#FuturesTrades December 18th Thursday 2008 Trade Log

Trade Posting Chat Log Info: My name is M.A. Perry (a.k.a. online as NihabaAshi - martial arts & Japanese Candlestick term) and I am the moderator of #FuturesTrades.

Simply, my job is to keep the peace and ensure #FuturesTrades is a useful community of traders from around the world that have gather in a virtual trading office.

In addition, I personally use the below chat log as feedback for critical trading information that's not available when I review my broker statements nor any statistical analysis of my trading.  To maintain the usefulness of the below chat log, all of my trades were posted in real-time within 5 seconds after entry or exit unless otherwise noted in the log. 

Further, although I'm not familiar with the trade methods used by most members of #FuturesTrades, I use a rule based methodology (very objective) that involves price action only trading (no indicators). However, some of my trades are intuition via market experience in combo with many concepts from my rule based methodology.

  My own current performance record and broker profit/loss statement is posted at the bottom of today's log.

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	Session Start: Thu Dec 18 00:00:00 2008 Session Ident: #futurestrades [00:35] <@X> 1,4 #FuturesTrades Info -> 1,0 Some members (including me) explain basic details about their trades posted in #FuturesTrades @ http://thestrategylab.com/forum/index.php?board=58.0 and there's a link there to take you to #FuturesTrades archived logs if you're interested in reviewing past trades or market commentary posted in #FuturesTrades. [03:26] * Tintin : hi all [03:47] * codehead is now known as codehead_afk [04:02] * +Tintin 4,5----[0,5 shorts 0,5 eur 15,5@0,5 1.4426 4,5]---- [04:02] * +Tintin 4,5----[0,5 shorts 0,5 gc 15,5@0,5 868.7 4,5]---- [04:04] * +Tintin 12,2----[0,2 covers 0,2 eur 15,2@0,2 1.4416 +0.10 12,2]---- [04:08] * +Tintin 4,5----[0,5 shorts 0,5 eur 15,5@0,5 1.4425 4,5]---- [04:14] * +Tintin 12,2----[0,2 covers 0,2 eur 15,2@0,2 1.4420 +0.0005 12,2]---- [04:14] * +Tintin 4,5----[0,5 shorts 0,5 estx 15,5@0,5 2456 4,5]---- [04:22] * +Tintin 4,5----[0,5 shorts 0,5 eur 15,5@0,5 1.4415 4,5]---- [04:44] <@X> 1,4 #FuturesTrades Info -> 1,0 Some members (including me) explain basic details about their trades posted in #FuturesTrades @ http://thestrategylab.com/forum/index.php?board=58.0 and there's a link there to take you to #FuturesTrades archived logs if you're interested in reviewing past trades or market commentary posted in #FuturesTrades. [04:53] * +Tintin 4,5----[0,5 shorts 0,5 gc 15,5@0,5 875.7 loaded 4,5]---- [04:54] * +Tintin 4,5----[0,5 shorts 0,5 eur 15,5@0,5 1.4574 loaded 4,5]---- [04:58] * +Tintin 12,2----[0,2 covers 0,2 estx 15,2@0,2 2448 + 8 12,2]---- [05:15] * +Tintin 12,2----[0,2 covers 0,2 eur 15,2@0,2 1.4564 +0.0010 all out 12,2]---- [05:20] * +Tintin 12,2----[0,2 covers 0,2 gc 15,2@0,2 874.7 +1 all out 12,2]---- [06:50] <@X> 1,4 #FuturesTrades Info -> 1,0 Some members (including me) explain basic details about their trades posted in #FuturesTrades @ http://thestrategylab.com/forum/index.php?board=58.0 and there's a link there to take you to #FuturesTrades archived logs if you're interested in reviewing past trades or market commentary posted in #FuturesTrades. [07:33] * +Tintin 4,5----[0,5 shorts 0,5 gc 15,5@0,5 875.3 4,5]---- [08:02] * +Tintin 12,2----[0,2 covers 0,2 gc 15,2@0,2 874.3 +1 12,2]---- [08:22] <rickf> gm [08:42] * +Tintin 4,5----[0,5 shorts 0,5 eur 15,5@0,5 1.4596 4,5]---- [08:48] * +Tintin 4,5----[0,5 shorts 0,5 gc 15,5@0,5 870.8 4,5]---- [08:49] * +Tintin 12,2----[0,2 covers 0,2 eur 15,2@0,2 1.4586 +0.0010 12,2]---- [08:50] * +Tintin 12,2----[0,2 covers 0,2 gc 15,2@0,2 869.8 +1 12,2]---- [08:52] * +Tintin 9,3----[0,3 buys 0,3 eur 15,3@0,3 1.4567 9,3]---- [08:54] * +Tintin 12,2----[0,2 covers 0,2 eur 15,2@0,2 1.4577 +0.0010 12,2]---- [08:55] * +Tintin 9,3----[0,3 buys 0,3 gc 15,3@0,3 867.7 9,3]---- [08:55] * +Tintin 12,2----[0,2 covers 0,2 gc 15,2@0,2 868.7 +1 12,2]---- [08:56] <@X> 1,4 #FuturesTrades Info -> 1,0 Some members (including me) explain basic details about their trades posted in #FuturesTrades @ http://thestrategylab.com/forum/index.php?board=58.0 and there's a link there to take you to #FuturesTrades archived logs if you're interested in reviewing past trades or market commentary posted in #FuturesTrades. [09:05] * +Tintin 9,3----[0,3 buys 0,3 eur 15,3@0,3 1.4468 9,3]---- [09:07] * +Tintin 12,2----[0,2 covers 0,2 eur 15,2@0,2 1.4478 +0.0010 12,2]---- [09:07] * +Tintin 4,5----[0,5 shorts 0,5 gc 15,5@0,5 863.0 4,5]---- [09:08] * +Tintin 12,2----[0,2 covers 0,2 gc 15,2@0,2 860.5 +2.5 12,2]---- [09:09] <Bambam-77> 907.5 will trigger a ss conf for me else long [09:09] * +Tintin 4,5----[0,5 shorts 0,5 eur 15,5@0,5 1.4503 4,5]---- [09:11] * +Tintin 12,2----[0,2 covers 0,2 eur 15,2@0,2 1.4493 +0.0010 