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click on the above image to view today's price action of key markets Session Start: Thu Feb 12 09:30:56 2015
Session Ident: ##TheStrategyLab
[09:30:56] * Now talking in ##TheStrategyLab
[09:30:57] ##TheStrategyLab url is
http://www.thestrategylab.com/tsl/forum/[09:33:46] * rwbil (~rwbil@c-73-35-45-110.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) has joined ##TheStrategyLab
[09:34:26] <Volker>
[09:34:31] <Tigerman__>
all
[09:34:40] <Lightenup>
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[09:39:26] <wrbtrader> Price action very mixed in many key markets
[09:39:43] <wrbtrader> Light Crude Oil CL futures still powering upwards in an obvious Up Trend
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[09:55:38] <Lightenup> KME 10:00
[10:05:16] <Tigerman__> ES TF pure junk contracting
[10:05:36] <Tigerman__> just done some experimrnts small trades
[10:07:21] <wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 1210.10 -> large size
[10:07:23] * Retrieving ##TheStrategyLab modes...
[10:07:41] <wrbtrader> 1+5 contracts
[10:08:20] <wrbtrader> looking for a Houdini Escape
[10:10:03] <wrbtrader> Exited 1/2 Emini TF Long @ 1209.90 --> - 0.2
[10:12:58] <wrbtrader> Exited Remainder Emini TF Long @ 1209.90 --> - 0.2
[10:13:41] <wrbtrader> be back later
[10:16:30] <Tigerman__> price in Tf iwm moves up but in a tiny way
[10:16:54] <Tigerman__> simply I shake you out very easly
[10:17:23] <Tigerman__> this price action needs ton of patience
[10:17:41] <Tigerman__> usually I no have too much
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[11:01:29] <TradeSnake______> Short YM @ 17876
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[11:05:41] <Tigerman__> 90 minutes of nowhere price action
[11:07:20] <TradeSnake______> Covered YM 17880 --> -4
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[11:57:38] <Tigerman__> wow a nowhere day
[11:57:53] <Tigerman__> next time I go running
[11:58:07] <Tigerman__> volatility is retired
[12:01:56] <Lightenup> The problem is one never knows what will happen in the next minute. A news item or good romer might come out and the market could take off.
[12:03:50] <Tigerman__> yeah right but look paint dry is nerving and boring
[12:04:17] <xtrader34> What happened to the TF. Its a mess, going nowhere
[12:04:49] <Tigerman__> in add it needs a lot of experience to spot these no fly zones and avoid to trade inside that junk
[12:05:11] <xtrader34> agree!
[12:05:39] <Tigerman__> I burned a lot in the past so I avoid hard this junk
[12:06:01] <xtrader34> Not trending at all
[12:06:17] <xtrader34> All contraction
[12:06:54] <Tigerman__> markets maybe wait some news from europe until clear situation nbody trigger big size orders
[12:06:58] <Lightenup> At the end of chapter 1 it tells you how to spot the no trade action as what is happening today
[12:07:22] <xtrader34> CL going nuts
[12:07:39] <xtrader34> huge swings
[12:08:11] <Tigerman__> yeah the issue is put manuals and tutorial at work in real time
[12:09:13] <Tigerman__> simply if one fall in hole as losses at start of today session not easy recup if price not moves later at day
[12:09:36] <Tigerman__> that pressure to recup bring us to do stupid trades
[12:09:37] <xtrader34> I'm not not having any issues putting it together in real time!
[12:09:46] <Tigerman__> that was my beast for long time
[12:10:23] <Tigerman__> good xtrader thats nice
[12:11:02] <xtrader34> Takes a lot of practice and patience.
[12:11:07] <Tigerman__> anyway my point is after identify proper price action in real time act in proper way
[12:11:34] <Tigerman__> x example after 4 loss in a row is not easy regain confidence
[12:11:51] <xtrader34> Very true!
