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| Session Start: Mon Nov 12 09:23:19 2007Session Ident: #futurestrades |
* Now | talking in #futurestrades | 09:23 |
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<base> | GM all | 09:24 |
<Brutus> | gm | 09:26 |
<surfer279> | gm |
* stowe | adds to long ym 13049 | 09:27 |
| adds to long ym 13048 | 09:29 |
<NihabaAshi> | I'm expecting a light trading day today becasue of veterans day. | 09:30 |
* stowe | adds to long ym 13047 |
<ripsboy> | gm all.. |
* stowe | adds to long ym 13035 | 09:31 |
| adds to long ym 13039 |
| adds to long ym 13034 | 09:33 |
| adds to long ym 13028 | 09:34 |
<NihabaAshi> | Shorts ER2 @ 770.50 -> medium size |
<eminitrader> | Long ES @ 1451 | 09:35 |
<cron> | 3 |
<glory> | ER2 has some support at 769.50, but money flow is weak. | 09:36 |
<NihabaAshi> | Covered all ER2 Short @ 770.40 --> + 0.1 |
| too jumpy for me |
<eminitrader> | Exited 1/2 ES Long @ 1553 --> + 102 | 09:37 |
| oops |
| Exited 1/2 ES Long @ 1453 --> + 2 |
<stowe> | ym 13118 sems like a reasonable target | 09:38 |
<szubaark> | wow what a fast bounce |
<eminitrader> | Exited Remainder ES Long @ 1557 --> + 106 | 09:39 |
| oh man |
<NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 773.20 -> medium size |
<eminitrader> | Exited Remainder ES Long @ 1457 --> + 6 |
<szubaark> | emini nice trade |
<eminitrader> | thx szu |
| done for the day ...good trading all |
<szubaark> | lol |
<Tim_a> | nice w | 09:40 |
| e |
<NihabaAshi> | Geesh |
<stowe> | ym 13140 seems like an even more reasonable target---now that i think of it |
<Tim_a> | short workday, e |
<szubaark> | Fast Opening action so far | 09:41 |
<NihabaAshi> | Exited ER2 Long @ 775.20 --> + 2 | 09:42 |
| Holding 1 contract only |
<szubaark> | Shorts ES @ 1458 «« paper »» | 09:45 |
| Covered all Short ES at 1460.50 --> - 2.5 «« paper »» | 09:46 |
| Shorts ES @ 1461 «« paper »» | 09:47 |
<pdays> | Shorts ES @ 1461.75 | 09:49 |
<NihabaAshi> | resistance zone up here | 09:50 |
| Hopefully it doesn't hold |
| Other key marekts still holding their gains but not ER2... | 09:52 |
| It seems to want to do its own thing in this price pullback over the past minute. |
* stowe | sells some ym 13108 +58,+56,+59,+60,+61,+73,+69,+74,+80 from 13028 to 13052 longs | 09:53 |
<NihabaAshi> | Eurex Dax has a lot of long upper shadows (prior intervals) to climb above because its keeping it from going higher. |
* stowe | sells remaining ym 13100 +72,+72 from 13028 longs | 09:54 |
<NihabaAshi> | volatility declining...I'm now expecting a volatility spike here soon...hopefully upwards and not downwards. |
<pdays> | Covered all ES Short @ 1460.25 --> + 1.5 | 09:55 |
* stowe | short ym 13111 | 09:56 |
<szubaark> | hopefully i can get one more dip lower to exit half | 09:57 |
| Covered 1/2 Short ES at 1459.25 --> + 1.75 «« paper »» |
| exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 1461 «« paper »» |
<Nesi> | Long YM @ 13096 «« paper »» | 09:58 |
<NihabaAshi> | Dark Hammer line on ER2 2min chart...be careful. |
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<Nesi> | Long ER2 @ 777.00 «« paper »» | 10:00 |
<NihabaAshi> | Exited ER2 Long @ 776.30 --> + 3.1 | 10:01 |
| Reverse and Enter Short ER2 @ 776.30 |
| Covered ER2 Short @ 776.20 --> + 0.1 | 10:02 |
| no volatility on that position reversal... | 10:03 |
| volatilty still declining...waiting for the next volatility spike to shake things up a little...up or down. |
