August 23rd Wednesday 2006 Trade Log

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Intuition trading or instinctive trading shouldn't be done if your a newbie trader or new to a particular trading instrument.

In fact, I strongly believe that those traders that do intuition trading (including me)...should only do such after many years experience in the markets and only with a few simple rules.

My intuition trading has improved dramatically after I was able to understand and develop a feel for ER2 volatility levels as it traverses from one WRB to the next WRB.

This edge gets a lot of support from other key trading instruments in other well watched markets, key market events and from my experience level as a trader.

Also, intuition trading should only be done with a small size in comparison to the normal position size due to the increased risk exposure.

Today's results (real money and simulator trading) shown above are that of NihabaAshi only. To see his total accumulated points for the month of August...click here. To see results for the months of 2006 and prior years...click here.

Commentary by M.A. Perry (a.k.a. NihabaAshi)  
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Note: Each month there are a few trading days that we consider to involve interconnecting key price action of different markets and you can view the charts associated with the key price action along with their stories at our key chart story archives.

  

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Session Start: Wed Aug 23 09:30:12 2006Session Ident: #futurestrades
* Now talking in #futurestrades09:30
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<pat255> gm all..09:31
<eminitrader> morn pat
<pat255> gm emini niha & others09:32
<asuni> gm pat
<deepitm> gm all09:33
<eminitrader> morn d
<szubaark>  Buys NQ @ 1572.75 09:35
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<pat255> S 1303 es09:36
<szubaark>  Exited all Long NQ at 1575.50 --> + 2.75
<eminitrader> nice quick scalp szu ..good start :)
<szubaark> bought the breakout of yersturday's late range AND HOLD of Globex High09:37
<eminitrader> noticed that
<pat255> out es 03.5 - 2 ticks09:40
<eminitrader> 09:40] <eminitrader> that was an aggresive trade
<deepitm> econ for today - New Housing starts @9:00 Crude inventories @9:30 (cst)
<eminitrader> yep ..thx09:41
  
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<szubaark> any speeches today? Ive noticed yersurday's selloff was caused by Fed Speech of course it wasnt posted on any of the Retail Trader reports i look at09:42
<eminitrader> not aware of any

today
<szubaark> emini notice how they make sure we dont get too much info. think only Deutsche Bank and Goldman know that stuff09:43
<jperl> TotalMarkets opened green this morning....

http://charts.dacharts.com/2006-08-23/JP ERL_019.png
<eminitrader> shouldn't bother us szu ..09:44
what really pissed me was yest. pa near the 50-60% retrace of the downmove ..tape moves up on every single buy contract and moves down one tick on a 10009:47
dont know if thats real strenght ..if it falls may see a big downmove..but like everyone says ..dont fight the tape09:48
<szubaark>  Buys NQ @ 1575.75 09:52

exit stop moved to breakeven NQ @ 1575.75 09:54

Exited all Long NQ at 1575.75 --> 0 09:55

Bad entry
<NihabaAshi>  Shorts ER2 @ 711.60 -> small size 09:56
intuition trade
Will reverse if needed due to a pending 10am key econ report.09:57
Covered 1/2 ER2 Short @ 711.10 --> + 0.5 09:59
<szubaark>  Shorts NQ @ 1573 10:00
<pat255> wow...drop like a rock10:01
<NihabaAshi>  Covered Remainder ER2 Short @ 709.70 --> + 1.9
<pat255> vn niha10:02
<szubaark> nice report trade Niha
<yo> indd very good
<eminitrader>  Shorts ES @ 1302.50 10:06

Covered 1/2 ES Short @ 1301 --> + 1.5 10:08
<pat255> vn emini10:09
<eminitrader> thx pat
<pat255> dang dial up slow @office ...
<szubaark>  Covered all Short NQ at 1569.75 --> + 3.25 10:10
<pat255> vn szu
<szubaark> thanks
<eminitrader>  Covered Remainder ES Short @ 1299.50 --> + 3 10:11
nice shorts szu
<pat255> :) vn
<NihabaAshi>  Shorts ER2 @ 707.50 -> small size
<szubaark> you too. maybe we got out little too early :)
<eminitrader> i'm happy ..got my targets10:12
<szubaark> wow ER dropping like a rock
<NihabaAshi> szu...I got caught changing brokers because I wanted to trade EuroFX...
reason why I missed getting back into ER2 soon after that first short.
:(10:13
<szubaark> so Niha u in a Euro trade also now?
<NihabaAshi> No...but I'm looking for a trade in it.
<eminitrader>  Long ES @ 1299.50 10:14
<NihabaAshi> President Bush is live on the financial TV networks :(10:15
<eminitrader>  Exited ES Long @ 1299 --> - 0.5

