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 Post Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 3:52 pm 
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[09:26:26] * Now talking in ##TheStrategyLab
[09:30:37] <wrbtrader> Short Squeeze
[09:31:24] <wrbtrader> Long Emini ES @ 3488.75 -> large size
[09:31:31] <wrbtrader> 10 contracts
[09:31:33] <Tigerman______> gm all
[09:32:22] <wrbtrader> Exited all Emini ES Long @ 3489.00 --> + 0.25
[09:32:27] <wrbtrader> punks :(
[09:33:27] <wrbtrader> will not chase this one up
[09:33:51] <wrbtrader> Must first make a new reaction high
[09:34:08] <wrbtrader> A lot of chop out of the gate
[09:34:17] <wrbtrader> meant a lot of bouncing around
[09:34:28] <Tigerman______> yeah I wait a better up push to re-enter long
[09:34:38] <wrbtrader> I thought it would be directional without the bouncing around
[09:35:48] <wrbtrader> Long Emini ES @ 3492.00 -> large size
[09:35:53] <wrbtrader> 10 contracts
[09:36:05] <wrbtrader> new reaction high
[09:37:46] <Tigerman______> NQ testing an area from yesterday sell off
[09:39:10] <Tigerman______> YM nolhelp righ now
[09:39:12] <wrbtrader> tough trade to hold
[09:39:59] <Tigerman______> yeah I usually get nervous fast in this situation
[09:41:47] <wrbtrader> Exited all Emini ES Long @ 3492.25 --> + 0.25
[09:42:02] <wrbtrader> geeesh :(
[09:42:33] <wrbtrader> trail picked as soon as I tighten it
[09:43:05] <wrbtrader> Shorts Emini ES @ 3491.00 -> large size
[09:43:10] <wrbtrader> 10 contracts
[09:43:10] <Tigerman______> wrbtrader.. is it difficult to you exit a portion at the first spike around 3493 and then trail the remainder?
[09:43:48] <Tigerman______> I mean if is it too fast or distracting exit with a profitable portion
[09:43:58] <Tigerman______> for you
[09:44:11] <Tigerman______> because I usually do this way
[09:44:18] <wrbtrader> Covered all Emini ES Short @ 3492.00 --> - 1
[09:44:25] <Tigerman______> it is very stresfull honestly
[09:44:39] <wrbtrader> Tigerman...I don't scale out in this type of market condition
[09:45:00] <wrbtrader> The volatility is just not stable
[09:46:09] <Tigerman______> ok.. I simly hate lo lose everything in a trade so a try hard to bring something home
[09:47:06] <Tigerman______> many time I get few ticks on first exit... then get larger profit on remainder
[09:47:08] <wrbtrader> As you know from the past...I love to scale out of my positions but the market condition has not been right for such since Trump took office...
[09:47:18] <wrbtrader> Price action just weird
[09:47:25] <wrbtrader> As in the volatility
[09:47:41] <Tigerman______> issue is... I use to exit larger portion on my first exit
[09:48:03] <Tigerman______> yeah price too weird and erratic
[09:48:10] <wrbtrader> Long Emini ES @ 3492.50 -> large size
[09:48:22] <wrbtrader> 10 contracts
[09:49:34] <wrbtrader> :(
[09:49:58] <wrbtrader> I'm looking for a Houdini Escape
[09:50:17] <Tigerman______> I entered few seconds ago at 3492.50
[09:50:41] <Tigerman______> exited a portion at 93.25
[09:50:45] <wrbtrader> Need a snapback up
[09:50:57] <wrbtrader> in reference to Emini NQ
[09:51:26] <Tigerman______> remainder @ 92.50.. it was my trail so my platform filled 1 tick lower so exited at breakeven :(
[09:52:37] <Tigerman______> wrbtrader today I read something about medalion fund by simmons
[09:53:31] <Tigerman______> read he has a win rate a little bit more the 50 %
[09:53:46] <Tigerman______> 50.75$ !!