<szubaark> | Covered all Short ES at 1455.50 --> + 5.5 «« paper »» | 10:04 |
<NihabaAshi> | Gold, Oil, DAX and other key markets weaken over the past 5mins | 10:05 |
* stowe | covers ym 13050 +61 from 13111 short | 10:07 |
| long ym 13052 | 10:08 |
<NihabaAshi> | Shorts ER2 @ 775.80 -> small size |
<Brutus> | Good trades stowe |
<NihabaAshi> | intuition trade |
<stowe> | thanks brut |
* stowe | adds to long ym 13040 | 10:09 |
<NihabaAshi> | Covered 1/2 ER2 Short @ 774.60 --> + 1.2 |
* stowe | adds to long ym 13039 |
| adds to long ym 13035 | 10:10 |
| adds to long ym 13049 | 10:11 |
<NihabaAshi> | weak support...hopefully it doesn't give enough support to start a counter-thrust back upwards. | 10:12 |
<glory> | ER2 at Friday's close; YM tested Friday's low, so far holding. | 10:13 |
* stowe | adds to long ym 13039 | 10:15 |
<NihabaAshi> | Dark Hammer Line...2min ER2 | 10:16 |
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<stowe> | ym 13140 seems like a reasonable target again---now that i think of it | 10:24 |
<pat255> | gm all late ... |
<Nesi> | hi pat |
<NihabaAshi> | Covered ER2 Short @ 775.60 --> + 0.2 | 10:25 |
| Reverse and Enter Long ER2 @ 775.60 |
<pat255> | hi nesi Niha stowe |
<stowe> | all isn't here yet, so you're still early |
<NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 776.30 -> Add |
<stowe> | gm pat |
<szubaark> | Shorts ES @ 1459.75 «« paper »» |
| Covered 1/2 Short ES at 1458 --> + 1.75 «« paper »» | 10:26 |
| see minor Resistance here |
| exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 1459.75 «« paper »» | 10:27 |
| Covered all Short ES at 1459.75 --> 0 «« paper »» | 10:31 |
<NihabaAshi> | Exited 1/2 ER2 Long @ 778.10 --> + 1.8 |
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<pat255> | vn dang not looking to L side but ... | 10:32 |
<stowe> | turn your monitor over |
<pat255> | lol .. |
<NihabaAshi> | After the initial morning drop in Oil and Gold...those two key markets have been on bed rest (taking it easy). | 10:34 |
<pat255> | so far makinh hi high hi lows |
<NihabaAshi> | :( |
<Brutus> | new highs dont seem probable |
<szubaark> | Shorts ES @ 1457.75 «« paper »» | 10:35 |
<Brutus> | although bias for the day, more so afternoon would be long | 10:36 |
<szubaark> | Price stalling here at Resistance | 10:38 |
<NihabaAshi> | come one...push | 10:40 |
| Gold providing support and Oil trying to stabilize... |
<szubaark> | Covered all Short ES at 1460.50 --> - 2.75 «« paper »» |
<NihabaAshi> | Good time to try and make new intraday highs |
<szubaark> | Shorts ES @ 1460 «« paper »» | 10:41 |
<NihabaAshi> | That was a weak attempt (lack of interest) at a new intraday high :( | 10:42 |
| All other key markets sill in the same price range to help "encourage" ER2 for a new intraday high |
<szubaark> | Covered all Short ES at 1462.50 --> - 2.5 «« paper »» | 10:43 |
<NihabaAshi> | Exited ER2 Long @ 779.60 --> + 4 | 10:44 |
<szubaark> | Shorts ES @ 1462.75 «« paper »» |
* stowe | sells some ym 13135 +83,+95,+96 from 13052 to 13039 longs | 10:45 |
<pat255> | vn stowe wtg | 10:46 |
| S 63.75 es |
| tight stop |
| out 2 ticks .. | 10:48 |
| S not ready |
* stowe | sells remaining ym 13125 +90,+86,+76,86,+86 from 13035 to 13049 longs | 10:50 |
| short ym 13119 | 10:52 |
| adds to short ym 13115 | 10:53 |
<Brutus> | dang you are getting every swing today Stowe |
<stowe> | thanks brut--lets see if this one works too | 10:54 |
* stowe | adds to short ym 13111 |
| adds to short ym 13116 | 10:55 |