12,2]---- [09:13] * +Tintin 4,5----[0,5 shorts 0,5 zn 15,5@0,5 128 34/64 4,5]---- [09:14] <+rickf> ss = strong short, short, or shortstop? [09:15] * +Tintin 4,5----[0,5 shorts 0,5 gc 15,5@0,5 863.5 4,5]---- [09:16] * +Tintin 9,3----[0,3 buys 0,3 estx 15,3@0,3 2453 9,3]---- [09:16] * +Tintin 12,2----[0,2 covers 0,2 gc 15,2@0,2 862.5 +1 12,2]---- [09:18] * NihabaAshi_away is now known as NihabaAshi [09:20] <@NihabaAshi> FYI - I'll be trading today just the a.m trading session only and will be busy doing website work the p.m. trading session along with resting to catch up on some needed rest after a week of taking care of sick family members. [09:21] <pat255> gm all n ... [09:22] <+pat255> k ..hope your kids is ok .. [09:24] <LumenPharmer> gm all [09:24] * +Tintin 12,2----[0,2 covers 0,2 zn 15,2@0,2 128 24/64 +10/64 12,2]---- [09:25] <@NihabaAshi> Yeah...everybody is just tired. Toddler back at day care, 6 year old back at school and spouse going to a spa with some of her girfriends. [09:25] <@NihabaAshi> I found out something interesting... [09:26] <kos> gm [09:26] <+rickf> good to hear niha [09:27] <@NihabaAshi> I was able to exploit a little rule and get a at home doctor visit on the last day of illness (free). [09:27] <@NihabaAshi> Didn't know such existed here. [09:27] <+rickf> nice to be in canada, eh? [09:28] <PapaJon> gm all [09:29] <@NihabaAshi> Yep [09:29] <drt> gm all [09:30] <Nesi> 0,3 Long ES @ 908.00 4,0 «« Scalp »»  [09:32] <werner> gm all [09:33] <+rickf> hi werner [09:33] <+werner> hi [09:33] <+rickf> niha - any eta on the new registrations? [09:33] <+rickf> er when we will have to re-register? [09:37] <@NihabaAshi> Not yet but you'll know soon...completely dependent upon when I get my energy level back and when I catch up on other website work that's much more important than #FuturesTrades [09:37] <+rickf> gotcha [09:41] <@NihabaAshi> 0,4 Shorts ES @ 906.50 -> small size  [09:42] <@NihabaAshi> 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 907.75 --> - 1.25  [09:43] <@NihabaAshi> 0,4 Shorts ES @ 906.00 -> small size  [09:43] <@NihabaAshi> 3 only [09:43] <jbuch> gm all [09:46] <@NihabaAshi> 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 905.75 --> + 0.25  [09:47] <@NihabaAshi> 0,4 Shorts ES @ 903.75 -> small size  [09:47] <@NihabaAshi> 3 only [09:47] <ItalianSharp> morning all [09:47] * +Tintin 12,2----[0,2 covers 0,2 estx 15,2@0,2 2446 -8 12,2]---- [09:49] <+silo> weird better unemployment data... but market going down [09:49] <@NihabaAshi> 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 902.50 --> + 1.25  [09:49] <+jbuch> I'm confused [09:50] <+rickf> wasnt better by much i dont think, was it? [09:50] <+jbuch> like 20,000 not much but [09:50] <+rickf> think fedex guided lower too [09:51] <+pat255> biased L ...oh well [09:51] <szubaark-away> 0,4 Shorts ES @ 901 4,0 «« paper »»  [09:51] <@NihabaAshi> [09:51] <+pat255> looks trap for L [09:52] <+silo> szu you shorting bottom? [09:52] <+silo> [09:52] <+silo> it's time to test your manhood [09:52] <+szubaark-away> 0,2 Covered all Short ES at 900 --> + 1 4,0 «« paper »»  [09:53] <+szubaark-away> im changing few things, due to the declining Vix [09:53] <+pat255> OIl may see 35's today..oh my [09:53] <+szubaark-away> basicly, you gonna see me more of a "scalper" now [09:55] <+jbuch> why not trade 2 or three contracts and scalp portion and let the other portion run [09:55] <@NihabaAshi> That works depending upon the platform being used. [09:55] <+szubaark-away> i have Discipline problems when trading 2 contracts plus i need to be more consistant with 1 [09:56] <@NihabaAshi> Regardless...gotta have fast reaction skills to "change" your number of contracts on the exit in comparison to the number of contracts on the entry... [09:56] <@NihabaAshi> Espeically when trying to SCALP. [09:57] <+pat255> y szu i stick with 1 until i make consistent profits .. [09:57] <+rickf> short es 900 [09:57] <+jbuch> I use a bracket order with multliple exits [09:58] <@NihabaAshi> You can use bracket orders but that gets back to the platform capabilitiers. [09:58] <+rickf> out 898.75 +1,25 [09:58] <+rickf> bad entry - near LOD [09:59] <+rickf> didn't see the line [09:59] <@NihabaAshi> However, bracket orders or any type of auto orders implies you'll be ignoring what's actually occurring in the price action and letting "fix numbers" determine your exits. [09:59] <@NihabaAshi> That makes it difficult to catch big winners if that's the goal for the scale out. [09:59] <+rickf> niha - very true .... i end up cancelling all the orders and running stops manually on runners [10:00] <+rickf> lot of panic clicking to make sure i stay in the trade [10:00] <@NihabaAshi> Yeah...I was about to get to that part... [10:00] <+szubaark-away> with declining Vix runners are thing of the past [10:00] <@NihabaAshi> Manually managing the remainder contracts after auto exiting the first set of contracts. [10:00] <+pat255> & keep