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 Post subject: October 12th Tuesday - Futures, ETFs and Forex Currencies
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#FuturesTrades is free along with being a serious professional trading chat room and any trader can use the chat room to post their trades or commentaries involving futures, exchange traded funds or forex currencies.

#FuturesTrades is designed to be a trade journal for documentation purposes only so that members can have a real time stamp archive of trades and market commentaries of each trading day so that they can better understand their broker statements from one trade to the next trade when they review their performance numbers on any given trading day.

In addition, we welcome all traders with their own methods or different perspective of the markets to help keep the chat room diversified...posting trades or market commentaries. Also, if you're looking for real-time education in the chat room involving price action only trading (profitably trading without indicators)...you need to contact us to schedule price action only trading real-time discussions. We'll then have one on one (private) real-time price action only trading discussions with you while you're using #FuturesTrades real-time chat room to prevent distractions in the chat room with other members that are using different trading methods in comparison to us. However, you must first download and learn our free study guide at a different forum @ TSL Support Forum * http://www.thestrategylab.com/tsl/forum/viewforum.php?f=5

With that said, thanks for reading the trades or market commentaries that's below and we highly recommend you make reading of the logs a part of your trading routine because you will sometimes find useful trade information not discussed anywhere else online nor in any books if you're not interested in scheduling one on one (private) real-time price action only trading education discussions. To gain access to #FuturesTrades chat room...please follow the instructions @ FTCHAT Support Forum * http://www.thestrategylab.com/ftchat/forum/viewforum.php?f=5

