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 Post subject: April 15th Thursday - Futures, ETFs and Forex Currencies
 Post Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 5:18 pm 
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Session Start: Thu Apr 15 09:26:59 2010
Session Ident: #FuturesTrades
[09:26] * Now talking in #FuturesTrades
[09:26] <@X> [NihabaAshi] Announcement: The new trade posting script v3.7 (replaces v3.6) is posted at your forum in the "Announcements" thread.
[09:28] <rickf> gm all
[09:29] <Sidhartha> gm gm
[09:29] <drt> gm
[09:29] <pat255> gm
[09:31] <mo2t> gm all
[09:31] <JimL1> Shorts TF @ 720.5 «« simulator »»
[09:31] <+JimL1> 1
[09:33] <+JimL1> Covered all TF Short @ 720.2 --> + 0.3 «« simulator »»
[09:34] <+JimL1> tf poked both ways & back inside gotta eait for some volatility & trend/direction
[09:34] <+JimL1> wait
[09:36] <+rickf> long es 1205.50 paper
[09:37] <+JimL1> Long TF @ 720 «« simulator »»
[09:37] <+JimL1> 1
[09:38] <+JimL1> Exited all TF Long @ 720.1 --> + 0.1 «« simulator »»
[09:39] <+JimL1> looked like gc,cl & nq were going to break up, no tf respnse=stracth
[09:39] <@wrbtrader> werner...you asked a question the other day about adding to winning positions ?
[09:40] <@wrbtrader> I'll add to a profitable position if I get another trade signal while the position is still open.
[09:40] <werner> euh yes
[09:41] <+werner> ok thats nice that is what i try to do also :)
[09:41] <+rickf> out 1205.75 +.25 paper
[09:42] <+rickf> trading the 10m today
[09:42] <+mo2t> NQ 1 tick above yest. high
[09:43] <+werner> only to a winning position ...thanks for remaining that question wrbtrader
[09:43] <+rickf> still looking higher i think
[09:43] <+Sidhartha> philly fed in 17 mins
[09:44] <+werner> must go now ...bbl
[09:44] <+JimL1> nq poked above resist & es/tf still consilidating
[09:45] <+JimL1> no signs of strength or weakness in ADD & TICK
[09:45] <+Sidhartha> ADD is advance decline line...?
[09:46] <jbuch> gm all
[09:46] <+JimL1> y
[09:54] <+Sidhartha> pure chop waiting for hr philly fed
[09:57] <+Sidhartha> waiting for the 'leak move'
[09:58] <+pat255> what time news?
[09:58] <+Sidhartha> 2 mins
[09:58] <+pat255> ty
[10:00] <+Sidhartha> 20.2
[10:01] <+Sidhartha> in line
[10:02] <+codehead> took a little heat from 2027.75, added 2029.50... got out of the first way too soon... mae just a little overall
[10:02] <+codehead> should be holding now too, front-ran the signal
[10:02] <+codehead> gotta stop doing that
[10:03] <+JimL1> they tried to push it dwn & didn't go the 1st time
[10:03] <@X> #FuturesTrades Purpose -> Members use this room to document (trade journal) their trades and thoughts from one trade to the next trade because it provides critical information they can't get from broker statements nor statistics. Also, mimicking the trades by others is not recommended. More info about the chat room @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/ftchat/forum
[10:05] <+jbuch> Long ES @ 1206.25
[10:06] <@wrbtrader> Long TF @ 7201.20 -> medium size
[10:06] <@wrbtrader> 4 only
[10:06] <@wrbtrader> intuition because I missed my entry via 5 ticks
[10:07] <@wrbtrader> correction
[10:07] <+rickf> welp my 10m trade would have been a winner had i held
[10:07] <@wrbtrader> Long TF @ 721.20 -> medium size
[10:07] <+rickf> had to see how the candles worked though - no regrets though
[10:09] <+JimL1> they couldn't push it dwn sothey 'll go up, had signal @ 720.1 missed & chased 720.3, 4, &6 gave up :<
[10:09] <+jbuch> Exited all ES Long @ 1207.25 --> + 1
[10:09] <+pat255> vn
[10:09] <+pat255> geez L is the only way
[10:11] <@wrbtrader> Exited 3/4 TF Long @ 722.30 --> + 1.1
[10:11] <@wrbtrader> volatility still rising
[10:12] <+JimL1> 25 tick move in tf
[10:12] <+jbuch> I plan on being very cautious and and only using 1 or 2 contracts until the markets retrace
[10:12] <+jbuch> tick plummeting
[10:14] <+pat255> no p/b amazing
[10:15] <+rickf> buy buy buy
[10:15] <+jbuch> plummeting was a bit of a dramatization :)
[10:15] <+Sidhartha> what internals do people here look at...? TICK, ADD, net issues...? anything else...?
