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Posted by M.A. Perry
Trader and Founder of
WRB Analysis (wide range body analysis)
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Session Start: Tue Mar 16 08:56:28 2010
Session Ident: #FuturesTrades
[08:56] * Now talking in #FuturesTrades
[08:56] <@X> [NihabaAshi] Announcement: The new trade posting script v3.7 (replaces v3.6) is posted at your forum in the "Announcements" thread.
[09:06] <pat255>
all
[09:06] <+pat255> still machine issues ..
[09:29] <drt>
everyone
[09:29] <Tigerman> Hi all
[09:32] <werner>
all
[09:34] <+Tigerman> Shorts ES @ 72.5 «« simulator »»
[09:34] <+Tigerman> Covered all ES Short @ 672.5 --> - 600 «« simulator »»
[09:35] <+Tigerman> Shorts TF @ 672.5 «« simulator »»
[09:35] <+Tigerman> Covered 1/4 TF Short @ 672.2 --> + 0.3 «« simulator »»
[09:36] <+Tigerman> Covered 1/4 TF Short @ 672.3 --> + 0.2 «« simulator »»
[09:36] <+pat255> L 47.5
[09:36] <+Tigerman> Covered Remainder TF Short @ 672.4 --> + 0.1 «« simulator »»
[09:37] <+Tigerman> do not consider my first post on ES
[09:37] <+Tigerman> I mean use TF but channel was on default on ES
[09:38] <+Tigerman> price fight @ important resistance
[09:39] <@X> #FuturesTrades Purpose -> Members use this room to document (trade journal) their trades and thoughts from one trade to the next trade because it provides critical information they can't get from broker statements nor statistics. Also, mimicking the trades by others is not recommended. More info about the chat room @
http://www.thestrategylab.com/ftchat/forum[09:40] <jbuch> good morning everyone
[09:40] <@wrbtrader> Shorts TF @ 671.60 -> medium size
[09:40] <+pat255>
jb
[09:40] <+pat255> out b/e
[09:40] <+jbuch> sold half of my sso long position this am
[09:41] <@wrbtrader> 4 only
[09:41] <+jbuch> hey pat how haveyou been
[09:41] <+pat255> k struggling with computer problems
[09:43] <@wrbtrader> Covered 1/2 TF Short @ 670.50 --> + 1.1
[09:43] <+Tigerman> nice wrb
[09:44] <@wrbtrader> intutition trade and a late entry
[09:44] <@wrbtrader> accidentally deleted some charts...had to reset them up.
[09:45] <@wrbtrader> weak support area
[09:47] <@wrbtrader> Covered Remainder TF Short @ 671.40 --> + 0.2
[09:47] <@wrbtrader>
[09:48] <@wrbtrader> that's what happens when chasing...no wiggle room to fight off a weak counter-thrust
[09:48] <+Tigerman> Shorts TF @ 671.2 «« simulator »»
[09:48] <+pat255> y
[09:48] <+jbuch> Shorts ES @ 1147
[09:49] <+Tigerman> Covered 1/4 TF Short @ 671.1 --> + 0.1 «« simulator »»
[09:50] <+Tigerman> Covered 1/4 TF Short @ 670.9 --> + 0.3 «« simulator »»
[09:50] <@wrbtrader> Shorts TF @ 670.80 -> small size
[09:50] <@wrbtrader> 2 only
[09:50] <+Tigerman> Covered 1/4 TF Short @ 670.7 --> + 0.5 «« simulator »»
[09:50] <+Tigerman> only 1 contract remain
[09:50] <+jbuch> Covered 1/2 ES Short @ 1146.25 --> + 0.75
[09:51] <+Tigerman> wow go south
[09:52] <+Tigerman> Covered Remainder TF Short @ 670 --> + 1.2 «« simulator »»
[09:53] <+jbuch> Covered Remainder ES Short @ 1146.25 --> + 0.75
[09:54] <+jbuch> just don't trust the ability of the bears to push this market down
[09:54] <+pat255> y
[09:54] <@wrbtrader> Covered all TF Short @ 670.20 --> + 0.6
[09:54] <@wrbtrader> oooops
[09:54] <@wrbtrader> Covered all TF Short @ 670.70 --> + 0.1
[09:55] <+jbuch> got out of my first half to fast and then freaked out when it poped back up to the down trend line
[09:56] <+pat255> what tf chart jb?