| adds to short ym 13127 | 10:56 |
| adds to short ym 13128 | 10:58 |
| adds to short ym 13138 | 11:02 |
| adds to short ym 13136 | 11:03 |
<Tim_a1> | what chart timeframe do you use stowe? | 11:06 |
<stowe> | 1,5,10 min. | 11:07 |
<Tim_a1> | thanks, nice shots this morning |
<stowe> | ty tym |
* stowe | adds to short ym 13144 | 11:08 |
| adds to short ym 13150 | 11:12 |
<Brutus> | Shorts ES @ 1467.25 «« paper »» |
<szubaark> | .61 Retrace of Friday's sell-off here,lets see |
<NihabaAshi> | Resistance up above 784.50 in ER2 | 11:14 |
| ER2 needs to move to above 786 price area to keep the Shorts from trying the exploit the price pullbacks. | 11:15 |
<Tim_a1> | ym almost reached the bottom middle of friday afternoon's 'M' formation |
<NihabaAshi> | volatility dropping fast in ER2 | 11:16 |
| I'm expecting a volatility spike here soon...up or down | 11:17 |
| Hopefully it sets up a price action to trade. |
<Brutus> | Covered ES Short @ 1465 --> + 2.25 «« paper »» | 11:19 |
<szubaark> | nice Brutus |
<Brutus> | thx sz4 |
<KKnn> | Shorts ES @ 783.20 | 11:22 |
| that should be ER@ | 11:23 |
* stowe | adds to short ym 13152 | 11:27 |
<Brutus> | Shorts ES @ 1467.5 «« paper »» | 11:28 |
| Covered 1/2 ES Short @ 1466.5 --> + 1 «« paper »» | 11:29 |
| Covered all ES Short @ 1468 --> - 0.5 «« paper »» | 11:30 |
* stowe | adds to short ym 13155 |
* sep34 | is now known as sep34_away | 11:33 |
<Tim_a1> | . | 11:46 |
<Brutus> | http://custom.marketwatch.com/custom/tda meritrade-com/html-story.asp?guid={d5eb1 eb9-1620-45c6-be29-8623f3b49940} | 11:52 |
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<eminitrader> | hi guys ..just turned the computer on... | 12:11 |
| my read is the day trend has changed.. | 12:12 |
| high probability retest of lows ..sell entry wild be 1564-1566 |
| since it has already touched that price ...move stops above todays high... | 12:13 |
<pat255> | hi em u S? |
<KKnn> | Covered all ES Short @ 781.20 --> + 2 |
<eminitrader> | low probability of new highs as of now...unless the flow changes as price goes by |
| was actually done pat,, | 12:14 |
<Brutus> | ER is very bullish today |
<eminitrader> | but yes this was too good to miss...short since 1465 |
<Brutus> | nq at other end | 12:15 |
<eminitrader> | B...MY comments only refer the ES |
<pat255> | thks em |
<eminitrader> | urw pat |
<Brutus> | ok thx, I think er's telling the truth today | 12:16 |
<eminitrader> | my stop though is 8 ticks |
<pat255> | k .. | 12:17 |
* codehead_afk | is now known as codehead |
<eminitrader> | cld happen B...the other indices may pull the ES back to an uptrend...but as of this moment flow shows a retest of lows rather than highs |
<Brutus> | after 17 pts up i see a good pullback/shakeout, so even a test of the lows not out of the question but not what Im looking for | 12:19 |
<eminitrader> | stopped out :( | 12:22 |
* stowe | adds to short ym 13160 |
<Brutus> | ym new highs |
<eminitrader> | but trend still down...unless we see new highs..cld not hold on to the noise |
<stowe> | now you tell me |
<eminitrader> | k guys see u all later ..good trading | 12:25 |
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* stowe | adds to short ym 13165 | 12:31 |
| adds to short ym 13167 | 12:42 |
<Brutus> | looks like a 2b reversal on the multiday trend line | 12:54 |
<stowe> | vic sperandeo? | 12:55 |
<Brutus> | yeah, no more whycoff spring |
<stowe> | http://www.dacharts.com/2b.htm | 12:56 |
<szubaark> | Brutus, Stowe good comment guys | 12:58 |
