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| Session Start: Fri Jul 27 06:38:51 2007Session Ident: #futurestrades |
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* Awash_break | is now known as Awash | 09:06 |
* subq | market profile charts for today | 09:19 |
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| http://www.charthub.com/images/2007/07/2 7/es_rth_mp.png | 09:20 |
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<NihabaAshi> | I won't be around until early afternoon. |
| Will be heading out the door around 0945am est. |
| Talk to all later and do not share the password with anyone even if its someone you saw in here before. | 09:23 |
* NihabaAshi | is now known as NihabaAshi_away |
<jperl> | 1 yr ER2 chart here..... | 09:25 |
| http://charts.dacharts.com/2007-07-27/JP ERL_011.jpg |
| price action is below the VWAP and PVP..... |
| only saving grace is that the VWAP > PVP so market is skewed to the long side | 09:26 |
<Brutus> | respectively. Exporters were also hurt when the yen rose to a three-month high against the dollar, diminishing overseas earnings. Refiners took a beating as well after Exxon Mobil (XOM) reported its steepest decline in five years... AROUND ASIA: Indexes in Taiwan, South Korea, Singapore, Thailand and Indonesia all fell more than 3%, while China was the only nation not to succumb to the pressure, the benchmark was virtuall | 09:27 |
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<PapaJon> | gm all | 09:30 |
<base> | GM all | 09:31 |
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<Awash> | good morning all |
* sep34_away | is now known as sep34 |
<eminime68> | moring |
<Brutus> | 1000/1400 Jul Reuters/Univ Mich Index, final 91.2 92.4 | 09:47 |
| 07/27/2007 09:45 DJ OIL FUTURES: Nymex Crude Gains; US Economy Grows Most In A Yr |
<ItalianSharp> | CNBC is showing bush speaking...is that a tape or is it live? | 09:54 |
<jperl> | Bush speaking....sell everything |
<pdays> | Consumer Sent est 91.2 in @ 90.4 | 10:00 |
<pat255> | gm all |
| S 87.5 es paper | 10:03 |
| no live trades for me @office...:( | 10:04 |
| out -1 | 10:05 |
<Awash> | trend up, visible HL & HH | 10:12 |
<pat255> | es almost 20 pts from low | 10:14 |
<Awash> | yep |
| 1470 area is a critical Support area | 10:15 |
<pat255> | not gonna hold | 10:27 |
<jperl> | done for the morning.....trades here.... | 10:28 |
| http://charts.dacharts.com/2007-07-27/JP ERL_012.jpg |
<Awash> | you done already |
<jperl> | for now |
<Awash> | nice trades |
<jperl> | tx |
<PapaJon> | good job jp | 10:29 |
<jperl> | tx |
<Brutus> | 07/27/2007 10:29 DJ UPDATE: Bush Praises Strong Economy, Strength In US Exports | 10:31 |
| It aint working today |
<venedom> | gm | 10:54 |
| how is everyone |
<szubaark> | good.. | 10:56 |
| Nice Volatility | 10:57 |
<Awash> | very nice | 10:59 |
<pat255> | 13 pt flip on es |
<Awash> | Shorts ES @ 1487 | 11:11 |
| Covered 1/2 ES Short @ 1483.50 --> + 3.5 | 11:15 |
<Brutus> | nice one A | 11:16 |
<Awash> | thanks |
| got a nice fill at the 50% Ret point of 1487.25 area |
| exit stop lowered ES @ 1486.75 | 11:17 |
<venedom> | Shorts ER2 @ 790.2 | 11:22 |
| Covered all ER2 Short @ 789.20 --> + 1 |
| too fast no time to type |
<base> | Fast money, good money. :) | 11:23 |
<Awash> | :) | 11:24 |
| Covered all ES Short @ 1483.50 --> + 3.5 | 11:25 |
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<venedom> | lol base |
| summer friday? | 11:29 |
<base> | Looks like, volume has dried out. | 11:32 |
<AusTrader00> | guess not.. | 11:38 |
| Long ES @ 1478 «« paper »» | 11:39 |
<Awash> | Aus trader, you from Australia | 11:41 |
<AusTrader00> | Exited 1/2 ES Long @ 1482 --> + 4 | 11:42 |
| HI.. yep. |
<Awash> | nice trade |
| what time is it there? |
<AusTrader00> | 1:40am |
<Awash> | geez |
<AusTrader00> | yess.. lol. |
| just got up from my nap. |
<Awash> | at least you had a nap | 11:43 |
<Brutus> | Hi AT, I'm in adelaide, which city are you in? |
<AusTrader00> | Hey.. Brutus... sydney here. |
| You have many nice trading calls ..... Awash.... seen the logs...... | 11:44 |
