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Session Start: Wed Dec 01 07:39:24 2010
Session Ident: #FuturesTrades
[07:39:24] * Now talking in #FuturesTrades
[07:39:25] <@X> [NihabaAshi] chat room archives @
viewforum.php?f=20[08:38:11] <@wrbtrader> Another big upgap via the overnight trading session
[08:52:24] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[09:11:58] <werner>
all
[09:15:33] <Sidhartha>
all
[09:16:24] <+Sidhartha> anyone get a notice that those scumbags at ICE are starting to charge $70 a month from Jan 2011 for futures data (i.e. TF in my case)....
[09:20:33] <Time4now>
[09:25:14] <@wrbtrader> Sidthartha, I have not and I trade TF.
[09:25:31] <LP>
[09:25:41] <@wrbtrader> Thus, I have not gotten a notice from my brokers nor my chart vendor about any new fees associated with TF data
[09:26:12] <+Sidhartha> ok. i don't know how you get charged... but I had an e-mail from IQ Feed last night and spoke to them today... they told me it's a fee starting to be levied by ICE to all data providers...
[09:26:23] <+Sidhartha> so I assume you will be getting an e-mail very soon
[09:26:59] <@wrbtrader> Usually when fees change...most data vendors or brokers send out notices about 2 - 3 months in advance
[09:27:16] <+Sidhartha> ICE seem to be going to opposite way to CME who seem to be giving data away these days in order to get more people trading
[09:27:31] <@wrbtrader> Also, some brokers or chart vendors will "absorb" the new fees without passing it on to their clients.
[09:28:01] <+Sidhartha> some... if you do enough volume... yes
[09:28:36] <+Sidhartha> $70 a monht for basically one useful data feed (TF) is daylight robbery
[09:28:51] <@wrbtrader> Agree...it will also KILL the Emini TF
[09:28:54] <drt>
[09:29:08] <+Sidhartha> i also don't understand why they don't charge smaller retail less than the 'pros'... i.e. hedge funds etc...
[09:29:46] <+Sidhartha> wrbtrader... I'll forward you the e-mail I got from IQ feed...
[09:30:57] <@wrbtrader> Thanks
[09:31:20] <@wrbtrader> I'll be calling my brokers and chart vendors today to find out more info on this.
[09:32:10] <@wrbtrader> If they say their going to charge me more...I'll STOP trading the emini TF and stop subscribing to ICE.
[09:32:44] <+Sidhartha> and trade what instead...
[09:32:46] <Tigerman> HI all
[09:32:49] <@wrbtrader> I'll temporarily move back to the Emini ES or trade Light Crude Oil CL assuming CL is not traded on ICE
[09:33:02] <+Tigerman> Long TF @ 741.6
[09:34:25] <+Tigerman> Exited all TF Long @ 741.8 --> + 0.2
[09:37:08] <+Tigerman> uptrend intact
[09:38:31] <@wrbtrader> This gap is HUGE via the fact it's jumped above other prior gaps
[09:39:18] <+Tigerman> is huge for sure like economic-news and big debt turmoil
[09:41:12] <+werner> tf new year high...
[09:41:54] <@wrbtrader> Markets are so globally connected...with all the crap going on recently...
[09:42:11] <+werner> yes indd
[09:42:11] <@wrbtrader> I'm surprise this thing just keeps going higher...mainly in the overnight trading sessions.
[09:42:29] <@wrbtrader> Almost as if it's all being "manipulated".
[09:43:09] <+Time4now> insert dramatic chipmunk
[09:43:12] <@wrbtrader> Regardless...even "manipulation" can be exploited via just trading the price action instead of our opinions.
