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| Session Start: Thu Apr 24 09:30:33 2008Session Ident: #futurestrades |
| [09:30] * Now talking in #futurestrades |
| <@X> | [NihabaAshi] #FuturesTrades info @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/FuturesTradesChatRoom.htm and trade log archives @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/RecentTrades.htm | 09:30 |
| | [09:30] * X sets mode: +o NihabaAshi |
| <szubaark> | Shorts ES @ 1383 «« paper »» | 09:32 |
| | [09:32] * NihabaAshi sets mode: +v szubaark |
| <eminitrader> | stop @ b/e now |
| | [09:32] * NihabaAshi sets mode: +v eminitrader |
| <pat255> | em wud appreciate if u cud post the entries ...very helpful ..ty | 09:34 |
| | [09:34] * NihabaAshi sets mode: +v pat255 |
| <+pat255> | when u get the chance ...:) |
| <+Spartan> | Shorts ES @ 1383.75 -> small size «« paper »» | 09:35 |
| <+eminitrader> | stopped doing that pat |
| <+pat255> | ooops ...lol |
| <+eminitrader> | too many pm... | 09:36 |
| <+pat255> | igore them all.. | 09:37 |
| folks should not do that while trading .. |
| <+eminitrader> | teh wahts the piont in being in a chat room ?:) |
| | [09:37] <@NihabaAshi> Shorts ER2 @ 705.40 -> medium size |
| <+eminitrader> | dont mind chatting in the open forum |
| <+Spartan> | Covered all ES Short @ 1381.75 --> + 2 «« paper »» | 09:38 |
| <+eminitrader> | true...thats what puts u off...bombarding while in a trade |
| and i dont want to be rude ..by not responding | 09:39 |
| <stoch08> | <eminitrader> and i dont want to be rude ..by not responding ->u r a nice person em :) | 09:40 |
| | [09:40] * NihabaAshi sets mode: +v stoch08 |
| <+eminitrader> | lol..thx s |
| hld 2 now |
| <+szubaark> | Covered all Short ES at 1380 --> + 3 «« paper »» |
| <+eminitrader> | nice szu | 09:41 |
| <+Spartan> | nice szu |
| <+szubaark> | thanks, u had better entry@1385 :) |
| | [09:41] <@NihabaAshi> Covered 3/4 ER2 Short @ 704.30 --> + 1.1 |
| <+eminitrader> | like i said szu..still feel 1383 on the SP is strong res | 09:42 |
| <+pat255> | may be N cud tell traders not to pm during trading.. |
| <+eminitrader> | and am still expecting test of 1364 |
| <+Spartan> | Shorts ES @ 1380 -> small size «« paper »» |
| Covered all ES Short @ 1380 --> 0 «« paper »» | 09:43 |
| <+eminitrader> | minor support 75-78...bounce area.. | 09:44 |
| <+Spartan> | Long ES @ 1380.25 -> small size «« paper »» |
| <PapaJon> | anyone have a clue to the cause of the gap between 9:08est and 9:10est?... news? |
| | [09:44] * NihabaAshi sets mode: +v PapaJon |
| <werner> | gm all | 09:45 |
| | [09:45] * NihabaAshi sets mode: +v werner |
| <+eminitrader> | no news pj...just think too much noise.. |
| | [09:45] <@NihabaAshi> Covered Remainder ER2 Short @ 704.90 --> + 0.5 |
| <+stoch08> | econ # papa |
| <+PapaJon> | hmmff.. was a 10 tick jump on er2 |
| <+eminitrader> | that was at 8:30 |
| <+PapaJon> | yup.. | 09:46 |
| <+Spartan> | Exited all ES Long @ 1380.5 --> + 0.25 «« paper »» | 09:47 |
| Shorts ES @ 1379.50 «« paper »» | 09:48 |
| <+eminitrader> | looks like its getting ready for a bounce |
| <+Spartan> | great glad I shorted |
| <+eminitrader> | wonder how big ?? |
| <anglo> | . |
| | [09:48] * NihabaAshi sets mode: +v anglo |
