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 Post subject: September 18th Wednesday - Futures, Forex, Stocks and ETFs
 Post Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 6:12 pm 
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##TheStrategyLab is primarily designed to only be a trade journal for documentation purposes so that members can have a real time stamp archive of their trades and their market commentaries of each trading day...giving them a better understanding of their broker statements from one trade to the next trade when they review their performance numbers on any given trading day in the past. Therefore, if you use our chat room...its highly recommended you post messages that reflect what you see in the price action on your monitors so that the chat room becomes your diary (journal) to correlate with trades on your broker statements.

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Session Start: Wed Sep 18 09:02:52 2013
Session Ident: ##TheStrategyLab
[09:02:52] * Now talking in ##TheStrategyLab
[09:02:52] * Topic is 'Chat room only for traders using WRB Analysis (WRBs, WRB Hidden GAPs, WRB Zones) for day trading, swing trading or position trading. | WRB Analysis free study guide @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/tsl/forum ... 119&t=718'
[09:02:52] * Set by wrbtrader on Tue Feb 05 08:11:19
[09:02:52] ##TheStrategyLab url is http://www.thestrategylab.com/tsl/forum/
[09:24:06] <wrbtrader> Key Market Events @ 1030am est, 1400pm est and 1430pm est
[09:27:41] <Zr1trader> Good Morning traders, have a good one.
[09:31:29] <Zr1trader> L crude oil 105.97
[09:33:51] <wrbtrader> Shorts Emini ES @ 1697.00 -> large size
[09:34:24] <wrbtrader> Short Emini ES futures @ 1062.10 medium size 4 contracts
[09:34:46] <wrbtrader> Emini ES futures 10 contracts
[09:35:51] <Zr1trader> stopped in crude oil -9 ticks
[09:36:21] <Zr1trader> correction -11 ticks
[09:39:23] <wrbtrader> Exit Emini TF futures @ 1062.60 -0.50
[09:40:50] <wrbtrader> Short Emini TF futures @ 1062.60 medium size 4 contracts
[09:40:55] <wrbtrader> re-entry
[09:42:49] <wrbtrader> Exit Emini TF futures @ 1062.20 +0.40
[09:43:27] <wrbtrader> volatility extremely low for the first 15 minutes of regular trading session
[09:43:30] <wrbtrader> unusually low
[09:44:23] <Zr1trader> I've noticed some FOMC days very choppy up until announcement.
[09:45:59] <wrbtrader> Shorts Emini ES @ 1698.00 -> Add
[09:46:09] <wrbtrader> 10 added
[09:48:23] <NDW> ES in same channel range as yesterday afternoon
[09:48:27] <squiggles> GC increasing volatility
[09:48:50] <Zr1trader> Short ES 1698.25
[09:50:12] <wrbtrader> volatility "slowly" increasing
[09:50:36] <Donnin______> in which market wrrb?
[09:50:47] <wrbtrader> market I'm trading right now
[09:50:51] <Donnin______> ok
[09:51:47] <wrbtrader> Gold GC futures volatility spike while Euro volatility is in contraction
[09:52:10] <wrbtrader> Eminis trying hard to get something going
[09:53:56] <Zr1trader> stopped ES -.75
[09:55:41] <wrbtrader> Covered all Emini ES Short @ 1699.00 --> - 3
[09:57:07] <wrbtrader> Shorts Emini ES @ 1698.50 -> large size
[09:57:20] <wrbtrader> 20+10 contracts
[09:57:25] <wrbtrader> re-entry
[09:58:04] <wrbtrader> ranging is crazy tight
[09:58:50] <wrbtrader> Its been awhile since I've seen a "low volatility tight trading range" in the first 30 minutes like this...
[09:58:53] <wrbtrader> Very unusual
[09:59:21] <Zr1trader> GC vol increasing2,3,5, 10 min
[10:01:39] <Zr1trader> WRBtrader,When did you start trading ES again? last time I was in this room a few months back you weren't trading it.
[10:02:21] <Zr1trader> more liquidity for ya I suppose.
[10:02:56] <wrbtrader> I made the switch soon after the "reconstitution" of the Emini TF futures
[10:03:37] <wrbtrader> I still trade Emini TF futures as you can see today
[10:03:54] <Zr1trader> i see, Interesting