[10:17] <+JimL1> ADD & TICK
[10:17] <+JimL1> Shorts TF @ 722.3 «« simulator »»
[10:17] <+JimL1> 2
[10:19] <+JimL1> Covered all TF Short @ 721 --> + 1.3 «« simulator »»
[10:19] <+rickf> sid: i don't track internals
[10:19] <@wrbtrader> I like ADD and VIX
[10:19] <+rickf> not regularly, anyway
[10:20] <@wrbtrader> I have trouble sometimes recognizing "tight trading ranges" and the ADD and VIX helps me see that quickly (as it is occurring).
[10:20] <+JimL1> 722 +.3 I stracthed cuz I broke my reules & entered too early, I jumped in too soon
[10:20] <+jbuch> just tick here and I always forget to look at that even :)
[10:21] <+JimL1> gotta run - no more trading from me
[10:21] <+rickf> i use the vix for deciding whenoptions are 'cheap' to buy
[10:21] <+rickf> (like now)
[10:21] <Risk> talking about VIX; VIX on a daily basis is as low as it was at the peak of the market in late 2007
[10:22] <+rickf> yeah
[10:22] <@wrbtrader> It's buddy that's slowly getting more traders into is the VXX
[10:23] <@wrbtrader> I prefer now watching the VXX because it's based on trades and not a 15 sec update
[10:23] <+rickf> oh really?
[10:25] <+rickf> intersting
[10:25] <@wrbtrader> yeah...you should put up both those charts of the $VIX and VXX
[10:25] <@wrbtrader> You'll easily see the difference
[10:25] <+rickf> doign that now
[10:26] <+jbuch> was looking at the weekly charts and thinking about the last 2 times we were on our way up and hitting these levels in 99 and 05
[10:26] <@wrbtrader> VXX is an iPath exchange traded fund
[10:26] <+rickf> hrmm vxx smoother chart ont he daily than vix
[10:27] <+rickf> smoother on other tf's too
[10:27] <+rickf> interesting
[10:27] <+jbuch> the economic climate was soooooo much stronger than it is now
[10:30] <@wrbtrader> Yeah...I've been meeting more and more folks with two jobs...with one of the jobs as "under the table" income as in not tax reporting :)
[10:31] <+pat255> in canada how do they do it?
[10:31] <+pat255> just work on the side?
[10:32] <@wrbtrader> For example...the gal that works fulltime at the Sushi bar is also an "architecture photographer" (fulltime)...she only takes cash.
[10:32] <@wrbtrader> Thus, usually on the side jobs are "cash only".
[10:32] <+pat255> k ...thks
[10:33] <@wrbtrader> Yeah...usually when someone tells me "cash only"...I know what's up.
[10:33] <@wrbtrader> :)
[10:33] <+pat255> N u got the only entry possible & jb
[10:34] <+Sidhartha> loads of that here in London
[10:34] <+Sidhartha> I pay people in cash all the time...
[10:35] <+Sidhartha> works out cheaper... what they do with it, I don't want to know!
[10:35] <@wrbtrader> :)
[10:44] <+Sidhartha> new highs everywhere... just blue sky when you look backwards across the charts at these levels.
[10:44] <+pat255> tuff to tarde here
[10:47] <@wrbtrader> Exited Remainder TF Long @ 723.50 --> + 2.3
[10:47] <+pat255> vvn
[10:47] <+Sidhartha> nice
[10:47] <xtractor> just go long pat :)
[10:48] <+rickf> holy hell ... TOS has frozen and locked me out *again*
[10:54] <+rickf> back in
[10:54] <luffy> sup folks
[10:54] <+rickf> ES at 1209.50 ish?
[10:54] <+luffy> good to see all the old faces still here...
[10:54] <+rickf> heya
[10:55] <+luffy> old screen names.. lol
[10:55] <+luffy> been off irc for awhile
[10:55] <+luffy> sup rick
[10:55] <+rickf> not much - welcome back
[10:56] <+luffy> thnx
[10:56] <+luffy> feels like i was here yesterday lol
[10:56] <+rickf> ;)
[10:56] <+luffy> any big changes last couple months?