[09:56] <+pat255> 2m
[09:56] <+jbuch> huge vol spike 10 min before the markets opened
[09:56] <@wrbtrader> Long TF @ 670.50 -> small size
[09:56] <@wrbtrader> 2 only
[09:56] <+jbuch> 1 min
[09:56] <+pat255> k
[10:00] <@wrbtrader> Exited all TF Long @ 672.10 --> + 1.6
[10:00] <+werner> vn
[10:01] <+pat255> vn
[10:01] <+jbuch> Long ES @ 1147.25
[10:03] <+Tigerman> when this up run is over I look for a short
[10:04] <+Tigerman> Shorts TF @ 672.2 «« simulator »»
[10:05] <+Tigerman> Covered 1/4 TF Short @ 672 --> + 0.2 «« simulator »»
[10:06] <+Tigerman> Covered 1/4 TF Short @ 671.8 --> + 0.4 «« simulator »»
[10:06] <+Tigerman> Covered 1/4 TF Short @ 671.10 --> + 1.1 «« simulator »»
[10:06] <+Tigerman> oops
[10:07] <+Tigerman> Covered 1/4 TF Short @ 672.10 --> + 0.1 «« simulator »»
[10:07] <+Tigerman> Covered Remainder TF Short @ 672.10 --> + 0.1 «« simulator »»
[10:10] <+jbuch> Exited all ES Long @ 1148.25 --> + 1
[10:11] <@wrbtrader> FYI - Today is a FOMC Meeting Announcement @ 2:15pm est
[10:12] <@wrbtrader> Be careful after the morning volatility dries up
[10:12] <+Tigerman> yes thanks to remaind it
[10:12] <+pat255> yes
[10:12] <+Tigerman> infact then everyone wait for FED release
[10:13] <+Tigerman> just 2 cent opinion the rate stay the same
[10:14] <+pat255> y they are killing us my small $$ make no interest
[10:18] <+Tigerman> wait for this down move dry up
[10:19] <+Tigerman> look for support develop
[10:24] <+Tigerman> Long TF @ 670.8 «« simulator »»
[10:25] <+Tigerman> wow almost kick me out for 1 tick
[10:25] <+Tigerman> 672.5 is a nice target
[10:26] <+Tigerman> Exited 1/4 TF Long @ 671.7 --> + 0.9 «« simulator »»
[10:27] <+Tigerman> Exited 1/4 TF Long @ 671.7 --> + 0.9 «« simulator »»
[10:27] <+Tigerman> Exited 1/4 TF Long @ 671.6 --> + 0.8 «« simulator »»
[10:29] <+Tigerman> Exited Remainder TF Long @ 671.8 --> + 1 «« simulator »»
[10:39] <+Tigerman> Shorts TF @ 672.5 «« simulator »»
[10:39] <+Tigerman> 4 only
[10:39] <@wrbtrader> Shorts TF @ 672.20 -> small size
[10:39] <+Tigerman> just to copy
[10:40] <@wrbtrader> 3 only
[10:40] <+Tigerman> Covered 1/4 TF Short @ 672.3 --> + 0.2 «« simulator »»
[10:40] <+Tigerman> Covered 1/4 TF Short @ 672.3 --> + 0.2 «« simulator »»
[10:40] <@wrbtrader> Might not get as lucky to escape this late entry trade as I did the other
[10:40] <+Tigerman> hope so gor you
[10:41] <+Tigerman> Covered 1/4 TF Short @ 672.4 --> + 0.1 «« simulator »»
[10:41] <+Tigerman> 1 remainer
[10:41] <+Tigerman> go down baby
[10:42] <@wrbtrader> FYI - I won't be trading on Mar 18th Thurs due to one of the kids having minor surgery on his ear.
[10:42] <+Tigerman> yeah they listen me
[10:42] <@wrbtrader> Covered 2/3 TF Short @ 671.80 --> + 0.4
[10:42] <+Tigerman> Covered Remainder TF Short @ 671.8 --> + 0.7 «« simulator »»
[10:43] <+Tigerman> good luck wrb for your kid
[10:43] <@wrbtrader> thanks
[10:43] <@wrbtrader> Covered Remainder TF Short @ 672.20 --> 0
[10:45] <+Tigerman> wrb you got the option to exit in profit
[10:45] <+Tigerman> also with the entry
[10:45] <+Tigerman> do you planned to get more profit on that
[10:46] <@wrbtrader> Yeah...houdini escape on that trade.