[10:04:17] <wrbtrader> I just don't trade it like I use too until the institutional trading levels return to it.
[10:05:37] <wrbtrader> Covered all Emini ES Short @ 1698.25 --> + 0.25
[10:06:08] <wrbtrader> same with Crude Oil CL futures and Gold GC futures...
[10:06:20] <wrbtrader> I've reduced my overall trading in those too.
[10:06:45] <wrbtrader> Actually, more so in Crude Oil CL and Gold GC futures in comparison to Emini TF futures
[10:07:24] <wrbtrader> The volatility and volume is just not there starting a few months ago and getting WORST
[10:07:25] <MattyR> why is that wrb... just because of liquidity?
[10:07:40] <wrbtrader> Record billions pulled out of the markets
[10:08:08] <Zr1trader> There has been funny business AH in GC lately someone with 2k contracts trades in think volume all at once. almost everyday
[10:08:17] <Zr1trader> Thin*
[10:08:29] <MattyR> still a lot of volatility in CL and GC, does that create opportunity?
[10:08:30] <wrbtrader> Don't know why folks have become so scared of the markets the past few months.
[10:08:44] <wrbtrader> There's volatility in markets.
[10:08:54] <wrbtrader> There's just NOT near the levels it use to be.
[10:09:17] <wrbtrader> Its not just traders pulling money out of the markets...
[10:09:33] <wrbtrader> Its institutional, investors and foreign governments
[10:10:00] <Zr1trader> my sister claims billionaires are pulling their money out...she watches alex jones so I kind of wrote her off lol
[10:11:02] <wrbtrader> All the info I get is from CNNMoney, Bloomberg and MarketWatch about that particular issue of why the markets aren't the same the past several months
[10:11:23] <wrbtrader> Also, markets just are NOT insync on their volatility movements too like before in the past
[10:11:23] <Zr1trader> I can believe it, stan drunkenmiller feels it's one big illusion with qe infinity,
[10:12:45] <Zr1trader> druckenmiller***
[10:14:18] <wrbtrader> If this "lack of volatility" continues to become an issue...we're going to see some very difficult trading the remainder of the month and possibility further.
[10:15:00] <wrbtrader> Yet, governments usually get involve and shake things up that attract investors and institutional players money back into the markets.
[10:15:53] <Zr1trader> Short Crude oil 105.76
[10:17:09] <wrbtrader> There's hasn't been much HYPE going into this FOMC Announcement
[10:17:34] <wrbtrader> Thus, I'm expecting a few volatility spikes today in that announcement that mainly retrace each other.
[10:18:03] <wrbtrader> I hope I'm wrong and a ton of volatility shows up that produces at least one strong continuation price action
[10:20:49] <NDW> most of what i read said the mkt is figuring in a cut on QE of $10-15B
[10:20:58] <wrbtrader> Shorts Emini ES @ 1697.75 -> large size
[10:21:10] <Donnin_______> vol incresasing es
[10:21:14] <wrbtrader> 10+10 contracts
[10:25:22] <Zr1trader> ZN vol increasing to downside
[10:25:56] <Zr1trader> lots of my bond twitter guys talking about it
[10:27:23] <wrbtrader> Yeah, there's been a ton of Treasury futures talk lately
[10:27:28] <wrbtrader> The past 2 months
[10:27:46] <wrbtrader> Emini ES futures WRB pt1 reached
[10:28:29] <wrbtrader> Covered all Emini ES Short @ 1695.75 --> + 2
[10:30:07] <Zr1trader> Stopped crude.
[10:30:12] <squiggles> Gold spiking
[10:30:18] <wrbtrader> The Emini TF futures was moving lower while Emini ES futures was stuck in a stable range...
[10:30:49] <wrbtrader> It finally broke down but the length of time it stayed range bound while other markets was dropping is just another symptom of the problem
[10:31:18] <Zr1trader> my platform says I only had a 4 tick loss, I thought I would've had a ton of slippage, got lucky
[10:31:55] <NDW> ES was range bound yesterday afternoon and TF had a slow grind upwards all afternoon
[10:32:01] <wrbtrader> Its almost as if the "big boys" stopped communicating with each other.
[10:32:26] <wrbtrader> They're now doing there own thing resulting in markets not being insync with each other
