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 Post subject: November 12th Thursday - Futures, ETFs and Forex Currencies
 Post Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 4:10 pm 
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Posted by M.A. Perry
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Session Start: Thu Nov 12 09:24:27 2009
Session Ident: #futurestrades
[09:24] * Now talking in #futurestrades
[09:24] <@X> [NihabaAshi] Announcement: The new trade posting script v3.7 (replaces v3.6) is posted at your forum in the "Announcements" thread.
[09:24] <Nesi> good morning all
[09:25] <winmax60> good morning
[09:26] <pat255> gm
[09:29] <drt> gm
[09:34] <+Nesi> Long ES @ 1094.00
[09:34] <+Nesi> 2
[09:34] <+drt> l es 94
[09:35] <+Nesi> Exited all ES Long @ 1093.75 --> - 0.25
[09:37] <+drt> cl es 94.75
[09:38] <jbuch> Shorts ES @ 1093.75
[09:39] <@wrbtrader> Shorts ES @ 1092.75 -> large size
[09:39] <@wrbtrader> 6 only
[09:40] <@wrbtrader> Covered all ES Short @ 1092.00 --> + 0.75
[09:41] <+jbuch> Covered all ES Short @ 1092.25 --> + 1.5
[09:41] <+Nesi> Long ES @ 1093.00
[09:44] <+Nesi> Exited all ES Long @ 1093.50 --> + 0.5
[09:44] <+Nesi> famous 1093.25 again
[09:45] <+Nesi> Shorts ES @ 1092.50
[09:45] <+Nesi> 2
[09:45] <+Nesi> bad entry at market
[09:45] <@wrbtrader> Long ES @ 1093.00 -> medium size
[09:45] <@wrbtrader> 4 only
[09:47] <OICU812> Good morning
[09:48] <+Nesi> Covered ES Short @ 1094.00 --> - 1.5
[09:48] <+Nesi> Reverse and Enter Long ES @ 1094.00
[09:48] <+Nesi> hola OICU
[09:48] <@wrbtrader> Exited all ES Long @ 1095.00 --> + 2
[09:48] <+jbuch> hey oic
[09:50] <+Nesi> Exited all ES Long @ 1095.25 --> + 1.25
[09:50] <+jbuch> Long ES @ 1095
[09:51] <+Nesi> Long ES @ 1096.50
[09:52] <+Nesi> chasein
[09:53] <+Nesi> Exited all ES Long @ 1097.25 --> + 0.75
[09:53] <+jbuch> one more tick
[09:54] <+Nesi> great trading..jb
[09:54] <+jbuch> Exited Remainder ES Long @ 1097.75 --> + 2.75
[09:54] <+Nesi> :)
[09:57] <@wrbtrader> Last 3 points has been a short squeeze
[09:57] <+pat255> amazing this mkt ...vn guys
[09:58] <+OICU812> thats a nice long
[09:58] <+OICU812> really took off
[09:59] <+jbuch> I jumped back in at 1097.25 didn't trust and to focused to post
[09:59] <@wrbtrader> Shorts ES @ 1099.50 -> small size
[09:59] <@wrbtrader> 2 only
[10:00] <@wrbtrader> Covered all ES Short @ 1100.00 --> - 0.5
[10:00] <@wrbtrader> $ES_F WR Analysis - Currently within a prior key change in supply/demand price area.
[10:00] <+Nesi> Shorts ES @ 1100.00
[10:01] <@wrbtrader> Shorts ES @ 1100.00 -> medium size
[10:01] <@wrbtrader> 4 only
[10:02] <@wrbtrader> Covered all ES Short @ 1099.00 --> + 1
[10:03] <+jbuch> beautiful move man.
[10:04] <+jbuch> loving this volitility
[10:04] <@wrbtrader> I'm still bullish but won't try to get pretty on Shorts right now...goal for me is to take quick profits on any short positions until I change my bias
[10:04] <+pat255> y cant get cute with S ..
