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Session Start: Wed Dec 08 07:55:07 2010
Session Ident: #FuturesTrades
[07:55:07] * Now talking in #FuturesTrades
[07:55:07] <@X> [NihabaAshi] chat room archives @
viewforum.php?f=20[08:11:03] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[08:46:36] <curious1> hello there
[08:46:45] <+curious1> cheers
[08:47:48] <+curious1> i have a question if anyone may be able to help please?
[08:48:18] <pat255>
all
[08:48:20] <+curious1> i am looking for tick data for the dow futs. on sept 3rd this yr
[08:48:21] <+pat255> go ahead
[08:48:33] <inertia> good morning
[08:48:36] <+curious1> just after the data was released
[08:48:56] <+pat255> hmm sorry no idea
[08:48:58] <+curious1> any idea were i may be able to find this?
[08:49:15] <+curious1> thanx pat:)
[08:49:21] <+inertia> see pm
[08:49:26] <+pat255> we DT here noone cares that far back ...
[08:49:51] <+curious1> lol pat
[08:50:07] <+pat255> sorry that is how I look at it
[08:51:04] <+inertia> actually historical data is very useful
[08:51:22] <+inertia> i have data going back to 2008 and i use it for SIM
[08:52:40] <+pat255> k ..
[08:52:41] <+inertia> you'll b surprised to c patterns repeat themselces over time
[08:52:49] <+pat255> that is very true
[08:53:44] <+inertia> look at Mark. he keeps videos of his trading. I am sure he is not doing this for fun. there is a practical use for any data collection
[08:54:17] <+inertia> google comes to mind
[08:54:32] <+inertia> they probably know more about u than u
[08:54:43] <+pat255> y who is mark?
[08:54:54] <+inertia> WRB
[08:55:07] <+pat255> u mean wrbtrader?
[08:55:19] <+inertia> I like to call people by their name if I know their name
[08:55:28] <+pat255> k ...
[08:55:30] <+pat255> sorry
[08:55:38] <+inertia> no prob
[08:55:41] <+pat255> did not know his name is mark
[08:55:49] <+inertia> it's on his site
[08:56:02] <+pat255> k I need to write journal ..
[08:56:18] <+pat255> I wil check his site this wekend
[09:23:25] <@wrbtrader> Good morning all
[09:23:46] <+pat255>
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[09:23:55] <Trendtrader>
[09:25:41] <@wrbtrader> Trendtrader...several years ago I stop posting COLOR chat logs as they are shown in here because it was too much work.
[09:25:57] <@wrbtrader> Thus, I started just posting "plain text" chat logs as you see today.
[09:26:39] <+Trendtrader> Is it possible for my to do it on my own personal logs? If so how would I do that?
[09:27:02] <@wrbtrader> There's a way "very complicated" of converting "IRC plain text" into the color logs but it's very difficult and you have to save it as "html only"
[09:27:48] <@wrbtrader> You can google chat log to html converter but the codes aren't explained on how to use.
[09:28:10] <@wrbtrader> However, if you search hard you may find a website like this one @
http://www.jwz.org/hacks/irc2html.cgi[09:28:26] <@wrbtrader> It does it for you but it too has it's own problems
[09:28:59] <+Trendtrader> That's all I need - a starting point. Thanks!
[09:29:10] <drt>
all
[09:33:53] <@wrbtrader> My charts are no longer loading
[09:34:06] <@wrbtrader> However, I have a good memory of what they looked like before the problem...