[09:53:59] <Tigerman______> 50.75%
[09:54:12] <Tigerman______> manage that with a good risk/reward
[09:54:19] <wrbtrader> Exited all Emini ES Long @ 3490.50 --> - 2
[09:54:51] <Tigerman______> NQ push inside today gap
[09:55:16] <Tigerman______> NQ can develop a down trend at the end
[09:55:33] <wrbtrader> Shorts Emini ES @ 3490.25 -> large size
[09:55:36] <wrbtrader> 10 contracts
[09:55:50] <Tigerman______> RTY push higher instead
[09:56:35] <wrbtrader> Covered all Emini ES Short @ 3488.75 --> + 1.5
[09:56:45] <wrbtrader> still bouncing around
[10:00:21] <wrbtrader> Shorts Emini ES @ 3484.00 -> large size
[10:00:23] <wrbtrader> 10 contracts
[10:00:28] <wrbtrader> chasing
[10:01:20] <Tigerman______> btw VIX above 28
[10:02:20] <wrbtrader> Covered all Emini ES Short @ 3481.75 --> + 2.25
[10:04:17] <wrbtrader> That rolloever southward (failed Short Squeeze) around 3492.00 was one of the most difficult / bouncing price action I've seen in awhile
[10:04:39] <wrbtrader> tough to hold any trade in their Long or Short
[10:05:02] <wrbtrader> In contrast, Emini NQ was very stable pushing down
[10:05:59] <wrbtrader> Shorts Emini ES @ 3492.50 -> large size
[10:06:02] <wrbtrader> 10 contracts
[10:06:09] <wrbtrader> re-entry
[10:07:25] <wrbtrader> correction...
[10:07:46] <wrbtrader> Shorts Emini ES @ 3482.50 -> large size
[10:08:16] <wrbtrader> WRB pt1 reached
[10:09:05] <wrbtrader> Emini ES volatility smoother now like Emini NQ...better correlation
[10:09:59] <Tigerman______> all markets in sync after 9:55am
[10:10:40] <Tigerman______> fast volatility good x fast traders
[10:11:15] <wrbtrader> WRB pt2 reached
[10:11:35] <Tigerman______> good hang wrbtrader
[10:12:05] <wrbtrader> Covered all Emini ES Short @ 3471.00 --> + 11.5
[10:12:06] <Tigerman______> I did many trades instead all short
[10:12:22] <Tigerman______> I try hard hnag on more
[10:12:25] <Tigerman______> hang
[10:12:28] <wrbtrader> toughest group of trades I've had in a few weeks
[10:13:05] <Tigerman______> btw today in anniversary from black monday 1987
[10:13:12] <wrbtrader> Will review later tonight that rollover between 3492.50 - 3492.00
[10:13:21] <wrbtrader> It's stuck in my head now :(
[10:14:11] <wrbtrader> Its something the hindsight statis charts do not pick up on
[10:14:31] <wrbtrader> Reason why learning from hindsight charts is very problematic
[10:15:02] <wrbtrader> They just don't show chop / bouncing around like we've seen today in real-time real trading conditions
[10:15:26] <wrbtrader> At least on the 1min chart or higher
[10:15:46] <wrbtrader> Maybe the bouncing around would show up on charts less than 1min
[10:16:16] <Tigerman______> yep agreed to see that those fast movements you need see price ladder in real time or use tick -few seconds cjart
[10:45:26] <wrbtrader> Unusual down pressure right nwo
[10:45:57] <Tigerman______> yeah
[10:46:07] <Tigerman______> I m in safe mode to protect profit
[10:46:23] <Tigerman______> I wa tired to ruin everything after a good start
[10:46:26] <wrbtrader> Snapback Up
[10:46:59] <asuni> ES too filled the open gap
[10:47:23] <wrbtrader> Shorts Emini ES @ 3471.00 -> large size
[10:47:29] <wrbtrader> 10 contracts
[10:48:02] <wrbtrader> downside pressure returning
[10:48:16] <wrbtrader> Long Upper Shadow interval trying to form
[10:50:52] <wrbtrader> Covered all Emini ES Short @ 3469.00 --> + 2
[10:51:12] <wrbtrader> Geeesh...that's the most I've moved my trail stop
[10:51:21] <wrbtrader> I think 7x
[10:52:21] <Tigerman______> yep that the reason I alway fight with my stops
[10:52:54] <wrbtrader> That trail burnt me out a little :(
[10:53:02] <Tigerman______> too large and they snapback to it... too tight they get it almpst everytime
