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click on the above image to view today's price action of key marketsSession Start: Fri Feb 25 09:06:23 2011
Session Ident: #FuturesTrades
[09:06:23] * Now talking in #FuturesTrades
[09:06:23] <@X> [NihabaAshi] chat room archives @
viewforum.php?f=20[09:27:02] <pat255>
[09:27:47] <+pat255>
N I checked your link on the charts ...U had 2 charts on Er what tf were the charts 5m?
[09:29:13] <drt>
everyone
[09:30:07] <JB>
[09:32:15] <@wrbtrader> The minute interval is shown in the lower right of the charts
[09:32:31] <+pat255> k ty
[09:32:40] <@wrbtrader> I didn't have time to post a chart for today...was lazy this morning
[09:33:07] <+pat255> np
[09:34:48] <Trendtrader> Long TF @ 808.2 «« simulator »»
[09:35:15] <+Trendtrader> Exited 1/2 TF Long @ 809.2 --> + 1 «« simulator »»
[09:37:02] <+Trendtrader> Exited Remainder TF Long @ 809.6 --> + 1.4 «« simulator »»
[09:41:27] <+JB> short ES @ 1313
[09:42:11] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[09:42:53] <+pat255> Consumer Sentiment 9:55 AM ET
[09:44:13] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 808.50 -> large size
[09:46:20] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 809.00 --> - 0.5
[09:46:59] <@wrbtrader> 6 contracts
[09:47:28] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 808.60 -> large size
[09:47:52] <@wrbtrader> intuition in reaction to the "pick pocketed" stop out of the prior trade
[09:55:33] <Sidhartha> consumer sentiment... 1 min
[09:55:49] <@wrbtrader> tight trail
[09:56:38] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 808.30 --> + 0.3
[10:04:06] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 810.00 -> large size
[10:04:24] <+JB> Long ES 1316
[10:04:25] <@wrbtrader> intuition
[10:04:32] <@wrbtrader> 6 contracts
[10:04:48] <@wrbtrader> rising creeper price action...tough to think about shorting
[10:05:12] <@wrbtrader> volatility expanding now
[10:06:23] <+Sidhartha> good day for intuition... I haven't seen much else yet
[10:07:10] <@wrbtrader> Had I did it correctly...I should have enter a Long around 808.50 when I cover that prior short @ 808.30
[10:07:29] <@wrbtrader> tight stop
[10:07:37] <@wrbtrader> I may get disconnected...
[10:07:46] <@wrbtrader> just got a ping warning
[10:09:42] <@wrbtrader> Exited 2/3 Emini TF Long @ 812.70 --> + 2.7
[10:09:51] <+pat255> vvn
[10:10:28] <codehead> NQ hit .500 bounce
[10:10:45] <+JB> reversing ES and going short @ 1316.75
[10:20:47] <@wrbtrader> tighten trail
[10:23:50] <@wrbtrader> I'm looking to add if I get a valid trade signal
[10:26:47] <@wrbtrader> On the 5min chart regular session...this is just "continuation" price action since 2pm est
[10:35:58] * Thaiba_ is now known as Thaiba
[10:37:09] <@wrbtrader> Looking to add
[10:38:21] <@wrbtrader>
[10:39:16] <+JB> I'm long at ES it looks an up day today so far...
[10:39:56] <@wrbtrader> If I don't have a valid trade signal via technical analysis...
[10:40:14] <@wrbtrader> I will open a trade if my market experience (intuition) kicks in.
[10:40:37] <@wrbtrader> However, when it comes to ADDING to an open position...I MUST have a valid trade signal for such.
[10:40:53] <@wrbtrader> I do not ADD via market experience (intuition).
[10:41:28] <@wrbtrader> I use to have a ton of discipline problems with ADDs many years ago
[10:41:40] <+JB> I guess that all depends on the technical signals that you have.
[10:41:45] <Time4now> large opening gap is taking out volatility
[10:42:55] <@wrbtrader> Low volatility creeper rising price action trying hard to develop
[10:46:09] <+Sidhartha> yeah volatility died briefly
[10:46:11] <+JB> are looking at VIX for the volatility?
[10:47:38] <+Sidhartha> just the size of the bodies
[10:48:12] <+JB> minute charts or tick charts?
[10:49:37] <+codehead> 2348.00 is NQ symmetry
[10:53:08] <@wrbtrader> Exited Remainder Emini TF Long @ 814.00 --> + 4
[10:53:17] <+pat255> vn N
[10:53:25] <@wrbtrader> thanks
[10:55:37] <@wrbtrader> As usual...when I reach my profit goal of the day...
[10:56:06] <@wrbtrader> I go into "profit protection mode" via trading 1 - 2 contracts only for the remainder of the day.
[10:56:44] <donaldT44> wrbtrader ur indicators avilable on ninjatrader 7?
[11:08:13] <+Sidhartha> he doesn't use indicators
[11:08:26] <+donaldT44> sorry i'm new what is his method
[11:09:11] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[11:09:20] <+Sidhartha> check his website...
[11:09:22] <+Sidhartha>
http://www.thestrategylab.com/[11:17:09] <Twin> trying limit short 816.3
[11:19:43] <+Twin> stopped +.1 , rats
[11:20:36] <+JB> a method that I like is this one:
www.emini-watch.com[11:20:38] <+Twin> trying again 815.9
[11:20:41] <+JB> good ideas
[11:20:56] <+Twin> i think its going 813.7
[11:23:32] <+Twin> ive been trading TF for maybe 10 mkt days, limit orders are really hard, it gets going with momentum and goes deep into support (or resistance)
[11:25:43] <+Twin> so woodies methods which are all mkt orders are maybe wise?
