##TheStrategyLab Price Action Chat Room Logs

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Posted by M.A. Perry
Trader and Founder of WRB Analysis (wide range body analysis)

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Session Start: Thu Mar 04 07:49:47 2010
Session Ident: #FuturesTrades
[07:49] * Now talking in #FuturesTrades
[07:49] <@X> [NihabaAshi] Announcement: The new trade posting script v3.7 (replaces v3.6) is posted at your forum in the "Announcements" thread.
[08:58] <rickf>
[09:07] <@X> #FuturesTrades Purpose -> Members use this room to document (trade journal) their trades and thoughts from one trade to the next trade because it provides critical information they can't get from broker statements nor statistics. Also, mimicking the trades by others is not recommended. More info about the chat room @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/ftchat/forum
[09:12] <jbuch> good morning everyone
[09:17] <+rickf> hey jb
[09:18] <+jbuch> how are u doing today rick
[09:18] <+rickf> meh
[09:19] <+rickf> you?
[09:19] <screenstruck>
[09:19] <+jbuch> real good thanks
[09:21] <werner> all
[09:22] * codehead_afk is now known as codehead
[09:26] <+rickf> god i love ben's warmup on the cme squawk ... too funny
[09:26] <+rickf> sounds like a tobacco auctioneer
[09:27] <+rickf> but good guy anyway ... not that i listen often to the audio
[09:27] <+screenstruck> SP the biggest auction of em all
[09:27] <+rickf> l)
[09:29] <drt>
[09:33] <+rickf> long 6e 1.3655
[09:36] <+rickf> exit 6e 1.3660 + 5
[09:40] <+jbuch> Long ES @ 1120.5
[09:41] <pat255> all kind of computer problems ..
[09:41] <+pat255> need new machines
[09:41] <+pat255> sidelined
[09:41] <TraderG> build your own. u'll b better off
[09:42] <+rickf> get a mac
[09:42] <+TraderG> maybe even better idea
[09:42] <+TraderG> but i like 2 tinker
[09:42] <+rickf> u can tinker on macs ... but u need to be uber-expert lol
[09:43] <+TraderG> actually i had a Mac+ that I upgraded it's memory many years ago. that was like open heart surgery
[09:43] <+TraderG> still have it
[09:44] <+TraderG> with a 5 gig external hard drive
[09:44] <+TraderG> 2.5 meg ram
[09:45] <+jbuch> Exited all ES Long @ 1021.5 --> - 99
[09:45] <+TraderG> ??
[09:45] <+jbuch> oops
[09:45] <+pat255> so frustrating ..now have to get new cards ..
[09:46] <+rickf> Mac+ is a keeper for nostalgia
[09:46] <+jbuch> Exited all ES Long @ 1121.5 --> + 1
[09:46] <+rickf> i had a 20th anniversary mac on display in my living room ... currently in my closet since i needed the shelfspace for books
[09:46] <+TraderG> I also have the LQ printer. one of the best engineered dot matrix printers ever. extremly heavy
[09:47] <+rickf> freaking 6e is neurotic this morning
[09:47] <+pat255> vn jb
[09:47] <+rickf> actually bottom is dropping out
[09:48] <+jbuch> thanks pat
[09:54] <+screenstruck> hey is WRB off today? I mist have missed the logs
[09:55] <+TraderG> news in 5
[10:00] <+TraderG> home sale +12.3%
[10:01] <+TraderG> wrong data
[10:01] <+TraderG> down 7.6%
[10:02] <+TraderG> factory order +1.7
[10:05] <+codehead> ES ran into initial fib res
[10:05] <+codehead> support at 1119
[10:05] <@wrbtrader> Russell Emini TF ranging so far.
[10:07] <+jbuch> Long ES @ 1121.5
[10:08] <mo2t> YM in 20 points range too
[10:08] <+rickf> 6e dropping
[10:08] <+codehead> macd needs to pull up near zero line, because it was a weak reaction at hod/res
[10:08] <+jbuch> Exited all ES Long @ 1120.75 --> - 0.75
[10:10] <+jbuch> choppy
[10:11] <@wrbtrader> Yeah...only trade opportunity I see would have yield maybe 6 tick profit at best.