[12:12:34] <Lightenup> Simply, it’s high risk trading when trading whenever there are no WRB Hidden GAPs or trading in price action that quickly retraces WRB Hidden GAPs. Therefore, the lack of WRB Hidden GAPs (unfilled) is telling you to stay on the sideline (no trading).
[12:12:37] <Tigerman__> I talk of that because today market context can bring losses if not identifyed at start
[12:13:18] <xtrader34> Both correct!
[12:13:42] <Tigerman__> yes lightenup we need print that in front of our eyes !!
[12:15:08] <xtrader34> Guess its time for lunch. TF is
ing right now
[12:16:21] <Tigerman__> yeah at this point you can go lunch and miss if some moves occurs or go lunch and not care whatever happen now
[12:16:49] <Tigerman__> what me upset is market move when left the desk
[12:17:24] <Tigerman__> so miss the only good oportunity of today after wait so much is nerving
[12:17:38] <Tigerman__> of course nothing is garanteed
[12:18:04] <xtrader34> I mainly trade CL. So I'm not missing much in the TF
[12:18:06] <Tigerman__> usually we saty nothing happen...we leave markets moves
[13:13:19] <xtrader34> TF is probably going to dance around on the highs until late in the afternoon
[13:15:54] <wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 1210.80 -> medium size
[13:15:59] <wrbtrader> 4 contractes
[13:16:50] <@wrbtrader> WRB Analysis -> - Your use of this chat room implies you're using concepts from WRB Analysis for price action trading to help trade either Stocks, Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX 6E Futures, Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40, BUND), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), Oil Futures (Brent, CL, HO, QM), Gold GC Futures, Natural Gas NG Futures, Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQ, SPY), Hang Seng HSI Futures, NIFTY Futures, Forex Currencies (GbpUsd, EurUsd, EurYen, UsdCad) and other key market price actions.
[13:17:15] <@wrbtrader> snap back
[13:18:20] <@wrbtrader> Exited 1/2 Emini TF Long @ 1211.10 --> + 0.3
[13:18:41] <@wrbtrader> Exited Remainder Emini TF Long @ 1211.10 --> + 0.3
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[13:21:38] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 1211.30 -> small size
[13:21:45] <@wrbtrader> re-entry
[13:21:49] <@wrbtrader> 2 contracts
[13:23:53] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 1210.60 --> - 0.7
[13:30:02] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 1210.90 -> small size
[13:30:18] <@wrbtrader> re-entry
[13:35:20] <Tigerman__> say price is ugly is using kind words
[13:35:34] <Tigerman__> maybe will be move soon
[13:35:40] <xtrader34> I-)
[13:36:03] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 1212.00 --> + 1.1
[13:36:10] <@wrbtrader> WRB pt1 reached
[13:37:08] <Tigerman__> VIX is going in hell
[13:37:45] <@wrbtrader> That's ony when it drops below 10
[13:38:10] <Tigerman__> yeah there devils show up
[13:38:49] <Tigerman__> not funny the journey downthere
[13:39:04] <Tigerman__> we need some strong break up news
[13:39:48] <@wrbtrader> Look at the bright side...you'll be bored and have more time to rest because there'll be fewer trade opportunities until the market "adjust" to a low VIX
[13:40:24] <@wrbtrader> Usually takes 2 - 3 weeks for the market to adjust to "low volatility" trading conditions
[13:43:14] <Tigerman__> umhh so you wanna say if decline in VIX continue there will be few opportunities... then after the adjust more opportunities more WRB HG also if in low volatility
[13:43:43] <Tigerman__> of course NOT big like in high volatility with higher VIX
[13:44:28] <@wrbtrader> Decline in the VIX is OK just as long as its not a slow crawl downwards
[13:44:53] <@wrbtrader> If it drops with momentum...in many ways the market will react with volatility.
