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click on the above image to view today's price action of key markets [09:29:38] * Now talking in ##TheStrategyLab
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http://www.thestrategylab.com/tsl/forum/[09:33:04] <Tigerman______>
all
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[09:36:05] <wrbtrader> Hi Tigerman
[09:36:09] <wrbtrader> Good morning all
[09:37:08] <wrbtrader> Shorts Emini ES @ 2664.00 -> large size
[09:37:15] <wrbtrader> 10 contracts
[09:37:27] <wrbtrader>
[09:38:37] <wrbtrader> Covered all Emini ES Short @ 2663.50 --> + 0.5
[09:39:01] <wrbtrader> bad entry on the trade...actually via wrong analysis
[09:42:41] <Tigerman______> hi wrbtrader
[09:43:57] <wrbtrader> Shorts Emini ES @ 2663.75 -> large size
[09:44:00] <wrbtrader> 10 contracts
[09:44:06] <wrbtrader> re-entry
[09:46:11] <wrbtrader> Covered all Emini ES Short @ 2662.25 --> + 1.5
[09:46:16] <wrbtrader> Two consecutive bad trades...nothing but luck so far
[09:46:24] <wrbtrader>
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http://www.thestrategylab.com/tsl/forum/[09:47:08] <wrbtrader> At least the directional analysis is correct
[09:52:52] <wrbtrader> Shorts Emini ES @ 2661.25 -> large size
[09:53:00] <wrbtrader> 10 contracts
[09:53:14] <wrbtrader> no wiggle room here for any errors
[09:54:18] <wrbtrader> Covered all Emini ES Short @ 2659.75 --> + 1.5
[09:54:44] <wrbtrader> not a WRB pt1
[09:54:50] <wrbtrader> exited on some fear
[09:55:05] <Tigerman______> wrbtrader... today was a mess too with IB
[09:55:11] <wrbtrader> due to the prior two trades being error prone
[09:55:21] <Tigerman______> hopefull I discover a bug with their platform
[09:55:48] <Tigerman______> problems with partials orders
[09:56:43] <Tigerman______> their system has issue with order midify and not a mach with size of order and stop with same size
[09:57:03] <Tigerman______> simply no way to me to exit my position or add a new one
[09:57:08] <Tigerman______> at last I did
[09:57:23] <Tigerman______> that cause loss same yesterday
[09:57:44] <Tigerman______> seems issue increase with larger orders
[09:58:24] <Tigerman______> regardless I have to dig more in it to see some soluctions
[09:59:49] <Tigerman______> system not work good when I modify my profit order to exit partials
[10:00:00] <wrbtrader> You suggesting its a liquidity issue with placing larger size on IB
??
[10:01:25] <wrbtrader> You're trading Emini ES futures...right
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http://www.thestrategylab.com/tsl/forum/[10:05:00] <Tigerman______> order is filled at 2263
[10:06:55] <wrbtrader_away> ES not at 2263
[10:06:55] <Tigerman______> pretend I used 4 contracts
[10:07:24] * wrbtrader_away is now known as wrbtrader
[10:07:52] <wrbtrader> sorry...maybe I missed something because I keep getting disconnected
[10:08:12] <wrbtrader> Not computer problems...something weird for the OPs of their chat rooms on IRC
[10:08:46] <wrbtrader> Tigerman...can you quote your Emini ES futures price now
??
[10:10:19] <Tigerman______> 2664
[10:10:51] <Tigerman______> ah before I written 2263 ..it was 2663
[10:11:27] <Tigerman______> meanwhile I got a bank call
[10:11:37] <Tigerman______> not IB saving bank
[10:11:52] <Tigerman______> regardless...
[10:12:07] <Tigerman______> now we are at 2665
[10:12:13] <wrbtrader> Yes
[10:12:32] <Tigerman______> so I can enter at 2665 wit auto-stop at 2663
[10:12:39] <Tigerman______> just an example
[10:12:42] <wrbtrader> ok
[10:12:57] <Tigerman______> pretend I use 4 contracts
[10:14:00] <Tigerman______> usually I also put a profit 2 points higher like 2667
[10:14:56] <Tigerman______> assuming now volatility increase ... so I plan to exit 1/2 postition at 2666
[10:15:29] <Tigerman______> remainder later at higher levels
[10:16:07] <Tigerman______> I modify my profit order at 2 contract and exit at 2666
[10:16:33] <Tigerman______> at this point I have 2 contracts still in positions
[10:16:51] <wrbtrader> ok
[10:17:26] <Tigerman______> I have to add a New order of 2 contracts at 2668 or other price
[10:17:55] <Tigerman______> my original stop remain still with 4 contracts!!!