<stowe> | ofc it could just be an a-b-c break of the main fib line at the 38% resistance failure tto |
<Brutus> | tto? | 13:00 |
<stowe> | too |
| toto 2 |
<NihabaAshi> | Shorts ER2 @ 781.20 -> small size | 13:02 |
| 1 contract only because I'm in profit protection mode of my morning profits |
<Brutus> | whats your value for 38% resistance? | 13:03 |
<stowe> | brut i was joshing ya |
<Brutus> | k |
<stowe> | i could fib my way out of an a-b-c retracement to save my trend line if i had to | 13:04 |
| i couldn't fib my way out of an a-b-c retracement to save my trend line if i had to |
| actually, vic first book had some very good discussions on market psychology | 13:06 |
| http://www.amazon.com/Trader-Vic-Methods -Wall-Street-Master/dp/0471304972 | 13:07 |
<NihabaAshi> | Covered ER2 Short @ 781.10 --> + 0.1 | 13:09 |
| :( |
| I tighten my trailing stop too soon after it tested the 780.70 price area | 13:10 |
<Trader222> | have silly plumbing troubles since 9am : first time I'm at screens all bloody day | 13:12 |
<stowe> | hate when that happens |
<Trader222> | only thing good is IBM and AIG swing Credit option spreads from Fri are working | 13:13 |
<stowe> | ym 13061 seems like a good target | 13:16 |
<NihabaAshi> | sneaky bullish price action here for the past 5mins or so. | 13:27 |
| sneaky as in tricky |
| If it can drop about 5 ticks before attempting to go higher... | 13:28 |
| Could setup a nice Long trade. |
| volatility declining... | 13:29 |
| I'm expecting a volatility spike. |
| Hopefully it takes prices down to setup a Long position. |
| There's the volatility spike... | 13:31 |
| Lets see if it sets up something tradable. |
| volatility contracting again | 13:33 |
<pat255> | back ...looks like N.. | 13:34 |
<NihabaAshi> | Shorts ER2 @ 780.20 -> small size | 13:35 |
<szubaark> | Nice patience Niha waiting for your setup | 13:37 |
<NihabaAshi> | Geeesh...unexpected price action but Oil and Gold got me in the right direction |
<jperl> | done for today.... |
<NihabaAshi> | szu...I was looking for a bullish setup... |
<jperl> | trades here... |
<NihabaAshi> | It didn't appear but a bearish setup did appear. |
| Don't get married to our bias :) | 13:38 |
<jperl> | http://charts.dacharts.com/2007-11-12/JP ERL_013.jpg |
| lots of patience required for trading today |
<werner> | yep i have seen it |
<NihabaAshi> | Dark Hammer Line on the 1min chart | 13:39 |
<pat255> | had a good entry but lost patience ...sigh |
<werner> | tx niha |
<stowe> | maybe you're just not a good doctor |
<pat255> | y true .. |
| need to learn to execute well.. | 13:40 |
<Trader222> | dang: step away for 10min and miss it; hate this kinda trading; sorry for whine, lol |
<werner> | wow |
<NihabaAshi> | Covered ER2 Short @ 775.80 --> + 4.4 | 13:41 |
<werner> | nice |
<NihabaAshi> | It has a good chance to retrace back up into the lower price range of that prior Dark Hammer Line |
<Guest35179> | man i just stepped away to go to the kitchen and it drops 5 points, i hate that | 13:43 |
<Brutus> | 11/12/2007 13:38 *DJ EIA Head: OPEC Indicates A $50-$60/Bbl Oil Price Target |
<NihabaAshi> | I was only looking for a small WRB target on that Short...probably no more than a point. |
| Got much more than expected. |
| On that note...I'm done trading for the day. |
<Guest35179> | good one, niha | 13:44 |
<Brutus> | http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=2 0601087&sid=aCo9EOxC46cE&refer=home |