[10:11] <@wrbtrader> I happen to miss it too
[10:11] <+screenstruck> scalped for ticks here
[10:12] <+screenstruck> but stressfull
[10:13] <@wrbtrader> Long TF @ 651.10 -> small size
[10:13] <@wrbtrader> 2 only
[10:13] <@wrbtrader> volatility already sucks...not willing to risk more contracts
[10:14] <+jbuch> Long ES @ 1121.5
[10:15] <@wrbtrader> Exited all TF Long @ 650.60 --> - 0.5
[10:16] <+jbuch> Exited all ES Long @ 1120.75 --> - 0.75
[10:16] <@wrbtrader> support broken
[10:16] <@wrbtrader> Shorts TF @ 650.00 -> small size
[10:16] <@wrbtrader> 3 only
[10:16] <+TraderG> Shorts TF @ 1134 «« simulator »»
[10:16] <@wrbtrader> volatilty increasing
[10:16] <+TraderG> sorry GC
[10:19] <+TraderG> Covered 1/2 TF Short @ 1133.5 --> + 0.5 «« simulator »»
[10:19] <@wrbtrader> Oil and Gold threatening to drop below their own support level
[10:19] <@wrbtrader> If they do...TF should follow nicely
[10:19] <@wrbtrader> If not...TF will develop a new support level
[10:21] <@wrbtrader> Oil and Gold below their support level.
[10:21] <@wrbtrader> come on TF...respond
[10:22] <+TraderG> Covered Remainder TF Short @ 1133 --> + 1 «« simulator »»
[10:22] <+TraderG> GC
[10:24] <+codehead> from my comments earlier: macd stalled briefly at zeor line but no bounce, and here we are at support mentioned--1119
[10:24] <@wrbtrader> Covered all TF Short @ 649.80 --> + 0.2
[10:24] <@wrbtrader> lost my patience
[10:24] <+codehead> macd showing a try off it
[10:25] <@wrbtrader> Shorts TF @ 649.70 -> small size
[10:25] <@wrbtrader> 3 only
[10:25] <@wrbtrader> intuition
[10:28] <@wrbtrader> I hope the market isn't contracting because its waiting for the EIA Natural GAS report @ 1030am est
[10:28] <@wrbtrader> that should be a none event today
[10:29] <+TraderG> buy stop to enter long TF @ 1134 «« simulator »»
[10:29] <+TraderG> why is it showing TF when I set it to GC?
[10:29] <+TraderG> Long TF @ 1134 «« simulator »»
[10:30] <+TraderG> Exited all TF Long @ 1133 --> - 1 «« simulator »»
[10:32] <@wrbtrader> I was wrong...it's impacting the price action...in my favor
[10:32] <+pat255> vn N
[10:32] <+TraderG> Shorts GC @ 1132 «« simulator »»
[10:33] <+TraderG> finnaly I got it right
[10:33] <+TraderG> Covered 1/2 GC Short @ 1130 --> + 2 «« simulator »»
[10:34] <@wrbtrader> Covered 2/3 TF Short @ 648.60 --> + 1.1
[10:34] <+TraderG> Covered Remainder GC Short @ 1129.5 --> + 2.5 «« simulator »»
[10:35] <@wrbtrader> Covered Remainder TF Short @ 647.90 --> + 1.8
[10:35] <+TraderG> got out 2 early
[10:35] <+TraderG> pre mature ejaculation
[10:35] <+TraderG> sorry
[10:35] <+TraderG> early exit
[10:35] <@wrbtrader> Another good trade example that there's more to it than just trade signals such as "price dynamics".
[10:36] <@wrbtrader> In this case...the dynamics was other key markets breaking below key levels and the EIA Natural GAS status report.