[10:19:48] <Tigerman______> for odd reason this unmach in position and stop is not welcome in IB
[10:20:54] <Tigerman______> it is deleted from dome ..while it remain pending on another window and not able to delete it
[10:21:12] <wrbtrader> ahhh
[10:21:49] <wrbtrader> I've heard about the problems with the orders via the DOM at IB before about 3 years ago
[10:21:53] <Tigerman______> maybe IB has some oprtion to auto -mofify stop contract when profit parent order is midified
[10:22:24] <Tigerman______> oops many typo sorry
[10:24:39] <Tigerman______> because I also modify my original stop order at only 2 contracts when I exit half positions ... simply many times that stop order remain pending with original 4 contracts
[10:25:13] <Tigerman______> so in fast market that stop became a n order to trigger a sell positions
[10:25:27] <Tigerman______> in case I cannot delete
[10:26:33] <Tigerman______> wrbtrader... with TT do you modify in manual your auto-stop when you decide to exit half positions?
[10:27:03] <Tigerman______> I mean after half position exited your stop have to be set just for half size now
[10:28:50] <wrbtrader> As you know...I rarely scale out
[10:29:03] <wrbtrader> Yet, when I do it...
[10:29:10] <wrbtrader> Its not auto
[10:29:13] <wrbtrader> I do it manually
[10:29:57] <wrbtrader> They have something for auto-scale but I've never used it
[10:30:12] <wrbtrader> Thus, I don't know if there's any problems with it
[10:30:45] <wrbtrader> I did see a video on Youtube once some years back by someone that does it all the time and he recorded it
[10:31:08] <Tigerman______> ok thanks... maybe it is my way to do many trades and modify on fly original orders and also add new orders
[10:31:26] <wrbtrader> I remember the video seemed more like a recommendation to switch to TT because the auto scale out of a position worked flawlessly
[10:31:28] <Tigerman______> it can give some issue on IB
[10:32:29] <Tigerman______> maybe is there a reason istitutional use TT or CQG
[10:33:05] <Tigerman______> or I have to be more relaxed and stop modify too much
[10:33:26] <wrbtrader> Apparently its the largest growing business for TT and CQG...business accounts (e.g. professional traders
[10:34:13] <Tigerman______> I think I use exit partial because I m not sure of my entry so I exit 2/3 for few think while try to get a Wrb pt1 for the remainder
[10:50:16] <Tigerman______> I have to go
[10:50:23] <Tigerman______> take care all see next time
[11:00:26] <wrbtrader> Shorts Emini ES @ 2665.25 -> small size
[11:00:29] <wrbtrader> 3 contracts
[11:00:58] <wrbtrader> problem getting filled @ 2667.50
[11:01:32] <wrbtrader> resulting in me chasing it below 2665.50 as it dropped fast after 2667.50
[11:02:09] <wrbtrader> Covered all Emini ES Short @ 2665.00 --> + 0.25
[11:02:20] <wrbtrader>
[11:02:31] <wrbtrader> easily spooked out of the trade
[11:06:35] <wrbtrader> Shorts Emini ES @ 2664.00 -> medium size
[11:06:40] <wrbtrader> 5 contractes
[11:06:55] <wrbtrader> increasing volatility
[11:07:15] <wrbtrader> reason for the size increase from 3 contracts
[11:09:00] <wrbtrader> Covered all Emini ES Short @ 2663.75 --> + 0.25
[11:09:11] <wrbtrader> trail stop pick pocketed
[11:10:06] <wrbtrader> Shorts Emini ES @ 2662.00 -> medium size
[11:10:16] <wrbtrader> 5 contractes
[11:11:23] <wrbtrader> Covered all Emini ES Short @ 2663.50 --> - 1.5
[11:12:19] <werner> hi all
[11:13:19] <wrbtrader> Emini ES futures retracing back to the R area of the most recent Up WRB Hidden GAP interval on incrseasing volatility
[11:13:34] <werner> yep
[11:14:26] <wrbtrader> Long Emini ES @ 2669.50 -> medium size
[11:14:33] <wrbtrader> 5 contracts
[11:15:34] <wrbtrader> so far no follow thru on the increasing volatility
[11:15:59] <wrbtrader> Its trying now
[11:16:04] <werner> yep
[11:16:55] <wrbtrader> Exited all Emini ES Long @ 2674.00 --> + 4.5
[11:19:26] <werner> vn
[11:25:18] <wrbtrader> Yeah...glad I didn't freeze after that losing Short position
[11:26:12] <werner> ok i see no shoert because i logt in late
[11:26:19] <werner> short
[11:26:59] <wrbtrader> Long Emini ES @ 2668.25 -> small size
[11:27:01] <wrbtrader> 1 contract
[11:27:59] <wrbtrader> a little chop just showed up
[11:28:23] <wrbtrader> volatility now contracting
[11:29:34] <wrbtrader> Exited Emini ES Long @ 2670.75 --> + 2.5
[11:29:44] <wrbtrader> WRB pt1 reached
[11:31:13] <wrbtrader> Shorts Emini ES @ 2668.50 -> small size
[11:31:21] <wrbtrader> 1 contract
[11:31:28] <wrbtrader> more contraction in the volatility
[11:33:18] <wrbtrader> WRB pt1 reached too slow to grab it @ 2667.50
[11:33:45] <wrbtrader> may get a 2nd chance at it and more with this Long Lower Shadow interval
[11:34:17] <wrbtrader> Covered Emini ES Short @ 2667.75 --> + 0.75
[11:34:32] <wrbtrader> shallow WRB pt1 reached
[11:50:52] <wrbtrader> Shorts Emini ES @ 2666.75 -> small size
[11:51:01] <wrbtrader> 1 contract
[11:52:13] <wrbtrader> Covered Emini ES Short @ 2666.00 --> + 0.75
[11:52:19] <wrbtrader> early exit
[11:52:22] <wrbtrader> be back later
[11:54:16] <werner> Long Emini NQ @ 6814.00
[11:59:29] <werner> Exited all Emini NQ Long @ 6809.00 --> - 5
[12:02:25] <werner> chop
[12:05:36] <wrbtrader> Long Emini ES @ 2664.50 -> small size
[12:05:45] <wrbtrader> 1 contract
[12:06:31] <wrbtrader> Exited Emini ES Long @ 2664.25 --> - 0.25
[12:06:37] <wrbtrader>
[12:13:16] <werner> Long Emini NQ @ 6803.50
[12:15:08] <werner> djeez
[12:15:23] <werner> Exited all Emini NQ Long @ 6803.50 --> 0
[12:18:04] <werner> Long Emini NQ @ 6806.00
[12:21:18] <werner> Exited all Emini NQ Long @ 6804.00 --> - 2
[12:22:01] <werner> side line ...