[10:46] <@wrbtrader> It was a trade error...any profit was lucky
[10:46] <@wrbtrader> stupid trade
[10:47] <+Tigerman> yep we are always tempted to trade
[10:47] <+Tigerman> also when the odds are not so clear
[10:47] <+Tigerman> but on the others side I sometimes
[10:48] <+Tigerman> scared to push the trigger
[10:48] <+Tigerman> so not in position when nice trade oportunity was there
[10:49] <+Tigerman> but in hindsight is easy,in real time is always very hard
[10:49] <@wrbtrader> true
[10:55] <TraderG> Shorts GC @ 1123.6 «« simulator »»
[10:57] <+TraderG> Covered all GC Short @ 1125.6 --> - 2 «« simulator »»
[10:58] <+jbuch> man I was just thinking to myself to myself" nice looking wedge at the HOD, I should try and catch a long
[10:59] <+jbuch> talked myself out of it feared that the volatility had dried up
[11:00] <+jbuch> impressive movement for an fomc day
[11:00] <+werner> mist that long also
[11:01] <JimL1> must be some news or rumor, but can';t find anything
[11:02] <+werner> too much thinking here
[11:02] <screenstruck> got that spike
[11:02] <+jbuch> same here werner
[11:02] <+screenstruck> had been scratching all day
[11:03] <+jbuch> nice screen
[11:03] <+TraderG> <iNews> 11:02ET Pepsi to cut sugary drinks from schools worldwide
[11:03] <+TraderG> i think this is it
[11:03] <+screenstruck> shutting platform down to avoid giving it baqack eheheh
[11:03] <+jbuch> lol
[11:03] <+screenstruck> no
[11:03] <+screenstruck> Geithner: 'No Way' US Wont Maintain 'AAA' Credit Rating
[11:04] <+TraderG> 'No Way', US Wont Maintain 'AAA' Credit Rating
[11:04] <+TraderG> maybe this is what he meant
[11:04] <+TraderG> (the position of the comma)
[11:04] <+screenstruck> lol
[11:05] <+TraderG> Shorts GC @ 1123.6 «« simulator »»
[11:06] <@X> #FuturesTrades Purpose -> Members use this room to document (trade journal) their trades and thoughts from one trade to the next trade because it provides critical information they can't get from broker statements nor statistics. Also, mimicking the trades by others is not recommended. More info about the chat room @
http://www.thestrategylab.com/ftchat/forum[11:06] <+jbuch> Long ES @ 1151.75
[11:07] <+TraderG> i guess that was an "I am board" trade JB
[11:07] * codehead_afk is now known as codehead
[11:07] <+screenstruck> nah
[11:07] <+screenstruck> consolidation on high trade
[11:11] <+TraderG> board = bored (wrong spelling)
[11:11] <+jbuch> Long ES @ 1151 -> Add
[11:12] <+TraderG> the reality is that I am almost climbing on the walls here so I am doing trades against my rules
[11:16] <+jbuch> now the volatility has dried up
[11:17] <+TraderG> but it is going your way
[11:17] <+jbuch> Exited all ES Long @ 1151.75 --> + 0.75
[11:17] <+TraderG> i suspect that JB has a pact with the devil
[11:18] <+jbuch> crappy dumb entry and a crappy dumb exit
[11:18] <@wrbtrader> Oil still creeping higher
[11:19] <+TraderG> i cannt wait 4 the day that solar and other alternative energy otions become viable
[11:23] <@wrbtrader> reading some commentary on $EURUSD forex @
http://stocktwits.com/symbol/EURUSD [11:23] <+TraderG>
http://wishingwealthblog.com/ Cramer did it again
[11:26] <+codehead> late post, shorted 1928.75 NQ, already took 6 ticks
[11:26] <+jbuch> he is full of bad advice
[11:26] <+codehead> not sure whether it's time to call a top, but had divergence on macd
[11:27] <+codehead> got up late, struggling with a cold lately
[11:28] <+TraderG> ask Cramer. he said on the day of the announcement of the iPad that AAPL will fall. look where it is now
[11:30] <+jbuch> I read something a while back about a guy who had backtested doing the complete opposite of what crammer says. He had great results
[11:30] <+codehead> yes, fade cramer
[11:30] <+TraderG> there are sites that track his predictions and as far as I can tell on average 1 would b a loser if he followed his advice
[11:32] <+TraderG> obviously CNBC makes money on him somehow. otherwise i c no reason to keep him. He looks 2 me like he belongs inan institution (not a financial institution)
[11:33] <+jbuch> I think rednecks like him
[11:34] <+Tigerman> ok done for today see ya next time
[11:34] <+Tigerman> bye
[11:37] <Sidhartha> TG there are people on CNBC who are just perma bulls.... Dennis Neil & Larry Cudlow where bullish right through 2007 -09
[11:37] <+Sidhartha> they were getting their arses handed to them on a plate every day... and were still bullish
[11:38] <+Sidhartha> it's was hilarious entertainment as you said yesterday
[11:38] <+TraderG> Cudlow as far as I am concerned is in the same group as Cramer (they were in a show 2gether)
[11:38] <+Sidhartha> a pair of idiots yes
[11:39] <+TraderG> I think Cudlow was a top financial adviser to Reagan. Is there any wonder about the US economy?