<NihabaAshi> | Going to go outside and finish getting the house and yard ready for the harsh winter that's around the corner. |
<pat255> | later... |
<NihabaAshi> | It's already snowing at the condon at the ski resort. | 13:45 |
| Everybody taking the skis to the shop to get them ready for skiing. |
| Take care all and see all tomorrow. | 13:46 |
* NihabaAshi | is now known as NihabaAshi_away |
<pat255> | k...thks |
<Brutus> | I have to get those barnacles of my yacht too | 13:47 |
| :)) |
<Trader222> | NihabaAshi_away: where are you city wise? |
<NihabaAshi_away> | Québec City | 13:48 |
<Trader222> | lovely city |
| know Toronto and Montreal better; esp Toronto; only in Quebec once and enjoyed myself. lovely culture |
| how far from Quebec is ski country? | 13:49 |
<NihabaAshi_away> | Two places within 2 hours North and one place (never been too) within 2 1/2 hours south | 13:50 |
<pat255> | & stowe hand it to u again ..u have guts .. | 13:51 |
<stowe> | thanks pat | 13:52 |
<Brutus> | stowe do you do your own calcs on the dow index and underlying stocks? | 13:54 |
<pat255> | no guts in this buisness ...cant make it .. |
<stowe> | no brut... | 13:55 |
| i just watch ym |
<Brutus> | just clean charts? volume? | 13:56 |
<szubaark> | "whats your secret sauce, tell us, tell us" | 13:57 |
<stowe> | well...imo volume is the most ambiguous indicator |
<pat255> | guts szu ... |
<stowe> | i don't have anything on my charts except the price candles |
<pat255> | szu he S from 11 all the way to 70 on ym.. | 13:58 |
<stowe> | 67 |
<Brutus> | excellent, vn |
* stowe | covers some ym 13091 +28,+24,+20,+25,+36 from 13111 to 13128 shorts | 14:04 |
<pat255> | wtg stowe ...nice job .. | 14:06 |
| very jerky movements on ym | 14:07 |
<stowe> | well, i was kinda lookin' for 13061 |
* sep34_away | is now known as sep34 | 14:10 |
* stowe | covers more ym 13083 +55,+53,+61 from 13138 to 13144 shorts | 14:21 |
| covers remaining ym 13093 +57,+59,+62,+67,+72,+74 from 13150 to 13167 shorts | 14:23 |
<Nesi> | vn stowe |
<stowe> | ty nes | 14:24 |
| had 2 chances to get that 061 and it just wouldn't go there | 14:25 |
<Nesi> | but very close.. cant ask for more than that :) |
<Tim_a1> | they did shake it pretty hard on the downside |
<stowe> | yeah...seems like they were grabbin' | 14:26 |
* stowe | long ym 13085 | 14:27 |
| adds to long ym 13095 | 14:28 |
| adds to long ym 13100 |
| adds to long ym 13105 | 14:29 |
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* stowe | sells some ym 13128 +43,+43,+33,+33 from 13085 to 13095 longs |
<Brutus> | 11/12/2007 14:32 *DJ OIL FUTURES: Nymex Crude Ends Dn $1.92 At $94.40/Bbl | 14:35 |
* stowe | sells remaining ym 13134 +34,+34,+31,+31,+31 from 13100 to 13105 longs | 14:36 |
| short ym 13138 | 14:37 |
| adds to short ym 13136 | 14:38 |
| adds to short ym 13134 |
| adds to short ym 13140 | 14:40 |
| adds to short ym 13147 |
| adds to short ym 13152 |
| adds to short ym 13157 | 14:42 |
| adds to short ym 13150 | 14:47 |
<Brutus> | hmm dont see ES droping much more | 14:56 |
| 1458.75 sup | 14:57 |
<Nesi> | Stowe does it again :) | 15:00 |
<stowe> | seems like ym 13080 would be nice |
<Brutus> | dang :) | 15:03 |
<Tim_a1> | you're a man of steel, stowe | 15:04 |
<rv> | Nice work S |
<stowe> | well...i gotta cover it first |
<Tim_a1> | lol |
<ripsboy> | NIce trade Stowe... | 15:05 |
<stowe> | ty rip |
<Brutus> | near completion I see the pattern, excellent that you saw it during the advance |