[09:43:36] <+Tigerman> of course
[09:46:00] <+Tigerman> we continue this strong uptrend started this morning in EU or after midnight in US
[09:49:05] <@wrbtrader> Shorts TF @ 740.50 -> small size
[09:49:13] <@wrbtrader> 2 only
[09:50:58] <@wrbtrader> Shorts TF @ 740.50 -> Add
[09:51:02] <+werner> Shorts NQ @ 2161.00
[09:51:09] <@wrbtrader> 1 added
[09:51:20] <+Tigerman> short 1199.75 ES
[09:52:06] <@wrbtrader> Covered 1/3 TF Short @ 740.00 --> + 0.5
[09:52:47] <+werner> Covered all NQ Short @ 2161.50 --> - 0.5
[09:53:13] <@wrbtrader> Covered Remainder TF Short @ 740.10 --> + 0.4
[09:55:15] <+Tigerman> exit ES 1201.25
[09:55:52] <+Tigerman> long ES 1201.5
[10:00:08] <+Tigerman> exit 1201.75
[10:00:32] <+Tigerman> short ES 1200
[10:03:10] <+werner> Shorts NQ @ 2165.00
[10:04:15] <+werner> Covered all NQ Short @ 2164.50 --> + 0.5
[10:04:29] <+Tigerman> exit ES 1200.75
[10:06:06] <+werner> Shorts NQ @ 2163.00
[10:07:40] <+Time4now> sometimes these big opening gaps lead to lingering price action
[10:08:13] <+Tigerman> Shorts ES @ 1200
[10:09:34] <+Tigerman> Covered 1/3 ES Short @ 1199.5 --> + 0.5
[10:11:32] <+Tigerman> Covered 1/3 ES Short @ 1199.25 --> + 0.75
[10:12:01] <@wrbtrader> Not much happening so far on "low volatility" after the big gap on the open
[10:12:15] <+Tigerman> 1 ct remainder
[10:12:34] <+Tigerman> yep after big gaps is hard to trade
[10:13:37] <+werner> Covered all NQ Short @ 2161.00 --> + 2
[10:13:38] <+Tigerman> Covered Remainder ES Short @ 1199 --> + 1
[10:14:12] <+Time4now> everyone here seems to be doing well in it
[10:15:42] <+werner> i take small profit and small stops
[10:16:09] <+werner> must be quick in this market i think
[10:17:20] <+Time4now> lets see if it can get spured up for the petroleum report at 1030 et
[10:17:39] <+werner> ow tx
[10:17:57] <+Time4now> 10 am et news did nothing though
[10:20:50] <+werner> Shorts NQ @ 2161.75
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[10:23:03] <+werner> Covered all NQ Short @ 2160.00 --> + 1.75
[10:23:20] <@wrbtrader> Geeesh...the 10am est economic news didn't shake things up
[10:23:55] <@wrbtrader> Hopefully the 1030am est EIA Petroleum Status report will bring in some volatility instead of waiting for the 2pm est FED Beige Book release
[10:28:16] <+LP> 740 - 742.50 chop zone on tf, i'm down 2 from trying the breakout
[10:31:35] <+LP> beige book at 2pm
[10:32:04] <+LP> 2:10 Federal Reserve Vice Chair Janet Yellen speaks in New York to the Committee for Economic Development on "Fiscal Responsibility and Global Rebalancing."
[10:33:08] <+LP> 2:30 US FDIC Chair Sheila Bair , Federal Reserve Gov. Daniel Tarullo, the acting director of the FHFA and Executive VPs of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac testify to the Senate Banking Committee on problems in the mortgage servicing industry.
[10:33:36] <+LP> so we will see
[10:36:53] <+Tigerman> have to go see all next time
[10:37:15] <+werner> yo
[10:37:16] <+LP> cya
[10:45:20] <+werner> now lets see what nq and tf can here
[10:46:08] <+werner> must go up ...if not...
[10:50:03] <+Sidhartha> wrbtrader, if you hear anything back from your chart/data provider about the TF charges can you let me know.... thanks.
[10:53:12] <+werner> Shorts NQ @ 2164.50
[10:59:47] <marx> does anyone know of any place for real time bond prices
[11:01:12] <+werner> not here
[11:01:45] <+marx> u guys are option traders?
[11:02:06] <+werner> no futures
[11:05:30] <+marx> ok
[11:07:28] <+werner> Covered all NQ Short @ 2164.00 --> + 0.5
[11:09:20] <+werner> lets see again
[11:23:18] <+werner> brr lets see
[11:24:10] <+werner> 3min candles nq ..tsss
[11:26:27] <@wrbtrader> Huge gap up at the open and now crappy low volatility price action
[11:27:00] <@wrbtrader> 2010 will go down on record as my "most boring" trading year...
[11:27:16] <+werner>
[11:27:33] <+Sidhartha> because of the constant overnight gaps...
[11:27:42] <@wrbtrader> That requires a ton of patience to prevent trading a lot of price action not worth trading.