[10:37] <@X> #FuturesTrades Purpose -> Members use this room to document (trade journal) their trades and thoughts from one trade to the next trade because it provides critical information they can't get from broker statements nor statistics. Also, mimicking the trades by others is not recommended. More info about the chat room @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/ftchat/forum
[10:37] <+screenstruck> yeah
[10:38] <+screenstruck> i cant believe it waited for natural gas and then moved once it was bearish
[10:39] <+TraderG> Long GC @ 1129.5 «« simulator »»
[10:39] <+TraderG> Exited 1/2 GC Long @ 1130 --> + 0.5 «« simulator »»
[10:41] <+TraderG> Exited Remainder GC Long @ 1128.5 --> - 1 «« simulator »»
[10:43] <+TraderG> Long GC @ 1127 «« simulator »»
[10:43] <+TraderG> Exited 1/2 GC Long @ 1127.5 --> + 0.5 «« simulator »»
[10:43] <+TraderG> Exited Remainder GC Long @ 1128 --> + 1 «« simulator »»
[10:45] <+TraderG> Shorts GC @ 1129 «« simulator »»
[10:45] <+TraderG> Covered 1/2 GC Short @ 1128.5 --> + 0.5 «« simulator »»
[10:46] <+TraderG> Covered Remainder GC Short @ 1128.5 --> + 0.5 «« simulator »»
[10:47] <+TraderG> this was a good warmup
[10:47] <+TraderG> next time it should be real $. not monopoly money
[10:47] <+rickf>
[10:47] <@wrbtrader> Long TF @ 648.60 -> small size
[10:47] <@wrbtrader> 2 only
[10:49] <@wrbtrader> TF trying hard to hammer in a support area
[10:50] <@wrbtrader> It's got some help from Gold and Oil via their creeper price action in a counter-thrust
[10:53] <@wrbtrader> Exited all TF Long @ 648.80 --> + 0.2
[10:53] <@wrbtrader> sidelined...that trade drained what little patience I had left.
[10:53] <+pat255> lol
[10:53] <@wrbtrader> I'm going to call it the "vampire trade"
[10:56] <@wrbtrader> Shorts TF @ 648.30 -> small size
[10:56] <@wrbtrader> 2 only
[10:56] <@wrbtrader> geeesh
[11:00] <@wrbtrader> oh oh...volatility just died.
[11:00] <@wrbtrader> expecting a volatility spike here soon.
[11:00] <@wrbtrader> Hopefully it takes price down and not upwards
[11:00] <@wrbtrader> tightning my trail
[11:03] <@wrbtrader> Covered all TF Short @ 649.90 --> - 1.6
[11:03] <@wrbtrader> ooops
[11:03] <@wrbtrader> Covered all TF Short @ 648.90 --> - 0.6
[11:04] <@wrbtrader> Long TF @ 649.30 -> small size
[11:04] <@wrbtrader> 3 only
[11:04] <@wrbtrader> volatility increasing
[11:06] <+codehead> 1119 was fib breakdown, so tough retest here
[11:10] <+codehead> nice
[11:10] <@wrbtrader> Exited all TF Long @ 649.80 --> + 0.5
[11:11] <@wrbtrader> sidelined
[11:11] <@wrbtrader> be back later...don't feel like I'm in the game today mentally...need to re-energize
[11:11] * wrbtrader is now known as wrbtrader_away
[11:52] <+jbuch> Long ES @ 1119
[12:01] <+jbuch> brutal
[12:02] <+werner> pivot 1119.83 still res
[12:03] <+werner> and 1119.50 the todays open
[12:04] <+jbuch> Exited all ES Long @ 1118.25 --> - 0.75
[12:07] <@X> #FuturesTrades Purpose -> Members use this room to document (trade journal) their trades and thoughts from one trade to the next trade because it provides critical information they can't get from broker statements nor statistics. Also, mimicking the trades by others is not recommended. More info about the chat room @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/ftchat/forum
[12:20] <+jbuch> Long ES @ 1118.5
[12:20] <+jbuch> third attempt
[12:21] <+jbuch> getting chopped up here
[12:21] <+jbuch> 1119 is the pivot
[12:22] <+jbuch> and 1120 is the gate keeper
[12:22] * wrbtrader_away is now known as wrbtader
[12:22] <+jbuch> at the down trendline of this wedge
[12:24] <+rickf> back
[12:25] <+jbuch> getting rejected
[12:27] <+jbuch> come on darling head on up to 125
[12:28] <+jbuch> it wants my stop
[12:29] <+jbuch> come on 19.75
[12:29] <+jbuch> buy people buy )
[12:30] <+mo2t> most of markets sideways in a triagles
[12:30] <+jbuch> stop at break even
[12:30] <+jbuch> yeah but they are pushing up against the tops
[12:31] <+jbuch> poked above the top
[12:35] <+jbuch> Exited all ES Long @ 1118.75 --> + 0.25
[12:35] <@wrbtader> Here's a quick chart review of the SPY chart I posted yesterday via saying the green highlighted areas are useful for today's trading session @ http://chart.ly/ek6sfv
[12:36] <@wrbtader> Now look at today's intraday highs for SPY and correlate it with the green highlighted areas on yesterday's chart I posted
[12:38] <@wrbtader> Unfortunately I myself was not able to exploit that because I was late getting my system setup...didn't take my first trade until around 1013am est
[12:38] <@wrbtader>
[12:39] <winmax60> wrbtrader..thanks for the chart...as always...it was an excellent one....