| <+eminitrader> | S ..u never know...i am known to be wrong |
| <+Spartan> | right much more than me | 09:49 |
| <+eminitrader> | am short too...just that u know :)) |
| <+Spartan> | Covered all ES Short @ 1378 --> + 1.5 «« paper »» |
| <+eminitrader> | right at the top of my supp area .. |
| <Andy> | Long ES @ 1377.75 «« paper »» | 09:50 |
| | [09:50] * NihabaAshi sets mode: +v Andy |
| [09:50] <@NihabaAshi> Shorts ER2 @ 702.30 -> medium size |
| <+eminitrader> | [09:44] <eminitrader> minor support 75-78...bounce area. |
| | [09:50] <@NihabaAshi> geeesh...that move fast...was thinking about getting short @ 703.00 and then it dropped :( |
| <+eminitrader> | hld 1 | 09:51 |
| <+PapaJon> | er2 testing below yest value area |
| <+Spartan> | Long ES @ 1377.75 -> small size «« paper »» |
| <+PapaJon> | likely hesitation or bounce |
| | [09:52] <@NihabaAshi> Yeah...its alos within one of my s/r zones |
| <+eminitrader> | pa says bounce ...prolly 80-82 area | 09:52 |
| <+PapaJon> | yep.. they usually coincide |
| <+eminitrader> | lowered stop 1383 | 09:53 |
| <+Andy> | Exited 1/2 ES Long @ 1378.75 --> + 1 «« paper »» | 09:54 |
| | [09:54] <@NihabaAshi> Covered ER2 Short @ 702.90 --> - 0.6 |
| <+Spartan> | Exited all ES Long @ 1379.25 --> + 1.5 «« paper »» |
| <+szubaark> | nice trades Spartan |
| <+eminitrader> | yep |
| <+Spartan> | thanks, its my early session luck |
| <lumenPharmer> | wtg | 09:55 |
| | [09:55] * NihabaAshi sets mode: +v lumenPharmer |
| <+Andy> | Exited 1/4 ES Long @ 1379.25 --> + 1.5 «« paper »» |
| <jsbach> | nice |
| | [09:55] * NihabaAshi sets mode: +v jsbach |
| <+jsbach> | that was a true scalp |
| <+PapaJon> | heya lumenPharmer.. just curious.. are you into solar energy? |
| <+Spartan> | ty |
| <+Andy> | thanks js | 09:56 |
| <+lumenPharmer> | light farmer where ever the light may be :) |
| <+PapaJon> | or hydro? |
| <+lumenPharmer> | lol soil |
| <+PapaJon> | gotcha.. |
| <+lumenPharmer> | the light can be in people also :) | 09:57 |
| <+eminitrader> | that was a fast reversal...nice S |
| <+PapaJon> | yes.. is true |
| | [09:58] <@NihabaAshi> weak support area for ER2 |
| <+lumenPharmer> | now papa can u send me a pizza, lol | 09:59 |
| | [09:59] <@NihabaAshi> Long ER2 @ 703.00 -> medium size |
| <+Andy> | Exited Remainder ES Long @ 1380 --> + 2.25 «« paper »» |
| <+PapaJon> | lol.. i been in this room bout 3 years... |
| how many times u think people have ordered pizza? |
| <+eminitrader> | heheheh |
| <+lumenPharmer> | hehehe | 10:00 |
| <+PapaJon> | :) |
| maybe i should change professions |
| | [10:00] <@NihabaAshi> Bronco Ride |
| <+eminitrader> | wow...u guys see that |
| <+szubaark> | yeah crazy |
| <+pat255> | y what the hell was that |
| | [10:00] <@NihabaAshi> Exited ER2 Long @ 702.00 --> - 1 |
| <+stoch08> | homesales down |
| <+eminitrader> | screen freezing |
| | [10:01] <@NihabaAshi> Shorts ER2 @ 701.00 -> medium size |
| <+lumenPharmer> | ts down | 10:01 |
| <+szubaark> | Shorts ES @ 1375 «« paper »» |
| <+jsbach> | glad I didn't get weak |
| <+werner> | not here lp |
| <+PapaJon> | sheesh |
| | [10:01] <@NihabaAshi> Throw your order out there and see if it gets filled :) |
| <+szubaark> | yup |