| Exited Remainder ES Long @ 1749.75 --> + 271.75 | 11:47 |
| oppps |
| the other way around....... this would have been nice. |
<Brutus> | AT give us your background, style, experience etc | 11:48 |
<AusTrader00> | Only recently switch from asx equilty to the emini... trading with RSI setup / FIB + Gartley.. | 11:50 |
| u? |
<Brutus> | 1.5 years on emini's more price action volume, some Fib | 11:52 |
| Niha had a trader profile section but it seems empty now | 11:53 |
<AusTrader00> | what time u normally trade till? | 11:54 |
<Brutus> | till the close |
<AusTrader00> | wow.. so u do this full time.... |
<Brutus> | trying :) | 11:55 |
<AusTrader00> | goodluck... |
| Long ES @ 1474.50 | 11:56 |
<Brutus> | thx, u 2 |
<AusTrader00> | Long ES @ 1474.50 |
| opps... |
| Exited 1/4 ES Long @ 1476.50 --> + 2 | 11:58 |
| Exited Remainder ES Long @ 1474 --> - 0.5 | 11:59 |
<Brutus> | 10 Year still dropping 4.75 | 12:07 |
* Looking | up TP9496 user info... | 12:09 |
<venedom> | lod in sigh | 12:11 |
<Awash> | yep |
* NihabaAshi_away | is now known as NihabaAshi | 12:12 |
<venedom> | missed by 3 t |
| maybe CIA N? |
<NihabaAshi> | :) |
<venedom> | new attemp coming Awash | 12:13 |
<Awash> | Venedom, i look at S/R as a zone, not specifically just a price of 1471 | 12:14 |
<AusTrader00> | s&p siting on 200days MA.. |
<Awash> | so as long as PA trades within that area, it's support to me |
<venedom> | just an observation | 12:15 |
<Awash> | i tried shorting 1496.50 this morning and didn't get it because i was too focused on that price area, that i didn't jump in at 1495.75 |
<Brutus> | Technical Moving Averages | 12:16 |
| 50-Day 200-Day |
| S&P 1521 1446 |
| Dow 13585 12733 |
| NASDAQ 2614 2483 |
<Awash> | Aus, is that a simple MA | 12:17 |
<doublejay> | hi all |
<jperl> | ER2 volume distribution is now symmetric..... | 12:18 |
| PVP = VWAP = 790.20 |
| If this market is going to turn around.... |
| it better do it now |
<Awash> | this is a good support level on daily | 12:19 |
| good volume rolling in |
<Brutus> | yep |
<Awash> | Bullish Engulfing on 5min candle | 12:20 |
<AusTrader00> | yep,awash.... 1475.65 MA. |
<Awash> | k |
| i have 1447.64 as 200sMA |
<Brutus> | Got a feeling we will take out the low again early afternoon then rally into the close | 12:21 |
<Awash> | will watch |
<Brutus> | AT the values I posted was SMA |
| http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/intchar t/frames/main.asp?time=8&freq=1&compidx= aaaaa:0&comp=NO_SYMBOL_CHOSEN&ma=4&maval =67&uf=0&lf=268435456&lf2=2&lf3=4&type=4 &style=320&size=4&sid=0&o_symb=spx&start date=&enddate=&show=&symb=spx |
| sheez 6 points looks like nothing on tthese charts | 12:23 |
<Awash> | i was just thinking that |
| it's a big move but it looks like nothing |
<Brutus> | NQ palying catchup | 12:33 |
<Awash> | these Bears are serious about pushing the market down | 12:34 |
| they're not letting up | 12:35 |
<Brutus> | Going to be about a 100pt swing soon |
<venedom> | ym? |
<Brutus> | ES from 1565 | 12:36 |
<venedom> | u mean from high |
| I though you were predicting a swing now... lol | 12:37 |
<Brutus> | http://custom.marketwatch.com/custom/tda meritrade-com/html-story.asp?guid={ebcee ffc-6d37-44a5-934c-38e68ce68d14} | 12:40 |
<venedom> | dow -96 now | 12:44 |
| chop time | 12:55 |
<Brutus> | I'm looking for a full retacement of this spike, would be better if it goes another leg higher, test/ breaks lows then a good rally to the close |
| But I see/think the Bigs are accumulating longs at these levels | 12:57 |
<Awash> | Long ES @ 1476.75 | 13:05 |
<Brutus> | 2nd less unlikely scenario is for down close, for more bearish headlines over the weekend, then on Monday morning wash out the lows (for mom and pop) and rally for the rest of the week. |
| This doesnt help for intra day trading, just a ramble :) | 13:06 |
<AusTrader00> | Nice call Awash,,, couldn't see that coming myself.. | 13:08 |
<Awash> | exit stop raised ES @ 1477 |
| damn | 13:09 |
| Exited all ES Long @ 1477 --> + 0.25 |
| that was quick |
