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click on the above image to view today's price action of key markets [09:31:49] * Now talking in ##TheStrategyLab
[09:31:51] ##TheStrategyLab url is
http://www.thestrategylab.com/tsl/forum/[09:34:04] <Trendtrader> exit nq long avg profit +5pts
[09:36:56] <Trendtrader> long 6661.25 nq
[09:37:44] <Trendtrader> exit nq 6667 +5.75
[09:38:11] <wrbtrader> Shorts Emini ES @ 2662.50 -> large size
[09:38:19] <wrbtrader> 10 contracts
[09:38:24] <Trendtrader> really crazy open.
[09:39:26] <wrbtrader> Covered all Emini ES Short @ 2661.00 --> + 1.5
[09:40:34] <wrbtrader> Shorts Emini ES @ 2660.00 -> large size
[09:40:42] <wrbtrader> 10 contracts re-entry
[09:40:47] <wrbtrader> intuition
[09:41:04] <Tigerman______> sh ES 2659
[09:41:13] <Tigerman______> vola increase
[09:41:52] <wrbtrader> Covered all Emini ES Short @ 2558.00 --> + 102
[09:42:02] <wrbtrader> correction
[09:42:16] <wrbtrader> Covered all Emini ES Short @ 2658.00 --> + 2
[09:42:43] <Tigerman______> exit 2/3 @ 56.50 +2.5pt
[09:43:33] <Tigerman______> exit 1/3 @ 58 +1 p
[09:43:38] <wrbtrader> Shorts Emini ES @ 2657.75 -> large size
[09:43:47] <wrbtrader> 10 contracts re-entry
[09:44:49] <wrbtrader> Covered all Emini ES Short @ 2658.50 --> - 0.75
[09:45:18] <Tigerman______> can be good another short if price back to 2657 ES
[09:48:08] <wrbtrader> Long Emini ES @ 2660.50 -> large size
[09:48:15] <wrbtrader> 10 contracts
[09:48:44] <wrbtrader> Exited all Emini ES Long @ 2663.25 --> + 2.75
[09:49:07] <wrbtrader> WRB pt1 reached
[09:49:46] <wrbtrader> Long Emini ES @ 2662.75 -> large size
[09:49:51] <wrbtrader> 10 contracts
[09:50:01] <wrbtrader> poor entry
[09:50:10] <Tigerman______> lg 62.25
[09:50:44] <wrbtrader> Exited all Emini ES Long @ 2660.50 --> - 2.25
[09:51:04] <Tigerman______> exit @ 60 -2.25
[09:52:25] <wrbtrader> The fast price action has obviously returned...that same October like and early November price action speed
[09:52:44] <Tigerman______> lg ES 60.75
[09:53:48] <Tigerman______> exit all @ 61.50 +0.75
[09:54:43] <Tigerman______> lg es 2662
[09:55:48] <Tigerman______> exit all @ 62.25 + 0.25
[09:56:00] <Tigerman______> confusing vola
[10:03:33] <wrbtrader> Speed of the price action slowing dlown
[10:03:42] <wrbtrader> reverting back to normal
[10:04:00] <wrbtrader> That's the problem...we do not know when that speed will return
[10:04:24] <wrbtrader> Hopefully NOT entry in a trade
[10:04:26] <Tigerman______> yeah seems they wait us around the corner
[10:04:47] <wrbtrader> Preferrably "before" entry so that I can change my stop management
[10:06:08] <Tigerman______> lg es 6550
[10:07:31] <Tigerman______> 2665.50
[10:09:24] <Tigerman______> exit all @ 2668 +2.5
[10:09:38] <wrbtrader> Long Emini ES @ 2668.00 -> large size
[10:10:41] <wrbtrader> Exited all Emini ES Long @ 2670.00 --> + 2
[10:10:59] <wrbtrader> man it moved fast "after" entry...scary fast
[10:12:06] <Tigerman______> lg 2670
[10:12:25] <wrbtrader> The speed of the price action is probably the scariest thing I've seen in about 15 years
[10:12:51] <wrbtrader> I'm still trying to learn from October's volatility surge
[10:13:08] <wrbtrader> Its not just the surge in volatility...its the speed of it out of nowhere
[10:13:27] <wrbtrader> That has to have something to do with "ALGOs"
[10:14:48] <Tigerman______> exit all @ 2675 +5pt
[10:15:49] <Tigerman______> Wrbtrader... yeah Algos it is a fight against them
[10:16:16] <Tigerman______> human at disvantage most trades are via collocated server
[10:16:39] <Tigerman______> ton of trades in few milliseconds
[10:17:10] <wrbtrader> The first thing I think about when I realize I'm having problems with this "speed of the price action"...
[10:17:15] <wrbtrader> Lower position size
[10:17:34] <wrbtrader> I'm dropping down to small size only for the remainder of the trading day
[10:18:05] <wrbtrader> October taught me that it lasts all day...disappears and then shows up again like a cat & mouse game
[10:18:40] <wrbtrader> Shorts Emini ES @ 2673.25 -> small size
[10:18:43] <Tigerman______> yeah interesting is we document days like this...why only in some days
[10:18:48] <wrbtrader> 3 contrast
[10:18:54] <wrbtrader> countertrend trade
[10:19:39] <wrbtrader> Covered all Emini ES Short @ 2672.00 --> + 1.25
[10:20:44] <wrbtrader> Shorts Emini ES @ 2672.50 -> small size
[10:20:53] <wrbtrader> 3 contracts re-entry
[10:23:15] <wrbtrader> Covered all Emini ES Short @ 2672.00 --> + 0.5
[10:25:38] <wrbtrader> I wouldn't be surprise early next year we hear about several arrests involving "illegal algorithm trading" about October & November 2018 after so much consistent stranger fast price action out of nowhere
[10:26:33] <wrbtrader> Shorts Emini ES @ 2671.00 -> small size
[10:26:42] <wrbtrader> 3 contracts
[10:26:54] <wrbtrader> WRB pt1 reached
[10:27:03] <wrbtrader> still countertrend trading
[10:28:26] <wrbtrader> Covered all Emini ES Short @ 2669.75 --> + 1.25
[10:29:03] <Tigerman______> wrbtrader... plus the Fact tiny liquidity at first book level in ES
[10:29:21] <Tigerman______> that help Algos do many triks
[10:29:27] <wrbtrader> Feels like I'm juggling grenades even with small position size
[10:30:01] <wrbtrader> Tigerman...how can you determine the liquidity
??