[10:04] <@wrbtrader> Yeah...if we can keep this volatility for another 15mins...I should be able to reach my normal profit goal for the day.
[10:04] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> You must read #FuturesTrades purpose and benefits @ viewtopic.php?f=5&t=36 and TOU policy @ viewtopic.php?f=2&t=55 to prevent any misunderstandings.
[10:05] <+Nesi> Covered all ES Short @ 1099.50 --> + 0.5
[10:05] <@wrbtrader> Long ES @ 1098.00 -> small size
[10:05] <@wrbtrader> 3 only
[10:06] <@wrbtrader> Exited all ES Long @ 1097.75 --> - 0.25
[10:07] <+jbuch> I am already there but got to make hay while the sun is shining
[10:08] <@wrbtrader> Shorts ES @ 1097.25 -> medium size
[10:08] <+Nesi> Shorts ES @ 1097.00
[10:08] <+Nesi> 1
[10:08] <@wrbtrader> 4 only
[10:08] <+jbuch> good call on that short covering above 1098 wrbtrader
[10:09] <@wrbtrader> Yeah but I'm too slow on my short postions
[10:09] <+jbuch> did the way it moved up make you think that
[10:10] <+jbuch> or just the fact that it was a likely place for stops, or both
[10:11] <@wrbtrader> Covered all ES Short @ 1096.75 --> + 0.5
[10:12] <@wrbtrader> sideline for a little bit because I'm slow in getting my short entries in...too much overanalysis right now
[10:14] <AndyES> Long ES @ 1095.75
[10:14] <@wrbtrader> My bias is back to neutral
[10:14] <+jbuch> wrbtrader did the way price exploded up clue you in that it was short covering or the fact that it was a likely place for stops
[10:16] <@wrbtrader> It exploded upwards and through a key price zone I was hoping would setup a short signal...that told me if it pushed higher it would turn into a short squeeze.
[10:17] <@wrbtrader> Than when it reached the next key price area...it stalled and I started seeing inverted hammer lines or inverted long legged dojis.
[10:18] <@wrbtrader> That told me around 10am est this particular price area was willing to put up a better fight in comparison to the prior one that fell over like Mike Tyson had hit it.
[10:18] <+AndyES> Exited all ES Long @ 1095.25 --> - 0.5
[10:19] <@wrbtrader> Shorts ES @ 1094.75 -> small size
[10:19] <@wrbtrader> 3 only
[10:19] <@wrbtrader> intuition
[10:19] <+jbuch> thanks wrbtrader
[10:22] <@wrbtrader> Covered all ES Short @ 1095.75 --> - 1
[10:22] <+Nesi> Covered all ES Short @ 1095.50 --> + 1.5
[10:22] <@wrbtrader> weak support developing
[10:23] <@wrbtrader> Long ES @ 1096.00 -> medium size
[10:23] <@wrbtrader> 4 only
[10:24] <@wrbtrader> Exited all ES Long @ 1096.50 --> + 0.5
[10:30] <+Nesi> Shorts ES @ 1096.50
[10:30] <+Nesi> 2
[10:32] <@wrbtrader> Both Oil and Gold are near a support level
[10:33] <+Nesi> Covered all ES Short @ 1096.50 --> 0
[10:40] <@wrbtrader> FYI - I won't be trading tomorrow due to a family 3 day weekend.
[10:40] <+Nesi> Shorts ES @ 1096.25
[10:40] <+Nesi> 2
[10:42] <@wrbtrader> Moment of truth right now for ES...
[10:42] <@wrbtrader> Best chance since 1025am est to push higher if Oil and Gold helps.
[10:44] <+Nesi> Covered all ES Short @ 1097.25 --> - 1
[10:44] <@wrbtrader> Long ES @ 1097.25 -> small size
[10:44] <@wrbtrader> 2 only
[10:45] <@wrbtrader> Exited all ES Long @ 1098.50 --> + 1.25
[10:46] <@wrbtrader> still churning a little for me but "itching slowly" towards my profit goal for the day.
