | out last of YM longs +50 |
<bulldog> | ES 1494.75 is weekly pivot | 13:44 |
<eminitrader> | Covered 1/2 ES Short @ 1493 --> + 2 | 13:45 |
<szubaark> | exit stop set ES @ 1492.25 «« paper »» | 13:51 |
<NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 775.60 -> small size | 13:54 |
<szubaark> | Exited all Long ES at 1492.25 --> 0 «« paper »» | 13:56 |
<startrader> | Shorts ES @ 1423.25 «« paper »» | 14:01 |
| 1493.25 |
<szubaark> | Shorts ES @ 1493 «« paper »» |
<eminitrader> | Covered Remainder ES Short @ 1495 --> 0 | 14:05 |
<startrader> | Covered all ES Short @ 1494.50 --> - 71.25 «« paper »» | 14:06 |
<szubaark> | Covered all Short ES at 1495.75 --> - 2.75 «« paper »» |
<startrader> | Shorts ES @ 1496.00 «« paper »» | 14:10 |
<eminitrader> | Shorts ES @ 1495.75 |
<szubaark> | Shorts ES @ 1494.50 «« paper »» | 14:12 |
<eminitrader> | time to test the lows ..:) | 14:13 |
| looking more and more like this upswing is done with.. | 14:15 |
| any thoughts ? | 14:16 |
<szubaark> | somehow they manage to pop it 2 points higher, this would be 4th time since low | 14:17 |
<rickf> | may see a bit higher -- but the "witching" hour fast approaches :| |
<startrader> | traded to the first retrace level of days range at 96.50.That 95.25 close is the pivot, first break out of there I am riding or getting ou. |
<Brutus> | agree e , maybe 1 more | 14:18 |
<eminitrader> | true szu...thats why entries r so important ..lets us stay thru the noise with small risks |
<startrader> | er2 likes to stall at this 777 level and break hard too. stars are aligninging. |
<NihabaAshi> | Exited ER2 Long @ 778.00 --> + 2.4 | 14:19 |
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<eminitrader> | es trying hard to brek thru this area.. |
<startrader> | short hard now. | 14:20 |
<Brutus> | nope |
<eminitrader> | if it does do that ...next area of res is 1503 ..if that is taken out ...then trend has changed to the long side |
<szubaark> | 1496.50 was the retrace level |
<eminitrader> | k..ignore my earlier post | 14:21 |
<startrader> | yep, I love to see it pull a point away from that 15 min close and slam back through it. |
<NihabaAshi> | Looks like I exited my Long just in time. |
<eminitrader> | Covered 1/2 ES Short @ 1501.75 --> - 6 |
| oops | 14:22 |
| Covered 1/2 ES Short @ 1491.75 --> + 4 |
| much better :) |
<rickf> | lol - thought that looked weird | 14:23 |
<startrader> | Covered 1/2 ES Short @ 1492 --> + 4 «« paper »» |
<bulldog> | Niha...that was a nice trade. I had a sell limit @ 778.40 but didnt get hit |
<startrader> | target 89.75 on the last | 14:24 |
| Shorts ES @ 1491.50 -> Add «« paper »» | 14:28 |
<eminitrader> | exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 1595.75 | 14:29 |
| exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 1495.75 |
<startrader> | Covered 1/2 ES Short @ 1489.75 --> + 1.75 «« paper »» | 14:30 |
<eminitrader> | missed a fill @ 1488.75 | 14:31 |
| k got it now:) | 14:32 |
| Covered 1/3 ES Short @ 1488.75 --> + 7 |
<rickf> | nice one |
<eminitrader> | hld 1 |
| thx r |
<rickf> | not chasing this one | 14:33 |
<startrader> | 11.30 open and these 60 min closes are tight with strong 60 min reversal bar. Being we only retraced to fisrt level and dt't I am holding. |
| Covered 1/2 ES Short @ 1491 --> + 5 «« paper »» | 14:35 |
<ItalianSharp> | emini, i guess you are done for the day, week and maybe month after today? | 14:42 |
| enjoy your christmas...see you next year...LOL | 14:43 |
<szubaark> | Covered all Short ES at 1490.25 --> + 4.25 «« paper »» |
<eminitrader> | nice shorts guys :)) | 14:44 |
<Brutus> | yes agree |
<rickf> | sweet shorting |
<startrader> | Shorts ES @ 1489.50 «« paper »» | 14:45 |
<szubaark> | Shorts ES @ 1489 «« paper »» |
<Brutus> | es little wyckoff spring here |
<bulldog> | Long ER2 @ 773.80 «« paper »» |
<eminitrader> | u short too B | 14:46 |
<silo2> | wow emini... you're killing it today eh? | 14:47 |
<Brutus> | only got a little, had a larger scale in to 98 |
<startrader> | Shorts ES @ 1489 -> Add «« paper »» | 14:48 |
<eminitrader> | thx s |
<bulldog> | Long ER2 @ 773.30 -> Add «« paper »» | 14:49 |
<eminitrader> | exit stop lowered ES @ 1495.25 |
<szubaark> | Covered all Short ES at 1491 --> - 2 «« paper »» | 14:50 |
| Buys ES @ 1491 «« paper »» |
<startrader> | Covered all ES Short @ 1491 --> - 3.5 «« paper »» |
| tried to get filled at 88 with the strong bottom there. | 14:51 |