| every attempt up, sellers come in | 13:11 |
<AusTrader00> | bouncing off the trend line. |
<venedom> | 782-786 | 13:12 |
<AusTrader00> | I thought it was good for a short call the last long u did :) |
<Awash> | buyers stepping back in | 13:17 |
| i hate chasing | 13:18 |
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<Awash> | Long ES @ 1481.50 | 13:43 |
<Brutus> | 2nd test of fib 50 |
<Awash> | Exited all ES Long @ 1480.50 --> - 1 |
<Brutus> | sell the second, buy the third | 13:44 |
<venedom> | its going to be an interesting close I expected a short cover soon |
<Awash> | looks like there's still some selling there | 13:45 |
| Long ES @ 1481.50 | 13:47 |
| last attempt | 13:48 |
<venedom> | rus -2.5 |
<Awash> | Exited all ES Long @ 1481.50 --> 0 | 13:49 |
<venedom> | now it will fly ;( |
<Awash> | PA, snapped back to my trailing stop | 13:50 |
<venedom> | rus -1 | 13:52 |
<Awash> | breakout confirmed |
<venedom> | what a move and its friday | 13:54 |
| Long ER2 @ 790 | 13:55 |
<AusTrader00> | Trend channel holding up well. | 13:56 |
<venedom> | Exited all ER2 Long @ 791 --> + 1 | 13:57 |
<Brutus> | no fill on short at 1485 | 13:58 |
<venedom> | its going there again | 13:59 |
| imho |
| Long ER2 @ 789 | 14:00 |
| that 1 make me suffer | 14:04 |
<Brutus> | The low today and the rally still feel weak, and I would have expected more emotion, therfore I feel there may be some good selling Monday |
<szubaark> | you definetly have to be quick on the trigger today | 14:05 |
<venedom> | Exited all ER2 Long @ 789 --> 0 | 14:06 |
| so many thing between today and monday bbq summer pool :) |
<Brutus> | feb 27th was tuesday monday 5th marked a pivotal and market went up about 50 points from there |
<venedom> | Long ER2 @ 788.8 | 14:09 |
| these will be my last trade | 14:10 |
<jperl> | Well I see ER2 did bounce back to the VWAP @788.90 |
<base> | ER2 has retraced to 50% of its daily range. | 14:11 |
<jperl> | That was the expectation when PVP=VWAP.... | 14:12 |
<venedom> | Exited all ER2 Long @ 78.2 --> - 710.6 |
| Exited all ER2 Long @ 788.2 --> - 0.6 |
<jperl> | market is symmetric |
<venedom> | thats better |
| lol |
<base> | :) | 14:13 |
<AusTrader00> | Hit suppport trend line | 14:14 |
<base> | Simple MA20? :) | 14:15 |
| The last two hits of the trend line was identical with hits of actually supporting SMA20 curve. | 14:19 |
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<AusTrader00> | Broken trendline... | 14:23 |
| Just the support trend line.... no MA. | 14:24 |
| the trend channel held up pretty well in the past 2 hrs...... | 14:25 |
| going south park now.. :) | 14:26 |
<base> | Yes, there was a decision area at the 50% daily range. Looks it has decided to go south. Park :) | 14:30 |
<AusTrader00> | 1476 resistance hold :P | 14:31 |
| maybe not.. here we come. |
| LOL held up again. | 14:32 |
<base> | No matter that I am watching ER2, but we can see pretty the same price action. :) |
<jperl> | HOld up at 1st stddev 784.35 | 14:33 |
<base> | It is also fibo line 23.6%. :) |
| The same for regular vertical trendline and the SMA20 a while ago. Different tools and indicators, the same results. :) | 14:34 |
<AusTrader00> | Not using Gartley ? | 14:35 |
| can't beat gartley for price action, prediction. |
<base> | No, I have never heard about Gartley. What is it? | 14:36 |
<Brutus> | I have seen Gartly butterfly is that all of it AT | 14:37 |
<AusTrader00> | Just a pattern I use for predicting the next movement....... you should read up.... | 14:39 |
| yeah butterfly.. real good. |
<intowin> | short ES @ 1481.25 | 14:40 |
<base> | AusTrader00: Can you point me somewhere? I will take a look. | 14:41 |
<AusTrader00> | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid= 2544288537800337552&q=gartley+patterns&t otal=5&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&p lindex=0 | 14:42 |
| opps... i think I'm not allow to post other vendor related stuff here ? |
<base> | I did not konow it is commercial stuff, no problem. Thanks anyway. | 14:43 |
