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http://www.thestrategylab.com/ftchat/forum/viewforum.php?f=5 Posted by M.A. Perry
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Session Start: Mon Sep 27 09:10:32 2010
Session Ident: #FuturesTrades
[09:10:32] * Now talking in #FuturesTrades
[09:10:32] <@X> [NihabaAshi] Announcement: The new trade posting script v3.7 (replaces v3.6) is posted at your forum in the "Announcements" thread.
[09:18:14] <@wrbtrader_away> Eurex BUND futures having another strong directional price movement all morning so far.
[09:18:20] * wrbtrader_away is now known as wrbtrader
[09:20:23] <@wrbtrader> CNX NIFTY futures gapped up at the open but declined in it's last hour of trading...it almost closed that opening gap.
[09:20:38] <@wrbtrader> Should make for some interesting price action tomorrow in the NIFTY
[09:27:33] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[09:29:58] <@wrbtrader> Emini futures not going to do one of those BIG GAP at the open...this will allow decent volatility to show up in a more predicatable mannner
[09:31:39] <Time4now> good thing
[09:32:16] <+Time4now> we shall see
[09:37:07] <@wrbtrader> Gap in the VIX volatility but normal tight range in the VXX volatility
[09:39:49] <@wrbtrader> Shorts TF @ 666.50 -> medium size
[09:39:54] <@wrbtrader> 4 only
[09:41:16] <@wrbtrader> Covered 1/2 TF Short @ 665.40 --> + 1.1
[09:42:02] <@wrbtrader> trailing @ profit
[09:42:27] <@wrbtrader> Covered Remainder TF Short @ 666.00 --> + 0.5
[09:43:00] <+Time4now> good way to start the week
[09:43:20] <@wrbtrader> That's usually about as good as it gets in this crappy price action...
[09:43:35] <@wrbtrader> Everything after that is a struggle or stressful
[09:43:47] <+Time4now> hmm
[09:45:01] <@wrbtrader> I see tweets (twitter) by folks shorting Oil CL futures...don't see as many Long positions
[09:47:38] <@wrbtrader> Traders still bullish on EuroFX 6E futures and Forex EurUsd currency
[09:51:30] <@wrbtrader> not trusting this support failure because Oil and Gold have stabilized
[09:51:52] <@wrbtrader> in reference to Emini TF briefly pushing below it's support
[09:54:05] * +Time4now long paper 665.7
[09:54:09] * +Time4now tf
[09:55:42] * +Time4now out 2/3 667.2
[09:56:25] * +Time4now out 666.2
[10:02:01] <@wrbtrader> Long TF @ 666.30 -> small size
[10:02:06] <@wrbtrader> 2 only
[10:04:21] <@wrbtrader> chopping around
[10:06:37] <@wrbtrader> Exited all TF Long @ 666.40 --> + 0.1
[10:06:42] <@wrbtrader>
[10:18:43] <@wrbtrader> Long TF @ 666.60 -> small size
[10:18:49] <@wrbtrader> 1 only
[10:19:44] <@wrbtrader> 3 trades so far between 666.50 - 666.30
[10:20:30] <@wrbtrader> I need to expand that because when I don't...I usually start to have trade problems
[10:22:48] <@wrbtrader> Exited TF Long @ 666.70 --> + 0.1
[10:23:07] <@wrbtrader> early exit...be back in about 15 mins...got some distractions here at home
[10:23:15] * wrbtrader is now known as wrbtrader_away
[10:49:21] <+Time4now> slowed to a crawl
[10:57:33] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[11:24:55] <@wrbtrader_away> just got back
[11:26:02] * wrbtrader_away is now known as wrbtrader
[11:28:03] <@wrbtrader> Long TF @ 665.70 -> small size
[11:28:09] <@wrbtrader> 1 + 1
[11:34:29] <@wrbtrader> Exited all TF Long @ 666.20 --> + 0.5
[11:34:36] <@wrbtrader> lost my patience
[11:38:15] <@wrbtrader> long shadow formed on 1min chart
[11:45:56] <@wrbtrader> new support develop but it's weak because it doesn't have help from Oil and Gold
[11:46:18] <@wrbtrader> Shorts TF @ 664.30 -> small size
[11:46:27] <@wrbtrader> 1 only
[11:46:43] <@wrbtrader> intuition fade
[11:47:57] <@wrbtrader> Covered TF Short @ 664.90 --> - 0.6