wide stop so u can manage it ...dang 2 pt sto eaisly taken [10:00] <@NihabaAshi> This is something I learned fast with Infinity AT program. [10:01] <+jbuch> I tend to try to move brackets to targets but it is frantic [10:01] <@NihabaAshi> The auto trade management is a pain in the butt. [10:01] <@NihabaAshi> Gotta have fighter jet reaction skills. [10:01] <+rickf> for me - i use a 2.25pt target ... if i get 1.75 in my favor i will nix the bracket, put a stop at b/e, and then drag it up the dom to maintain a 2 point stop if i can. worst case i get out at b/e +1 tick but i don't give up a runner [10:01] <+rickf> there are always exceptions - some markets you want to be hit-and-out [10:02] <@NihabaAshi> Often I was taken out of a trade via the auto when I would have never done such via manually. [10:02] <+rickf> all depends on the price action [10:02] <+PapaJon> i found that nt's dom with multi targets/stops works quite easily and is very simple to adjust targets, etc while in a trade [10:02] <@NihabaAshi> PapaJon...for day trading or for SCALPING ??? [10:02] <@NihabaAshi> Normal day trading is not an issue. [10:02] <+PapaJon> either or.. doesnt mater [10:03] <@NihabaAshi> It's the scalping...as in holding trades for seconds (no more than a minute or so). [10:03] <+silo> OEC has the best function when it comes to this [10:03] <+silo> just try their demo [10:03] <+rickf> yep [10:04] <+rickf> agree silo [10:04] <@NihabaAshi> silo...how's scalping on brackets in OEC with real money ??? [10:04] <+silo> i do bracket orders all the time [10:04] <@NihabaAshi> Scalping ? [10:04] <+silo> each trade i go in with... i already have auto stops set in [10:04] <+rickf> same here - no problems [10:05] <+silo> what's the difference. it's just how fast you get out compare to regular trades [10:05] <+PapaJon> yah.. is same with NT [10:05] <+silo> i see no difference [10:05] <@NihabaAshi> I didn't know you guys were scalping. [10:05] <+rickf> oh no not scalping [10:05] <+silo> it grabs real nice price since all i do is market orders most of the time [10:05] <@NihabaAshi> I only know 2 scalpers in #FuturesTrades. [10:05] <+rickf> i tend to always use brackets [10:05] <@NihabaAshi> Both aren't here today. [10:05] <+rickf> guess it depends what you define as 'scalping' [10:06] <+silo> all i'm saying is.... oec's platform is very nicely setup.... i can have all the functions in one little dom... i dont have to check my pnl from another window.... i dont have to adjust things from another box [10:06] <+rickf> to me, scalp = going for ticks, or a quick impulse play to catch a momentum [10:06] <@NihabaAshi> Here's my definition of scalping (not fast trades)... [10:06] <+silo> everything in one tiny dom [10:06] <+silo> breakeven stop, buy/sell stop [10:06] <+silo> cancel order [10:06] <+silo> reverse [10:06] <+silo> scale in scale out [10:06] <@NihabaAshi> Special low commission rates due to high volume trading [10:06] <@NihabaAshi> Most likely trading 50 - 250 roundtrips per day [10:07] <@NihabaAshi> Average trade hold no more than 15 seconds. [10:07] <+rickf> yeah - tick trading [10:07] <+PapaJon> Thats a full time scalper [10:07] <+rickf> that's not me [10:07] <@NihabaAshi> Trading via tick charts or charts less than 1min intervals [10:07] <+silo> you can try OEC yourself. i tried xtrader and oec, i went with oec becasue of its interface [10:07] <+rickf> hey i use tick charts [10:07] <+silo> its interface really just simplified a lot of things for you [10:07] <+silo> everything is very convenient [10:07] <@NihabaAshi> Anybody using charts 1min or higher and calling themselves a scalper... [10:07] <+silo> rest is up to you to decide [10:08] <+rickf> long es 904.25 [10:08] <@NihabaAshi> They aren't scalpers...they are just taking fast trades. [10:10] <+rickf> out 905.50 +1,25 [10:11] <@NihabaAshi> I would (plan on it soon) to try true scalping...special rates, a hundred trades, holding trades no more than 15 seconds via auto bracket orders... [10:11] <@NihabaAshi> Outside that...will stick to just taking fast trades when merited with the goal of trying to catch a big winner here and there. [10:11] <+rickf> problem is you have to move a ton of contracts to be profitable at scalping, right? [10:12] <+rickf> i mean 4-6 contracts for 2 ticks ain't much [10:12] <@NihabaAshi> Special commission rates is a big issue for scalpers. [10:12] <+rickf> agree [10:12] <@NihabaAshi> The two scalpers I know are gettign special rates like $1.05 or something like that [10:13] <+rickf> lol - are they CME members? [10:13] <+pat255> wow [10:13] <@NihabaAshi> One is. [10:13] * szubaark-away is now known as szubaark [10:13] <+rickf> OEC isn't too bad - $2.40 r/t [10:13] <@NihabaAshi> One guys does about 250 roundtrips on a normal volatility day. [10:14] <+rickf> WOW [10:14] <@NihabaAshi> High volatility day he's around 400 roundtrips [10:14] <@NihabaAshi> 20 trades for me is exhausting [10:15] <@NihabaAshi> Reason why I don't think I can every be a scalper by defninition in comparison to the true scalpers I know. [10:15] <+rickf> my best days were with no more than 6-8 trades [10:16] <+szubaark> having daily trading $$ Goal helps unless one is greedy or just needs to trade ALL DAY [10:16] <+silo> 0,4 Shorts YM @ 8812 4,0 «« paper »»  [10:17] <+rickf> i sort of have a $ goal per day -- but some days if you finish $50 in the green, I'm happy [10:17] <+rickf> if i dont make that goal, or half of it, i took what the market offered [10:18] <+rickf> chasing that goal = bad [10:18] <+rickf> what matters is how i trade [10:18] <+jbuch> I agree take what the market offers and try to trade well [10:19] <silo[zZ]> 0,2 Covered all YM Short @ 8790 --> + 22 4,0 «« paper »»  [10:20] <+rickf> i'd rather go to sleep slightly-green than severely-angry at myself for being stupid [10:20] <+rickf> but know i traded my plan, didn't chase, and was consistent. a win is a win [10:23] <@NihabaAshi> 0,3 Long ES @ 903.75 -> small size  [10:23] <+rickf> short es 903 [10:24] <@NihabaAshi> 0,2 Exited ES Long @ 902.50 --> - 1.25  [10:24] <+szubaark> 0,4 Shorts ES @ 901.75 4,0 «« paper »»  [10:25] <+rickf> exit es 901.50 +1.5 [10:25] <+pat255> nice rick geez range day [10:25] <+rickf> thx - only lookign for 1, 1.5 points right now [10:25] <+rickf> (scalping in my parlance) [10:26] <@NihabaAshi> 0,3 Long ES @ 903.25 -> small size  [10:26] <@NihabaAshi> 3 only [10:27] <+szubaark> 0,2 Covered all Short ES at 904.25 --> - 2.5 4,0 «« paper »»  [10:27] <@NihabaAshi> 0,2 Exited all ES Long @ 905.00 --> + 1.75  [10:28] <+pat255> vn [10:29] <+rickf> every little bit [10:29] <+rickf> EIA numbers at 1035 [10:29] <@NihabaAshi> I'm a little slow today because I have open 3 different trading platforms...comparing the speed of my ISP after I requested my ISP to put me on a different server. [10:31] <+szubaark> 0,3 Buys ES @ 906.50 4,0 «« paper »»  [10:37] <+silo[zZ]> 0,4 Shorts YM @ 8811 4,0 «« paper »»  [10:39] <bazooka85> gm all [10:39] <+bazooka85> 0,3 Long ES @ 905.50 4,0 «« paper »»  [10:39] <+bazooka85> back to paper for me [10:40] <+bazooka85> planning to do it minimum of what rickf did it for [10:40] <+silo[zZ]> 0,2 Covered all YM Short @ 8817 --> - 6 4,0 «« paper »»  [10:40] <+rickf> whatever works [10:41] <+szubaark> 0,2 Exited all Long ES at 907.75 --> + 1.25 4,0 «« paper »»  [10:41] <+rickf> i paper trade some stuff myself, and to refine my styl [10:41] <+rickf> style [10:42] <+bazooka85> i know why i failed now [10:42] <+bazooka85> market conditions changed [10:42] <+bazooka85> my method didn't [10:42] <+szubaark> can u define the market conidtions? [10:44] <+bazooka85> we were staying within a different kind of volatility before [10:44] <+bazooka85> when i paper traded extrodinarily good [10:44] <+bazooka85> trends changed, emotions changed [10:46] <+bazooka85> i guess it's the psychology of newer people entering the markets again after leaving from before [10:46] <+bazooka85> 0,2 Exited all ES Long @ 906.25 --> + 0.75 4,0 «« paper »»  [10:46] * +Tintin 4,5----[0,5 shorts 0,5 tf 15,5@0,5 489.8 4,5]---- [10:47] <+rickf> long es 907 [10:47] <+bazooka85> 0,4 Shorts ES @ 907.25 4,0 «« paper »»  [10:48] <+jbuch> obama on [10:49] <+rickf> exit 908 +1 [10:53] <+rickf> back later - gym time [10:56] * +Tintin 4,5----[0,5 shorts 0,5 tf 15,5@0,5 491.3 avg in 4,5]---- [10:56] <+silo[zZ]> is obama still speaking? [10:56] <+silo[zZ]> what's teh deal [10:56] <+jbuch> yes [10:58] <+bazooka85> chop [10:58] <+bazooka85> lots of tweesers [11:00] * +Tintin 12,2----[0,2 covers 0,2 tf 15,2@0,2 490.3 +1 all out 12,2]---- [11:00] <+szubaark> 0,4 Shorts ES @ 906.50 4,0 «« paper »»  [11:00] * +Tintin 9,3----[0,3 buys 0,3 gc 15,3@0,3 857.9 9,3]---- [11:02] <@X> 1,4 #FuturesTrades Info -> 1,0 Some members (including me) explain basic details about their trades posted in #FuturesTrades @ http://thestrategylab.com/forum/index.php?board=58.0 and there's a link there to take you to #FuturesTrades archived logs if you're interested in reviewing past trades or market commentary posted in #FuturesTrades. [11:05] <+szubaark> 0,2 Covered all Short ES at 909.25 --> - 2.75 4,0 «« paper »»  [11:05] <+bazooka85> 0,2 Covered ES Short @ 909.25 --> - 2 4,0 «« paper »»  [11:05] <+bazooka85> 0,3 Reverse and Enter Long ES @ 909.25 4,0 «« paper »»  [11:06] <+szubaark> 0,4 Shorts ES @ 908 4,0 «« paper »»  [11:08] <+bazooka85> 0,2 Exited all ES Long @ 907.25 --> - 2 4,0 «« paper »»  [11:10] <+bazooka85> 0,3 Long ES @ 906.75 4,0 «« paper »»  [11:11] <+szubaark> 0,2 Covered all Short ES at 905 --> + 3 4,0 «« paper »»  [11:11] <+bazooka85> 0,2 Exited all ES Long @ 904.75 --> - 2 4,0 «« paper »»  [11:11] <+bazooka85> brb [11:12] <T-stop> obama done [11:15] <+bazooka85> 0,4 Shorts ES @ 904.50 4,0 «« paper »»  [11:20] <+szubaark> 0,4 Shorts ES @ 903 4,0 «« paper »»  [11:23] <+bazooka85> 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 