<szubaark> | feels like its holding here |
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<startrader> | Shorts ES @ 1490.25 «« paper »» | 14:53 |
| short avg of 90.75 really bad entries | 14:58 |
<szubaark> | Exited all Long ES at 1488 --> - 3 «« paper »» | 14:59 |
| Shorts ES @ 1488 «« paper »» |
| what a beautiful fakeout they did..always there is a surprise | 15:01 |
<Brutus> | looking like good entries now ST |
<startrader> | about 20 seconds after I posted they did. |
| when trading off the 60 min chart gotta give myself 60 min wiggle room. | 15:02 |
<bulldog> | Long ER2 @ 769.10 -> Add «« paper »» | 15:03 |
<szubaark> | Covered all Short ES at 1480 --> + 8 «« paper »» | 15:04 |
<startrader> | 11.30.07 opening 60 min (9:30) am bar is pivotal. high was 92.25, same as small swing high before selloff |
<eminitrader> | Covered Remainder ES Short @ 1478.25 --> + 17.5 |
| got my gap fill :)) |
<startrader> | Covered all ES Short @ 1479 --> + 11.25 «« paper »» |
<eminitrader> | wow...one of my best trading days ..in terms of pionts | 15:05 |
<szubaark> | yes,pretty amazing |
<Brutus> | excellent trading e |
<eminitrader> | thx szu B | 15:06 |
<bulldog> | Long ER2 @ 768.30 -> Add «« paper »» | 15:08 |
<startrader> | You are elargetrader! |
<eminitrader> | u had some hgood ones too :) | 15:09 |
<bulldog> | It's easy on paper! |
<eminitrader> | nice trading |
<szubaark> | bulldog, you ever traded Real Money before? |
<startrader> | Registered for marketzar tomorrow. After that to the carribean for xmass. |
<eminitrader> | :) | 15:10 |
<bulldog> | I traded some but got trapped on the wrong side so I need to correct mistakes |
| like the one I'm making now | 15:11 |
<szubaark> | yeah scaling in to losing position is tough | 15:12 |
<eminitrader> | hehehe |
* Trader222 | L ES 1475 insane risk |
<Trader222> | but have to do it (down gap fill to nite low) | 15:13 |
<eminitrader> | sorry couldn't resist...we all have been thru that |
<Trader222> | had scalped ES from 1477.50 pivot for +1s +2 but too fast to post it |
<rickf> | shorted 2 ES @ 1478 | 15:14 |
<eminitrader> | the piont though is why scalp on counter trend trades for ticks ...on trend days where staying with the trend cld help u make tons of pionts |
<startrader> | Shorts ES @ 1473.50 «« paper »» | 15:15 |
<szubaark> | anybody know on average how many trend days we get a month? (one way down or up trend) |
<bulldog> | I guees I still need to recognize the trend day and not mistake for a pivot | 15:16 |
<startrader> | jumped on that 15 min close for continuation. | 15:17 |
| Covered 1/2 ES Short @ 1469.50 --> + 4 «« paper »» |
| Covered Remainder ES Short @ 1471 --> + 2.5 «« paper »» | 15:18 |
* Trader222 | add L 1470, no fill at 67.6 |
<Trader222> | ave L 1471.8 |
* Trader222 | out most 1474.50 +2.5; rest BE | 15:19 |
<cmr> | szu: about trend days, see this thread regarding Taylor theory, 3 days cycle: | 15:21 |
| http://www.traderslaboratory.com/forums/ f110/taylor-trading-technique-oct-2007-a -2623.html |
* Trader222 | all out ES L 75 +3.2 | 15:22 |
<startrader> | Long ES @ 1474 «« paper »» | 15:25 |
<Trader222> | no post but scalped 1475 to 1474; back to flat | 15:27 |
| bulls need green close |
| but seems SO far away |
<startrader> | Exited all ES Long @ 1476 --> + 2 «« paper »» |
* Trader222 | Long 13,400 | 15:28 |
<rickf> | covered ES short @ 1477 +1pt | 15:29 |
<startrader> | Shorts ES @ 1478 «« paper »» |
* Trader222 | out YM Long +0 flat | 15:30 |
| bck Long YM 13,395ave 15pt stop | 15:35 |
<Trader222> | on thoughts they close dow over 13,400 |
* Trader222 | out YM -17 | 15:36 |
<startrader> | Covered 1/2 ES Short @ 1472 --> + 6 «« paper »» | 15:37 |
<bulldog> | Long ER2 @ 763.80 -> Add «« paper »» |
<startrader> | got more gaps to go |
<werner> | gn all | 15:38 |
<rickf> | gn | 15:39 |
<bulldog> | Exited all ER2 Long @ 770.40 --> + 3.2 «« paper »» | 15:52 |
| Lucky to get out of that without a loss | 15:53 |
<startrader> | Shorts ES @ 1485 «« paper »» |
<rickf> | ok guys done for the day. gnite tty tomorrow | 16:01 |
<Trader222> | cant wait to see what the insane overnights do | 16:02 |
| ES itself and SPX imo says higher tomorrow BUT bkx index is in the tiolet | 16:03 |
| i always forget, is front month at tomorrow's open, or at thur 440pm? | 16:07 |
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