Reverse and Enter Short ES @ 1299
<NihabaAshi>  Covered 1/3 ER2 Short @ 706.50 --> + 1
Covered 1/3 ER2 Short @ 706.00 --> + 1.5 10:16
<eminitrader>  Covered ES Short @ 1299 --> 0 10:18

Reverse and Enter Long ES @ 1299
<NihabaAshi> I'm very surprised by the price reaction to the 10am econ report.
It feels like an "over-reaction".10:19
I don't read the numbers of these reports but there must have been some record breaking numbers (bad or good) in recent comparison to prior numbers.
<deepitm> Inventory of unsold homes rose to a 7.3 month supply - highest since 199310:21
<NihabaAshi> Wow
I wonder if the housing stocks are getting hit hard.10:22
<Chilly>  Long YM @ 11354
<szubaark>  Shorts NQ @ 1567.25 10:23
<NihabaAshi> EuroFX not doing so hot now after the initial pop to the upside.
<Chilly>  exit stop set YM @ 11339 10:24
<szubaark>  exit stop set NQ @ 1569 10:26

Covered all Short NQ at 1569 --> - 1.75 10:28

Shorts NQ @ 1567.50 10:30
<pat255> k guys biab ..back to work ty all
<eminitrader> bye pat
<pat255> later emini10:31
<asd> Short ER2 @ 706.5 risk 2
<NihabaAshi> Oil Index and ETFs dropping hard.
Shorts ER2 @ 706.00 -> Add 10:32
Re-added the 2 contracts i covered earlier.10:33
<szubaark> widening Stop, not gonna let them shake me out
<asd> Cover ER2 @ 705.5
<eminitrader>  Exited 1/2 ES Long @ 1300 --> + 1 10:34
<NihabaAshi> The trade posting script doesn't do the math correctly when I do adds...10:35
I'll post the corrections after the errors :)
<asuni> it seems a wrb could arrive in er2
<marklc> short eur 1.281910:36
<NihabaAshi> Volatility not low enough to catch my attention in ER2...hopefully soon so I can make a decision about these adds.

ER2 volatility slowly declining now.10:38

I'm now expecting a volatility spike...hopefully in the direction of my trade.10:39
<deepitm>  Long YM @ 11350
<NihabaAshi>  Covered 1/3 ER2 Short @ 705.80 --> + 0.2 10:41
<Chilly>  Exited all YM Long @ 11355 --> + 1 10:42
<marklc> out + 110:43
<eminitrader>  Exited Remainder ES Long @ 1299 --> 0 10:44
<NihabaAshi> Oil getting weaker
<asuni> here it comes
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<NihabaAshi>  Covered 1/3 ER2 Short @ 704.40 --> + 3.1 10:45
That's +1.60 on that contract and not +3.110:46
Still holding one contract from 707.50 level.
<asuni> vn trade management niha
<eminitrader>  Long ES @ 1297.75 10:47
<deepitm>  Exited all YM Long @ 11340 --> - 10
<szubaark>  Covered all Short NQ at 1562.25 --> + 5.25 10:49
<deepitm> I would have thought the inventory supply would have helped a little. After watching the nimble trading of NihabaAshi and szubaark I have a lot to learn
<eminitrader> very nice szu10:50
<szubaark> thanks.

probobly gonna take it easy now.10:52
<NihabaAshi> deepitm...I think the market is still having some "residual price reaction" to yesterday's FED comments around 1pm est.
Covered Remainder ER2 Short @ 702.90 --> + 4.6 10:57
  
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<eminitrader> nice :)
<asuni> wow
<szubaark>  Go Niha!
<NihabaAshi> Perfect timing to be done for the day because I have a lot of website work to do right now.
<jperl> time to take a break....here are this mornings trades...11:02

http://charts.dacharts.com/2006-08-23/JP ERL_0110.png
<szubaark> nice jperl11:03
<jperl> tx

If I'm not back this afternoon...hope you have a good next week...