903.25 --> + 1.25 4,0 «« paper »»  [11:25] <+szubaark> 0,2 Covered all Short ES at 902 --> + 1 4,0 «« paper »»  [11:27] <+bazooka85> 0,3 Long ES @ 902.25 4,0 «« paper »»  [11:29] * +Tintin 9,3----[0,3 buys 0,3 estx 15,3@0,3 2451 9,3]---- [11:30] <+szubaark> 0,3 Buys ES @ 903.50 4,0 «« paper »»  [11:30] * +Tintin 4,5----[0,5 shorts 0,5 eur 15,5@0,5 1.4327 4,5]---- [11:32] * +Tintin 12,2----[0,2 covers 0,2 eur 15,2@0,2 1.4307 +0.0020 12,2]---- [11:33] * +Tintin 12,2----[0,2 covers 0,2 estx 15,2@0,2 2456 +5 12,2]---- [11:33] <+silo[zZ]> 0,3 Long YM @ 8768 4,0 «« paper »»  [11:35] <+bazooka85> so slow today [11:36] <+szubaark> 0,2 Exited all Long ES at 901.75 --> - 1.75 4,0 «« paper »»  [11:36] <+szubaark> 0,4 Shorts ES @ 901.50 4,0 «« paper »»  [11:36] * +Tintin 9,3----[0,3 buys 0,3 eur 15,3@0,3 1.4238 9,3]---- [11:37] <+silo[zZ]> 0,2 Exited all YM Long @ 8770 --> + 2 4,0 «« paper »»  [11:37] * +Tintin 12,2----[0,2 covers 0,2 eur 15,2@0,2 1.4248 +0.0010 12,2]---- [11:40] <+szubaark> 0,2 Covered all Short ES at 904 --> - 2.5 4,0 «« paper »»  [11:40] <+szubaark> 0,3 Buys ES @ 904 4,0 «« paper »»  [11:40] <+szubaark> shakeouts galore [11:40] <+jbuch> 0,3 Long SPY @ 91.11  [11:40] * codehead_afk is now known as codehead [11:41] * +Tintin 9,3----[0,3 buys 0,3 gc 15,3@0,3 854.4 avg in 9,3]---- [11:43] <+bazooka85> 0,2 Exited ES Long @ 903.50 --> + 1.25 4,0 «« paper »»  [11:43] <+bazooka85> 0,4 Reverse and Enter Short ES @ 903.50 4,0 «« paper »»  [11:46] <+jbuch> 0,2 Exited 2/3 SPY Long @ 91.21 --> + 0.1  [11:48] <+bazooka85> 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 905.50 --> - 2 4,0 «« paper »»  [11:48] <+bazooka85> you said it szubaark [11:49] <+szubaark> with low volatility, the pros see your every Move [11:50] <+szubaark> 0,6 exit stop set ES @ 903.50 4,0 «« paper »»  [11:52] <+szubaark> 0,2 Exited all Long ES at 905.25 --> + 1.25 4,0 «« paper »»  [11:54] <+silo[zZ]> 0,4 Shorts YM @ 8791 4,0 «« paper »»  [11:57] <+silo[zZ]> 0,2 Covered all YM Short @ 8791 --> 0 4,0 «« paper »»  [12:00] <+bazooka85> 0,4 Shorts ES @ 906.25 4,0 «« paper »»  [12:00] <+jbuch> 0,2 Exited Remainder SPY Long @ 91.34 --> + 0.23  [12:00] <+szubaark> jbuch who u trading SPY with? do they require 25K margin to daytrade them? [12:00] <+jbuch> breakfast time brb [12:03] <+bazooka85> whew [12:03] <+bazooka85> u got out just in time [12:05] <+bazooka85> 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 903.25 --> + 3 4,0 «« paper »»  [12:05] <+szubaark> 0,4 Shorts ES @ 903.50 4,0 «« paper »»  [12:08] <+bazooka85> 0,4 Shorts ES @ 903.75 4,0 «« paper »»  [12:09] <@NihabaAshi> 0,4 Shorts ES @ 904.00 -> medium size  [12:09] <@NihabaAshi> 5 only [12:11] <+silo[zZ]> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CezNIRYYGY [12:11] <+silo[zZ]> this is hilarious guys [12:12] <+szubaark> 0,2 Covered all Short ES at 905 --> - 1.5 4,0 «« paper »»  [12:12] <@NihabaAshi> 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 905.00 --> - 1  [12:14] <@NihabaAshi> 0,3 Long ES @ 905.00 -> medium size  [12:14] <@NihabaAshi> 5 only [12:16] * +Tintin 12,2----[0,2 covers 0,2 gc 15,2@0,2 855.4 +1 all out 12,2]---- [12:17] <+jbuch> sorry szu didn't see your question. I am using trade station. I am not sure what the minimum is. [12:18] <+silo[zZ]> 0,4 Shorts YM @ 8774 4,0 «« paper »»  [12:19] <+jbuch> just looked it up 30,000 is min for "pattern day trading" [12:19] <+szubaark> 0,3 Buys ES @ 905.75 4,0 «« paper »»  [12:19] <+bazooka85> 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 905.75 --> - 2 4,0 «« paper »»  [12:21] <+szubaark> 0,2 Exited all Long ES at 904 --> - 1.75 4,0 «« paper »»  [12:21] <+szubaark> 0,4 Shorts ES @ 904 4,0 «« paper »»  [12:22] <+bazooka85> 0,3 Long ES @ 903.25 4,0 «« paper »»  [12:23] <@NihabaAshi> 0,2 Exited ES Long @ 903.50 --> - 1.5  [12:23] <@NihabaAshi> 0,4 Reverse and Enter Short ES @ 903.50  [12:24] <+szubaark> ( [12:25] * +Tintin 4,5----[0,5 shorts 0,5 gc 15,5@0,5 856.7 4,5]---- [12:26] <@NihabaAshi> DAX 1203pm or 1204pm est has a price spike down... [12:26] * +Tintin 12,2----[0,2 covers 0,2 gc 15,2@0,2 855.7 +1 12,2]---- [12:26] <@NihabaAshi> Anybody else has that with their data provider ??? [12:26] <+silo[zZ]> 0,2 Covered 1/2 YM Short @ 8740 --> + 34 4,0 «« paper »»  [12:26] <+silo[zZ]> 0,2 Covered Remainder YM Short @ 8746 --> + 28 4,0 «« paper »»  [12:26] <+bazooka85> i saw that short nihaba [12:27] <+bazooka85> but im stubborn [12:27] <@NihabaAshi> Anybody has the DAX spike down because I'm doing data comparisons today and I only have it with QCharts...not with FutureSource nor Sierra. [12:29] <+bazooka85> nope [12:29] <+bazooka85> fdax right? [12:30] <@NihabaAshi> yeah...same thing [12:30] <+bazooka85> i typed in dax earlier [12:30] <+pat255> sorry dont have dax feed.. [12:30] <+bazooka85> no spike [12:30] <@NihabaAshi> Be back later...will post late trade result...gota switch some data servers. [12:30] * NihabaAshi is now known