[11:40] <+Sidhartha> the only guys I like on CNBC are David Faber and Mark Haines
[11:41] <+TraderG> Covered all GC Short @ 1124.6 --> - 1 «« simulator »»
[11:41] <+Sidhartha> neither of them buy the perma bull markets rule gloss
[11:41] <+TraderG>
??
[11:48] <+jbuch> took off another .25 of my sso long and raised my stop to 40.45 on the remainder
[11:57] <@wrbtrader> nice looking volatility contraction to say it's not worth sitting here watchig "paint dry".
[11:57] <@wrbtrader> Be back later...going to lunch
[11:57] * wrbtrader is now known as wrbtrader_away
[12:17] <+codehead> very little macd reaction on that last NQ try, got with 2 ticks of hod
[12:18] <+pat255> jb sso is?
[12:21] <+Sidhartha> proshares ultra S&P 500 etf
[12:35] <+pat255> k ty
[12:36] <@X> #FuturesTrades Purpose -> Members use this room to document (trade journal) their trades and thoughts from one trade to the next trade because it provides critical information they can't get from broker statements nor statistics. Also, mimicking the trades by others is not recommended. More info about the chat room @
http://www.thestrategylab.com/ftchat/forum[14:05] * wrbtrader_away is now known as wrbtrader
[14:13] <+TraderG> heeeeeeeee ha
[14:14] <+TraderG> let the games begin
[14:16] <+pat255> US Fed says rates to stay 'exceptionally low' for 'extended period'
[14:17] <@wrbtrader> Long TF @ 673.00 -> small size
[14:17] <@wrbtrader> 2 only
[14:18] <@wrbtrader> Exited all TF Long @ 672.90 --> - 0.1
[14:20] <@wrbtrader> Long TF @ 673.30 -> small size
[14:20] <@wrbtrader> 2 only
[14:21] <+TraderG> Long TF @ 673.7 «« simulator »»
[14:22] <@wrbtrader> trailing @ profit
[14:22] <+TraderG> Exited 1/2 TF Long @ 674.5 --> + 0.8 «« simulator »»
[14:24] <@wrbtrader> Exited 1/2 TF Long @ 674.40 --> + 1.1
[14:25] <MK> Shorts ES @ 1153 «« simulator »»
[14:26] <@wrbtrader> Exited Remainder TF Long @ 674.00 --> + 0.7
[14:26] <+TraderG> Exited Remainder TF Long @ 674 --> + 0.3 «« simulator »»
[14:28] <+TraderG> Long TF @ 674.9 «« simulator »»
[14:30] <mo2t> YM still bellow HOD
[14:31] <+mo2t> big battle there
[14:32] <+TraderG> Long TF @ 673.4 -> Add «« simulator »»
[14:33] <+TraderG> it's good that this is sim b/c I am not following my rules at all
[14:36] <@wrbtrader> This has to be one of the worst volatility performing FOMC Announcements I've seen in a long time.