[11:29:33] <+werner> Shorts NQ @ 2164.75
[11:30:07] <@wrbtrader> Sid...yes...these big overnight gaps is a major reason why we have less day trading opportunities during the regular trading session.
[11:30:36] <+werner> yes indd
[11:34:55] <+werner> djeez
[11:35:41] <+werner> what a mess
[11:37:27] <+werner> Covered all NQ Short @ 2165.75 --> - 1
[11:39:20] <+werner> gjeez look at nq 3 min
[11:39:27] <+werner> djeez
[11:40:09] <+werner> prev week high
[11:42:02] <+werner> Long NQ @ 2165
[11:42:30] <+werner> Long NQ @ 2165.25
[11:42:40] <+werner> thats it
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[11:49:35] <+werner> i only look at my charts i try to think nothing
[11:50:31] <+werner> Exited all NQ Long @ 2168.25 --> + 3
[11:50:49] <+Time4now> gj
[11:51:51] <+LP> euro spike
[11:52:55] <+werner> grr
[12:01:22] <+werner> prev wek high here at ym and es
[12:02:56] <codehead> 2173.50 is .786 on the daily
[12:03:36] <+codehead> wow, look at dollar
[12:03:42] <+codehead> fast dump
[12:09:01] <+marx> cad is up
[12:09:06] <+marx> dollar is down
[12:09:09] <+marx> badly
[12:19:52] <@wrbtrader> Yeah...U.S. dollar trying to stabilize after that big volatility spike downwards
[12:20:17] <@wrbtrader> It's trying to get back above a key support level
[12:21:55] <@wrbtrader> Forex Usd/Cad started looking like it had stabilize around 1015am est but it soon reversed and has been heading south
[12:22:27] <@wrbtrader> I was going to make a big deposit today from my U.S. bank account to my Canadian bank account...
[12:22:46] <@wrbtrader> Will put that on hold today after seeing the price actionof the Usd/Cad
[12:43:07] <+werner> Shorts NQ @ 1204.75
[12:47:35] <+werner> zoro momo
[12:47:39] <+werner> zero
[13:12:58] <+werner> Covered all NQ Short @ 1206.00 --> - 1.25
[13:14:06] <+werner> Long NQ @ 1206.75
[13:15:56] <+codehead> ES?
[13:17:35] <+werner> yes sorry
[13:19:04] <+werner> Exited all NQ Long @ 1205.25 --> - 1.5
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[13:19:31] <+werner> Shorts NQ @ 1204.50
[13:19:59] <+werner> es
[13:23:57] <+werner> Covered all NQ Short @ 1205.00 --> - 0.5
[13:24:09] <+werner> back to nq now
[13:25:09] <+codehead> rats, messing with an account of mine, trading form the charts, using sim
[13:25:21] <+codehead> it's all messed up, doesn't work right
[13:25:50] <+codehead> really aggravating, especially cuz i knew i wanted it real at one point, but was messing with the sim
[13:26:07] <+codehead> it wouldn't even take profit, had ot find a way to close the trade
[13:26:38] <+werner>
[13:26:56] <+codehead> showed the limit order to cover on chart, price went right thru it, order sat there
[13:27:05] <+codehead> and any other order got rejected
[13:27:15] <+codehead> now, they call me and wonder why i'm not trading their account
[13:27:17] <+codehead> sheesh
[13:27:23] <+codehead> awful software
[13:27:51] <+codehead> i guess they want you to pay for the premium 3rd party software and not make their free platform work right
[13:27:52] <+werner>
? software
[13:28:15] <+codehead> well, i use esignal, so i really only need a good platform for order-placing
[13:28:46] <+codehead> so i don't want to may for the 3rd party stuff
[13:28:54] <+codehead> but their software sucks
[13:29:08] <+werner> mm ok wy not integrate it like ts
[13:29:30] <+codehead> they tried to talk me into using their ability to trade form within esignal, but their broker plug-in is buggy as hell
[13:29:45] <+codehead> it just does not work, not even close
[13:30:05] <+werner>
[13:31:23] <+codehead> what do you use werner?
[13:31:31] <+werner> ts
[13:31:46] <+codehead> k
[13:34:40] <+werner> charts and order platform ..its nice and simpel i think.