as NihabaAshi_away [12:31] <+pat255> NAZ holding like a rock [12:32] * +Tintin 4,5----[0,5 shorts 0,5 eur 15,5@0,5 1.4210 4,5]---- [12:32] * +Tintin 4,5----[0,5 shorts 0,5 gc 15,5@0,5 855.6 4,5]---- [12:32] * +Tintin 12,2----[0,2 covers 0,2 gc 15,2@0,2 854.6 +1 12,2]---- [12:33] * +Tintin 12,2----[0,2 covers 0,2 eur 15,2@0,2 1.4200 +0.0010 12,2]---- [12:34] * +Tintin 4,5----[0,5 shorts 0,5 eur 15,5@0,5 1.4209 4,5]---- [12:35] * +Tintin 12,2----[0,2 covers 0,2 eur 15,2@0,2 1 12,2]---- [12:35] * +Tintin 12,2----[0,2 covers 0,2 eur 15,2@0,2 1.4199 +0.0010 12,2]---- [12:37] <+bazooka85> 0,2 Exited ES Long @ 903.00 --> - 0.25 4,0 «« paper »»  [12:37] <+bazooka85> 0,4 Reverse and Enter Short ES @ 903.00 4,0 «« paper »»  [12:39] <+rickf> back [12:39] <+szubaark> hi rick [12:39] <+rickf> [12:41] <@NihabaAshi_away> 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 901.00 --> + 2.5  [12:41] * NihabaAshi_away is now known as NihabaAshi_lunch [12:42] <+szubaark> 0,2 Covered all Short ES at 902.25 --> + 1.75 4,0 «« paper »»  [12:44] <+silo[zZ]> jbuch, the requirement for stocks and futures are different i believe [12:44] <+silo[zZ]> but yeah szu, just look it up [12:45] <+szubaark> SPY moves tick for tick with ES [12:46] <+szubaark> mistakes on ES can be costly LOL [12:49] <+szubaark> 0,3 Buys ES @ 903.75 4,0 «« paper »»  [12:49] <+bazooka85> very [12:52] <+szubaark> 0,2 Exited all Long ES at 903.75 --> 0 4,0 «« paper »»  [12:54] <+szubaark> 0,4 Shorts ES @ 903.25 4,0 «« paper »»  [12:59] <+szubaark> 0,2 Covered all Short ES at 903.25 --> 0 4,0 «« paper »»  [12:59] <+rickf> tomorrow is quad-witch btw ... likely only lurking here and perhaps adding to stock positions if there are major moves. too quirky of a day for me [12:59] <+szubaark> not going anywhere [12:59] <+silo[zZ]> 0,4 Shorts YM @ 8755 4,0 «« paper »»  [13:00] <+rickf> sheesh 12pt range today [13:00] <+szubaark> dont forget the fakeouts in between ) [13:04] <+szubaark> 0,4 Shorts ES @ 902.75 4,0 «« paper »»  [13:05] * +Tintin : lunchtime ... bbl [13:05] <@X> 1,4 #FuturesTrades Info -> 1,0 Some members (including me) explain basic details about their trades posted in #FuturesTrades @ http://thestrategylab.com/forum/index.php?board=58.0 and there's a link there to take you to #FuturesTrades archived logs if you're interested in reviewing past trades or market commentary posted in #FuturesTrades. [13:14] <+szubaark> 0,2 Covered all Short ES at 904 --> - 1.25 4,0 «« paper »»  [13:14] <+szubaark> 0,3 Buys ES @ 904 4,0 «« paper »»  [13:15] <bazooka85> i've been in this trade [13:15] <+bazooka85> for like 30 min now+ [13:16] <+rickf> *yawn* [13:17] <+silo[zZ]> [13:16] <silo[zZ]> brb [13:17] <+silo[zZ]> [13:16] <silo[zZ]> getting food [13:17] <+bazooka85> 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 905.00 --> - 2 4,0 «« paper »»  [13:17] <+bazooka85> finally [13:17] <+bazooka85> jeez [13:18] <+silo[zZ]> 0,2 Covered all YM Short @ 8769 --> - 14 4,0 «« paper »»  [13:18] <+silo[zZ]> back [13:21] <+szubaark> 0,2 Exited all Long ES at 903.50 --> - 0.5 4,0 «« paper »»  [13:22] <+szubaark> 0,4 Shorts ES @ 903.50 4,0 «« paper »»  [13:22] <+rickf> comatose tape [13:22] <+rickf> good day to watch [13:22] <@NihabaAshi_lunch> 0,4 Shorts ES @ 903.50 -> small size  [13:22] <@NihabaAshi_lunch> 3 only [13:22] * NihabaAshi_lunch is now known as Nihaba [13:22] <+szubaark> i like to watch if im Postitive, right now im down so need to trade [13:23] * Nihaba is now known as NihabaAshi [13:23] <+rickf> "need" ? [13:23] <+rickf> [13:23] <+szubaark> "try" [13:24] <+rickf> nono i meant 'need' to trade ... hardest HARDEST thing i learned was if i was down and i didnt see a good tape or trade, i would sit out [13:24] <+rickf> otherwise that hole became a crater [13:24] <+rickf> then i'd really hate myself [13:24] <+rickf> but that's jut me [13:29] <+szubaark> Volatility showing up [13:31] <+codehead> wave confluence at 8701, fib extension at 8700 [13:32] <+rickf> any bets we bounce 901-905 until 3pm? [13:32] <+codehead> but this wave symmetery target at 8735 gave support twice now [13:35] <+jbuch> I think we break downward [13:35] <+szubaark> yes thats why im holding Short [13:36] <+codehead> real good confluence at 8700--i see the most recent fib extension is 8702 as well [13:41] <@NihabaAshi> 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 900.00 --> + 3.5  [13:43] <+codehead> 8685 ara also confluence [13:43] * NihabaAshi is now known as NihabaAshi_away [13:43] <+codehead> some wave support 8720 [13:45] <+szubaark> 0,2 Covered all Short ES at 898.50 --> + 5 4,0 «« paper »»  [13:47] <+jbuch> vn szu [13:48] <+szubaark> thanks [13:53] <@NihabaAshi_away> 0,3 Long ES @ 896.25 -> medium size  [13:53] <@NihabaAshi_away> 4 only [13:54] * NihabaAshi_away is now known as NihabaAshi [13:54] <+codehead> long YM 8691, stop 8683 <paper> small [13:54] <+codehead> took a couple of real tries, but i'm too chicken to hang on [13:55] <+codehead> exit half +10 <paper> [13:55] <+codehead> maintain stop on remainder [13:55] <+codehead> target 8733 [13:55] <+szubaark> Volatility was Dead THEN decided to show up out of NOWHERE [13:56] <+szubaark> thats why we say its Dead,its slow, you NEVER KNOW when Volatility will show up [14:00] * +Tintin : bye all [14:00] <+codehead> hit the wave target at 84 exactly (YM) [14:00] <+codehead> my stop a tick under it [14:01] <@NihabaAshi> 0,2 Exited ES Long @ 896.00 --> - 0.25  [14:01] <@NihabaAshi> 0,4 Reverse and Enter Short ES @ 896.00  [14:02] <+codehead> exit remainder -8, stop hit <paper> [14:03] <+codehead> stop was pretty tight, prolly 8679 stop more realistic, but wanted to test that wave target tight [14:03] <+codehead> 8726 now target if that holds [14:09] <+silo[zZ]> 0,4 Shorts YM @ 8700 4,0 «« paper »»  [14:10] <+codehead> long YM 8694 <paper> just 1c, stop 8679 [14:15] <+codehead> exit YM +5 <paper> [14:17] <+codehead> long 1c YM 8692 <paper> 1c stop 8679 [14:17] <+codehead> 8640's better long area [14:18] <+codehead> mmm, bad re-entry, in a sell signal [14:19] <+codehead> stopped -13 <paper> [14:19] <+silo[zZ]> 0,2 Covered 1/2 YM Short @ 8675 --> + 25 4,0 «« paper »»  [14:20] <+silo[zZ]> 0,2 Covered Remainder YM Short @ 8667 --> + 33 4,0 «« paper »»  [14:20] <@NihabaAshi> 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 893.00 --> + 3  [14:20] <+silo[zZ]> profit target reached [14:21] <+codehead> long 1c 8660 YM <paper> [14:21] <+codehead> add one 8651 <paper> [14:21] <+codehead> 8649 was wave target [14:21] <+codehead> 8641 a previous low bounce point [14:22] <+codehead> 8676 target [14:23] <@NihabaAshi> 0,4 Shorts ES @ 890.50 -> small size  [14:23] <@NihabaAshi> 3 only [14:24] <@NihabaAshi> 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 886.50 --> + 4  [14:24] <+silo[zZ]> 0,3 Long YM @ 8611 4,0 «« paper »»  [14:24] <+silo[zZ]> 1 [14:25] <+Bambam-77> saaasweet [14:27] <@NihabaAshi> 0,3 Long ES @ 889.00 -> small size  [14:27] <@NihabaAshi> trade error [14:28] <@NihabaAshi> 0,2 Exited all ES Long @ 889.75 --> + 0.75  [14:28] <@NihabaAshi> Lucky exit after accidentally clicking the buy button [14:28] <@NihabaAshi> I'm done trading for the day. [14:29] <@NihabaAshi> Take care all and see all tomorrow. [14:29] * NihabaAshi is now known as NihabaAshi_away [14:32] <+silo[zZ]> 0,2 Exited all YM Long @ 8630 --> + 19 4,0 «« paper »»  [14:32] <+codehead> oil plunge [14:32] <+codehead> for crude close [14:32] <+rickf> short es 888.50 [14:36] <+rickf> exit 888.50 b/e [14:37] <+codehead> 8664 and 8682 bounce targets [14:40] <+codehead> exit YM -2, -11 <paper> [14:40] <+rickf> long es 890 [14:40] <+codehead> shoudl hit 8664 tho [14:41] <+codehead> but i was mistaken on chart bounce point--one i had in mind 200 lower (!) [14:41] <+codehead> and got caught up in real scalps and never had a stop in that paper trade [14:44] <+rickf> exit es 890 b/e [14:44] <+rickf> [14:49] <+rickf> long es 891 [14:50] <+rickf> exut es 891.50 [14:51] <+rickf> +.50 [14:51] <+rickf> long es 892 [14:54] <+rickf> exit es 893 +1 [14:55] <pdays> 0,3 Long ER2 @ 479.8  [14:55] <+pdays> 0,2 Exited all ER2 Long @ 481.1 --> + 1.3  [14:57] <+szubaark> 0,4 Shorts ES @ 893 4,0 «« paper »»  [14:58] <+rickf> first day in a while where my profitable trades were all 1.5 or less [14:58] <+rickf> like 3 for b/e too [14:58] <+rickf> owell [15:00] <+szubaark> 0,2 Covered all Short ES at 889.75 --> + 3.25 4,0 «« paper »»  [15:00] <+rickf> vn [15:00] <+szubaark> thnx [15:04] <+rickf> last hour is here [15:05] <+rickf> short es 889.50 [15:07] <+codehead> ok, so we wiped out the fed bump now [15:07] <+szubaark> 0,4 Shorts ES @ 888 4,0 «« paper »»  [15:08] <@X> 1,4 #FuturesTrades Info -> 1,0 Some members (including me) explain basic details about their trades posted in #FuturesTrades @ http://thestrategylab.com/forum/index.php?board=58.0 and there's a link there to take you to #FuturesTrades archived logs if you're interested in reviewing past trades or market commentary posted in #FuturesTrades. [15:09] <+szubaark> just a Scalp [15:09] <+szubaark> 0,2 Covered all Short ES at 997 --> - 109 4,0 «« paper »»  [15:09] <+szubaark> 0,2 Covered all Short ES at 887 --> + 1 4,0 «« paper »»  [15:09] <+rickf> exit es 887 +2.50 [15:09] <+szubaark> nice entry rick [15:09] <+rickf> thx [15:10] <+szubaark> i wanted more confirmation [15:10] <+rickf> actually exit 887,25 so +2.25 [15:10] <+rickf> not gonna get greedy - too close to LOD for me to be short w/comfort [15:11] <+szubaark> this is perfect time and place to start some good Choppin' [15:12] <+jbuch> hehe [15:13] <+rickf> of course - i'm out and it drops. murphy's laws of themarket [15:13] <+rickf> CURSE YOU MISTER MURPHY [15:13] <+rickf> lol [15:14] <bazooka85> back [15:17] <+bazooka85> oil 35.98 lows [15:18] <+silo[zZ]> 0,3 Long YM @ 8585 4,0 «« paper »»  [15:19] <+rickf> was nice to fill the tank for under $28 the other day [15:20] <+bazooka85> my