[12:39] <+werner> tf sells es fade
[12:39] <@wrbtader> Your welcome.
[12:44] <+werner> wrbtrader did you get some medicine for your red eyes?
[12:47] <+werner> if so ...i like to know if it helps ...here the same problem:(
[12:52] <+jbuch> Long ES @ 1118.75
[12:53] <+jbuch> back at the trendline
[12:54] <+jbuch> poking above again
[12:54] <+werner> what a mess of colors has that cnbc
[12:56] <+jbuch> should probably wait for it to break above 20 or below 17.5
[12:56] <+jbuch> come on 20 ))
[12:57] <+jbuch> I am hoping that if we do break above 20 it will explode
[12:57] <+jbuch> will probably poke above and tank
[13:02] <@wrbtader> [12:44] <+werner> wrbtrader did you get some medicine for your red eyes?
[13:02] <@wrbtader> [12:47] <+werner> if so ...i like to know if it helps ...here the same problem:(
[13:02] <@wrbtader> Yes...I rinse my eyes with sterile "warm water" than close them for 20 minutes.
[13:02] <@wrbtader> Helps a lot.
[13:03] <+werner> how many times a day?
[13:03] <@wrbtader> About 3 times when my eyes are tired like this.
[13:04] <+screenstruck> in the old days miners had callouses.... we have tired eyes
[13:04] <+werner> ok thnx i try it
[13:08] <+jbuch> man I keep thinking that I am home free and it comes right back at me
[13:08] <+werner> Long NQ @ 1852.50
[13:08] <+jbuch> here we go
[13:08] <+jbuch> werner it just needed the push from you
[13:10] <+jbuch> here she comes right back at me
[13:10] <+werner> lol
[13:11] <+jbuch> 4 time in here everyone of them I have been up 2 to 5 ticks and taken a loss or slight gain on each one
[13:11] <+jbuch> exit stop set ES @ 1118.5
[13:14] <+jbuch> come on 20.25
[13:15] <+rickf> short 6e 1.3573
[13:16] <+jbuch> I was waiting for rick to fade me
[13:16] <+rickf> lol
[13:16] <+jbuch>
[13:16] <+jbuch> wer almost always on the opposite side
[13:16] <+rickf> true
[13:16] <+jbuch> come on
[13:17] <+rickf> give me some $$ and i'll fade you on the es
[13:17] <+werner> Exited 1/2 NQ Long @ 1854.25 --> + 1.75
[13:17] <+jbuch> here is the hard part
[13:17] <+jbuch> wil probably retest inside the wedge
[13:19] <+jbuch> Exited all ES Long @ 1120 --> + 1.25
[13:20] <+werner> Exited Remainder NQ Long @ 1853.00 --> + 0.5
[13:21] <+rickf> exit 6e 1.3572 +1
[13:21] <+rickf> scratch
[13:34] <+jbuch> Shorts ES @ 1118.5
[13:35] <+jbuch> tried to catch it at 19.5 then 19.25
[13:37] <@X> #FuturesTrades Purpose -> Members use this room to document (trade journal) their trades and thoughts from one trade to the next trade because it provides critical information they can't get from broker statements nor statistics. Also, mimicking the trades by others is not recommended. More info about the chat room @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/ftchat/forum
[13:38] <+jbuch> come on lets test below here
[13:38] <+TraderG> don't be obscene jb
[13:39] <+TraderG> there r kids in the room