[09:34:24] <@wrbtrader> Will just use the broker data quotes to trade until my charts reboot themselves
[09:34:51] <@wrbtrader> Long ES @ 1226.75 -> medium size
[09:34:58] <@wrbtrader> 4 only
[09:35:06] <+Trendtrader> Long NQ @ 2200
[09:35:50] <+Trendtrader> Exited all NQ Long @ 2197.50 --> - 2.5
[09:38:26] <@wrbtrader> Exited all ES Long @ 1226.50 --> - 0.25
[09:41:04] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[09:44:17] <@wrbtrader> Long ES @ 1228.00 -> medium size
[09:44:23] <@wrbtrader> 4 only
[09:45:17] <@wrbtrader> Exited all ES Long @ 1228.50 --> + 0.5
[09:45:46] <@wrbtrader> Ok...charts are starting to reload...got my charts back
[09:47:53] <+Trendtrader> Shorts NQ @ 2199.75
[09:48:34] <@wrbtrader> The price area of yesterday's late afternoon price drop is acting as a key change in supply/demand today
[09:48:46] <@wrbtrader> lots of trades occuring in this area
[09:50:10] <+Trendtrader> Covered all NQ Short @ 2199 --> + 0.75
[09:50:45] <@wrbtrader> Shorts ES @ 1227.50 -> medium size
[09:50:55] <@wrbtrader> 4 contracts
[09:53:31] <@wrbtrader> Covered all ES Short @ 1226.00 --> + 1.5
[09:54:11] <+pat255> vn
[09:54:37] <@wrbtrader> need to keep this profit...
[09:54:52] <@wrbtrader> yesterday I gave most of it away in the afternoon trading session
[10:07:15] <@wrbtrader> Long ES @ 1224.75 -> small size
[10:07:24] <@wrbtrader> 3 contracts
[10:09:54] <+inertia> Mark I looked up the fee increases in ICE, it seems that the fees increased only by a few cents per trade and trading volume increased 26% last month compared with the previous month(for TF) I still don't understand the reason that you switched to ES...
[10:09:57] <@wrbtrader> Exited all ES Long @ 1224.00 --> - 0.75
[10:10:18] <@wrbtrader> Shorts ES @ 1224.25 -> medium size
[10:10:27] <@wrbtrader> 4 contracts
[10:11:55] <@wrbtrader> nasty rollover that took me out of that Long...didn't want to hang around and let the stop/loss get hit for a bigger loss
[10:13:14] <+pat255> l are suspicious ..
[10:13:36] <+pat255> S 1224 es
[10:13:45] <@wrbtrader> getting choppy
[10:13:57] <@wrbtrader> volatility contracting too in the chop
[10:13:57] <+pat255> should have waited
[10:14:01] <@wrbtrader> that's not good
[10:14:03] <+pat255> for a pb
[10:14:25] <+pat255> out 2 ticks
[10:14:30] <@wrbtrader> Covered all ES Short @ 1224.50 --> - 0.25
[10:14:30] <+pat255> -2 ticks
[10:18:09] <@wrbtrader> Shorts ES @ 1224.25 -> medium size
[10:18:24] <@wrbtrader> 4 contracts
[10:18:36] <@wrbtrader> still heading down but the chop is a killer
[10:19:43] <+pat255> missed Es entry on s sdie
[10:20:20] <@wrbtrader> pre reaction to the pending EIA Petroleum Status report
[10:21:29] <@wrbtrader> Covered all ES Short @ 1222.00 --> + 2.25
[10:22:08] <+pat255> vn
[10:24:10] <@wrbtrader> volatility contracting while new support is developing
[10:33:40] <@wrbtrader> Long ES @ 1222.50 -> small size
[10:33:47] <@wrbtrader> 2 contracts
[10:34:52] <@wrbtrader> Exited all ES Long @ 1221.75 --> - 0.75
[10:35:38] <@wrbtrader> Shorts ES @ 1221.00 -> small size
[10:35:49] <@wrbtrader> 2 contracts
[10:35:53] <@wrbtrader> support failure
[10:38:36] <@wrbtrader> Covered all ES Short @ 1220.00 --> + 1
[10:42:39] <@wrbtrader> Don't forget the Eurex BUND rollover and tomorrow is rollover for Emini Futures and EuroFX futures
[10:42:53] <+pat255> y big rollover
[10:42:57] <@wrbtrader> to the H contract
[10:43:33] <+pat255> y think so
[10:50:52] <@wrbtrader> Although there was a gap up today at the open...price action has now developed into a price continuation decline since late afternoon yesterday
[10:56:04] <+pat255> y
[10:59:04] <Sidhartha> so you wouldn't consider that gap, or the overnight rally a change of trend wrbtrader...