[11:50:31] <@wrbtrader> Oil and Gold providing support now
[12:01:55] <@wrbtrader> Long TF @ 666.20 -> small size
[12:02:00] <@wrbtrader> 3 only
[12:08:16] <@wrbtrader> Yep...looks like I've been trading around a pivot area with my entries as I suspected earlier
[12:09:35] <@wrbtrader> too many key changes of supply/demand passing through that area
[12:13:27] <@wrbtrader> Long TF @ 665.90 -> Add
[12:14:30] <@wrbtrader> Exited all TF Long @ 664.50 --> - 3.1
[12:15:30] <@wrbtrader> back down to the new support area
[12:24:34] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[12:26:00] <@wrbtrader> Long TF @ 664.10 -> small size
[12:26:20] <@wrbtrader> 3 only with an add there
[12:29:48] <@wrbtrader> tighten stop
[12:30:37] <@wrbtrader> Exited all TF Long @ 664.10 --> 0
[12:30:53] <@wrbtrader> had my stop a mile away...nobody was interested
[12:31:06] <@wrbtrader> moved it to breakeven...they jumped on it
[12:32:14] <@wrbtrader> VIX/VXX still tight trading range...going nowhere
[12:35:28] <@wrbtrader> Long TF @ 664.10 -> small size
[12:35:37] <@wrbtrader> same as before
[12:43:30] <@wrbtrader> trailing @ profit
[12:43:52] <@wrbtrader> hopefully I'm forgotten
[12:46:32] <@wrbtrader>
[12:48:11] <@wrbtrader> As usual...Emini TF is on it's own again.
[12:48:12] <+Time4now> cant watch this much longer,
[12:48:37] <@wrbtrader> No help from anywhere except from Oil and Gold a few minutes today
[12:49:27] <@wrbtrader> To keep it in perspective...there are the some market events schedule from Tues - Fri.
[12:49:43] <@wrbtrader> Hopefully those trading day's will be a lot better than today
[12:50:46] <@wrbtrader> Exited 1/3 TF Long @ 665.10 --> + 1
[12:55:11] <@wrbtrader> many indices coiled (very tight low volatility range)...
[12:55:21] <@wrbtrader> I'm expecting a volatility spike here soon
[12:56:16] <@wrbtrader> Exited Remainder TF Long @ 664.70 --> + 0.6
[13:06:05] <@wrbtrader> levels are thin today (once again)...slicing through on very few contracts
[13:08:51] <@wrbtrader> Long TF @ 665.70 -> small size
[13:08:58] <@wrbtrader> 1 only intuition
[13:09:02] <@wrbtrader> volatility increasing
[13:15:05] <@wrbtrader> Exited TF Long @ 665.40 --> - 0.3
[13:34:25] <@wrbtrader> Long TF @ 666.20 -> small size
[13:34:41] <@wrbtrader> 1 only
[13:41:16] <@wrbtrader> Exited TF Long @ 666.50 --> + 0.3
[13:41:30] <@wrbtrader> be back later
[13:51:05] <@wrbtrader> ok..back
[13:51:31] <@wrbtrader> geeesh...looks like volatility showed its face
[13:54:34] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[14:55:33] <@wrbtrader> Funny...someone sent me an email after reveiwing a few months of the archive logs at the FTCHAT Support Forum...
[14:55:45] <@wrbtrader> He saids I don't post any losing trades
[14:56:16] <@wrbtrader> sure...whatever
[14:57:30] <+Time4now> his loss
[14:58:24] <@wrbtrader> He said he "was not really looking for anything"...he just happen to come across my website while looking for info on Forex
[14:59:20] <codehead> my bigger frame poised for possible pb
[14:59:35] <+codehead> so waiting to see if this is a setup for some last hour pressure
[14:59:57] <@wrbtrader> support failure
[15:00:24] <@wrbtrader> Shorts TF @ 668.00 -> small size
[15:00:46] <@wrbtrader> Shorts TF @ 667.80 -> Add
[15:02:14] <@wrbtrader> nasty looking bullish engulfing setup with tweezer bottom
[15:02:15] <@wrbtrader>
[15:03:19] <@wrbtrader> Hopefully it fails
[15:04:38] <@wrbtrader> Covered all TF Short @ 667.90 --> 0
[15:06:38] <@wrbtrader> Long TF @ 668.40 -> small size
[15:06:43] <@wrbtrader> 3 only
[15:12:17] <Inertia> Shorts TF @ 668.2 «« simulator »»
[15:13:45] <+Time4now> seems like it's going to flatten out.