I'll be gone till after labor day....enjoy!11:04
<Chilly> c ya
<eminitrader> yave fun

Long ES @ 1295.75 -> Add 11:08

[09:48] <+eminitrader> dont know if thats real strenght ..if it falls may see a big downmove..but like everyone says ..dont fight the tape11:13

what an irony ...here i am dding yo my longs :(11:14
<Chilly>  Long YM @ 11316
bottom feeding ... I expect to be punished
<eminitrader> i;m avgering to get out @ b/e11:15
<szubaark> these bounce attempts look weak
<eminitrader> should retrace at least t0 1298-1300
<szubaark> pretty violant drop.11:18
<eminitrader> true szu

Long ES @ 1294.25 -> Add 11:20

slast add..holding 5 long

exit stop set ES @ 1292.75

avg long 1295.5011:22
<Chilly> YM bars have felt spikey ... sellers must have some downside target that I can't see ... lots of fuel if market turns
which would be a surprise11:23
<eminitrader> t2 = around 1297
<szubaark> be back around pm.. im definetly not touching this11:24
* szubaark is now known as szubaark_away
<Chilly>  exit stop set YM @ 11296
<eminitrader> scalpers haven't started covering at11:25
<Chilly> funny thing is I had the bar before the 10am number bracketed but didn't pull trigger ... thought too risky11:27
now taking on more risk because missed the boat ... I deserve to be spanked by the market :)11:28
<eminitrader>  Exited all ES Long @ 1296 --> 0 11:43
<szubaark_away> 1296 was your breakeven?11:44
<eminitrader> 295.50 szu11:45

1295.50
<Chilly>  Exited all YM Long @ 11318 --> + 2
b/e on day
<eminitrader> holding on to my am gains11:46
<Chilly> good job
<eminitrader> should have some good pm moves ..willstart selling 1298-130011:47
<Chilly> too many mental mistakes for me today ... going to purge the emotions ... bbl11:52
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<deepitm> Lunch11:58
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* szubaark_away is now known as szubaark13:09
<szubaark>  Shorts NQ @ 1556.25 13:10

exit stop set NQ @ 1559 13:12

risky trade due to lunch games13:15
<eminitrader>  Long ES @ 1295.25 13:27
* NihabaAshi is now known as NihabaAshi_away13:33
<Awash_afk> .13:36
<eminitrader>  Exited all ES Long @ 1294.25 --> - 1
<szubaark> emini i would wait for a double bottom test for a Long13:39
1294 then try if it holds
but trend is down now so im Shorting
  

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<Chilly> messy 2B TOB's forming

yeah Szu!13:40
<szubaark> 2B TOBs?
<Chilly> double bottom test of days low as you said

er2 has one I think ... sloppy13:41
<szubaark> there she blows
<Chilly> now es

now ym ... yee ha

I'm now looking to buy a bull flag on YM5 ... if one forms13:42
<szubaark>  Covered all Short NQ at 1553 --> + 3.25 13:47
<Chilly> great work today!
<szubaark> thanks.. Nice chart today, i can read this Price Action.
<Chilly> larger sense perhaps that the market is overbought ... sellers fully in charge ... I really missed today's bias.13:53
<szubaark> oil tanking also13:55
<Chilly> ah, oil companies profits will be less so sell13:57
<pat255> hi back for a little bit..14:12
everything red..gl14:13
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<pat255> k guys biab ..back to work..ty all14:51
<jperl> well a couple more trades this afternoon....15:02

http://charts.dacharts.com/2006-08-23/JP ERL_0111.png

overall a good day....

see you in September
<Chilly> good job .. see you jperl
Long ER2 @ 698 15:06
exit stop set ER2 @ 698.10 15:07
if shorts aren't done, I'm not hangin' around15:08
Trailing Stop Hit ER2 @ 698.10 --> + 0.1 15:11
missed the scalp again ... not my day15:12
<codehead> long YM 11295 <paper>

just testing a friend's turn time15:13

so far Ym looking strongest, yet can't get cci past +100

touched it three times15:14

add 11289 YM <paper>

chop, just testing the turn time

exit the add, +515:19

<paper>15:20
<Chilly>  Long ER2 @ 698.70 15:22
exit stop set ER2 @ 696.50 15:25
<codehead> exit half YM +7 <paper>15:26

hold rest to close, testing the turn time15:27
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<Chilly>  exit stop raised ER2 @ 698.80 15:35

exit stop raised ER2 @ 699.80 15:38

Trailing Stop Hit ER2 @ 699.80 --> + 1.1
<yo> nice15:40
<Chilly> thanks

so tomorrow we've got 2 numbers pre-market and 2 after open to keep us on our toes ;)15:43
<codehead> exit remainder YM +15 <paper>15:46
<Chilly> gn folks15:54
<NihabaAshi_away> Take care all and see all tomorrow...should be another good trading day.16:23
  
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