tc fills under 20 [15:21] <+silo[zZ]> 0,2 Exited all YM Long @ 8750 --> + 165 4,0 «« paper »»  [15:21] <+silo[zZ]> my bad 8575 [15:21] <+silo[zZ]> 8570 actuawlly [15:22] <+silo[zZ]> well done for the day [15:22] <+silo[zZ]> good luck guys [15:22] <+codehead> long small 8531 YM <paper> [15:23] * +rickf serves me right for being impatient -- ah well, still did a successful trade [15:23] <+rickf> more important than the # of points imho [15:25] <+bazooka85> nice silo [15:26] <+szubaark> bazooka, he typed the wrong number [15:29] <+bazooka85> 0,3 Long ES @ 876.50 4,0 «« paper »»  [15:29] <+bazooka85> so he lost 15 points [15:31] <+codehead> target 8580 [15:32] <+jbuch> what did we bet rickf [15:32] <+rickf> nobody took the offer [15:32] <+rickf> [15:33] <+codehead> exit Ym +21 <paper> [15:36] <+szubaark> 0,3 Buys ES @ 879.50 4,0 «« paper »»  [15:36] <+szubaark> 0,2 Exited all Long ES at 880.50 --> + 1 4,0 «« paper »»  [15:36] <+codehead> 8580 target hit [15:36] <+szubaark> im doen [15:37] <+bazooka85> 0,2 Exited all ES Long @ 879.50 --> + 3 4,0 «« paper »»  [15:39] <+bazooka85> 0,4 Shorts ES @ 881.25 4,0 «« paper »»  [15:39] <+jbuch> did you break the losing streak szu [15:41] <+bazooka85> 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 883.25 --> - 2 4,0 «« paper »»  [15:41] <+bazooka85> tomorrow is "quadriple witch" day [15:42] <+szubaark> yes.. Green today [15:43] <+szubaark> I realized yersturday that after "tweaking" my method i completely lost the main idea and had my "counts" wrong [15:43] <+jbuch> nice [15:43] <+szubaark> I focused too much on the little things and not the main goal [15:43] <+bazooka85> 0,4 Shorts ES @ 882.25 4,0 «« paper »»  [15:44] <+szubaark> im constantly adjusting,improving my method so i can beat the house [15:44] <+jbuch> counts like h1 h2 l1 l2? [15:44] <+bazooka85> hey silo [15:44] <+bazooka85> u there? [15:44] <+szubaark> Swings [15:44] <+bazooka85> 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 879.75 --> + 2.5 4,0 «« paper »»  [15:44] <+jbuch> k [15:45] <+szubaark> also incorporating more FIBS since the ES loves them so much [15:45] <+bazooka85> yeah i see that too szubaark [15:46] <+bazooka85> but i dont use it to open a position, i use it to be careful getting false signals [15:46] <+bazooka85> if i get a short signal and the price is currently sitting near 61.8 retracement level upwards, then i dont enter it in--example [15:47] <+szubaark> well, its a lot of things not just Swings or Fibs, like Niha says "Its a Book with many chapters" [15:47] <+szubaark> sometimes my Analysis can be good BUT i dont feel good, my results will suffer [15:50] <+bazooka85> 0,3 Long ES @ 884.00 4,0 «« paper »»  [15:54] <+bazooka85> 0,2 Exited all ES Long @ 882.00 --> - 2 4,0 «« paper »»  [15:55] <+bazooka85> was chasing intentionally [15:55] * +bazooka85 hits self on head [15:58] <+jbuch> rickf how long did it take you get used to posting when not simulated [15:58] <+bazooka85> brb [15:58] <+rickf> ? [15:59] <+jbuch> I am finding it difficult to post while in a trade [15:59] <+rickf> oh [15:59] <+rickf> i post my trades when/as i can [15:59] <+rickf> trade first, post second [15:59] <+rickf> if you're late, you're late [16:00] <+rickf> there are times when i'll do things like -- [16:00] <+rickf> short es xxx.xx (normal trade, plenty of time to type) [16:00] <+rickf> short es from xxx.xxx (after the fact, fast market, but you know i'm in) [16:01] <+rickf> or in a real hurry, since i only trade the es, you might see "short xx.xxx" [16:01] <+rickf> regulars here will know what i trade [16:01] <+jbuch> thats good idea and then post after [16:01] <+rickf> ALWAYS! [16:02] <+jbuch> or for me once i get my brackets set [16:02] <+rickf> whatever works [16:02] <+jbuch> thnxs [16:03] <+rickf> i think the only follks dying to know exact trades right away are folks trying to mirror trades [16:03] <bazooka85> <- [16:04] <+bazooka85> but only on nihaba's trades [16:04] <+jbuch> ya but I feel uncomfertable posting after the move has gone [16:04] <+bazooka85> try to find out how he got his signals [16:04] <+rickf> it's a journal here [16:04] <+rickf> not a signal calling room [16:07] <+jbuch> I have picked up some great ideas and new ways of looking at the market from reading old da [16:07] <+jbuch> days [16:10] <+jbuch> have good night all [16:10] <+rickf> cya [16:12] <+bazooka85> alright guys [16:12] <+bazooka85> i got the biggest headache [16:12] <+bazooka85> good trading [16:15] <+rickf> gnight all [16:22] <+werner> gn all [17:14] <@X> 1,4 #FuturesTrades Info -> 1,0 Some members (including me) explain basic details about their trades posted in #FuturesTrades @ http://thestrategylab.com/forum/index.php?board=58.0 and there's a link there to take you to #FuturesTrades archived logs if you're interested in reviewing past trades or market commentary posted in #FuturesTrades. 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