[10:48] <+Nesi> Long ES @ 1098.25
[10:49] <+pat255> if someone has IB feed, are they getting vix data?
[10:49] <+Nesi> Exited all ES Long @ 1097.50 --> - 0.75
[10:50] <+Nesi> Long ES @ 1098.25
[10:50] <@wrbtrader> Got another short signal but I'm going to ignore it
[10:50] <@wrbtrader> I think a squeeze is setting up
[10:51] <@wrbtrader> Long ES @ 1098.75 -> small size
[10:51] <@wrbtrader> 1 only
[10:51] <@wrbtrader> intuition
[10:52] <+Nesi> Exited all ES Long @ 1098.00 --> - 0.25
[10:54] <+Nesi> Shorts ES @ 1097.75
[10:54] <+Nesi> 2
[10:56] <+Nesi> Shorts ES @ 1097.25 -> Add
[10:56] <@wrbtrader> Exited ES Long @ 1097.25 --> - 1.5
[10:56] <@wrbtrader> Reverse and Enter Short ES @ 1097.25
[10:56] <@wrbtrader> 3 contracts
[10:57] <@wrbtrader> one volatility spike so far out of that price contraction
[10:58] <@wrbtrader> one more and I'll have my profit goal for the day
[10:58] <@wrbtrader> Covered all ES Short @ 1095.00 --> + 2.25
[10:58] <+Nesi> pretty amazing as always... wrbtrader
[10:59] <+Nesi> i can see how you do it and still .. i cant do it :/
[10:59] <@wrbtrader> Well...I try to get pretty with that intuition Short while having a bearish signal...
[10:59] <@wrbtrader> got burnt but didn't hesitate to flip it to the short side
[11:00] <+Nesi> you have any bias as of now..wrbtrader?
[11:00] <+Nesi> bit bearish?
[11:00] <@wrbtrader> meant tried to get pretty with the intuition "Long position" while having a bearish signal
[11:00] <+Nesi> 93.25 kind of magnet agaiin
[11:01] <+Nesi> petroleum inventories increased by 1.0 million barrels
[11:01] <@wrbtrader> still bearish until Oil and Gold settles down a little to cause a stall
[11:01] <+Nesi> probably oil goes bit lower
[11:01] <+Nesi> here it is 93.25
[11:01] <+Nesi> so far it holds
[11:01] <@wrbtrader> I'm sidelined right now after reaching my profit goal for the day
[11:02] <+Nesi> k, thx
[11:02] <@wrbtrader> Will go upstairs and eat when the cleaning lady leaves
[11:03] <+Nesi> do you have your office in the basement?
[11:03] <@wrbtrader> Yes...a basement office
[11:04] <@wrbtrader> next to the kids play room :(
[11:15] <+Nesi> Covered all ES Short @ 1090.25 --> + 14.5
[11:15] <+Nesi> finally i got a good one
[11:15] <+pat255> vvn
[11:17] <+jbuch> nice the old Nesi is back.
[12:10] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> You must read #FuturesTrades purpose and benefits @ viewtopic.php?f=5&t=36 and TOU policy @ viewtopic.php?f=2&t=55 to prevent any misunderstandings.