| You are going to reverse long arnt you? |
<stowe> | at 80? | 15:06 |
| maybe |
| i still think we might see 61 |
| i'd like 61 longs |
* stowe | covers some ym 13110 +28,+26,+24,+30,+30,+30 from 13134 to 13140 shorts | 15:11 |
<pat255> | what can i say stowe ...great trades ... | 15:12 |
<Tim_a1> | he's got the knack |
<pat255> | just superb ..trying to follow some .. |
| y |
* stowe | covers remaining ym 13115 to 13118 +32,+37,+39,+39,+32,+32 from 13147 to 13157 shorts | 15:13 |
<stowe> | thanks guys |
<Tim_a1> | yw | 15:14 |
* stowe | short ym 13118 | 15:15 |
| adds to short ym 13116 |
| adds to short ym 13117 |
| adds to short ym 13111 | 15:16 |
<Brutus> | I think this is going to be a good long into the close | 15:17 |
<yayaa> | yayaa shorts YM @ 13119 | 15:18 |
<Brutus> | Long ES @ 1456 «« paper »» | 15:22 |
| exit stop set ES @ 1453 «« paper »» | 15:23 |
* sep34 | is now known as sep34_away |
<Brutus> | Exited ES Long @ 1553 --> + 97 «« paper »» | 15:26 |
| Exited ES Long @ 1453 --> - 3 «« paper »» |
* stowe | covers all ym 13085 +32,+40,+40,+40,+39,+39,+39,+24,+24 from 13118 to 13111 shorts | 15:27 |
<rv> | Very nice S |
<stowe> | tanks |
<rv> | interesting technique u use, never saw that before | 15:28 |
* stowe | long ym 13075 | 15:29 |
| long ym 13077 |
| adds to long ym 13078 | 15:30 |
<yayaa> | Yayaa Covers YM short @ 13075 + 44 points |
* stowe | adds to long ym 13079 |
| adds to long ym 13081 |
| adds to long ym 13088 | 15:31 |
<stowe> | yaya...good patients | 15:32 |
* stowe | adds to long ym 13079 |
<yayaa> | Thanks stowe,sweet set up in out quick | 15:33 |
<stowe> | i love sweets |
<yayaa> | Ya once the quick push to the EMA knew we were headed south | 15:35 |
<pat255> | what ema yaya | 15:36 |
<Trader222> | stowe: curious; with your method: do you ever use any stops like YM 100 or anything? | 15:37 |
| if you dont mind my asking |
* stowe | sells all ym 13095 +20,+18,+17,+17,+17,+16,+14,+12,+5,+5,+1 4 from 13075 to 13088 longs | 15:38 |
<Brutus> | Stowe why do you like to trade the YM over other eminis? |
<stowe> | well...i don't have any "methods" |
| ym trades with the smallest increment | 15:39 |
| makes for better charts if you only look at price |
<Brutus> | do you find the patterns you look for are better with YM besides the tick increment? | 15:40 |
* stowe | long ym 13067 | 15:41 |
| adds to long ym 13070 |
| adds to long ym 13071 | 15:42 |
| adds to long ym 13080 |
<yayaa> | pat standart Exponential Moving Avg.2 day 15 minute chart along with MACD going negative. | 15:43 |
<pat255> | k thks |
<yayaa> | Price jammed to the EMA line after falling below in earlier time froame |
* stowe | adds to long ym 13074 |
| adds to long ym 13064 | 15:44 |
| adds to long ym 13061 |
<yayaa> | add in 45 minutes of larger vol.to the negative side |
| Now you see the follow thru to the YM dark side,hard to combat that vol. downside | 15:45 |
* stowe | adds to long ym 13046 |
| adds to long ym 13040 | 15:46 |
| adds to long ym 13035 |
<stowe> | well...brut, i want a smooth chart and i feel the smaller incremental moves yield a better chart without a lot of tails in candles at fast time frames | 15:48 |
* stowe | adds to long ym 13030 |
| adds to long ym 13026 | 15:49 |
<yayaa> | Wow I should have kept 1/2 short and rode the chart,never lose taking a profit though,pigs get slaughtered and all that:) |
<stowe> | also you can get slaughtered if you're wrong | 15:50 |
* stowe | adds to long ym 13007 |
<Brutus> | 1440 was a Fib target I had | 15:51 |
