June 30th Friday 2006 Trade Log

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Boring trading day and I may return on the weekend to edit this and talk about the pitfalls for new traders that simulate trade for the wrong reasons and trade with real money too soon.

Great World Cup Soccer game between Germany and Argentina.

Germany won in an overtime shootout.

Today's results (real money and simulator trading) shown above are that of NihabaAshi only. To see his total accumulated points for the month of June...click here. To see results for the months of 2006 and prior years...click here.

Commentary by M.A. Perry (a.k.a. NihabaAshi)  
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Note: Each month there are a few trading days that we consider to involve interconnecting key price action of different markets and you can view the charts associated with the key price action along with their stories at our key chart story archives.

  

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Session Start: Fri Jun 30 09:28:02 2006Session Ident: #futurestrades
* Now talking in #futurestrades09:28
<X> [NihabaAshi] #FuturesTrades info @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/FuturesTradesChatRoom.htm and trade log archives @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/RecentTrades.htm
<PapaJon> gm all09:37
<szubaark> gm09:39
<eminitrader> morn pj szu09:46
<szubaark> gm emini09:47
<eminitrader>  Long ES @ 1283 09:48

Exited 1/2 ES Long @ 1284.50 --> + 1.5 09:50
<timing> vn emini09:51
<eminitrader> thx timing09:52

Exited Remainder ES Long @ 1283 --> 0 09:54

Shorts ES @ 1282.50 09:57
<szubaark>  Long YM @ 11269 09:58
<eminitrader>  Covered all ES Short @ 1281 --> + 1.5 10:02
<pdays>  Shorts ER2 @ 716.7 «« paper »» 10:05
Covered all ER2 Short @ 716.2 --> + 0.5 «« paper »» 10:07
<NihabaAshi> Key price action area here for the Eminis.10:21
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<NihabaAshi>  Long ER2 @ 717.70 -> small size 10:28

1 contract only.
<szubaark> Overnight low here10:29
<NihabaAshi> Keeping it small and light today because I've had a great month of trading and just want to close today with a profit...any kind of profit (small or large).

Also, Germany vs. Argentina at 11am est...I don't want to miss any of that World Cup Soccer game :)
<BearRun> i'm with ya on the game:-)10:30
  
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<NihabaAshi>  Long ER2 @ 717.50 -> Add 10:32

Position still small...now 2 contracts.
<aym> Short QM @ 74.825 risk 0.210:33
<BearRun> niha i have a question if it's appropriate at this time
<NihabaAshi> Go ahead.10:34
<BearRun> i've only read a few pages of your webpages

and will read more

but i didn't see if you have specific targets

do you have objective targets set?
<NihabaAshi> Yes...I do have specific targets...always and they are discussed at the site and EliteTrader.com10:35
WRB targets.
<BearRun> ok, thx i'll read that up then
<NihabaAshi> WRB = Wide Range Bodies
<BearRun> you also mentioned that your techniques involve no indicators

is volume included or not included?
<NihabaAshi> As soon as a WRB appears...I'm looking to cash something in or decide that I'll stay longer due to greed.10:36
<BearRun> i see
<NihabaAshi> Reason why if a WRB appears and its only a 3 tick profit...I take it.
Yet...if I'm up like +1 point and its not a WRB...you'lll still see me in the trade...10:37
I'm at a WRB right now on this trade at 718.40
<BearRun> so at this moment your trade is not a WRB trade?
<NihabaAshi> Yes...it is at a WRB and I'm trying to get greedy :)10:38
<BearRun> sorry answered my question

when you make the call you let us know if it's a wrb or not right?10:39
<NihabaAshi>  Exited 1/2 ER2 Long @ 719.10 --> + 1.6
It was a WRB at 718.40
<BearRun> nice
<NihabaAshi>  exit stop raised ER2 @ 717.80 10:40
May get lucky and catch something big on that remainder...
<BearRun> is there a specific limit number of scaling in?
<NihabaAshi> Hopefully it can convert from a day trade into a "position trade"...allowing me to keep it while I watch the soccer game.10:41
<BearRun> i see10:42

thx niha10:43

i'll read up more on your stuff
<NihabaAshi> I talk alot (show lots of chart examples) about WRB profit targets in the Trading Hammers (revisited) thread at ET @ http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread .php?s=&threadid=5288010:44
I talk about it elsewhere at ET under key words search like "NihabaAshi Exit Strategy", "NihabaAshi Profit Targets" et cetera over the years.10:45
http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/search.php ?s=10:46
<szubaark> i was impatient and went Long too soon.. giving this trade way too much wiggle room.
<BearRun> i copied the URLs thanks10:48
i'll read up on it
<NihabaAshi> szu...the turnaround in the Oil Index soon after 10am est is the reason why the Eminis are trying to counter-thrust back upwards.

As long as Oil keeps going back up...I have a chance at not seeing my trailing stop get hit.