[10:35:28] <wrbtrader> Crude Oil CL futures volatility slowing down a little after its own volatility spike about 5 minutes ago
[10:38:35] <NDW> plenty of WRBHG in CL
[10:40:55] <Zr1trader> Russia claims they have evidence the syrian rebels used chem weapons to present to UNSC, via rt.com
[10:41:34] <Zr1trader> unsc=UNited nations security counsel
[10:49:17] <wrbtrader> U.S. crude supply down 4.4 million barrels: EIA (MarketWatch) @ http://www.marketwatch.com/story/us-cru ... atest_news
[10:54:41] <Donnin_______> vol contraction es
[10:55:40] <wrbtrader> Fed likely to reduce bond buying, pass policy milestone (Reuters) @ http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/09/ ... D620130918
[11:19:08] <Zr1trader> tf vol increasing 10 min
[11:19:38] <wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 1057.80 -> small size
[11:19:49] <wrbtrader> 3 contracts
[11:27:49] <Zr1trader> L GC 1298.3
[11:29:12] <Donnin_______> more vol contraction es
[11:30:20] <Donnin_______> well now expansion sould say
[11:41:21] <wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 1056.70 --> + 1.1
[11:41:28] <wrbtrader> WRB pt1 reached
[11:46:10] <Zr1trader> stopped -17 ticks GC
[11:53:34] <Zr1trader> Crude vol increase
[11:55:16] <t4npaper> short gc 1297.6
[11:56:28] <t4npaper> missing a lot of opportunities
[11:58:21] <Zr1trader> tf vol increase 10 min
[12:01:52] <t4npaper> exit 1298. -.9
[12:02:42] <t4npaper> :(
[12:02:51] <Zr1trader> Crude going to town on the upside after inventories
[12:06:06] <John__> WRB HG TF 1 minute
[12:06:21] <John__> time 12:01
[12:09:49] <t4npaper> short gc 1298.1
[12:11:14] <t4npaper> jeez, i must be missing something
[12:11:55] <t4npaper> exit 1299.3 -1.2
[12:13:13] <Zr1trader> Surely you've had more than 2 trades in a row that have been losers before is that out of norm?
[12:14:19] <t4npaper> its just timing, when you enter and have all pressure against you.
[12:14:34] <t4npaper> feels like you missed something important
[12:15:47] <NDW> yesterday afternoon in TF bought pullbacks for slow but stress free trades. This morning selling pullbacks has provided stress free trades.
[12:25:02] <t4npaper> long cl 106.62
[12:34:46] <t4npaper> e 106.48 -1.4
[12:37:23] <t4npaper> long gc 1300.7
[12:42:48] <t4npaper> long cl 106.63
[12:44:57] <t4npaper> e gc 1301.8 +1.1
[12:49:33] <t4npaper> e cl 106.48 -1.5
[13:09:12] <Zr1trader> S ES 1695.25
[13:15:41] <Zr1trader> -3 ticks ES
[13:17:06] <Zr1trader> gc vol increase
[13:17:30] <t4npaper> yeah,
[13:17:54] <t4npaper> big wrb
[13:18:37] <t4npaper> short cl 106.48
[13:18:55] <Zr1trader> 2.5k contracts in 1 min, someone loves trading 2-3k contracts at a pop. usually during AH for gc it's been weird
[13:20:03] <t4npaper> exit 106.55 -.07
[13:20:38] <t4npaper> ruf day
[13:31:05] <t4npaper> short tf 1057.1
[13:40:06] <t4npaper> e 1055.6 +1.5
[13:49:27] <t4npaper> long gc 1308.7
[13:52:01] <t4npaper> exit 1311.7 +9
[13:52:08] <t4npaper> correction +3
[13:52:14] <Zr1trader> L Cl 106.98
[13:53:28] <t4npaper> fomc 2pm
[13:57:31] <Zr1trader> gold vol
[13:58:16] <Zr1trader> biog gold vol
[13:58:20] <Zr1trader> big****
[13:58:25] <t4npaper> geez,
[14:00:08] <Zr1trader> gold geeexe
[14:00:11] <Zr1trader> no taper
[14:00:31] <t4npaper> bam
[14:00:40] <t4npaper> its all nuts now
[14:01:38] <Zr1trader> oil trailing stop
[14:02:36] <Zr1trader> out 107.64
[14:03:00] <Zr1trader> +65 ticks
[14:03:31] <t4npaper> nice
[14:03:40] <t4npaper> oil snapping back
[14:03:52] <Zr1trader> +69 ticks correction
[14:06:02] <Zr1trader> wait ... my math sucks 66 ticks I got filled at different price
[14:07:37] <t4npaper> this would have been nice to let a contract roll into 2pm
[14:07:53] <wrbtrader> so far no retracement
[14:10:05] <wrbtrader> Long Emini ES @ 1710.00 -> large size
[14:10:19] <wrbtrader> 20 contracts
[14:14:37] <t4npaper> long tf 106.65
[14:14:40] <t4npaper> cl
[14:16:30] <wrbtrader> Exited all Emini ES Long @ 1713.75 --> + 3.75