[13:06] <mo2t> Long YM @ 10199 «« testing script »»
[13:08] <+mo2t> Exited all YM Long @ 10199 --> 0 «« testing script »»
[13:12] <codehead> ES has buy at 1084.25
[13:12] <+codehead> NQ big big one at 1760
[13:12] <+codehead> but 1772 overnight low area is also nice symmetry and 1.272 extension
[13:16] <+codehead> 1765 also a decent cluster
[13:18] <@wrbtrader> Long ES @ 1089.25 -> small size
[13:18] <@wrbtrader> 3 only
[13:18] <@wrbtrader> Exited all ES Long @ 1089.25 --> 0
[13:19] <@wrbtrader> didn't like my entry
[13:23] <@wrbtrader> Long ES @ 1089.00 -> small size
[13:23] <@wrbtrader> 2 only
[13:23] <@wrbtrader> now I like my entry
[13:25] <@wrbtrader> Exited all ES Long @ 1088.75 --> - 0.25
[13:25] <@wrbtrader> Oil and Gold rolled over but into a weak support area
[13:27] <+Nesi> Long ES @ 1088.75
[13:27] <+Nesi> 1
[13:28] <@wrbtrader> Long ES @ 1089.00 -> small size
[13:28] <@wrbtrader> 1 only
[13:30] <+Nesi> Exited all ES Long @ 1088.75 --> 0
[13:34] <@wrbtrader> Exited ES Long @ 1089.00 --> 0
[13:39] <+Nesi> Long ES @ 1089.00
[13:39] <+Nesi> 1
[13:39] <@wrbtrader> 2 - 3 tick range :(
[13:40] <+Nesi> Exited ES Long @ 1088.25 --> - 0.75
[13:40] <+Nesi> Reverse and Enter Short ES @ 1088.25
[13:41] <@wrbtrader> If ES goes back to 1089...it's a buy signal for me
[13:43] <+Nesi> Covered all ES Short @ 1088.50 --> - 0.25
[13:44] <@wrbtrader> Long ES @ 1089.00 -> small size
[13:44] <+Nesi> Long ES @ 1089.00
[13:44] <+Nesi> 2
[13:44] <@wrbtrader> 3 only
[13:47] <@wrbtrader> tight trail
[13:48] <@wrbtrader> Exited all ES Long @ 1090.25 --> + 1.25
[13:48] <+Nesi> Exited all ES Long @ 1090.00 --> + 1
[13:49] <@wrbtrader> tough trading in that prior range of 2 - 3 ticks
[13:54] <+Nesi> Shorts ES @ 1089.00
[13:54] <+Nesi> 2
[13:56] <+Nesi> Covered all ES Short @ 1089.50 --> - 0.5
[13:57] <+codehead> but so was 1088.x and we bounced several times in there
[13:57] <+Nesi> Shorts ES @ 1088.75
[13:57] <+Nesi> 2
[13:57] <+codehead> budget report due
[13:57] <+codehead> that's the one i meant sorry
[14:03] <+Nesi> 14:00ET U.S. RAN DEFICIT OF $176 BILLION IN OCTOBER [MKW]
[14:07] <+Nesi> Covered all ES Short @ 1089.75 --> - 1
[14:09] <+Nesi> Shorts ES @ 1089.50
[14:09] <+Nesi> 2
[14:11] <pdays> Exited all ES Long @ 1090.5 --> - 1.75 «« simulator »»
[14:14] <+Nesi> Covered all ES Short @ 1090.50 --> - 1
[14:16] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> You must read #FuturesTrades purpose and benefits @ viewtopic.php?f=5&t=36 and TOU policy @ viewtopic.php?f=2&t=55 to prevent any misunderstandings.
[14:17] <+Nesi> Shorts ES @ 1089.25
[14:17] <+Nesi> 2
[14:19] <+AndyES> brutal contest over 89.5
[14:34] <+AndyES> anyone for another helping of 89.5?
[14:34] <+Nesi> right range
[14:34] <+Nesi> :/
[14:35] <+Nesi> we need mojo up or down
[15:00] <+Nesi> you guys see more selling?
[15:03] <+codehead> yes but buy levels are not far below, so slow
[15:04] <+Nesi> yeah
[15:04] <+Nesi> thx
[15:04] <+Nesi> what levels do you see next... code?
[15:04] <+Nesi> 1078 1080?