[13:35:34] <+codehead> i've used ts before
[13:35:42] <+codehead> i don't like the programming language
[13:35:50] <+codehead> tho i hear they are coming out with a new one
[13:36:23] <+codehead> beige book in a bit
[13:36:31] <+werner> ok tx
[13:38:23] <+werner> brb
[13:41:46] <+codehead> omg, the stupid sim software, after i finally did a "close positions" to get out of it, shows the cover at the same price as entry
[13:42:33] <+codehead> despite the trade being up 4 pt, and we havent' been within 2 pt of the entry still
[13:42:42] <+codehead> does anyone test their stuff?
[13:45:56] <+codehead> oil new hod
[14:07:53] <@wrbtrader> Price action now within the 2pm est Beige Book reaction
[14:18:34] <+werner> back...mist that long ..grr
[14:19:05] <+codehead> oil not stopping
[14:27:23] * +Time4now short tf 743.1
[14:29:00] * +Time4now exit 1 742.7
[14:29:45] * +Time4now exit all 743
[14:38:39] <+werner> djeez what a mess
[14:39:53] <+werner> always ..with a big gap...side ways
[14:39:58] <@wrbtrader> I know how this works...
[14:40:10] <+werner>
[14:40:12] <@wrbtrader> The market does very little after a big gap at the open...
[14:40:25] <@wrbtrader> I stare at the monitor all day until I get completely bored...
[14:40:28] <+werner>
[14:40:53] <@wrbtrader> I then call it quits or go do something personal to only find out later the market made a big move while I was gone
[14:42:04] <+werner> indd ...and when stay sit at the screen it never moves
[14:43:55] <+werner> i went too see the ponies ...very colt here
[14:44:36] <+Time4now> is that a joke?
[14:44:47] <+Time4now> colt + ponies
[14:45:01] <+werner> hihi
[14:45:06] <+werner> colt yes
[14:45:43] <+werner> and ponies "horses" yes
[14:46:06] <+Time4now> ok just checking
[14:46:21] <+werner> hihi
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[14:47:04] <+werner> it feels like -15 degrees here
[14:47:13] <+werner> brrr
[14:52:47] <+LP> 10 - 30y bonds blasted today
[14:52:49] <+werner> yesterday my son fall with his motorcycle in the snow ...i repair it the hole day long...it cost me a lot but i like to repair ...hihi
[14:53:48] <+LP> what does he ride?
[14:54:03] <+werner> derbi
[14:54:15] <+werner> he is 17
[14:54:21] <+LP> ok
[14:55:28] <+werner> and his crossmoto is a yamaha 125 cc
[14:56:18] <+LP> ok just looked it up, not many derbi's in the US, plus 17 he should fix his own bike
heheee
[14:56:19] <+werner> i like yamaha
[14:56:40] <+werner> hihi... lol
[14:57:03] <+werner> but he has the figgers from his mom
[14:57:15] <+LP> lol
[15:00:29] <+werner> so i repair in the morning and trade in the afternoon for the $$$ that it cost for the repair ...
[15:08:18] <@wrbtrader> Will be back later for the 4pm est rush hour traffic...the boredom finally has pushed me away from the monitor.
[15:08:23] * wrbtrader is now known as wrbtrader_away
[15:08:41] <+Time4now> now we should see some action
[15:14:56] <+Sidhartha> codehead... just caught your earlier conversation... what platform you use...
[15:19:58] <+werner> Long NQ @ 2166.25
[15:21:10] <+codehead> i've been trading mostly with IB, but was talking about PFG (broker), and trying ot use their esignal plug-in
[15:22:33] <+codehead> i prefer trading from a dom, but IB added a confirmation layer, obviously for patent considerations
[15:22:37] <+codehead> and that sucks
[15:22:51] <+codehead> pfg has free software, but their dom is goofy
[15:23:20] <+codehead> so was trying to trade from charts, but it's totally messed up
[15:29:35] <+werner> Exited all NQ Long @ 2165.50 --> - 0.75
[15:30:30] <+werner> Shorts NQ @ 2165.25
[15:36:13] <+werner> Covered NQ Short @ 2166.00 --> - 0.75
[15:36:14] <+werner> Reverse and Enter Long NQ @ 2166.00
[15:47:21] <+werner> Exited NQ Long @ 2165.00 --> - 1
[15:47:21] <+werner> Reverse and Enter Short NQ @ 2165.00
[15:47:32] <+werner> mm
[15:55:47] <+werner> Covered all NQ Short @ 2162.00 --> + 3
[15:59:22] <+codehead> nice
[16:01:14] <+werner> tx ...