[11:00:39] <@wrbtrader> If I was trading in the overnight trading session I would have consider it a "rally".
[11:01:04] <+Sidhartha> so how would you define a trend change out of interest...
[11:01:22] <@wrbtrader> However, I'm trading the regular hour session and the gap retraced when other key markets stalled and retraced too
[11:02:03] <@wrbtrader> Trend change is too general.
[11:02:43] <@wrbtrader> If you're asking about "involvement of gaps"...
[11:03:10] <@wrbtrader> If something gaps UP...and then it retraces and the gap fills and continues lower...
[11:03:11] <+Sidhartha> ok. lets say, given that you are a short term trader, I guess the most important current trend for you is that in say the 1 or 2 min... is that fair?
[11:03:20] <@wrbtrader> I'll consider that a "trend change"
[11:03:44] <@wrbtrader> No...not fair
[11:03:55] <@wrbtrader> I have 1min, 2min, 3min and 5min charts up today.
[11:04:00] <+Sidhartha> ok
[11:04:06] <@wrbtrader> Most of my trades have been via the 3min and 5min today
[11:04:37] <+Sidhartha> my point is, lets say we are in a downtrend in 5 min... you could still take a long in 1min and benefit from a short term rally in 1 min....
[11:04:55] <@wrbtrader> Yeah...sure.
[11:05:24] <+Sidhartha> it's obviously possible to be a downtrend in 5 min but an uptrend in 1 min... I guess it depends how you define a trend in each of the various time frames...
[11:05:46] <+Sidhartha> that's what I'm trying to get at... how would you define a trend if I showed you a price chart...
[11:06:31] <@wrbtrader> I try very hard not to get my "big picture" analysis mixed up with my trades unless I'm trying to capture a very big profit which most of the time I am not.
[11:07:03] <+Sidhartha> sure.
[11:07:07] <+Sidhartha> i understand that
[11:07:13] <@wrbtrader> For example...I could have a "big picture analysis" that the market is in a bullish uptrend but take Short positions all day on the shorter time frame
[11:08:04] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[11:08:09] <+Sidhartha> but, for example, if there is a clear downtrend in the 1 min time frame, given you a short term trader, you've got to be pretty sure of your bullish analysis to go against that trend in the short term... given that you hold positions for a matter on minutes usually...
[11:09:18] <@wrbtrader> Yep and "position size management" helps manage the increased risk exposure when taking short term trades against "longer term analysis".
[11:09:57] <+Sidhartha> now, i understand the kind of multiple confirmation you can get to convince you to go against the current trend... and I also understand that position size management and stop management is important for you when going against the trend...
[11:10:52] <+Sidhartha> but I'm still trying to get a handle on how you define a trend... is it something simple like there is an active WRB S/R zone directly above in the case of a downtrend and vice versa in an up trend... or something else maybe?
[11:11:19] <@wrbtrader> It's not difficult...
[11:11:43] <@wrbtrader> To define something means that it fits the definition "at the moment" of defining it.
[11:11:52] <@wrbtrader> Thus, it does not imply the trend will continue.
[11:11:57] <+Sidhartha> sure
[11:12:02] <+Sidhartha> I understand
[11:12:05] <@wrbtrader> Higher highs with higher lows = Up trend
[11:12:16] <@wrbtrader> Lower highs with lower lows = down trend
[11:12:22] <+Sidhartha> more than 2 intervals...
[11:12:31] <@wrbtrader> Doesn't imply it will continue the moment you conclude it's a trend
[11:12:53] <+Sidhartha> yup. i realise that.
[11:13:08] <@wrbtrader> I don't do bar to bar analysis.