| <+Andy> | a great trader once told me he always stood aside two minutes into an announcement and three minutes after... |
| <+lumenPharmer> | matrix ok but graphs no so good | 10:02 |
| <+szubaark> | geez i forgot about the 10am news |
| <+pat255> | good point andy |
| <pdays> | Lumen..same thing on TS here |
| | [10:02] * NihabaAshi sets mode: +v pdays |
| [10:03] <@NihabaAshi> I've learned not to ignore volatility and to stay aside if I didn't understand it. |
| [10:04] <@NihabaAshi> We get these crazy spikes sometimes even without news... |
| <+lumenPharmer> | i think we are ok now in ts | 10:04 |
| | [10:04] <@NihabaAshi> We just gotta learn how to manage them when these volatility spikes occur. |
| [10:04] <@NihabaAshi> If not...nothing wrong with staying on the sidelines. |
| <+szubaark> | at least we getting followthru on the Volatility so far |
| | [10:04] <@NihabaAshi> I do it often (stay on the sidelines) and miss at least one big move each trading day. |
| <+pat255> | missed S today ..sigh | 10:06 |
| | [10:06] <@NihabaAshi> volatility declining :( |
| <+szubaark> | there has to be a lot of Stops under the lower Wick of the Dark Hammer Line Yersturday |
| | [10:07] <@NihabaAshi> Hopefully it goes into a creeper move downwards before it decides to do the next volatility spike |
| [10:07] <@NihabaAshi> tighning up my trailing stop because this thing is going to pop but I don't know which direction |
| <+szubaark> | bouncing off the low of the Dark Hammer Line | 10:08 |
| | [10:08] <@NihabaAshi> volatility declining a little more |
| [10:09] <@NihabaAshi> Volatility Spike |
| <+szubaark> | Covered all Short ES at 1372.75 --> + 2.25 «« paper »» | 10:09 |
| | [10:09] <@NihabaAshi> Covered 3/4 ER2 Short @ 698.40 --> + 2.6 |
| <+szubaark> | Volatility spike caused by Stops below the Dark Hammer Line |
| <+Spartan> | nice trades |
| <+lumenPharmer> | looks like we are stuck in that 680-720 on ER, did it all february, now doing it all april ;( | 10:10 |
| <+szubaark> | Nice Volatility so far, wonder how long it will Last..... | 10:11 |
| <+Spartan> | Shorts ES @ 1375 «« paper »» | 10:12 |
| | [10:12] <@NihabaAshi> Covered ER2 Short @ 699.70 --> + 1.3 |
| [10:12] <@NihabaAshi> Reverse and Enter Long ER2 @ 699.70 |
| <+Spartan> | Covered all ES Short @ 1375.75 --> - 0.75 «« paper »» | 10:13 |
| | [10:13] <@NihabaAshi> Exited ER2 Long @ 700.20 --> + 0.5 |
| <+Spartan> | Shorts ES @ 1375 «« paper »» | 10:14 |
| | [10:14] <@NihabaAshi> Exited too soon considering there's a strong support :( |
| <+Spartan> | Covered all ES Short @ 1376.25 --> - 1.25 «« paper »» | 10:15 |
| gees |
| | [10:16] <@NihabaAshi> volatility contracting |
| <+Andy> | I
know this is cynical thinking, but how surprising is a mild/moderately
bad housing report? It seems way overdone to the downside. | 10:17 |
| | [10:17] <@NihabaAshi> This thing has a chance to spike upwards...with my watching the train go by :( |
| <+PapaJon> | Andy.. the news and econ reports has only a fraction of impact on the shortterm intraday action | 10:19 |
| <+szubaark> | Shorts ES @ 1376.75 «« paper »» |
| <+PapaJon> | true
that certain key numbers will cause volatility spikes.. but he realy
moves are more impacted by all the traders (big and small) | 10:20 |