[10:30:18] <wrbtrader> If I take a peak at the DOM...looks normal to me for Emini ES futures
[10:30:44] <wrbtrader> maybe because I'm not a DOM trader...
[10:30:58] <wrbtrader> Thus, I'm not able to recognize any liquidity problems
[10:31:21] <Tigerman______> as you know I look Dom from long time
[10:31:44] <Tigerman______> simply first levels of book used be 200 400 pz years ago
[10:32:30] <Tigerman______> these days average 30-40 with 150 peak and low as 5pz !!
[10:32:40] <wrbtrader> Ahhh...ok
[10:33:09] <Tigerman______> that cause us not propel feel when in hurry
[10:34:50] <wrbtrader> Its like as if you're also saying that ALGOs have become better at what they do via using "smaller size trades"
[10:37:15] <wrbtrader> Shorts Emini ES @ 2666.50 -> small size
[10:37:22] <wrbtrader> 3 contracts
[10:38:20] <wrbtrader> Covered all Emini ES Short @ 2665.50 --> + 1
[10:41:25] <Tigerman______> sh es 6550
[10:42:19] <wrbtrader> Shorts Emini ES @ 2665.00 -> small size
[10:42:26] <wrbtrader> 2 contracts
[10:42:42] <Tigerman______> exit 2/3 64.75 +0.75
[10:43:13] <wrbtrader> trail tighten
[10:43:31] <wrbtrader> Covered all Emini ES Short @ 2665.75 --> - 0.75
[10:43:55] <Tigerman______> exit 1/3 @ 65.25 +0.25
[10:44:31] <wrbtrader> Long Emini ES @ 2666.75 -> small size
[10:44:37] <wrbtrader> 2 contracts
[10:46:32] <wrbtrader> Exited all Emini ES Long @ 2667.75 --> + 1
[10:46:39] <wrbtrader> small WRB pt1 reached
[10:48:16] <wrbtrader> Long Emini ES @ 2670.00 -> small size
[10:48:23] <wrbtrader> 2 contracts
[10:50:24] <wrbtrader> Exited all Emini ES Long @ 2671.25 --> + 1.25
[11:01:32] <wrbtrader> Shorts Emini ES @ 2673.00 -> small size
[11:01:40] <wrbtrader> 3 contracts
[11:02:58] <wrbtrader> now I see the error
[11:03:13] <wrbtrader> Covered all Emini ES Short @ 2675.00 --> - 2
[11:03:37] <wrbtrader> too late to get going in the right direction
[11:04:13] <wrbtrader> Long Shadow intervals can get tricky
[11:07:14] <wrbtrader> Emini ES retested the range of a prior Long Upper Shadow interval from the overnight trading session
[11:07:51] <wrbtrader> Its a wall with clear s/r levels
[11:16:49] <wrbtrader> Shorts Emini ES @ 2674.25 -> small size
[11:16:52] <wrbtrader> 3 contracts
[11:18:41] <wrbtrader>
[11:20:07] <wrbtrader> too much contraction in the volatility
[11:21:02] <wrbtrader> this is when that weird fast price action has been showing up...after choppy contracted price action
[11:21:10] <wrbtrader> tightning trail stop
[11:23:00] <wrbtrader> Covered all Emini ES Short @ 2674.25 --> 0
[11:23:06] <wrbtrader>
[11:26:03] <wrbtrader> Long Emini ES @ 2672.50 -> small size
[11:26:12] <wrbtrader> 3 contracts
[11:29:13] <wrbtrader> Exited all Emini ES Long @ 2674.00 --> + 1.5
[11:46:24] <wrbtrader> Shorts Emini ES @ 2669.75 -> small size
[11:46:31] <wrbtrader> 3 contracts
[11:46:34] <wrbtrader>
[11:49:00] <wrbtrader> Covered all Emini ES Short @ 2672.00 --> - 2.25
[11:50:19] <wrbtrader> Long Emini ES @ 2671.25 -> small size
[11:50:28] <wrbtrader> 3 contracts
[11:50:31] <wrbtrader> intuition
[11:52:46] <wrbtrader> Exited all Emini ES Long @ 2674.00 --> + 2.75
[11:58:49] <wrbtrader> I'm calling it quits here...did a lot of countertrend trades today on the lower time frame
[11:59:20] <wrbtrader> It helped a little and less stressful but maybe due to the lower position size
[11:59:32] <wrbtrader> Take care all and see all tomorrow
[12:03:07] <Tigerman______> take care wrbtrader.. I m going exit too just finishing my docs for today
[13:09:45] <Tigerman______> OK just finish updated my docs x today it is a Big Job need rethinking that
[13:09:50] <Tigerman______> take care all see next time
Session Close
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