[14:37] <+mo2t> in 2008 ER usually jumped about 1000 USD
[14:44] <+TraderG> Exited all TF Long @ 671.9 --> - 4.5 «« simulator »»
[14:45] <+TraderG> I am cured for 2 day
[14:45] <+MK> Covered all ES Short @ 1148.75 --> + 4.25 «« simulator »»
[14:57] <+TraderG> Long TF @ 673.7 -> large size «« simulator »»
[15:02] <+jbuch> afternoon everyone
[15:05] <+TraderG>
[15:07] <+mo2t> hi jbuch
[15:13] <@wrbtrader> Long TF @ 673.90 -> small size
[15:13] <@wrbtrader> 2 only
[15:14] <@wrbtrader>
[15:17] <@wrbtrader> Exited all TF Long @ 674.20 --> + 0.3
[15:18] <+mo2t> nice wrbtrader
[15:18] <@wrbtrader> be right back...got some distractions here at home
[15:18] <@wrbtrader> that's a late entry by 6 ticks and an early exit of of that Long
[15:18] <+jbuch> Long ES @ 1153.25
[15:18] * wrbtrader is now known as wrbtrader_away
[15:19] <+mo2t> looks like loosing trade at the first time
[15:19] <+TraderG> Exited 1/4 TF Long @ 674.5 --> + 0.8 «« simulator »»
[15:20] <+jbuch> Exited all ES Long @ 1153.5 --> + 0.25
[15:20] <+MK> Shorts ES @ 1153.75 «« simulator »»
[15:24] <+TraderG> Exited 1/4 TF Long @ 674.5 --> + 0.8 «« simulator »»
[15:26] <+TraderG> Exited 1/4 TF Long @ 674.8 --> + 1.1 «« simulator »»
[15:28] <+TraderG> Exited Remainder TF Long @ 674.7 --> + 1 «« simulator »»
[15:29] <+TraderG> still a net loser but at least the last trade was by the book so I feel better
[15:29] <+TraderG> no real reason to exit though
[15:29] <+pat255> vn Trader
[15:30] <@X> #FuturesTrades Purpose -> Members use this room to document (trade journal) their trades and thoughts from one trade to the next trade because it provides critical information they can't get from broker statements nor statistics. Also, mimicking the trades by others is not recommended. More info about the chat room @
http://www.thestrategylab.com/ftchat/forum[15:30] <+TraderG> thanks but i am not happy with myself
[15:30] <+TraderG> did better in the morning with my only live trade for the day. by the book in and out
[15:31] <+TraderG> I feel better with a loss on a trade that was following my rules than with a win not following my rules
[15:31] <+TraderG> I think that is a good sign
[15:32] <+pat255> y
[15:33] <+TraderG> does any 1 know how 2 change our name here?
[15:33] * wrbtrader_away is now known as wrbtrader
[15:34] * TraderG is now known as Risk
[15:35] <+Risk> I like this name more
[15:38] <+jbuch> Long ES @ 1154.25
[15:39] <+jbuch> chased that
[15:40] <+Risk> up, up and away in my beautiful, my beautiful baloon
[15:40] <+Risk> song from the 60's
[15:42] <+jbuch> wierd PA
[15:45] <+jbuch> Exited all ES Long @ 1153.5 --> - 0.75
[15:46] <+Risk> a new daily high since March last year
[15:48] <+pat255> later guys tomorrow back to work
[15:48] <+pat255> ty all
[15:51] <+jbuch> Long ES @ 1154
[15:53] <+jbuch> Exited all ES Long @ 1155.25 --> + 1.25
[15:53] <+Risk>
[15:54] <+jbuch> lil afternoon quickie
[15:54] <+codehead> there's a 1-1 at 1156.50
[15:57] <@wrbtrader> Long TF @ 676.60 -> small size
[15:57] <@wrbtrader> 2 only
[15:57] <@wrbtrader> intuition
[16:00] <+jbuch> closed out the last of my sso
[16:00] <@wrbtrader> Exited all TF Long @ 677.20 --> + 0.6
[16:00] <+jbuch> what a wimp
[16:01] <+jbuch> broke above the highs tested them and pushed back up and I bailed
[16:02] <+jbuch> was planning on leaving it at breakeven and shooting for 5o
[16:11] <werner> gn all
[16:11] <+jbuch> night werner
[16:11] <+werner>
[16:39] <@wrbtrader> Take care all and see all tomorrow
[16:40] <@wrbtrader> FYI - There's a high probability chance for a strong directional price movement or trend day within 3 days after a FOMC Announcement.[16:40] * wrbtrader is now known as wrbtrader_away
[16:54] * codehead is now known as codehead_afk
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