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Session Start: Tue Oct 12 09:17:45 2010
Session Ident: #FuturesTrades
[09:17:45] * Now talking in #FuturesTrades
[09:17:45] <@X> [NihabaAshi] Announcement: The new trade posting script v3.7 (replaces v3.6) is posted at your forum in the "Announcements" thread.
[09:22:15] <pat255> gm all
[09:26:13] <+pat255> L biased but ..
[09:28:17] * peterfin is now known as senn
[09:32:21] <drt> gm all
[09:37:48] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[09:40:25] <+pat255> heading to the exits
[09:45:30] <+pat255> hmmm ther goes the L bias
[09:51:01] <werner> yep
[09:53:12] <JimL1> Long EC @ 1.3800 «« simulator »»
[09:53:18] <+werner> es and tf still in sup zone imo
[09:53:40] <+JimL1> Exited 2/3 EC Long @ 1.3803 --> + 0.0003 «« simulator »»
[09:54:16] <+JimL1> exit stop raised EC @ 1.3801 «« simulator »»
[09:54:22] <+JimL1> Trailing Stop Hit EC @ 1.3801 --> + 0.0001 «« simulator »»
[09:55:31] <JimL> 10:00am USD IBD/TIPP Economic Optimism
[09:55:54] <+pat255> L nq 2007.25 paper
[09:57:53] <+werner> bbl
[10:00:40] <+pat255> out NQ
[10:02:25] <+JimL1> Long EC @ 1.3809 «« simulator »»
[10:02:27] <+JimL1> 33
[10:03:15] <+JimL1> Exited all EC Long @ 1.3810 --> + 0.0001 «« simulator »»
[10:04:09] <+JimL1> mishanded stop
[10:13:58] <+JimL1> buy stop to enter long EC @ 1.3820 «« simulator »»
[10:14:26] <+JimL1> Long EC @ 1.3820 «« simulator »»
[10:15:19] <+JimL1> 4
[10:15:40] <+JimL1> Exited 1/4 EC Long @ 1.3823 --> + 0.0003 «« simulator »»
[10:15:58] <+JimL1> Exited 1/4 EC Long @ 1.3825 --> + 0.0005 «« simulator »»
[10:16:40] <+JimL1> exit stop raised EC @ 1.3814 «« simulator »»
[10:17:42] <+JimL1> exit stop raised EC @ 1.3821 «« simulator »»
[10:19:12] <+JimL1> Exited 1/4 EC Long @ 1.3825 --> + 0.0005 «« simulator »»
[10:21:25] <+JimL1> Trailing Stop Hit EC @ 1.3821 --> + 0.0001 «« simulator »»
[10:31:49] <+JimL1> was hoping 6E would get closer to brkout pt @ 1.3850 to synch w/IBD/TIPP, didn't happen so scalped along w/what ws there - maybe more opptys in FOMC @ 14:00
[10:32:54] <+JimL1> DX rangebound since us mkt open few opptys - going to look @ TF
[10:51:27] <+werner> mm. bbl
[10:52:42] <+pat255> geez was thinking L then mkt dropped 10 pts on Es now up 5
[11:04:48] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[11:07:11] <+JimL1> Long TF @ 691.5 «« simulator »»
[11:07:13] <+JimL1> 4
[11:08:14] <+JimL1> Exited 1/4 TF Long @ 692 --> + 0.5 «« simulator »»
[11:08:31] <+JimL1> Exited 1/4 TF Long @ 692.3 --> + 0.8 «« simulator »»
[11:09:26] <+JimL1> Exited Remainder TF Long @ 691.6 --> + 0.1 «« simulator »»
[11:19:33] <+JimL1> Shorts TF @ 690.6 «« simulator »»
[11:19:35] <+JimL1> 2
[11:20:01] <+JimL1> Covered 1/2 TF Short @ 690.3 --> + 0.3 «« simulator »»
[11:20:18] <+JimL1> Covered Remainder TF Short @ 690.6 --> 0 «« simulator »»
[11:24:29] <+werner> Long NQ @ 2029.50
[11:29:11] <+werner> Exited all NQ Long @ 2031.50 --> + 2
[11:29:18] <+pat255> vn
[11:29:33] <+werner> tx pat
[11:31:28] <+werner> bbl
[11:36:12] <+JimL1> done now for any more trades, bbl
[12:21:03] <+pat255> k guys cu all later tu
[12:34:49] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[13:52:56] <codehead> fomc mins coming up
[13:58:27] <@wrbtrader> Only thing interesting today was that V bottom bounce off the intraday lows
[14:01:04] <+JimL1> tf whipping around, dta locked up
[14:01:13] <+JimL1> data locked up
[14:04:49] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[14:08:47] <+werner> wrbtrader , don't you trade today?
[14:08:58] <@wrbtrader> Yeah...no signals
[14:09:06] <+werner> ok tx :)
[14:10:02] <@wrbtrader> However, could have done some "intuition trades" within key zones I was following but just felt like today was one of those days that I only stick to trade signals
[14:10:38] <+werner> don't like this market
[14:11:00] <+JimL1> Long TF @ 693.7 «« simulator »»
[14:11:00] <+JimL1> 3
[14:11:41] <@wrbtrader> Pure TA folks are having a lot of problems with this market or not getting too many trade opportunities
[14:16:15] <+JimL1> Exited 1/3 TF Long @ 694 --> + 0.3 «« simulator »»
[14:16:21] <+werner> indd wrbtrader
[14:17:12] <+JimL1> Exited 1/3 TF Long @ 694.7 --> + 1 «« simulator »»
[14:22:27] <+JimL1> Exited Remainder TF Long @ 695.6 --> + 1.9 «« simulator »»
[14:23:10] <+JimL1> Shorts TF @ 6952 «« simulator »»
[14:23:14] <+JimL1> 2
[14:25:31] <+JimL1> Covered all TF Short @ 6952 --> 0 «« simulator »»
[14:25:51] <+JimL1> Shorts TF @ 694.7 «« simulator »»
[14:25:54] <+JimL1> 2
[14:26:03] <+JimL1> Covered all TF Short @ 694.1 --> + 0.6 «« simulator »»
[14:32:54] <@wrbtrader> Shorts TF @ 692.00 -> small size
[14:34:41] <@wrbtrader> Covered TF Short @ 692.20 --> - 0.2
[14:35:56] <@wrbtrader> Long TF @ 692.80 -> small size
[14:37:15] <@wrbtrader> Exited TF Long @ 692.60 --> - 0.2
[14:48:57] <@wrbtrader> Why do folks consistently show 10x - 20x more size on the bid and ask when there's only 1 - 2 contracts being traded.
[14:49:29] <@wrbtrader> Thus, TF consistently this year have people showing 10 to 20 contracts but then only execute a 1 contract trade.
[14:50:03] <@wrbtrader> I've never been able to make sense of that
[14:52:29] <+werner> manipulation?
[14:53:54] <Time4now> wouldn't price move off of the current number given enough buyers/sellers?
[14:54:14] <+Time4now> before they were all executed
[14:54:43] <@wrbtrader> not sure
[14:59:35] <+JimL1> done for day
[15:00:26] <Flenn> I prefer to watch the 1K and greater blocks of ES and ignor the tiny trades.
[15:01:12] <+Flenn> and watch the level two contract balance
[15:02:05] <+Flenn> presently the balance of BID to ASK totals is about 20 to 23K contracts
[15:03:55] <+Flenn> last large blocks traded almost 15 min ago so kinda slow here for the "institutional traders".
[15:04:54] <+werner> http://www.bioswing.de/de/bioswing/gesundheitsnutzen/
[15:05:03] <+werner> nice trade chair
[15:05:10] <+Flenn> 1309 here on the ask and 31977 on the bid
[15:05:21] <+Flenn> 3197 typo
[15:14:13] <+Flenn> long 1163.50 balance 17 - 23
[15:16:19] <+Flenn> +1.75 out at the HOD 1165.25
[15:22:15] <+Flenn> new HOD breakout 1166.50 watching for retrace
[15:27:19] <@wrbtrader> 2 tick range the past 1 min
[15:27:35] <@wrbtrader> I'm now expecting a volatility spike
[15:28:15] <@wrbtrader> Long TF @ 695.70 -> small size
[15:28:36] <@wrbtrader> intuition
[15:29:27] <@wrbtrader> Long TF @ 695.70 -> Add
[15:29:39] <@wrbtrader> 2 total
[15:30:09] <@wrbtrader> volatility just died
[15:30:11] <@wrbtrader> :(
[15:31:03] <+codehead> short NQ 2042.00 <sim>
[15:31:25] <+codehead> i had buy order at NQ bottom, didn't fill, chased a few ticks--sigh--no trade
[15:31:28] <+codehead> too late to start
[15:31:39] <+codehead> and i don't normally trade last half hour
[15:31:50] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[15:32:01] <+codehead> 10 tick stop
[15:33:15] <+codehead> exit NQ +.25 <sim>
[15:33:23] <+codehead> taking too long, at margin time
[15:33:47] <+codehead> short term is saying pullback
[15:34:06] <+codehead> but it's getting long in tooth and no pb
[15:35:13] <@wrbtrader> Exited all TF Long @ 695.60 --> - 0.2
[15:42:23] <@wrbtrader> Shorts TF @ 695.10 -> small size
[15:42:36] <@wrbtrader> 3 only
[15:42:38] <@wrbtrader> 2 + 1
[15:43:20] <@wrbtrader> volatility increasing
[15:44:14] <@wrbtrader> support @ 694.40
[15:44:26] <+werner> Long NQ @ 2041.25
[15:45:11] <+codehead> long NQ 2041.00 <sim>
[15:45:26] <@wrbtrader> Covered all TF Short @ 695.00 --> + 0.1
[15:46:05] <@wrbtrader> still not catching any runners...just ticks + or -
[15:46:07] <@wrbtrader> :(
[15:46:41] <+codehead> stop b/e -0.25 <sim>
[15:47:38] <+codehead> exit NQ +1.00 <sim>
[15:50:03] <+werner> Exited all NQ Long @ 2042.50 --> + 1.25
[15:50:24] <+Flenn> long 1167.50 looking for a point is all
[15:51:00] <+werner> gn all
[15:52:06] <+Flenn> stop to BE tight stop
[15:52:24] <+Flenn> out done for the day.
[15:53:23] <@wrbtrader> Shorts TF @ 695.70 -> medium size
[15:53:27] <@wrbtrader> 4 only
[15:54:40] <@wrbtrader> Covered 1/2 TF Short @ 695.30 --> + 0.4
[15:55:36] <@wrbtrader> support @ 694.40
[15:58:16] <@wrbtrader> Covered 1/4 TF Short @ 694.50 --> + 1.2
[15:59:33] <@wrbtrader> Covered Remainder TF Short @ 693.60 --> + 2.1
[16:06:24] <@wrbtrader> Funny trading video @ http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/7107529
[16:09:35] <@wrbtrader> Take care all and see all tomorrow.
[16:10:17] <Inertia> :))
[16:10:36] <winmax60> thanks for the great movie..mark... :-)
[17:01:50] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
Session Close: Wed Oct 13 00:00:00 2010