[10:57:11] <wrbtrader> I see why this is fighting hard via the regular session chart but not on the all session chart
[10:58:27] <wrbtrader> Long Emini ES @ 3471.25 -> large size
[10:58:37] <wrbtrader> 10 contracts
[11:00:08] <wrbtrader> Exited all Emini ES Long @ 3471.75 --> + 0.5
[11:00:19] <wrbtrader> trail stop picked
[11:00:48] <wrbtrader> grabbed it within seconds after I trailed it the first time :(
[11:01:49] <wrbtrader> Long Emini ES @ 3472.50 -> large size
[11:01:53] <wrbtrader> 10 contracts re-entry
[11:05:13] <wrbtrader> Exited all Emini ES Long @ 3473.00 --> + 0.5
[11:05:22] <wrbtrader> :(
[11:06:00] <wrbtrader> see no reason why its trying to pullback
[11:23:35] <Tigerman______> sh ES 3558.5
[11:23:45] <Tigerman______> tiny size in 2nd plat
[11:24:30] <Tigerman______> exit all @ 3558.25 +.25
[11:24:48] <Tigerman______> miss a good signal arond 3466
[11:25:02] <Tigerman______> simply I m updating my docs
[11:38:47] <Tigerman______> take care all see next time
[11:47:36] <wrbtrader> Its trying to do a Short Sqeeze
[11:47:59] <wrbtrader> Shorts Emini ES @ 3465.50 -> large size
[11:48:17] <wrbtrader> 10 contracts
[11:49:07] <wrbtrader> Covered Emini ES Short @ 3465.75 --> - 0.25
[11:49:07] <wrbtrader> Reverse and Enter Long Emini ES @ 3465.75
[11:50:27] <wrbtrader> Exit @ 3463.00
[11:50:39] <wrbtrader> -2.75
[11:51:06] <wrbtrader> still trying for that Short Squeeze
[11:52:11] <wrbtrader> Long Emini ES @ 3464.00 -> large size
[11:52:15] <wrbtrader> 10 contracts
[11:52:45] <wrbtrader> -3 points in the prior 2 trades...easily whipped around :(
[11:53:53] <wrbtrader> This has a chance to retest the 3470 price area if volatility shows up...right now...problematic again :(
[11:54:45] <wrbtrader> Exited all Emini ES Long @ 3463.00 --> - 1
[11:56:03] <wrbtrader> Long Emini ES @ 3464.00
[11:56:12] <wrbtrader> 10 contracts re-entry
[11:56:28] <wrbtrader> not giving up on this setup
[11:57:08] <wrbtrader> tough battle in this area
[11:57:29] <wrbtrader> Exited all Emini ES Long @ 3462.25 --> - 1.75
[11:58:23] <wrbtrader> Long Emini ES @ 3463.00 -> large size
[11:58:36] <wrbtrader> 10 contracts re-entry
[11:58:43] <wrbtrader> early entry
[11:58:59] <wrbtrader> NQ still not helping
[12:00:58] <wrbtrader> NQ trying to help but still no volatility showing up :(
[12:01:26] <wrbtrader> Exited all Emini ES Long @ 3462.00 --> - 1
[12:02:05] <wrbtrader> Shorts Emini ES @ 3461.25 -> large size
[12:02:13] <wrbtrader> 10 contracts
[12:02:16] <wrbtrader> intuition
[12:02:46] <wrbtrader> now expecting a volatility spike...there's too much contraction...setting up for a spike
[12:03:15] <wrbtrader> Covered all Emini ES Short @ 3462.00 --> - 0.75
[12:03:19] <wrbtrader> punks
[12:03:37] <wrbtrader> Long Emini ES @ 3464.00 -> large size
[12:03:47] <wrbtrader> 10 contracts intuition
[12:04:22] <asuni> u are in war :-)
[12:04:39] <wrbtrader> Now I need that 3470 to fix these recent group of trades
[12:05:12] <wrbtrader> This 3464.00 price area is sticky...tough to move away from
[12:05:31] <wrbtrader> Exited all Emini ES Long @ 3462.00 --> - 2
[12:06:51] <wrbtrader> Long Emini ES @ 3461.00 -> large size
[12:07:00] <wrbtrader> 10 contracts re-entry
[12:07:15] <wrbtrader> early entry befroe the 3464.00 level
[12:09:29] <wrbtrader> Exited all Emini ES Long @ 3464.50 --> + 3.5
[12:09:36] <wrbtrader> trail stop picked :(
[12:10:02] <wrbtrader> quicksand in this price area
[12:11:03] <wrbtrader> geeesh
[14:23:49] <wrbtrader> Shorts Emini ES @ 3451.00 -> large size
[14:23:59] <wrbtrader> 10 contracts
[14:24:10] <wrbtrader> :(
[14:24:28] <wrbtrader> Covered all Emini ES Short @ 3451.25 --> - 0.25
[14:24:47] <wrbtrader> Long Emini ES @ 3451.50 -> large size
[14:24:55] <wrbtrader> 10 contracts
[14:26:28] <wrbtrader> Exited all Emini ES Long @ 3451.00 --> - 0.5