[11:13:17] <@wrbtrader> I prefer to look at key price areas
[11:13:31] <@wrbtrader> If key price areas are developing higher = up trend
[11:13:44] <@wrbtrader> If key price areas are developing lower = down trend
[11:14:32] <+Sidhartha> ok. so what I mentioned before about active WRB S/R zones above a downtrend or below and uptrend would very likely qualify as that...
[11:14:52] <@wrbtrader> Yep
[11:15:12] <@wrbtrader> Doesn't matter if it's traditional s/r or whatever...
[11:15:17] <+Sidhartha> I only ask because that's a definition I've been using recently to mark the short term trend... and it's quite useful in making me aware of when I'm going with trend and against trend...
[11:15:36] <@wrbtrader> If new key levels are developing higher (higher than the prior one)...it's in an uptrend
[11:15:43] <@wrbtrader> vice versa for downtrend
[11:16:18] <@wrbtrader> Yeah...it's very helpful especially if you're into "position size management" like me.
[11:16:34] <@wrbtrader> If I know I'm taking a trade against the trend...I lower my position size.
[11:16:42] <+Sidhartha> exactly
[11:17:51] <+Sidhartha> sometimes the trend isn't always so clear like today... i.e. despite yesterdays downtrend, the opening gap up today led me to believe that the current short term trend was up... which it may have been at that point... however, it broke down when the trend changed again downwards
[11:18:50] <@wrbtrader> Shorts ES @ 1222.75 -> small size
[11:18:56] <@wrbtrader> 2 only
[11:19:01] <@wrbtrader> late entry
[11:19:38] <@wrbtrader> having 2nd thoughts...feels like I did something wrong
[11:20:18] <@wrbtrader> one of my charts has stopped...just now noticed
[11:21:03] <@wrbtrader> Covered all ES Short @ 1222.75 --> 0
[11:21:30] <@wrbtrader> Houdini escape
[11:21:55] <+pat255> loks like red move is over ...prolly the uptrend will continue
[11:24:20] <+Sidhartha> here comes the chop...
[11:26:38] <@wrbtrader> Yeah...I avoided the chop most of the day and then started trading late in the afternoon when the volatility suddenly showed up again...
[11:27:16] <@wrbtrader> As soon as I started trading that increasing volatility...it dried up about 2 trades into it although I admit I was late to the show when the drop first started
[11:28:19] <@wrbtrader> Yesterday I didn't have any trades over +1 point
[11:28:42] <@wrbtrader> That's a tough trading day or a day I missed seeing a lot of trade opportunities
[11:29:02] <@wrbtrader> Today the big difference in comparison is that I have 2 trades over +1 point
[11:29:30] <+pat255> but Es is like that tho ...need to stay in to get anything out OR do quick multiple trades for 1pt etc
[11:30:04] <+Sidhartha> tough to trade ES I think...
[11:30:54] <@wrbtrader> The one thing I have always liked about ES versus TF is that I can see volatility dry up much faster (see it leaving) in Emini ES than Emini TF
[11:31:13] <+pat255> i c
[11:31:13] <@wrbtrader> In TF...I always feel like I'm the last one out the door when the party is over
[11:32:28] <@wrbtrader> Volatility can dry up so fast in TF that by the time I figure it out...sometimes I get stuck inside the junk price action.
[11:33:10] <@wrbtrader> To trade Emini ES...I need to have SPY chart next to my Emini ES chart
[11:33:41] <@wrbtrader> A lot easier to see the volatility changes in SPY
[11:34:04] <+pat255> i c
[11:34:52] <@wrbtrader> If you're a Japanese Candlestick pattern trader of the Emini ES...
[11:35:01] <@wrbtrader> You can't do such without the help of SPY
[11:39:06] <+Sidhartha> that's because the ticksize in ES sucks...