| called out Friday before that selloff |
| Did not expect this today | 15:52 |
* stowe | adds to long ym 13015 |
<yayaa> | Brutus on the ES? | 15:54 |
<Brutus> | ya, ya |
<stowe> | you made a limmerick |
<Brutus> | isnt that rumple stiltskin? | 15:55 |
<stowe> | could be | 15:56 |
<ItalianSharp> | man, they aint done selling yet |
* stowe | adds to long ym 13008 | 15:58 |
<stowe> | looks like an overnighter for turnaround tuesday |
<ItalianSharp> | stowe, what if it doesnt turnaround? what's your risk tolerance | 15:59 |
* stowe | adds to long ym 12995 | 16:00 |
<yayaa> | Trap door tells me not to hold unless I'm short |
<stowe> | is there a sign on it? |
<ItalianSharp> | this thing looks really bearish |
<yayaa> | The door opening will get tighter my friends\ |
<ItalianSharp> | bullish signals have been failing miserably |
| bearish pressure too strong now IMO | 16:01 |
<stowe> | mine always said "no girls allowed" |
<yayaa> | wait till funds go and protect their earnings for year end,how much tolerence do they have? | 16:02 |
| that was ugly ending WITH VOL! |
<ItalianSharp> | increasing volume on this downmove spells trouble for tomorrow | 16:03 |
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<pat255> | back yeah yaya that is a thot.. |
<stowe> | there's always something to woory about |
<pat255> | if bleed continues funds will unload |
<Brutus> | 1440 looks good |
| ============ U.S. MARKETS ACTION =========== | 16:04 |
| DJIA down 25.85 points to 13015.83 |
| NASDAQ down 38.62 points to 2589.37 |
| S&P 500 down 11.70 points to 1441.93 |
| 10-year T-note down 0/32 at 99 17/32 yield 4.306 |
| NYMEX Spot Crude down $0.74 at $93.87/bbl |
| Dollar/Euro down 0.0130 at 1.4538 |
<stowe> | i'm worried that new england won't go 17-0 and break miami's record this year |
<Brutus> |
http://custom.marketwatch.com/custom/tda meritrade-com/html-story.asp?guid={80051 1f7-f821-4c42-934a-66e68664bec7} |
<pat255> | lol stowe ...freaking worries . |
<stowe> | i'm also worried i won't get universal healthcare for free | 16:05 |
| i'd hate to pay for it |
<yayaa> | Stow I'm with you/ the Pats,15 miles NW of Beantown:))) | 16:06 |
<Brutus> |
http://custom.marketwatch.com/custom/tda meritrade-com/html-story.asp?guid={e68b5 f3b-8428-43dc-84b2-27de6ecf29f7} |
<ItalianSharp> | new england must be the best team ever...they look unstoppable |
<stowe> | tons of football worries...what if mcnabb gets traded to minnesota? |
<Brutus> | yen carry trade in trouble | 16:07 |
* stowe | adds to long ym 12999 | 16:09 |
<yayaa> | Italian,3 factors for Pats,Talent,No Injuries,& Lucky QB named Brady. Lucky in many ways if you get my drift:) | 16:11 |
<stowe> | we don't have football where i live | 16:13 |
| dunno what they do...but it sure ain't football | 16:14 |
| there's a high school nearby |
| San francisco | 16:15 |
<Brutus> | time to shut down cu people |
<stowe> | call if you get work |
| cya tommari, bring a bottle of campari | 16:16 |
<yayaa> | G'night all,btw going with Seattle and under this p.m.:))))))))) | 16:17 |
<stowe> | just around the corner there's a rainbow in the sky, so lets have another cup of coffee and lets have another piece of pie |
| don't let the bed bugs bite | 16:18 |
* stowe | is now known as all |
<all> | bye |
* all | is now known as Stowe |
<Stowe> | bye all |
<Trader222> | where's next lower support? | 16:22 |
<werner> | gn all | 16:28 |
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