| <+Spartan> | Shorts ES @ 1376 «« paper »» |
| <+PapaJon> | big traders impacting (manipulating), small traders reacting | 10:21 |
| <+Andy> | I'm all ears PJ, for any observations you have...thanks | 10:22 |
| <+PapaJon> | np.. but i am not the expert here.. |
| just been in this room quite some time | 10:23 |
| <+szubaark> | Covered all Short ES at 1374 --> + 2.75 «« paper »» | 10:24 |
| <+Spartan> | Covered all ES Short @ 1374.50 --> + 1.5 «« paper »» |
| annoying |
| | [10:27] <@NihabaAshi> weak support area ER2 |
| <+Andy> | Long ES @ 1373.5 «« paper »» | 10:27 |
| | [10:29] <@NihabaAshi> Long ER2 @ 701.70 -> small size |
| <+Andy> | Exited 1/2 ES Long @ 1375 --> + 1.5 «« paper »» | 10:29 |
| <+szubaark> | Buys ES @ 1375.25 «« paper »» | 10:30 |
| | [10:30] <@NihabaAshi> weak resistance area 702.30 |
| [10:31] <@NihabaAshi> I saw it too late :( |
| <+Andy> | Exited Remainder ES Long @ 1373.5 --> 0 «« paper »» | 10:31 |
| | [10:32] <@NihabaAshi> May get second chance to exit around 702.30 |
| [10:32] <@NihabaAshi> Exited 2/3 ER2 Long @ 702.30 --> + 0.6 |
| <+Andy> | Long ES @ 1373.25 «« paper »» | 10:33 |
| | [10:33] <@NihabaAshi> Exited Remainder ER2 Long @ 701.80 --> + 0.1 |
| [10:34] <@NihabaAshi> I just heard something interesting... |
| [10:35] <@NihabaAshi> Fund Managers are trading Crude Oil like a currency instead of via fundamental reasons |
| <+Andy> | Exited all ES Long @ 1372.25 --> - 1 «« paper »» | 10:35 |
| | [10:36]
<@NihabaAshi> I have a neighbor (few houses down) that saids his
gas expenses each month almost equals his mortgage payment. |
| [10:36] <@NihabaAshi> Scary |
| <+stoch08> | wow.. | 10:37 |
| | [10:38] <@NihabaAshi> I also saw a news channel interviewing someone in Atlanta at a gas pump that said the same thing. |
| [10:38] <@NihabaAshi> Time for these folks to get a Moped or carpool :) |
| [10:38] <@NihabaAshi> Get a double seater for the spouse :) |
| <+pat255> | y N we are spoiled & especially in US.. | 10:38 |
| | [10:40] <@NihabaAshi> ER2 creeping higher on contracting volatility |
| [10:40] <@NihabaAshi> Something is going to pop soon. |
| <+Andy> | ER the strongest index today | 10:41 |
| | [10:42] <@NihabaAshi> Yeah...lets see if the others try to catch up with ER2 |
| <@X> | #FuturesTrades Info ->
No gurus, no head traders. Members use this room to document (trade
journal) their trades and thoughts from one trade to the next trade
because it provides critical information they can't get from broker
statements nor statistics. Also, mimicking the trades by others is not
recommended without their permission. More info at
www.thestrategylab.com/FuturesTradesChat Room.htm | 10:45 |
| | [10:45] <@NihabaAshi> 703.00 weak resistance area |
| [10:45] <@NihabaAshi> Thus, a breakout point |
| <+Andy> | 75 in es |
| | [10:46] <@NihabaAshi> Shorts ER2 @ 703.40 -> small size |
| [10:46] <@NihabaAshi> correcting |
| [10:46] <@NihabaAshi> Shorts ER2 @ 702.40 -> small size |
| [10:47] <@NihabaAshi> Will consider reversing my position into a Long around 703.00 |
| [10:48] <@NihabaAshi> Pin Ball Machine price action :( |
| <+pdays> | Shorts ER2 @ 702.6 | 10:49 |
| Covered all ER2 Short @ 702.2 --> + 0.4 |