[10:56] <+rickf> nope ...
[10:57] <+luffy> lol k
[10:57] <+luffy> well i'm still not profitable :(
[10:57] <+luffy> Be-1 trader
[10:57] <+rickf> :(
[10:57] <+luffy> need to work on my exits
[10:57] <+luffy> how about u rick?
[10:57] <+luffy> u doing good?
[10:57] <+rickf> trading less, doing better, yes
[10:58] <+rickf> not 'good' but 'acceptable'
[10:58] <+luffy> anything in green is good
[10:58] <+luffy> how many trades u making a day?
[10:59] <+rickf> 2-3 maybe
[10:59] <+rickf> IF that
[10:59] <+luffy> i'm doing 1-2 a day
[10:59] <+rickf> been distracted in recent months, and i'm being very selective
[10:59] <+luffy> but only in the first 2 hours
[10:59] <+luffy> would be very good but
[10:59] <+luffy> 1 day i decided to avg down
[10:59] <+luffy> was quad witch day
[10:59] <+luffy> lost 2 month of winnings
[10:59] <+Sidhartha> jeez
[10:59] <+luffy> was positive for 2 mo straight
[10:59] <+Sidhartha> nasty
[10:59] <+rickf> ;(
[10:59] <+luffy> for feb and march
[11:00] <+luffy> so i learned not to do that
[11:00] <+luffy> other than dat 1 day
[11:00] <+luffy> i'm up every month last couple month
[11:00] <+luffy> up most weeks too
[11:00] <+luffy> but just soooo slow
[11:00] <+Sidhartha> I think everyone has to experience something similar at one stage... I now have a tattoo on my arm 'NEVER average'
[11:00] <+luffy> this week i'm up like 6.7 pts
[11:00] <+luffy> haha yea
[11:01] <+luffy> oh yea i'm doing nq too
[11:01] <+luffy> so the shit never pays for anything
[11:01] <+luffy> are u guys still all doing es?
[11:01] <+Sidhartha> it is damn slow... for sure
[11:01] <+luffy> was on wrb's site, looks like he only trades tf now right?
[11:01] <+Sidhartha> yup
[11:01] <+luffy> are u guys doing tf too?
[11:01] <+Sidhartha> I think jbuch only one trading ES...?
[11:01] <+luffy> or es still
[11:01] <+Sidhartha> not TF
[11:02] <+Sidhartha> sorry
[11:02] <+luffy> huh?
[11:02] <+Sidhartha> NO... TF only
[11:02] <+rickf> i do es, 6e
[11:02] <+rickf> paper trading options on crude too
[11:02] <+Sidhartha> ohh ok
[11:02] <+luffy> ok so mostly tf
[11:03] <+luffy> how many u guys doing the wrb style?
[11:03] <+luffy> buying the long candles
[11:04] <+Sidhartha> I am... it and variations of
[11:05] <+Sidhartha> buying the long candles...?
[11:05] <+luffy> hammers
[11:05] <+luffy> i guess
[11:05] <+luffy> wide range bars
[11:05] <+luffy> i'm reading his thread on et now
[11:05] <+luffy> http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthrea ... genumber=1
[11:05] <+luffy> have u guys read this?
[11:06] <+Sidhartha> No... that dates back to 2005!
[11:06] <+luffy> well... anything newer u can recommend? :)
[11:07] <+Sidhartha> I don't do near the forums these days
[11:07] <+luffy> ok et is bad mostly
[11:07] <+jbuch> hey luffy what is happening man :)
[11:07] <+Sidhartha> Al Brooks book 'bar by bar' seems a good place to start
[11:07] <+luffy> sup jb
[11:08] <+luffy> yea i was in al's room for a month
[11:08] <+luffy> very good
[11:08] <+luffy> learned alot
[11:08] <+luffy> but i'm not comfortable trading 5min bars
[11:08] <+luffy> i like tick charts
[11:08] <+Risk> do a search on "NihabaAshi" & c what comes up
[11:08] <+Sidhartha> tick a bit too much for me... anything lower than 1 min I leave alone... mainly trade 2, 3 and 5
[11:08] <+luffy> i'm trading larger tick charts
[11:09] <+luffy> eq to maybe 3 min and higher
[11:09] <+luffy> thnx risk i'll do a search
[11:11] <+luffy> he hasnt posted anything since feb
[11:11] <+luffy> maybe he's sick of et too
[11:12] <+jbuch> I don't like 5 min bars don't like time based entries and exits but have noticed that his H2 and L2's and failed H2 and L2's after a trend break usually match my criteria exactly.