[13:39] <+rickf> we know about you TG....you kid you
[13:39] <+TraderG> )
[13:39] <+rickf> Fisher Price trading station
[13:39] <+rickf> big plastic red sell button that beeps when you press it
[13:39] <+rickf> *g*
[13:41] <@wrbtader> Long TF @ 648.10 -> small size
[13:41] <@wrbtader> 1 only
[13:42] <+jbuch> uh oh
[13:45] <+jbuch> Covered all ES Short @ 1118.25 --> + 0.25
[13:49] <@wrbtader> Exited TF Long @ 647.90 --> - 0.2
[13:49] <@wrbtader> sneaky price action
[13:50] <+jbuch> yeah I am having a stop festival
[13:51] <@wrbtader> Long TF @ 648.20 -> small size
[13:51] <@wrbtader> 2 only
[13:52] <+jbuch> trying to join u
[13:55] <+jbuch> Long ES @ 1118.25 -> small size
[13:59] <+jbuch> only have1 on this
[14:00] <+jbuch> if this gets back above 20 whata fakout that would be
[14:03] <@wrbtader> Exited all TF Long @ 648.40 --> + 0.2
[14:03] <@wrbtader> not getting anywhere here...just churning
[14:06] <+jbuch> man I had been shooting for 3 ticks I would be kicking ass today
[14:09] <+rickf> market nervous for job report tomorow
[14:09] <+jbuch> yeah good point
[14:10] <+jbuch> I am about to give up on this
[14:11] <+TraderG> HANG IN THE SON
[14:11] <+TraderG> (god)
[14:12] <+TraderG> THERE not THE
[14:12] <+jbuch> thanks dad
[14:13] <+rickf> i am eyeing short ES
[14:13] <+TraderG> yawc
[14:13] <+rickf> sorry jb
[14:13] <+jbuch> of course u are
[14:13] <+jbuch> Exited all ES Long @ 1118.5 --> + 0.25
[14:14] <+jbuch> I ma being to patient today
[14:19] <+jbuch> Long ES @ 1119.25
[14:21] <+rickf> short es 1119.25
[14:21] <+rickf> lol
[14:31] <+rickf> out 1119 +.25
[14:31] <+rickf> still looking lower
[14:31] <+rickf>
[14:31] <+jbuch> Exited all ES Long @ 1118.75 --> - 0.5
[14:33] <+rickf> chop city
[14:34] <+jbuch> Long ES @ 1119.5
[14:35] <+jbuch> crappy entry
[14:48] <+jbuch> Exited all ES Long @ 1120.25 --> + 0.75
[14:54] <+jbuch> Long ES @ 1120.5 -> small size
[14:58] <+jbuch> trying to add 1 at 1120
[15:00] <+jbuch> jeeze
[15:00] <+jbuch> jimminey crickets
[15:01] <+jbuch> Long ES @ 1120 -> Add
[15:04] <@X> #FuturesTrades Purpose -> Members use this room to document (trade journal) their trades and thoughts from one trade to the next trade because it provides critical information they can't get from broker statements nor statistics. Also, mimicking the trades by others is not recommended. More info about the chat room @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/ftchat/forum
[15:05] <+rickf> last hour
[15:06] <+rickf> looking short but nervous about entering
[15:07] <+rickf> short es 1119.25
[15:12] <+jbuch> surprise surprise rick is on the other side of my trade
[15:13] <+rickf> oh hell, i missed that
[15:14] <+jbuch> Exited all ES Long @ 1119 --> - 2.5
[15:17] <+jbuch> Long ES @ 1119.5 -> large size
[15:17] <+jbuch> 4 only
[15:25] <+jbuch> 1120 is my nemesis
[15:26] <mo2t> ES have all the day the same candles lenght? 2-4 ticks...on 2 min chart.