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#FuturesTrades is free and is a serious professional trading chat room in which any trader can use the chat room to post their trades or commentaries involving futures, exchange traded funds or forex currencies. Simply, you don't need to be a client of TheStrategyLab.com to use the chat room nor do you need to be a price action only trader (no indicators) because some members use indicators while others do not.

Therefore, we welcome all traders with their own trade signal methods and different perspective of the markets. To gain access to #FuturesTrades...please follow the instructions at the below link.

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The purpose of #FuturesTrades is that it's designed to be a trade journal for documentation purposes only so that members can have a time stamp archive of trades and market commentaries of each trading day so that they can better understand their broker statements from one trade to the next trade when they review their performance numbers on any given trading day.

Further, members are not obligated to educate nor help other members but members are encourage to ask questions about any trades or market commentaries that's posted by others.

In addition, our primary job in the free chat room is to moderate the room (keep the peace) because with so many members using different trade signal methods along with different opinions about the market...debates or arguments can easily flare up without moderating. In addition, our presence in the chat room is to ensure it's a spam free chat room during trading although these archived chat logs may contain advertisements for guest visitors.

Commonly discussed trading instruments from futures, exchange traded funds and forex currencies:

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Image NYMEX Energy Futures Light Crude Oil CL, Brent Crude Oil BRN, e-miNY QM and Natural Gas NG

Image COMEX Metal Futures Gold GC, mini-Gold YG, Copper HG and Silver SI

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