[11:39:21] <+Sidhartha> it doesn't create good candlestick charts
[11:39:43] <+Sidhartha> same thing in EuroStoxx 50
[11:44:19] <@wrbtrader> Agree
[11:45:29] <@wrbtrader> increasing volatility
[12:31:58] <@wrbtrader> I just wrote this message over at Elitetrader.com in response to someone's question about "Volatility Dead" @
http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthrea ... ost3030469[12:36:51] <@wrbtrader> Any weekly or monthly chart of the VIX or VXX shows what's going on with volatility for those that view volatility as a key to their trading plan.
[12:37:42] <@wrbtrader> decreasing trade opportunities and/or less follow through to profit targets
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[12:44:00] <@wrbtrader> We've only had 2 key price areas develop since the bounce early 2009...
[12:44:10] <@wrbtrader> Both of those areas retraced each other.
[12:44:23] <@wrbtrader> The rest has been rising "volatility contraction".
[12:44:50] <@wrbtrader> Very difficult trading environment when volatility is contracting that much while price is rising or declining
[12:45:24] <@wrbtrader> Late 2007 to early 2009 were ideal volatility trading conditions...
[12:45:58] <@wrbtrader> Unfortunately it was via sad reasons (e.g. financial/economy collapses)
[12:50:58] <@wrbtrader> nice volatility spike out of the contraction the past 5 mins
[12:53:41] <@wrbtrader> contracting again
[12:54:03] <@wrbtrader> be back later...won't watch the paint dry on this one.
[13:37:48] <codehead> if we can pull up out of this triangle, i see 2198.50 then 2200.50-2201.00 on NQ
[13:38:29] <+codehead> not automatically, i mean breaking to upside and getting through that top at 96.5
[13:39:38] <+codehead> signals can turn up here
[13:51:10] <@wrbtrader> Shorts ES @ 1225.75 -> small size
[13:51:14] <@wrbtrader> 1 only
[13:55:17] <@wrbtrader> Covered ES Short @ 1226.50 --> - 0.75
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[14:16:26] <+codehead> NQ at first target
[14:43:54] <+codehead> NQ at second target
[14:50:11] <@wrbtrader> A lot of you guys not trading the higher lows since the 1030am est EIA Petroleum Status Report
??
[14:50:40] <@wrbtrader> There's a few trade opportunities in there
[14:54:28] <+inertia> i am still jet-lagged
[14:54:38] <+inertia> not a single trade 2day
[14:56:14] <@wrbtrader> If we aren't going to talk trading...lets talk about the "drunk grandma at USC/UCLA" football game @
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dv1yq2VnQuI [14:56:38] <@wrbtrader> pathetic to the guy that got behind her
[14:58:06] <+codehead> omg
[15:00:08] <winmax60> :-( omg
[15:02:30] <@wrbtrader> Emini ES stuck in a 3 tick range the past few minutues
[15:04:36] <@wrbtrader> be back later...gotta go to the store
[15:30:25] <+codehead> NQ tappe da target, 2194
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[15:56:31] <@wrbtrader> just got back
[16:01:06] <@wrbtrader> doesn't look like I had missed any trade opportunities while I was briefly out shopping for a XMAS tree
[16:02:25] <@wrbtrader> Long ES @ 1227.50 -> small size
[16:02:30] <@wrbtrader> 2 only
[16:03:29] <@wrbtrader> came within 1 tick
[16:04:29] <@wrbtrader> Exited all ES Long @ 1228.00 --> + 0.5
[16:11:37] <+inertia> it will be interesting 2morrow. we had an inside day 2day in IWM = TF
[16:15:59] <@wrbtrader> I see it now
[16:16:22] <@wrbtrader> I'm still looking for a trend day
[16:16:38] <@wrbtrader> Thus, will be increasing my position size for tomorrow and Friday
[16:16:41] <+Sidhartha> silly question... what do inside days mean...
outside of some uncertainty or equilibrium...