[13:45:22] <Tigerman__> ah ok yeah infact this slow tiny move in small steps nerving me a lot
[13:45:35] <@wrbtrader> Sounds like a contradiction but its proven that's how the market reacts to a "fast moving VIX" (up or down)...reacts with volatility
[13:45:49] <Tigerman__> in contrast when/if VIX regain momentum there will much better
[13:46:09] <@wrbtrader> What we don't want to see is sideways tight trading range VIX at any level
[13:46:21] <Tigerman__> yeah agreed
[13:46:36] <@wrbtrader> Even a VIX at 30 in a sideways tight trading range will produce a low volatility price action in the Eminis
[13:46:57] <@wrbtrader> Simply, you want the VIX to move
[13:47:12] <@wrbtrader> Up or Down...just move
[13:47:59] <Tigerman__> yeah VIX move and market overall move
[13:49:02] <Tigerman__> today we got VIX with a downtrend move but in small steps with few if NO WRB hG
[13:56:59] <@wrbtrader> Reminder about the VIX use...
[13:57:51] <@wrbtrader> I mainly use it to help with my position size management, trading instrument selection and sometimes to help me to see when the price action if going to be 'nasty'.
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[13:58:28] <@wrbtrader> I think if someone's going to try to use the VIX as a trade signal itself (many do)...best to use the VXX
[13:58:57] <@wrbtrader> VXX is a little more fluid than the VIX
[14:18:18] <@wrbtrader> ##TheStrategyLab Purpose -> -This chat room is for YOU to use as a daily journal of your thoughts or trades involving any key concept from the WRB Analysis free study guide. If you're in here and NOT talking about WRBs, WRB Hidden GAPs, key market events, swing point price actions, strong continuation price actions, WRB Zones...you are not properly using this chat room.
[14:18:59] <@wrbtrader> Emini futures back near the S area of some reaction lows
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[14:20:51] <@wrbtrader> Someone ask me in private message why did I dump that first Long position of the day at a -0.20 before it went higher
[14:22:06] <@wrbtrader> I had an "aquarium emergency"...custom made tank sprung a leak
[14:23:06] <@wrbtrader> I had to get my my fish out and transfer them to a back up tank while I drained that custom tank
[14:24:21] <@wrbtrader> will do repairs on it over the weekend...its a 200 gallon tank
[14:24:42] <Syzygy_________> share a picture of it when you get done
[14:25:36] <@wrbtrader> Maybe I will
[14:27:50] <@wrbtrader> Emini TF trying hard to bounce off the reaction low
[14:27:54] <@wrbtrader> slowly moving higher
[14:30:14] <Syzygy_________> keeps stalling at 1213 area
[14:35:27] <@wrbtrader> Very little market news today...
[14:36:07] <@wrbtrader> Its so bad that Bloomberg still has up its top market news data from the past few days...nothing really from today to replace it
[14:46:19] <@wrbtrader> Interesting article a few days ago about Hedge Funds and the VIX @
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/ ... greece-oil [14:48:10] * winmax200 (~androirc@S0106789684bf87b3.vw.shawcable.net) has joined ##TheStrategyLab
[15:00:08] <Tigerman__> I need to exit so see all next time seems this low volatility is also related to mondays holidays
[15:00:26] <Tigerman__> so big traders take it easy
[15:00:46] <Tigerman__> take care all see next time
[15:01:28] <@wrbtrader> Hopefully Friday is a better trading day than today
[15:04:50] <@wrbtrader> I have a broker friend once tell me that statistics show the clients over-trade the day AFTER a 3 day holiday if the market was in a tight trading range for a few days BEFORE the holiday
[15:05:32] <@wrbtrader> Also a higher percentage of account blowups too
[15:05:45] <@wrbtrader> Simply, if Friday is like today...
[15:05:58] <@wrbtrader> Be carefuly on Tuesday trading session...I know I will be.
[15:06:32] <@wrbtrader> I'm just following the stats...no TA needed
[15:08:10] <TradeSnake______> thanks for the tip!
[15:08:24] <TradeSnake______> btw what is TA?
[15:30:10] <@wrbtrader> Technical Analysis (TA)
[15:30:26] <@wrbtrader> Take care all and see all tomorrow
[15:30:55] <Volker> tc
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Session Close: Thu Feb 12 19:18:32 2015
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