[14:28:46] <wrbtrader> Long Emini ES @ 3450.50 -> large size
[14:28:52] <wrbtrader> 10 contracts re-entry...trading a little scared here in this price area
[14:29:23] <wrbtrader> because I still remember an early price area I got caught within
[14:29:44] <wrbtrader> that 3464.00 price area
[14:30:02] <wrbtrader> more contraction in the volatility now showing up
[14:30:29] <wrbtrader> Exited all Emini ES Long @ 3449.00 --> - 1.5
[14:31:01] <wrbtrader> S area broken
[14:31:36] <wrbtrader> Shorts Emini ES @ 3448.50 -> large size
[14:31:42] <wrbtrader> 10 contracts
[14:33:49] <wrbtrader> WRB pt1 reached
[14:34:06] <wrbtrader> WRB pt2 reached
[14:37:27] <wrbtrader> WRB pt3 reached...didn't expect that to happen...volatility showed up out of nowhere
[14:38:47] <wrbtrader> Covered all Emini ES Short @ 3436.75 --> + 11.75
[14:39:21] <wrbtrader> VIX still in the 28 range
[14:51:22] <wrbtrader> Twice I almost gave up on this price action today after a series of crappy trades
[14:51:50] <wrbtrader> Each time...soon afterwards...volatility came out of nowhere to give me a big winner
[15:01:10] <wrbtrader> Shorts Emini ES @ 3421.25 -> large size
[15:01:21] <wrbtrader> 10 contracts intuition
[15:02:16] <wrbtrader> WRB pt1 reached
[15:02:19] <wrbtrader> Covered all Emini ES Short @ 3417.00 --> + 4.25
[15:03:58] <wrbtrader> All of this down pressure in the markets is due to Pelosi giving the White House a 48 hours deadline on a Coronavirus Stimulus Deal
[15:05:03] <wrbtrader> https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/18/stock-m ... -news.html
[15:16:58] <wrbtrader> Shorts Emini ES @ 3420.50 -> large size
[15:17:11] <wrbtrader> 10 contracts poor entry
[15:18:02] <wrbtrader> Covered all Emini ES Short @ 3421.25 --> - 0.75
[15:18:15] <wrbtrader> Shorts Emini ES @ 3420.75 -> large size
[15:18:31] <wrbtrader> 10 contracts re-entry
[15:19:05] <wrbtrader> WRB pt1 reached
[15:23:30] <wrbtrader> another battle area has developed :(
[15:28:52] <wrbtrader> Covered all Emini ES Short @ 3419.75 --> + 1
[15:29:00] <wrbtrader> trail stop picked
[15:29:40] <wrbtrader> Long Emini ES @ 3419.00 -> large size
[15:29:48] <wrbtrader> 10 contracts
[15:30:04] <wrbtrader> another poor entry
[15:30:18] <wrbtrader> should have position reverse the prior Short
[15:32:05] <wrbtrader> WRB pt1 reached
[15:32:22] <wrbtrader> Got greedy in the prior trade and didn't take that WRB pt1
[15:32:29] <wrbtrader> decision time here for me
[15:35:47] <wrbtrader> perfect time for a snapback up
[15:36:04] <wrbtrader> it just needs a little volatility
[15:41:52] <wrbtrader> Exited all Emini ES Long @ 3424.00 --> + 5
[15:42:18] <wrbtrader> still a WRB pt1 exit
[15:43:34] <wrbtrader> Shorts Emini ES @ 3423.00 -> large size
[15:43:39] <wrbtrader> 10 contracts
[15:45:09] <wrbtrader> Covered all Emini ES Short @ 3422.50 --> + 0.5
[15:45:22] <wrbtrader> trail stop killed
[15:47:37] <wrbtrader> Shorts Emini ES @ 3422.00 -> large size
[15:47:46] <wrbtrader> 10 contracts
[15:48:09] <wrbtrader> Covered all Emini ES Short @ 3421.50 --> + 0.5
[15:49:28] <wrbtrader> Shorts Emini ES @ 3421.25 -> large size
[15:49:40] <wrbtrader> 10 contracts intuition
[15:50:19] <wrbtrader> geeesh
[15:50:25] <wrbtrader> bouncing around
[15:51:17] <wrbtrader> Similar trade i took before when I got greedy and lost my WRB pt1
[15:51:31] <wrbtrader> WRB pt1 reached
[15:53:00] <wrbtrader> rolled the dice again...holding on again for a possible WRB p2 or reaction low
[15:54:56] <wrbtrader> reaction low
[15:57:22] <wrbtrader> Covered all Emini ES Short @ 3414.25 --> + 7
[15:57:28] <wrbtrader> punks
[15:57:41] <wrbtrader> trail stop picked
[15:58:00] <wrbtrader> Hell of a fight today
[15:58:08] <wrbtrader> Take care all and see you tomorrow
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