[16:18:32] <@wrbtrader> some use it as an early alert to a volatility spike
[16:19:05] <@wrbtrader> that's what I use it as
[16:19:48] <@wrbtrader> Emini TF volatility has been contracting now for 5 days on the daily chart
[16:20:34] <@wrbtrader> Emini ES has been contracting for 4 days now
[16:20:47] <@wrbtrader> Reason why I'm looking for a trend day
[16:21:21] <@wrbtrader> However, hopefully we won't get a big gap and then intraday volatility contraction
[16:21:40] <@wrbtrader> been seeing too much of that crap in 2010 after the daily charts contracted
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Session Close: Wed Dec 08 18:22:43 2010
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#FuturesTrades is
free and is a serious professional trading chat room in which any trader can use the chat room to post their trades or commentaries involving futures, exchange traded funds or forex currencies. Simply, you don't need to be a client of TheStrategyLab.com to use the chat room nor do you need to be a price action only trader (no indicators) because some members use indicators while others do not.
Therefore, we welcome
all traders with their own trade signal methods, different perspective of the markets and different experience levels. To gain access to #FuturesTrades...please follow the instructions at the below link.
http://www.thestrategylab.com/ftchat/forum/viewforum.php?f=5The purpose of #FuturesTrades is that it's designed to be a
trade journal for documentation purposes only so that members can have a time stamp archive of trades and market commentaries of each trading day so that they can better understand their broker statements from one trade to the next trade when they review their performance numbers on any given trading day.
Further, members are not obligated to educate nor help other members but members are encourage to ask questions about any trades or market commentaries that's posted by others.
In addition, our primary job in the
free chat room is to moderate the room (keep the peace) because with so many members using different trade signal methods along with different opinions about the market...debates or arguments can easily flare up without moderating. In addition, our presence in the chat room is to ensure it's a
spam free chat room during trading although these archived chat logs may contain advertisements for guest visitors.
Commonly discussed trading instruments from futures, exchange traded funds and forex currencies:
CME Emini Futures EMD, ES and NQ
ICE Emini TF Futures (formerly CME ER2)
CBOT mini-sized Dow Futures YM
Eurex Index Derivatives (futures) DAX and DJ Euro Stoxx50
Eurex Fixed Income Derivatives (futures) BUND, BOBL and Schatz
Euronext Futures FTSE-100 and CAC-40
CME Futures EuroFX 6E and EC
Treasury Futures T-Notes ZT, ZN, ZF and T-Bonds ZB
Forex Currencies GbpUsd, EurUsd, EurYen and UsdCdn
Exchange Traded Funds VXX, DIA, IWM, QQQQ, SPY, BGU, FAS, FAZ, TNA, OIH, XLE and GLD
NYMEX Energy Futures Light Crude Oil CL, Brent Crude Oil BRN, e-miNY QM and Natural Gas NG
COMEX Metal Futures Gold GC, mini-Gold YG, Copper HG and Silver SI
S&P CNX NIFTY Futures
Hang Seng Index Futures HSI and mini-Hang Seng MHI
Also, to prevent the usual mix-up about our different chat rooms, most of our fee-base clients do not use chat rooms just like most retail traders do not use chat rooms. Yet, the few clients that do use chat rooms, our fee-base clients are discussing market analysis or
price action only trade signals via concepts from our strategies in the
private chat rooms called
#VolatilityTradingTSL or
#SwingTradingTSL and they're not allowed to do such in #FuturesTrades.
Reminder, our
Terms of Use (TOU) Policy is a must read to prevent any misunderstandings along with revealing that #FuturesTrades is a serious professional trading chat room and we expect members to act
professional. Also, these logs may have been edited (rarely) to remove any messages that a member has complained to me via private message that they consider a particular commentary to be inappropriate, offending or too far in the off topic area that's a distraction when the commentary was posted.
Note: All logs regardless to their location at TheStrategyLab.com website are eastern standard time. Best Regards,
M.A. Perry
Trader and Founder of
WRB Analysis (wide range body analysis)
Price Action Only Trading (no indicators)
@
http://twitter.com/wrbtrader or http://stocktwits.com/wrbtrader Phone: +1 708 572-4885
Business Hours: 8am - 5pm est (Mon - Fri)
Skype Messenger: kebec2002
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