[11:13] <+luffy> cool just a different way to look at it
[11:13] <+luffy> i like his patience
[11:13] <+luffy> and spoting for channels
[11:13] <+luffy> took away some stuff
[11:13] <+rickf> ticks seemed handy but i kept getting whipped around
[11:13] <+luffy> still gotta watch all this march vids... way behind
[11:13] <+luffy> i use 500+tick charts
[11:14] <+luffy> tried small ticks just got killed
[11:24] <+codehead> bigger frame turning
[11:26] <+luffy> has oicu been in the rrom lately?
[11:33] <@X> #FuturesTrades Purpose -> Members use this room to document (trade journal) their trades and thoughts from one trade to the next trade because it provides critical information they can't get from broker statements nor statistics. Also, mimicking the trades by others is not recommended. More info about the chat room @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/ftchat/forum
[11:35] <+luffy> hey rick, do u trade 6e only certain hours
[11:35] <+luffy> like rth for stock mrkt
[11:35] <+rickf> mostly 0830-1130 and 1430-close
[11:36] <+luffy> ah cool
[11:36] <+luffy> i was looking at 6e too but it seems to move the 830 and also the euro open
[11:36] <+luffy> so u have 2 chances
[11:36] <+luffy> but fuck i need to sleep
[11:36] <+luffy> lol
[11:37] <+rickf> l)
[11:38] <+luffy> gonna go home, almost midnight here
[11:38] <+luffy> peace out
[11:38] <+rickf> cya
[11:41] <+Sidhartha> where are you luffy...?
[11:48] <@wrbtrader> Shorts TF @ 720.00 -> small size
[11:48] <@wrbtrader> 2 only
[11:49] <@wrbtrader> Covered all TF Short @ 720.20 --> - 0.2
[11:49] <@wrbtrader> trade error
[11:50] <@wrbtrader> Long TF @ 720.20 -> small size
[11:50] <@wrbtrader> 2 only
[11:51] <@wrbtrader> tighten stop
[11:57] <@wrbtrader> Exited all TF Long @ 719.90 --> - 0.3
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[12:02] <@wrbtrader> Shorts TF @ 719.50 -> medium size
[12:02] <@wrbtrader> 4 only
[12:03] <@wrbtrader> volatility increasing
[12:03] <+rickf> wow ... straight up and straight down
[12:04] <@wrbtrader> Covered all TF Short @ 719.80 --> - 0.3
[12:08] <+rickf> bbl
[12:10] <@wrbtrader> Shorts TF @ 719.60 -> medium size
[12:10] <@wrbtrader> 4 only
[12:10] <@wrbtrader> trying it again
[12:14] <@wrbtrader> Covered all TF Short @ 719.80 --> - 0.2
[12:19] <@wrbtrader> Long TF @ 720.50 -> medium size
[12:19] <@wrbtrader> 4 only
[12:19] <@wrbtrader> geeesh...it showed up and suddenly dies
[12:22] <@wrbtrader> Exited all TF Long @ 720.50 --> 0
[12:22] <@wrbtrader> VXX has it ranging now...volatility is dead :(
[12:24] <@wrbtrader> Shorts TF @ 720.00 -> small size
[12:24] <@wrbtrader> 2 only
[12:25] <@wrbtrader> Covered all TF Short @ 719.90 --> + 0.1
[12:48] <@wrbtrader> Long TF @ 721.20 -> small size
[12:48] <@wrbtrader> TF in creeper mode after getting above that low volatility range
[13:02] <@wrbtrader> Exited all TF Long @ 721.50 --> + 0.3
[13:02] <@wrbtrader> :(
[13:03] <@X> #FuturesTrades Purpose -> Members use this room to document (trade journal) their trades and thoughts from one trade to the next trade because it provides critical information they can't get from broker statements nor statistics. Also, mimicking the trades by others is not recommended. More info about the chat room @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/ftchat/forum
[13:30] <+rickf> basck
[14:33] <@X> #FuturesTrades Purpose -> Members use this room to document (trade journal) their trades and thoughts from one trade to the next trade because it provides critical information they can't get from broker statements nor statistics. Also, mimicking the trades by others is not recommended. More info about the chat room @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/ftchat/forum
[14:41] <@wrbtrader> just got back
[14:48] <+codehead> ES still trying to chew 1210
[14:55] <@wrbtrader> Long TF @ 723.70 -> small size
[14:55] <@wrbtrader> 2 only
[14:56] <@wrbtrader> Hit that 724 wall and fell down :(
[15:00] <@wrbtrader> Here we go again...if it fails again...I'll go to the sidelined and wait for a volatility spike.