[15:15:31] <@wrbtrader> Yeah...looks like it wants to go sideways in a tight low volatility range.
[15:15:53] <@wrbtrader> range of like in 5 - 7 ticks in TF
[15:16:46] <@wrbtrader> Exited all TF Long @ 668.00 --> - 0.4
[15:17:23] <+Inertia> Covered 1/2 TF Short @ 667.8 --> + 0.4 «« simulator »»
[15:18:16] <+Inertia> Covered Remainder TF Short @ 667.7 --> + 0.5 «« simulator »»
[15:19:41] <@wrbtrader> Long TF @ 668.00 -> small size
[15:19:57] <@wrbtrader> 2 + 1
[15:20:22] <@wrbtrader> Lets see if it can break out of this chop
[15:22:30] <@wrbtrader> Key price area below is 668.10 - 667.00 as a key change in supply/demand
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[15:25:07] <@wrbtrader> I see people on twitter complaining about crappy price action in DAX_F, EuroFX 6E_F, GG_F and many different Forex Currencies.
[15:25:17] <@wrbtrader> Doesn't look like a happy day
[15:27:58] <+Inertia> I am happy
[15:29:08] <+Time4now> i'm content :|
[15:29:50] <+Inertia> content is better 4 trading
[15:30:10] <+Time4now> i've done a bit
[15:30:31] <+Time4now> mediocre returns
[15:30:35] <+Inertia> bay steps
[15:30:39] <+Inertia> that is the start
[15:30:55] <+Time4now> paper
[15:32:31] <@wrbtrader> Lower shadow of a recent hammer line being tested
[15:32:45] <+Time4now> 5min
[15:33:03] <@wrbtrader> back inside the overall key price area mentioned in prior
[15:33:59] <+Inertia> TF shows resiliance compared with ES and NQ
[15:36:05] <@wrbtrader> Starting to feel like another "wasted" trading day...if I can learn something new...would be worthwhile.
[15:36:34] <@wrbtrader> stop tighten
[15:38:06] <@wrbtrader> VXX showing some life via trying to go higher
[15:39:10] <+Inertia> that RESILIANCE is gone
[15:39:11] <@wrbtrader> Exited all TF Long @ 667.30 --> - 0.7
[15:39:52] <@wrbtrader> testing support
[15:40:41] <@wrbtrader> Shorts TF @ 666.70 -> medium size
[15:40:45] <+Inertia> volume 2day was much lower than the average
[15:40:52] <@wrbtrader> support failure
[15:40:57] <@wrbtrader> increasing volatility
[15:41:13] <@wrbtrader> lets see if it can hold and stabilize BELOW the support
[15:44:25] <@wrbtrader> Shorts TF @ 667.20 -> Add
[15:46:17] <@wrbtrader> Covered 1/3 TF Short @ 665.90 --> + 1.3
[15:48:40] <+codehead> 11:59 codehead: so waiting to see if this is a setup for some last hour pressure
[15:48:49] <+codehead> sheesh, indeed
[15:51:06] <@wrbtrader> Covered 1/3 TF Short @ 665.60 --> + 1.1
[15:52:20] <@wrbtrader> trail @ profit
[15:55:22] <@wrbtrader> 4pm rush hour traffic starting...
[15:55:47] <@wrbtrader> would be nice if volatility starts increasing but with prices dropping further
[15:56:09] <@wrbtrader> NQ and ES trying to push lower
[15:58:57] <@wrbtrader> bad boy TF wants to fight
[15:59:19] <@wrbtrader> Covered Remainder TF Short @ 666.10 --> + 0.6
[15:59:39] <@wrbtrader> Long TF @ 666.30 -> small size
[15:59:44] <@wrbtrader> 3 only
[16:03:48] <@wrbtrader> Exited all TF Long @ 666.60 --> + 0.3
[16:33:54] <+Time4now> gn all
[16:51:35] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
Session Close: Mon Sep 27 23:49:17 2010
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