[14:18:12] <t4npaper> exit 2/3 106.83 +1.3
[14:18:29] <t4npaper> correction +1.8
[14:20:14] <t4npaper> got myself out of a decent hole
[14:20:57] <wrbtrader> Long Emini ES @ 1713.75 -> large size
[14:22:13] <wrbtrader> Long Crude Oil CL futures @ 107.10 small size 3 contracts
[14:22:33] <wrbtrader> problem entry on that :(
[14:22:42] <t4npaper> exit 107.06 +.41
[14:23:23] <wrbtrader> Exited all Emini ES Long @ 1716.25 --> + 2.5
[14:23:36] <t4npaper> thanks volatility
[14:23:51] <t4npaper> reached my pt for the day
[14:23:58] <wrbtrader> Exit Crude Oil CL futures @ 107.12 +0.02
[14:25:33] <wrbtrader> Long Crude Oil CL futures @ 107.10 small size
[14:25:37] <wrbtrader> 3 contracts
[14:25:42] <wrbtrader> re-entry
[14:26:05] <wrbtrader> 2+1
[14:30:01] <wrbtrader> Exit Crude Oil CL futures @ 107.36 +0.26
[14:30:13] <wrbtrader> WRB pt1 reached
[14:30:55] <t4npaper> long tf 1070.5
[14:32:48] <t4npaper> exit all 1070.8 +.3
[14:34:02] <wrbtrader> volatility contraction showing up in the Emini futures
[14:34:14] <wrbtrader> same with Gold GC futures
[14:36:13] <Zr1trader> L tf 1070.5
[14:43:37] <wrbtrader> In surprise, Fed decides not to taper (MarketWatch) @ http://www.marketwatch.com/story/in-sur ... 2013-09-18
[14:50:11] <wrbtrader> Long Emini ES @ 1717.25 -> medium size
[14:50:17] <wrbtrader> 5 contracts
[14:51:04] <Zr1trader> exit tf
[14:51:18] <Zr1trader> +23 ticks
[14:54:31] <wrbtrader> WRB pt1 reached
[14:55:32] <wrbtrader> Exited all Emini ES Long @ 1719.50 --> + 2.25
[14:58:15] <wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 1075.70 -> small size
[14:58:23] <wrbtrader> 2 contracts
[14:58:34] <wrbtrader> trade error
[14:58:56] <Zr1trader> Lgc 1346.2
[15:00:17] <wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 1077.00 --> + 1.3
[15:00:23] <wrbtrader> WRB pt1 reached
[15:00:30] <wrbtrader> my lucky trade of the week
[15:02:11] <NDW> wrbtrader: this morning started out slow for you, but you finished strong, great job!
[15:03:58] <wrbtrader> Thanks
[15:04:24] <Zr1trader> trailing gold stop
[15:04:34] <wrbtrader> I wanted to be conservative this morning...did not want to get burnt out "before" the FOMC Announcement price reaction
[15:04:59] <@wrbtrader> WRB Analysis -> - Your use of this chat room implies you're using concepts from WRB Analysis for price action trading to help trade either Stocks, Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX 6E Futures, Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40, BUND), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), Oil Futures (Brent, CL, HO, QM), Gold GC Futures, Natural Gas NG Futures, Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQ, SPY), Hang Seng HSI Futures, NIFTY Futures, Forex Currencies (GbpUsd, EurUsd, EurYen, UsdCad) and other key market price actions.
[15:05:22] <Zr1trader> exit gold
[15:05:50] <Zr1trader> +83 ticks
[15:06:01] <Zr1trader> oh boy, i need school
[15:06:08] <Zr1trader> +60 ticks
[15:08:12] <NDW> or a calculator :) at least it is all wins, good trades
[15:09:42] <Zr1trader> Thanks, yeah got out of hole from this morning as well, vola been good post announcement
[15:10:25] <NDW> you sure have, like your nick, my dad was a chevy dealer for 31 years
[15:11:28] <Zr1trader> awesome, love cars.
[15:27:00] <Zr1trader> L TF 1074.9
[15:28:46] <Zr1trader> -12 ticks
[15:36:00] <Zr1trader> Gold vol, continues to hit highs
[15:37:13] <t4npaper> it has rissen over $60 today
[15:49:31] <t4npaper> rush hour
[15:58:43] <t4npaper> short tf 1072.7
[15:59:27] <t4npaper> e 1073.3 -.6
[16:01:29] <t4npaper> dumb
[16:04:48] <t4npaper> short tf 1071.9
[16:12:12] <t4npaper> running out of time
[16:14:12] <t4npaper> exit 1072.2 -.3
[16:16:18] <t4npaper> messed up that last bit, but still a good day
[16:20:09] <@wrbtrader> Take care all and see all tomorrow (post FOMC price action)
[16:20:16] * wrbtrader is now known as wrbtrader_away
Session Close: Wed Sep 18 18:52:01 2013