[15:01] <@wrbtrader> Exited all TF Long @ 723.70 --> 0
[15:01] <@wrbtrader> sidelined
[15:08] <t> Shorts YM @ es
[15:14] <+Risk> [15:08:29] <t> Shorts YM @ es that is a very good price :)
[15:20] <+rickf> jeez
[15:21] <+rickf> like 1pt range since 1330
[15:24] <+rickf> sidelined --- gonna go rest eyes and check mail instead. have a good evening, i'm gonna enjoy som eof this great spring weather now. :)
[15:25] <+Risk> ES looks like it is going down but TF looks the opposite.
[15:25] <+Risk> rickf...
[15:28] <@wrbtrader> Shorts TF @ 723.00 -> small size
[15:28] <@wrbtrader> 3 only
[15:28] <@wrbtrader> intuition
[15:29] <+codehead> yeah, i have similar intuition
[15:29] <@wrbtrader> volatility increasing
[15:29] <+codehead> NQ been pretty divergent for a while, ripe for a rug-pull
[15:30] <+codehead> i stopped trading a while ago, took some poor trade early, then a bunch that were great entries but i'd take like 1-3 ticks to exit rather than risk another stop-out
[15:30] <@wrbtrader> It still can easily pop back up into that problematic range of 723.60 - 723.00
[15:30] <+codehead> most of what i'm down is commish, 20 tiny trades
[15:31] <+codehead> GOOG earnings tonight i think
[15:31] <@wrbtrader> Covered all TF Short @ 723.10 --> - 0.1
[15:31] <@wrbtrader> :(
[15:31] <@wrbtrader> It's back :(
[15:32] <Hen> Tomorrow will be a nice day for tech if GOOG has good earnings and forward guidance, if they can reassure investors/traders that the China issue will not affect the stock we should go much higher
[15:32] <@wrbtrader> Shorts TF @ 722.90 -> medium size
[15:32] <@wrbtrader> 4 only
[15:32] <+codehead> NQ getting pressured now
[15:32] <@wrbtrader> same trade
[15:32] <+codehead> thought it would, dang
[15:33] <@wrbtrader> come on...just 2 more ticks
[15:34] <@wrbtrader> tighten trail
[15:34] <+werner> back of motoscross with my son
[15:35] <@wrbtrader> Covered all TF Short @ 722.80 --> + 0.1
[15:36] <@wrbtrader> feels like a stop runner
[15:37] <+Hen> Coming up GOOG, we will see either major buying or major dumping
[15:41] <+werner> djeez... its so nice to see your son to do like i did in my old days.... i like it when the kids are between 12/16 years old..:)
[15:41] <+Risk> werner r u losing it?
[15:41] <+werner> ??
[15:42] <+Risk> what's this about kids?
[15:43] <+werner> indd... but like wrbtrader some times say.... my kids is my life
[15:43] <+werner> some time you have to take time for your kids
[15:44] <+Risk> y
[15:45] <+werner> if you dont have them you wil never understand that
[15:46] <+codehead> i have this trading problem, i need to overcome... if i get down a certain amount, maybe a couple fo stop-outs in a row...
[15:46] <+codehead> even if i realize they were not proper trade entries...
[15:46] <+codehead> i let them influence the trades that follow
[15:46] <+werner> there is more than trading ....
[15:47] <+codehead> for instance, i had 6 of last 7 trades winners
[15:47] <+werner> in a life time
[15:47] <+codehead> and the one loss a 1-pt
[15:47] <+codehead> 1 tick
[15:47] <+codehead> i mean
[15:47] <+codehead> but...
[15:47] <+codehead> i let none of the trades go to where i knew they would
[15:47] <+codehead> know what i mean?
[15:47] <+codehead> letting earlier trades influence current ones?
[15:47] <+codehead> need each trade to be "new"
[15:48] <+codehead> reasonable stop, reasonable target
[15:48] <@wrbtrader> Long TF @ 722.90 -> medium size
[15:49] <@wrbtrader> 4 only
[15:53] <@wrbtrader> Who stole my volatility ?