[14:08:27] <wrbtrader> Shorts Emini ES @ 2662.25 -> small size
[14:08:30] <wrbtrader> 3 contracts
[14:10:33] <wrbtrader> Covered all Emini ES Short @ 2660.75 --> + 1.5
[14:13:20] <wrbtrader> Shorts Emini ES @ 2660.50 -> small size
[14:13:24] <wrbtrader> 3 contracts
[14:14:12] <wrbtrader> nasty snapback up
[14:14:35] <wrbtrader> crazy sudden price movement
[14:16:11] <wrbtrader> Covered all Emini ES Short @ 2661.75 --> - 1.25
[14:16:32] <werner> chop chop
[14:16:52] <wrbtrader> President Trump is speaking
[14:17:02] <werner> aha tx
[14:17:26] <wrbtrader> probably about the IRAN deal
[14:17:36] <werner> yeah
[14:17:51] <wrbtrader> Shorts Emini ES @ 2661.25 -> small size
[14:18:02] <wrbtrader> re-entry
[14:18:40] <wrbtrader> Covered all Emini ES Short @ 2662.00 --> - 0.75
[14:19:07] <wrbtrader> Shorts Emini ES @ 2661.25 -> small size
[14:19:13] <wrbtrader> re-entry
[14:19:18] <wrbtrader> chopping me around
[14:19:37] <wrbtrader> 3 contracts
[14:20:11] <wrbtrader> Covered all Emini ES Short @ 2662.00 --> - 0.75
[14:20:37] <wrbtrader> Shorts Emini ES @ 2661.00 -> small size
[14:20:42] <wrbtrader> re-entry
[14:20:48] <wrbtrader> 3 contracts
[14:21:31] <wrbtrader> Covered all Emini ES Short @ 2661.00 --> 0
[14:21:37] <wrbtrader>
[14:24:43] <wrbtrader> He's no longer speaking and now signing papers
[14:24:59] <wrbtrader> Long Emini ES @ 2660.00 -> medium size
[14:25:09] <wrbtrader> 5 contracts
[14:25:37] <werner> ok tx
[14:25:45] <wrbtrader> correction
[14:25:59] <wrbtrader> Long Emini ES @ 2666.00 -> medium size
[14:27:17] <wrbtrader> Exited all Emini ES Long @ 2668.75 --> + 2.75
[14:33:52] <wrbtrader> Emini ES futures and Emini NQ futures back into the prior chop area
[14:34:29] <werner>
[14:36:43] <wrbtrader> Shorts Emini ES @ 2662.50 -> medium size
[14:36:51] <wrbtrader> 5 contracts
[14:38:23] <wrbtrader> Covered all Emini ES Short @ 2661.75 --> + 0.75
[14:39:30] <wrbtrader> Shorts Emini ES @ 2660.00 -> small size
[14:39:37] <wrbtrader> 1 contract
[14:40:01] <wrbtrader> WRB pt1 reached
[14:40:11] <wrbtrader> now it moves and I'm only 1 contract
[14:42:14] <werner> and i am not on this train ...had to reboot my pc
[14:42:18] <werner>
[14:42:26] <wrbtrader> Covered Emini ES Short @ 2653.25 --> + 6.75
[14:43:55] <wrbtrader> Light Crude Oil CL futures went crazy during that Trump speach too
[14:44:30] <wrbtrader> along with the issues going on in Venzuela
[14:45:02] <wrbtrader> never underestimate these types of KMEs involving Geo-Politics
[14:45:37] <werner> agree
[14:57:09] <wrbtrader> Not sure about the long term impact on Oil prices but if Oil continue higher...more money out of peoples pockets...increasing inflation and then maybe resulting in Higher Interest rates
[14:57:37] <wrbtrader> Crazy how all of this is inter-connected just because of a Geo-Political KME
[15:18:30] <wrbtrader> Take care all and see all tomorrow
[15:19:00] <werner> cya
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