[15:28] <+jbuch> I am hoping that we get some volatility with the rush hour
[15:30] <@wrbtader> Long TF @ 650.90 -> small size
[15:30] <@wrbtader> 2 only
[15:31] <@wrbtader> I'm going to shoot that fill...weird
[15:31] <+jbuch> come on darling
[15:31] <+jbuch> run
[15:31] <+rickf> add es 1121.25
[15:32] <+rickf> cost 1120.25
[15:32] <@wrbtader> Exited all TF Long @ 651.00 --> + 0.1
[15:32] <@wrbtader>
[15:33] <@wrbtader> will sit and watch after a 8 tick slippage
[15:33] <+jbuch> Exited all ES Long @ 1120.5 --> + 1
[15:36] <+jbuch> Long ES @ 1120.75 -> small size
[15:38] <+jbuch> what a mess
[15:40] <werner> ((
[15:46] <+jbuch> Exited all ES Long @ 1122.75 --> + 2
[15:47] <+werner> nice
[15:47] <+jbuch> thanks
[15:47] <+TraderG> now u can send me back the 10K that I sent u JB for your trading
[15:48] <+jbuch>
[16:00] <@wrbtader> Long TF @ 651.80 -> medium size
[16:00] <@wrbtader> 4 only
[16:00] <+screenstruck> intuition?
[16:03] <@wrbtader> Exited all TF Long @ 652.30 --> + 0.5
[16:05] <@wrbtader> screenstruck...I traded a tweezer price action...similar to the ones I showed on the chart yesterday on that SPY.
[16:05] <@wrbtader> Regardless...I have an alert for the room.
[16:06] <+screenstruck> ok
[16:06] <+screenstruck> thanks
[16:07] <@wrbtader> FYI - I'm going to be shutting down my entire network anywhere from 24hrs to 72hrs soon beginning anytime tomorrow or the next day because of a possible network hacker (seriously).
[16:07] <@wrbtader> Someone is using my system to do some heavy downloads in the middle of the night while I ...
[16:08] <@wrbtader> 5 to 10 Gigabytes on average per night between 12am midnight to 2am est
[16:08] <+rickf> wow
[16:09] <@wrbtader> Yeah
[16:09] <+rickf> you got good antivirus and firewall and all that goodies
[16:09] <@wrbtader> Yeah...that's what scary.
[16:10] <+rickf> exit es 1121.25 -1 (way late post)
[16:10] <+rickf> hrmm you got any new boxes connected to your wifi?
[16:10] <@wrbtader> boxex
[16:10] <+rickf> er devices showing up that you don't know about
[16:10] <+rickf> ie is someone stealing your wifi
[16:12] <@wrbtader> Yeah...I know someone is stealing my Wifi and that's why I'm going to shut off my network but leave to Wifi on for a few days to see if the downloads and uploads are still occuring.
[16:13] <@wrbtader> The weird part is some nights I shut my system down (computers not on) but UPLOADS are still showing according to my cable company...large uploads.
[16:13] <+rickf> fair enough - if you are geekish enough, turn on the MAC address restrictions on your wifi. Then once you register your devices nobody else can connect to you easily
[16:13] <+rickf> yeah sounds like someone's leeching wifi ... maybe their computer is infected and serving to upload stuff to others
[16:15] <@wrbtader> It's a little scary because I don't know the source.
[16:15] <+rickf> if you were closer i'd swing over and play hacker-hunter for ya
[16:15] <+screenstruck> yeah i do 3 things
[16:16] <+screenstruck> 1 do to broadcast my access name
[16:16] <+screenstruck> 2 change wpa passwords often
[16:16] <+screenstruck> 3 have MAC registration restriction
[16:16] <+screenstruck> 1 is do not
[16:16] <+rickf> good ideas
[16:17] <+screenstruck> of course house guests hate me
[16:17] <@wrbtader> I never had any problems until three things changed in my house and those three things occurred in the same week.