Any slump in Oil Index again...my stop will be hit fast.10:49

It happened as I was typing :(10:50

Trailing Stop Hit ER2 @ 717.80 --> + 0.1

It's World Cup fever time...talk to all later :)
* NihabaAshi is now known as NihabaAshi_away10:51
<BearRun> wow

guy is fast
<szubaark> Niha u mention Oil a lot..i need to pay more attention to it
  
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* WannaBeBOS is now known as BOS-futbol11:37
<NihabaAshi_away>  #FuturesTrades Purpose -> No gurus here, no signal calling by a head trader and no intentions to educate. This room is being used as a realtime trade journal of trades (real money or simulator) and discussions to add additional info to your brokerage statements. Do not mimic (shadow) the trades by others without their consent as stated at http://www.thestrategylab.com/FuturesTra desChatRoom.htm11:49
<szubaark> Niha what are your stats for 4th of July week? we usually go up/down?12:05
<codehead> long YM 11242 <paper>12:18
<szubaark> YM should be breaking out of this consilidation here12:23
<codehead> yeah i wanted to take it long for real, but was no actual signal and i have too many stock alarms going off today--pretty busy
<szubaark> code what u find easier to trade, stocks or the beast (Indexes)?12:25
<codehead> well, i'm able to take heat much better on stocks, been doing it longer12:27

even when i "know" i'm on right futs, have to protect and bail when it goes against me temporarily12:29

doesn't matter if you know ER is at a bounce point if might go against you 5 points before it goes your way 1512:30
<szubaark> yup.. a lot of wiggle on eminis..especially YM12:31
u can see Support break by 5-15 Points and then bounce back, SO IT HELD? LOL drives you nutso
<codehead> ya
<szubaark> thats why u see me run my Stops to 20-40 Points on YM.. gotta give it room or they will Stop you out to the poor house12:32
i try to avoid it, but im sorry i just cant get perfect entries12:33
<codehead> that's what happened a few weeks ago, i was certain ER was a sure wash-out dive for a strong bounce, but wiped me out by going big, then it went my way 20 like a rocket--death by money management12:34

k, my friend's turn time--said likely up into the close form here

consolidation day so far
<szubaark> yeah i was expecting it.. just didnt time my Long right now i have to sit thru this crap12:35
<codehead> don't forget last trading day of the month12:37

Qm hod12:38

naz flatline12:40

at point of triangle
<NihabaAshi_away> [12:05] <szubaark> Niha what are your stats for 4th of July week? we usually go up/down?12:50
* NihabaAshi_away is now known as NihabaAshi
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<NihabaAshi> szu...I usually try to establish a position trade (hold it most of the trading day) on the day first trading day after July 4th.

It tends to produce a trend day...up or down.12:51
<szubaark> ER on its own again12:58
code.. i hope your friend was right12:59
[12:34] <codehead> k, my friend's turn time--said likely up into the close form here
<codehead> he had 719.50 the key level on ER, was right13:09

he said wait for break of 719.50, then buy the pb (when it returned to that price)13:10

and so far he was right on that
<BOS-futbol> end of first half13:12
of extra time i meant13:15
<szubaark>  exit stop set YM @ 11240 13:16

gotta leave for a while.. Stop in..Target? will find out when i get back13:17
* szubaark is now known as szubaark_away
<codehead> basically YM just bouncing between 11240 and 1125513:37

the buyers camped at one end and sellers at the other--won't move till more volume13:38
<NihabaAshi> Germany beats Argentina in overtime shootout.13:46
I get an hour break now before the Italy vs. Ukraine match :)
ER2 currently not in any recognizable price action...13:47
Gonna take a break.
* NihabaAshi is now known as NihabaAshi_away
  

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<codehead> exit half YM +23 <paper>14:07

stop at 11253 on remainder <paper>14:09
<pdays2>  Shorts ER2 @ 724.1 «« paper »» 14:16
<substanz>  Long YM @ 11262 «« paper »» 14:21
* NihabaAshi_away is now known as NihabaAshi14:33
<NihabaAshi>  Shorts YM @ 11265.00 -> small size 14:34

2 contracts only.

I'm looking to dump this position...something not right about this price action.14:41

Covered YM Short @ 11268.00 --> - 3 14:45

Reverse and Enter Long YM @ 11268.00

:(14:49
<substanz> i have a pivot at 11266
<NihabaAshi> I think everybody on Wall Street is starting to go home for the weekend while I'm still in a trade :(14:50

Poor timing on my part.
<substanz> yes bad volume14:51
<codehead> my friend earlier today predicted 12:30 eastern turn time, up into the close

remember, last day of the month

fwiw
<NihabaAshi> Yep...reallocation time for many of the big boys.
Maybe they did it early this morning.14:52
<substanz>  Exited all YM Long @ 11272 --> + 10 «« paper »»
<NihabaAshi> And the prior few trading days.
I'm at a WRB right now in this trade.
Exited all YM Long @ 11275.00 --> + 7 14:54
I'm done for the day...that Short position felt weird...will study the charts this weekend to see if I did something wrong.
Italy vs Ukraine in World Cup Soccer is about to start...14:55
Take care all and have a nice weekend.
* NihabaAshi is now known as NihabaAshi_away
<substanz>  Long YM @ 11270 «« paper »» 15:02
<codehead> raise stop to 11263 YM <paper>15:06

dang PC crashed, rebooting it
<substanz>  Exited all YM Long @ 11275 --> + 5 «« paper »» 15:11
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<codehead> bond close signal is bearish and strong15:19
short term signal--between mkt close and early next session
<substanz>  Long YM @ 11269 «« paper »» 15:22

Exited all YM Long @ 11261 --> - 8 «« paper »» 15:25
<codehead> stopped on rest of YM +20 <paper>15:26
<substanz>  Long YM @ 11242 «« paper »» 15:42

Exited all YM Long @ 11255 --> + 13 «« paper »» 15:47
<PapaJon> sheesh... er2 doin its dance
<codehead> yea 5 point boing15:49

guess people were exiting via stops15:50
<PapaJon> yah.. or eod margin closeouts15:57
bye all... everyone have a great long weekend... :)16:18
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* DisconnectedSession Close: Fri Jun 30 16:28:10 200616:28
  
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