[16:03:17] <+LP> what a day
take care all
[16:08:14] * cwj-away is now known as cwj
[16:08:39] <+werner> gn all
[16:10:29] * wrbtrader_away is now known as wrbtrader
[16:11:14] <cwj> afternoon, MA.. glad to see the room still around (was here late 2002-04) and thought i'd drop in
[16:11:19] <@wrbtrader> I didn't miss much...I don't feel guilty about going out to do personal stuff
[16:11:41] <@wrbtrader> Hi cwj
[16:12:44] <+cwj> after 12:15 was some relative "chop" in ES
[16:13:03] <@wrbtrader> chop on low volatility
[16:13:17] <@wrbtrader> kills the appearance of any intraday trade opportunities
[16:15:16] <+cwj> was way too distracted to trade around some core positions in both ZB and ZN, but there was quite the opportunity on a 123-00 break
[16:16:12] <@wrbtrader> cwj...do you also monitor or trade the Eurex BUND
??
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[16:17:01] <+cwj> not lately, i've been trading the US/UK gilt future spread mostly
[16:17:40] <+cwj> my hands have been quite full just trying to manage US and to some extent UK.. I keep only a cursory view of GER just b/c of what's going on
[16:17:51] <@wrbtrader> I've met more "spread traders" in 2010 than I have in the past 5 years combined.
[16:18:07] <@wrbtrader> Must be all that global stuff
[16:19:02] <+cwj> well when i left the room, i went off to work at Bear.. I moved into the bond floor there after a few more years.. then "wham" lol
[16:19:12] <+cwj> been doing spreads since ~ 2006
[16:20:06] <@wrbtrader> What's your recommend account size (minimum) for doing the type of spreads that you do
??
[16:20:26] <+cwj> bare minimum in futs, 50k
[16:21:07] <+cwj> let's say you're anticipating the 10/30Y cash curve to widen and you want to replicate it in futures
[16:21:19] <@wrbtrader> Ok...I've been seeing numbers anywhere between 50k - 100k
[16:21:47] <+cwj> 1 spread unit is 5:3, so long 5 ZN, short 3 ZB
[16:22:20] <+Sidhartha> Codehead... sorry I just came back
[16:22:36] <+Sidhartha> I use IB with the ZeroLine Trader DOM... I think it's pretty good.
[16:23:16] <+cwj> historically it has been a relatively low volatility trade, ideal for swings.. but today... you could easily scalp it intraday
[16:23:37] <@wrbtrader> You "mainluy" swinging the spreads or day trading them
??
[16:24:30] <+cwj> swing now.. and trade around the core position
[16:24:49] <@wrbtrader> ok
[16:25:52] <+cwj> 2005-08 all you could do was swing, now ... in certain pairs you can get away with intraday trading just because of everything that's going on... so i had to adjust my "window" to a much shorter timeframe
[16:26:39] <+cwj> ZN vs. ZT is a good one, also ZF vs. ZN,ZB due to the Fed activity in 5-10Y
[16:41:48] <@wrbtrader> I watch ZN, ZF and ZB everyday to help give me that big picture while I am trading Emini TF futures
[16:42:12] <@wrbtrader> I also watch Oil futures, Gold futures and U.S. Dollar
[16:43:01] <@wrbtrader> Without them, I think I would "overtrade" every trading day or get caught off guard via sudden swings
[16:53:19] <@wrbtrader> Take care all...I have personal appointments tomorrow. Thus, I won't be trading until the late afternoon.
[16:53:49] <@wrbtrader> cwj...thanks on the info about your spread trading.
[16:54:17] <@wrbtrader> I'll upload today's log to the major search engines and hopefully it attracts more spread traders in here.
[16:54:27] * wrbtrader is now known as wrbtrader_away
[17:07:31] <+cwj> sure thing... i'll see you
[17:08:04] <+cwj> was wrapping up my end of day stuff.. i'll post in more and share if you wish
[17:09:08] * cwj is now known as cwj-gone
[17:46:27] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
Session Close: Wed Dec 01 19:09:44 2010
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