##TheStrategyLab (located on the Freenode IRC network) is free and is a serious professional trading chat room involving WRB Analysis in which any trader (position trading, swing trading, day trading) can use the chat room to post their trades or commentaries about stocks, futures, exchange traded funds or forex currencies. Simply, you don't need to be a client of TheStrategyLab.com to use the chat room nor do you need to be a price action trader (no indicators) because some members use indicators while others do not. Yet, the only requirement is that you want to learn WRB Analysis.

Therefore, we welcome all traders that want to learn about WRB Analysis regardless if they are beginners or experience traders in price action trading.

The purpose of ##TheStrategyLab is that it's designed to be a trade journal for documentation purposes only so that members can have a time stamp archive of trades and market commentaries of each trading day so that they can better understand their broker statements from one trade to the next trade when they review their performance numbers on any given trading day.

Further, members are not obligated to educate nor help other members but members are encourage to ask questions about any trades or market commentaries that's posted by others because sometimes the answers contains useful trading tips.

In addition, our primary job in the free chat room is to moderate the room (keep the peace) because with so many members using different trade signal methods along with different opinions about the market...debates or arguments can easily flare up without moderating. In addition, our presence in the chat room is to ensure it's a spam free chat room during trading although these archived chat logs may contain advertisements for guest visitors.

Commonly discussed trading instruments from stocks, futures, exchange traded funds and forex currencies:

Image CME Emini Futures EMD, ES and NQ

Image ICE Emini TF Futures (formerly CME ER2)

Image CBOT mini-sized Dow Futures YM

Image Eurex Index Derivatives (futures) DAX and DJ Euro Stoxx50

Image Eurex Fixed Income Derivatives (futures) BUND, BOBL and Schatz

Image Euronext Futures FTSE-100 and CAC-40

Image CME Futures EuroFX 6E and EC

Image Treasury Futures T-Notes ZT, ZN, ZF and T-Bonds ZB

Image Forex Currencies Gbp/Usd, Eur/Usd, Eur/Yen and Usd/Cad

Image Exchange Traded Funds VXX, DIA, IWM, QQQ, SPY, BGU, FAS, FAZ, TNA, OIH, XLE and GLD

Image NYMEX Energy Futures Light Crude Oil CL, Brent Crude Oil BRN, e-miNY QM and Natural Gas NG

Image COMEX Metal Futures Gold GC, mini-Gold YG, Copper HG and Silver SI

Image S&P CNX NIFTY Futures

Image Hang Seng Index Futures HSI and mini-Hang Seng MHI

Also, to prevent the usual mix-up about our different chat rooms, most of our fee-base clients do not use chat rooms just like most retail traders do not use chat rooms. Yet, the few clients that do use chat rooms, our fee-base clients are discussing market analysis or price action only trade signals via concepts from our strategies in the private chat rooms called ##VolatilityTradingTSL or ##WRB_Analysis and they're not allowed to do such in ##TheStrategyLab.

Reminder, our Terms of Use (TOU) Policy is a must read to prevent any misunderstandings along with revealing that ##TheStrategyLab is a serious professional price action trading chat room and we expect members to act professional. Also, these logs may have been edited (rarely) to remove any messages that a member has complained to me via private message that they consider a particular commentary to be inappropriate, offending or too far in the off topic area that's a distraction when the commentary was posted.

Note: chat logs saved (timestamp) from Qu├ębec, Canada in eastern daylight time

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