[15:53] <@wrbtrader> :)
[15:54] <+codehead> it wasn't me, believe me
[15:55] <@wrbtrader> especially going into the 4pm rush hour traffic
[15:56] <@wrbtrader> It's been awhile since I've seen it dry up like this so close to 4pm
[15:56] <+codehead> options expiry tomorrow
[15:56] <+codehead> lotta worthless puts
[15:58] <@wrbtrader> Exited all TF Long @ 722.40 --> - 0.5
[15:58] <@wrbtrader> they can put that trade :(
[15:59] <@wrbtrader> At least it keeps trying but someone keeps putting a top on that volatility
[15:59] <@wrbtrader> sucks up all the contracts in a very tight range
[16:00] <@wrbtrader> Long TF @ 722.70 -> medium size
[16:00] <@wrbtrader> 4 only
[16:01] <@wrbtrader> wow...they did it again...increasing volatility in 3 tick range
[16:01] <+codehead> GOOG
[16:01] <+codehead> had a hunch that was a setup
[16:01] <+codehead> just didn't want to risk anouther NT stop
[16:03] <@X> #FuturesTrades Purpose -> Members use this room to document (trade journal) their trades and thoughts from one trade to the next trade because it provides critical information they can't get from broker statements nor statistics. Also, mimicking the trades by others is not recommended. More info about the chat room @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/ftchat/forum
[16:05] <@wrbtrader> Exited all TF Long @ 723.00 --> + 0.3
[16:05] <@wrbtrader> punks
[16:06] <+Risk> lucky u Mark
[16:06] <@wrbtrader> Only good thing about that late afternoon low volatility trading session is that if there's no overnight news...
[16:06] <@wrbtrader> We'll have a high probability for a strong directional price movement out of the gate tomorrow.
[16:08] <@wrbtrader> I'll remind the room about tomrrow morning around 0930am est about what I just said.
[16:08] <@wrbtrader> Hopefully we don't get some enormous GAP at the open.
[16:10] <@wrbtrader> Remember this area...
[16:10] <@wrbtrader> [15:30] <@wrbtrader> It still can easily pop back up into that problematic range of 723.60 - 723.00
[16:10] <+Risk> MArk can you publish som eof your observation regarding certain marke tconditions and their impact on the next trading day?
[16:11] <@wrbtrader> I talk about a few things in here "sometimes" just prior to such occuring.
[16:12] <@wrbtrader> However, I won't put it in a nice file for someone :)
[16:12] <@wrbtrader> People just needs to pay attention or be here when I say something involving "intraday tendencies"
[16:14] <+Risk> :(
[16:14] <+Risk> you should write a book with your observations
[16:17] <+werner> risk see p2p ...tx
[16:17] <+werner> gn all
[16:19] <+codehead> yeah, that sounds reasonable wrb
[16:19] <+codehead> seems like that market is "set up"
[16:19] <+Risk> 4 what?
[16:20] <+codehead> question is... can we get any downside before expiry is over?
[16:20] <+codehead> if i knew...
[16:20] <+Risk> :))
[16:20] <+codehead> i'd be a wealthy man
[16:20] <+codehead> we didn't quite hit ES next level
[16:21] <+codehead> i mentioned that Aria (Vegas) comped us pretty good for the buggy technology
[16:22] <+codehead> gf wrote them an email, and they added 2 free nights stay for next time as well
[16:22] <@wrbtrader> [16:14] <+Risk> you should write a book with your observations
[16:22] <+codehead> so i guess i'm going back to vegas some time
[16:23] <@wrbtrader> I have a .doc file of such but won't release it until late this year or next year for specific trading instruments.
[16:24] <+Risk> we'll b waiting
[16:24] <jbuch> hey everybody just got back in hope ya all hade a good day.
[16:25] <+codehead> had a sucky day, jb, but not too awful
[16:25] <+codehead> ;-)
[16:27] <+jbuch> another range day tough stuff
[16:30] <+jbuch> for me at least
[17:30] <@X> #FuturesTrades Purpose -> Members use this room to document (trade journal) their trades and thoughts from one trade to the next trade because it provides critical information they can't get from broker statements nor statistics. Also, mimicking the trades by others is not recommended. More info about the chat room @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/ftchat/forum
Session Close: Thu Apr 15 20:34:35 2010

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Image NYMEX Energy Futures Light Crude Oil CL, e-miNY QM and Natural Gas NG

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Image Hang Seng Index Futures HSI and mini-Hang Seng MHI

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