[15:04] <TraderG> 600
[15:05] <+Nesi> :}
[15:06] <+jbuch> big vol spike there
[15:08] <+codehead> 1084.25, 1082.50, 1080
[15:08] <+Nesi> thanks code
[15:08] <+codehead> yw
[15:09] <+codehead> 10:12 codehead: NQ big big one at 1760
[15:09] <+codehead> 10:12 codehead: but 1772 overnight low area is also nice symmetry and 1.272 extension
[15:09] <+codehead> bounced off 1772.00
[15:10] <+codehead> nice volume bar there
[15:10] <+codehead> but pressure on downside because it took too long to breakout up
[15:10] <+jbuch> 1085 is the low from 2 days ago
[15:11] <+codehead> when i looked at ES two nights ago, were so many levels in the 80's i had trouble singling many out
[15:11] <+codehead> i guess that's why we are grinding down--buyers spread
[15:11] <+codehead> at many levels
[15:11] <+jbuch> nice short Nesi
[15:12] <+Nesi> so far, still holding
[15:12] <+jbuch> awesome bro
[15:12] <+Nesi> writing a jounal helps me
[15:12] <+Nesi> small stops.. and when i get a chance.. i let winners run
[15:13] <+jbuch> leaving the room helps me :))
[15:13] <+jbuch> dude that is thje way to do it
[15:13] <+AndyES> Long ES @ 1085.25
[15:13] <+Nesi> we are under 1085
[15:13] <+Nesi> yes jb... but i need lots of improvement
[15:13] <+codehead> i had buy order in at 1084.25 for a long time, but pulled it here--too late in day for me
[15:14] <+Nesi> it did not hit 1084.25 code
[15:14] <+codehead> yeah
[15:14] <+codehead> that is, i agree
[15:14] <+codehead> pulled order cuz i don't want it there this late
[15:15] <+codehead> could be good for scalp, just not going for it this late
[15:15] <+codehead> cci potential vegas...
[15:28] <+AndyES> Exited all ES Long @ 1086.5 --> + 1.25
[15:28] <+AndyES> sorry late entry
[15:29] <+Nesi> 1082.50 "probably"next area..hoping here
[15:32] <+codehead> 1084.25 hit
[15:32] <+Nesi> perfect hit
[15:32] <+Nesi> pretty amazing..codehead
[15:34] <+Nesi> Covered all ES Short @ 1086.00 --> + 3.25
[15:34] <+jbuch> awesome
[15:34] <+Nesi> i could not juice it anymore
[15:34] <+AndyES> vn
[15:36] <+jbuch> u made $ on the trade and u avoided the chop
[15:37] <+Nesi> i got into trouble less than few days ago
[15:37] <+Nesi> i am done for today, writing things in my journal
[15:38] <+jbuch> and now the damn thing breaks
[15:41] <+codehead> nice trade nesi
[15:41] <+codehead> let's see, i had NQ 1765 and biggie at 1760
[15:42] <+jbuch> Shorts ES @ 1083.25
[15:42] <+codehead> 12:08 codehead: 1084.25, 1082.50, 1080
[15:42] <+AndyES> Long ES @ 1082.75
[15:42] <+codehead> 1082.50 getting support
[15:44] <+AndyES> Exited all ES Long @ 1083.75 --> + 1
[15:47] <+jbuch> Shorts ES @ 1084 -> Add
[15:48] <+codehead> intraday symmetry at 1082.00 also
[15:56] <+jbuch> Covered all ES Short @ 1085 --> - 2.75
[16:03] <+AndyES> gn all
[16:05] <@wrbtrader> FYI - I won't be trading tomorrow due to a 3 day family weekend...see all on Monday.
[16:05] <+codehead> oh my--closed everything, and that left a text page showing form last night
[16:06] * wrbtrader is now known as wrbtrader_away
[16:06] <+codehead> on it i only had written: "NQ 1768.50-1769.00 ***"
[16:06] <+codehead> 1768.50 was lod

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