[11:26:33] <@wrbtrader> Twin...you said "it goes DEEP into support/resistance".
[11:27:06] <@wrbtrader> If such is occurring more often than not...that implies you should be using different s/r levels.
[11:27:23] <+Twin> i put cover @ 813.9 and it just filled (I think, it wipped around so much I thought maybe it hit my stop)
[11:27:52] <+Twin> ya, it does, and I should, im trying to compensate
[11:28:39] <+Twin> see, though I got 15.9 right and 13.7 right as well, so im close, just have to adjust a little
[11:30:46] <+Twin> ive noticed if you have the volume@price vertical histogram (like market profile) up it helps a lot, the price action doesn't perfectly define the support and resist, its where the vol is
[11:31:53] <+Twin> DEEP meaning 1 pt usually (which with tight stops will kill you)
[11:35:18] <+Twin> trying limit short 814.8
[11:35:35] <+Twin> i think it will consolidate lower for several hrs from here
[11:41:06] <+Twin> its so nice to make pts on TF, there was a (sim) trading competition where you could trade 2ctrcts of each of ES,NQ,TF. I got the signals off ES and at the end of the day over half the profits came from TF.
[11:41:49] <@wrbtrader> Trading Competition...was the reward CASH
??
[11:42:06] <+Twin> it was a goofy thing , like a 'kindle'
[11:42:29] <+JB> which instrument do you prefer, ES, NQ or TF?
[11:42:35] <+Twin> they stopped it , apparently they didn't want to give away more kindles
[11:42:44] <@wrbtrader>
[11:43:26] <@wrbtrader> Well...if you ever hear about any "trading competition" for the Emini TF where the CASH REWARD is > $20,000
[11:43:31] <@wrbtrader> Please let me know
[11:43:42] <+Twin> i will
[11:46:30] <+Twin> hmm, i didn't think it would go so fast,
[11:46:51] <@wrbtrader> We got increasing volatility in Emini TF
[11:48:15] <+Twin> i put in lowball bid limit 808.8
[11:49:31] <+Twin> @JB , im new to TF, so not sure yet. I like the ones with clean signals, NQ is better than ES signalwise
[11:52:45] <+JB> ES has strong pullbacks
[11:52:50] <+JB> but I like the speed of ES
[11:53:36] <+Twin> i don't like ES , (a bunch of thugs ,in chicago pit that actively try to run your stops)
[11:53:58] <+JB>
[11:54:16] <+donaldT44> listen to Ben from tradersaudio he calls those thugs out all the time
[11:54:32] <+Twin> i am long ES now though
for swing
[11:54:45] <+Twin> thx
[12:02:13] <+Twin> short 812.3
[12:04:05] <+Twin> trying to scratch it
[12:04:23] <+Twin> oops stopped -.6
[12:39:12] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[13:16:43] <@wrbtrader> Just got back...
[13:17:03] <@wrbtrader> Hope someone has been going Long since 1150pm est
[13:21:03] <+Sidhartha> long but lacking patience!
[13:43:55] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 818.20 -> small size
[13:44:01] <@wrbtrader> 1 contract
[13:44:25] <@wrbtrader> chasing...got my intervals mixed up
[13:49:29] <@wrbtrader> Exited Emini TF Long @ 818.30 --> + 0.1
[13:54:10] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 818.30 -> small size
[13:54:16] <@wrbtrader> 1 contract
[13:54:34] <@wrbtrader> intuition in reaction to prior trade "pick pocketed".
[13:57:19] <@wrbtrader> Exited Emini TF Long @ 817.90 --> - 0.4
[14:05:40] <+Twin> i shorted TF 818.8, holding
[14:06:12] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[14:06:13] <+Twin> 15.3, 14.3
cover tgt
[14:08:41] <+Twin> maybe 16.6
[14:08:55] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 817.10 -> small size
[14:08:59] <@wrbtrader> 2 contracts
[14:09:06] <@wrbtrader> volatility increasing
[14:09:55] <+Twin> i think its goigin 16.6 again
[14:10:15] <@wrbtrader> spike down in Oil
[14:10:33] <+Twin> its not doing what the pattern says it should do,
[14:10:45] <+Twin> stopped out +.1
[14:12:09] <+Twin> that was news?
[14:12:29] <+Twin> hate it, news should be
[14:12:34] <+Twin>
[14:16:03] <+Twin> wrbtrader u did amazing
[14:18:33] <@wrbtrader> only one big winner today...everything else has not been much (up or down).
[14:18:45] <@wrbtrader> Hopefully the current open position turns into a big winner.
[14:18:50] <+Twin> thats enough
[14:19:06] <@wrbtrader> Yeah...one big winner per day adds up fast.
[14:21:21] <@wrbtrader> tighten trail
[14:21:28] <@wrbtrader> @ profit
[14:24:11] <+Sidhartha> The weekends beginning here in London! Goodnight all. Have a good weekend.
[14:24:49] <+codehead> cya
[14:30:23] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 817.30 --> + 0.2
[15:36:13] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[15:39:08] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 819.30 -> small size
[15:39:16] <@wrbtrader> 2 contracts
[15:53:11] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 819.50 --> + 0.2
[15:53:31] <@wrbtrader> geeesh
[15:56:59] <@wrbtrader> My last 4 trades were "pick pocketed"...
[15:57:14] <@wrbtrader> Takes my stop and suddenly moved back higher
[16:00:32] <@wrbtrader> Take care everybody and have a good weekend
[16:00:39] * wrbtrader is now known as wrbtrader_away
[16:26:50] <+codehead> cya
[16:37:12] <+Twin> GN
[17:06:13] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
Session Close: Fri Feb 25 17:21:44 2011
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