| | [10:51] <@NihabaAshi> WRB pt1 reached and it was too fast to exit at :( |
| <+pat255> | N cud u pl request traders not to PM during trading hours ...s folks like em dont get haseld ..ty | 10:51 |
| just a thot .. |
| em is a very good trader on es.. | 10:52 |
| | [10:52] <@NihabaAshi> You can turn that feature off or other things |
| <+pat255> | k .. |
| | [10:52] <@NihabaAshi> Covered ER2 Short @ 703.00 --> - 0.6 |
| [10:52] <@NihabaAshi> Reverse and Enter Long ER2 @ 703.00 |
| <+szubaark> | market finding Support here | 10:53 |
| | [10:54] <@NihabaAshi> Pin Ball Machine price action again |
| [10:57] <@NihabaAshi> Exited ER2 Long @ 703.20 --> + 0.2 |
| [10:58] <@NihabaAshi> Too many key markets trying to contract in their volatility |
| <+pat255> | futs catching up with er now | 10:59 |
| | [10:59] <@NihabaAshi> Long ER2 @ 703.20 -> small size |
| [11:00] <@NihabaAshi> something is going to pop (volatility spike) here soon |
| [11:01] <@NihabaAshi> Hopefully upwards and not down |
| [11:06] <@NihabaAshi> Exited ER2 Long @ 703.60 --> + 0.4 |
| <+szubaark> | just creeping upwards | 11:06 |
| | [11:06] <@NihabaAshi> :( |
| <+szubaark> | hopefully i can get small Volatility spike around Resistance area to exit my Long |
| Exited all Long ES at 1377 --> + 1.75 «« paper »» | 11:08 |
| <+Andy> | Shorts ES @ 1378.5 «« paper »» | 11:17 |
| Long ES @ 1379 -> Add «« paper »» | 11:20 |
| error | 11:21 |
| with the add -> |
| Shorts ES @ 1378.75 -> large size «« paper »» | 11:22 |
| Covered 1/2 ES Short @ 1377.75 --> + 1.25 «« paper »» |
| that should be 1, not 1.25 | 11:23 |
| Covered Remainder ES Short @ 1379.25 --> - 0.5 «« paper »» | 11:25 |
| | [11:30] <@NihabaAshi> Long ER2 @ 707.20 -> small size |
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| <+PapaJon> | interesting day | 11:34 |
| | [11:35] <@NihabaAshi> Exited ER2 Long @ 710.40 --> + 3.2 |
| [11:35] <@NihabaAshi> Geeesh |
| <+PapaJon> | nice niha | 11:35 |
| | [11:35] <@NihabaAshi> Just think...I almost exited at a +0.40 profit |
| <+PapaJon> | i been away for a bit... missed all this | 11:36 |
| | [11:36] <@NihabaAshi> It was at a WRB pt1 @ +0.40 profit |
| [11:36] <@NihabaAshi> Decided to get greedy and let it ride a little with a tight stop |
| <+szubaark> | Back to the upper line of the channel... | 11:37 |
| | [11:38] <@NihabaAshi> Since 1010am est my trades (6 of them) have had 5 on the Long side. |
| [11:39] <@NihabaAshi> That tells me I wasn't fighting that creeper uptrend until it found its legs around 1118am est |
| <+szubaark> | Nice Trades Niha. | 11:45 |
| | [11:46] <@NihabaAshi> Just missed getting an entry in the last shallow pullback at 711.00 :( |
| [11:49] * codehead_afk is now known as codehead |
| <+PapaJon> | er2 just filled its hidden gap from 4/21 | 11:50 |
| at 714 |
| | [11:50] <@NihabaAshi> Geesh |
| <Brutus-L1> | EUR/USD Euro 1.5666-69 -1.36% | 11:58 |
| | [11:58] * NihabaAshi sets mode: +v Brutus-L1 |
| <+Andy> | the dollar rally kills the commodity rally feeds the equity rally | 11:59 |
| | [12:00] <@NihabaAshi> On the daily chart this price movement doesn't look too impressive |
| [12:01] <@NihabaAshi> Shorts ER2 @ 713.00 -> small size |
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