<AusTrader00> | yeah..sorry.... | 14:44 |
<intowin> | short ES @ 1484.50 |
| add |
<base> | Hm, I have hoped to take some short position ... |
<intowin> | exit stop set ES @ 1488.25 | 14:47 |
| Covered all ES Short @ 1488.25 --> - 3.75 | 14:54 |
| didnt see that coming |
<base> | :( |
| It is Friday, many people was short over the week so we can see the price to go up a bit as they will be closing their positions before the weekend. | 14:56 |
<intowin> | looks that way |
| short ES @ 1485 | 15:00 |
<Brutus> | 07/27/2007 15:01 DJ OIL FUTURES: Nymex Crude Ends Near Record; Demand Fears Ease | 15:03 |
<GoodMood> | why does the price go UP when fears EASE ??? | 15:07 |
<Brutus> | http://custom.marketwatch.com/custom/tda meritrade-com/html-story.asp?guid={f3e0b 290-da65-4b61-812b-9fe786dacc06} | 15:12 |
| GM read article |
| Had to reload esignal, it took 40 mins to load the tick data with the volume we are doing | 15:13 |
<venedom> | what chart? | 15:14 |
<Brutus> | tick charts v for ES | 15:15 |
<venedom> | 55 89 100? |
| your conection must have problems it can not take 40 min |
<Brutus> | 6s candle |
| 1.5 MB ADSL | 15:16 |
| Its the esignal servers and tick data for all emini's |
<venedom> | do a speed test and ping the esignAl server | 15:17 |
<Brutus> | will do it AH's v | 15:18 |
<venedom> | :) | 15:19 |
<AusTrader00> | Bed time... see you all have a nice weekend.. | 15:22 |
<Brutus> | cu | 15:23 |
<GoodMood> | thx Brututs |
| Brutus |
<base> | AusTrader00: Good night and have a nice weekend. |
<Brutus> | yw GM | 15:25 |
<venedom> | back 4 close lets see | 15:27 |
| any one guess the dow close? |
| under or ovr 13400? |
<Awash> | what's the ES bid? | 15:33 |
<venedom> | dow | 15:34 |
<intowin> | 1482.25 I need it to break 1480.50 | 15:35 |
<venedom> | 1482.5 es |
<intowin> | there we go | 15:37 |
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<intowin> | Covered all ES Short @ 1477. --> + 8 | 15:41 |
<venedom> | n1 | 15:42 |
<intowin> | thanks |
<Brutus> | Black Monday threads are going to start :) | 15:45 |
<intowin> | I think I will end on that note.. c you guys monday... | 15:48 |
<venedom> | cxu guys monday mornig have a greatttttttttt wekend | 15:49 |
* sep34 | is now known as sep34_away | 16:07 |
<Brutus> | ============ U.S. MARKETS ACTION =========== | 16:13 |
| DJIA down 149.97 points to 13324.25 |
| NASDAQ down 27.57 points to 2571.77 |
| S&P 500 down 17.79 points to 1464.78 |
| 10-year T-note down 1/32 at 97 25/32 yield 4.796 |
| NYMEX Spot Crude up $2.07 at $77.02/bbl at close |
| Dollar/Euro down 0.0098 at 1.3641 |
| US STOCKS FALL ON CONTINUED CREDIT WORRIES |
| As downward momentum continues in the equity markets, investors began to set their sights on next week to get a clearer picture of just how far stocks have to fall. Stock markets had one of their worst days of the year yesterday on tightening credit conditions, weak U.S. housing data and poor results from home builders. |
| US 2Q GDP RISES 3.4%, SLIGHTLY ABOVE VIEWS | 16:14 |
| Gross domestic product rises at a 3.4% annual rate in April through June, resurging from its wintertime fizzle as the drag from the housing sector lessens, businesses builds inventories and exports grow. Inflation gauges are mixed. U.S. revises GDP growth down for 2004-2006. |
| US CONSUMER SENTIMENT RISES IN JULY |
| The Reuters/University of Michigan consumer sentiment index moves to 90.4 in July's final estimate, from 92.4 in the preliminary estimate and 85.3 in June. Economists had expected the index to hit 91.3. |
| Last 45 mins ER down 20 Points and Es down 25 | 16:15 |
| CUL8r |
<NihabaAshi> | Hi all...no trading today for me...had a ton of personal stuff to do. |
| Wow...nice drop in the last 30 mins. | 16:17 |
<Brutus> | Very sick market ... |
<doublejay> | bye, nice weekend | 16:23 |
<base> | See you traders | 16:30 |
* sep34_away | is now known as sep34 | 17:21 |
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* DisconnectedSession | Close: Fri Jul 27 18:48:49 2007 | 18:48 |
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