[16:17] <+rickf>
[16:18] <@wrbtader> #1 - I got a Nintendo Wii for my kid and it's connected to my network
[16:18] <+screenstruck> ahh thats easy
[16:19] <@wrbtader> #2 - I started using Tweetdeck and it streams messages when my system is own but I do close the program when I'm done trading.
[16:20] <@wrbtader> #3 - I connected a HDTV to my system
[16:21] <+rickf> IF your stuff is to blame, I'd say #2 caused your problem ... turning the machine off may isolate it
[16:21] <+rickf> but based on what you said, it sounds like external source
[16:22] <@wrbtader> I'm no network geek but I figure the problem will continue even if my computer is off but my network (router and modem) is still ON.
[16:22] <@wrbtader> That would tell me someone is stealing my bandwidth sort'uv speak.
[16:22] <+rickf> yep
[16:22] <@wrbtader> The worst is this...
[16:23] <@wrbtader> If it stops when I shut down my computer...that means something is INSIDE my network
[16:23] <@wrbtader> That implies a hacker.
[16:23] <@wrbtader>
[16:23] <+rickf> not really
[16:23] <@wrbtader> ??
[16:23] <+rickf> if you shut down your computers ...
[16:24] <+rickf> and the problem continues...
[16:24] <+rickf> it means someone (okay, a hacker) is leeching your wifi. doesn't mean your network has been broken into or your data messed with
[16:24] <@wrbtader> you mean if the problem DOES NOT continue
[16:24] <+rickf> so you then fix the wifi, lock it down, and see what happens.
[16:25] <+rickf> that's the easiest approach to see what's wrong i think
[16:28] <@wrbtader> There must be a software that alerts us to a Wifi leak or when a source connects to it from outside the network.
[16:28] <+screenstruck> wii also connects and downloads by default
[16:28] <+screenstruck> check if thats turned off
[16:29] <+rickf> what does it download??? and surely not 10GB of sutff
[16:29] <+screenstruck> no
[16:29] <@wrbtader> I do know the Wii does do some sort'uv download but it's SMALL
[16:30] <@wrbtader> I noticed the first day when I checked my bandwidth stats...it was doing UPDATES on it's on while it was on.
[16:30] <@wrbtader> It didn't even prompt or notify...just did it on its own.
[16:31] <@wrbtader> However, it only does it when its ON.
[16:31] <+rickf> well first thing i would do is to shut down your wii, tv, and computers and see what happens. if problem continues, you can likely eliminate them. (leave the network running)
[16:31] <+rickf> then you just need to lock down the wireless connection a bit more
[16:31] <@wrbtader> When it's OFF...it makes a noise and a blue light can be seen in the disc slot.
[16:32] <@wrbtader> Then if I turn it ON...it saids it's UPDATING and downloading.
[16:32] <@wrbtader> Last time it did that...my Wii suddenly had the ability to surf the internet.
[16:32] <+rickf> i dont know much about the wiis, sorry
[16:33] <+jbuch> battled back from a $550 dollar loss this am but couldn't quite make it back. with commisions I lost 38 bucks
[16:33] <+jbuch> 3 days from having a 4 week winning streak
[16:33] <@wrbtader> It kind'uv caught me off guard and I called Nintendo to verify that was normal...
[16:33] <+jbuch> choked
[16:33] <+rickf> yah jb it felt like you were doing some revenge trading
[16:33] <@wrbtader> They said if was New ability and that it updates on its own.
[16:33] <@wrbtader>
[16:34] <+rickf> ugh....conference call starting up. wrbtrader, if u need/want to talk about your network issue, just drop me an email
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[16:34] <+rickf> have a good night all
[16:34] <+jbuch> I wouldn't say that rick did some stupidities this am and definetly over traded
[16:35] <@wrbtader> Yeah because I'm not getting any help from my cable company tech department.
[16:35] <@wrbtader> Other than to "shut it off"
[16:36] <+werner> gn all
[16:42] * wrbtader is now known as wrbtrader_away
[16:48] <pdays> .
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