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Author: | wrbtrader [ Thu Feb 21, 2019 7:24 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Am I interpreting Chapter 2 correctly? |
Hi, Thank you for the DOKs. Your charts and annotations are correct. Also, Emini ES futures commonly has strong continuation & swing point price action definitions. Thus, if the chart you're looking at does not contain any price action definitions...you can lower the time frame to look for price action definitions for the purpose of the DOKs. In contrast, for the purpose of trading...its important to remember these are basic price action definitions. Thus, there are others not discussed in the WRB Analysis Free Study Guide. Another suggestion, use WRB Zones from highly correlated price actions. For example, SPY / SPX / NQ and others may have a WRB Zone when Emini ES does not. I commonly trade as such. Thus, if SPX has a WRB Zone...I will look at the same interval in Emini ES and then treat that interval as a WRB Zone in Emini ES even if it did not qualify as a WRB Zone in Emini ES Regards, M.A. Perry |
Author: | Wizzle [ Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:09 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Am I interpreting Chapter 2 correctly? |
Hi Mr. Perry, Thank you for the reply. I normally don't like to drop down a timeframe while trading, but I suppose for the purposes of identifying WRB Zones I can't hurt. Thank you for the suggestion. Your second suggestion about using correlated markets to identify WRB Zones is interesting. I never thought of using intermarket analysis this way, thank you! Also, I am assuming my charts in this post are not sufficient for a DOK of chapter 2, but I will need to show a chart of each type of Swing point and Strong Continuation? Wouter |
Author: | wrbtrader [ Fri Feb 22, 2019 8:52 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Am I interpreting Chapter 2 correctly? |
Hi Wouter, Yes, its mention all over the website, forum and chat room that I use intermarket analysis and intramarket analysis to help with my analysis and trades. Yet, it goes over the heads of most or they ignore it via thinking I have on my monitor just a chart of Emini ES futures and nothing else to do my analysis or look for trades in Emini ES futures. Some will then say they do not understand my trades or analysis because they ONLY are looking at the chart of Emini ES futures to try to correlate with what I'm doing (analysis or trades). Regardless, inter/intra market analysis helps me to view more of the playing field instead of having tunnel vision (seeing very little). I now only need to see DOK charts for strong continuation price action definitions #1 & #2 along with images of timestamp trade fills in broker trade execution platform (simulator). The latter would be ok for real money trades but only for someone that has already posted such for simulator trading. Yet, if you don't want to post images of timestamp trade fills in broker trade execution platform...you can join the free chat room and post real time trades in the chat room and then follow up with explanation of the trades here at the forum (or within a private thread) via the key concepts of WRB Analysis involving some of the specific trades you posted in the free chat room. This is not a very good option because many members complain that posting their real time trades in chat rooms are a distraction from their trading...something I agree with. Reason why most members do not use the free chat room and prefer to just post images of timestamp trade fills in broker trade execution platform in their private thread. Regards, M.A. Perry |
Author: | Wizzle [ Sun Feb 24, 2019 5:29 am ] | |||
Post subject: | Re: Am I interpreting Chapter 2 correctly? | |||
Hi Mr. Perry, Thank you again for the reply. See here my charts of Strong Continuation type 1 and type 2. Broker statement to follow. This will be later in the week as I am having to change brokers and waiting on the process to complete. In the meantime I will also post my DOK for chapter 3. I have seen that you use intermarket analysis and I think it is brilliant approach to understand what is going on in the markets. I have used it in a limited way where I see a setup developing on both the EUSTX50 and DAX and will take the trade (sim so far only) on whichever instrument gives me the best signal. Wizzle
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Author: | wrbtrader [ Sun Feb 24, 2019 7:01 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Am I interpreting Chapter 2 correctly? |
Hi, I just wanted to post a quick message before you post your timestamp trade fills in broker statement... Make sure you blacken/whiteout any account numbers and name on account for security & privacy reasons. There are a few trolls & hackers still visiting this forum. Regards, M.A. Perry |
Author: | wrbtrader [ Tue Feb 26, 2019 9:04 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Am I interpreting Chapter 2 correctly? |
Hi Wouter (Wizzle), Here's the problem with your understanding of Strong Continuation price action definitions: Chart for Strong Continuation #2 @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/tsl/forum/download/file.php?id=5832 In your chart you only have 1 contracting volatility interval between the v2 and v1 intervals. There must be a minimum of 3 contracting volatility intervals between the v2 and v2 intervals. The above rule is repeated a few times in the strong continuation #2 via statements like The contracting volatility (minimum of three intervals) between v2 and v1 intervals. In fact, if you study the DOK charts by other users, you'll see a minimum of three contracting volatility intervals between the v2 and v1 intervals. Chart for Strong Continuation #1 @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/tsl/forum/download/file.php?id=5833 The WRB Hidden GAP interval that's a breakout of the most recent reaction high...that WRB HG interval must close above the most recent reaction high. In contrast, in your chart, it looks less or equal to the most recent reaction high instead of closing above the most recent reaction high. Reminder, I only share 2 types of strong continuation price action definitions. Some users have their own definitions of strong continuation especially the users that are trend traders and need them to help them to identify a trend. Some of these users are using +10 types of strong continuation price action definitions that they've personally designed beyond my 2 types. A few of them have coded/programed their price action definitions including my 2 types. Regards, M.A. Perry TheStrategyLab.com |
Author: | Wizzle [ Tue Feb 26, 2019 1:20 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Am I interpreting Chapter 2 correctly? |
Hi Mark, Thank you for spotting the two errors! I do have the rule (minimum of three contracting intervals between v2,v1) written down in my checklist for Strong Continuation type two, but I missed it on this chart.. Thank you. I expected a comment on the break above the reaction high on the chart for Strong Continuation Type 1. On the data I have the WRB closes one tick above the reaction high, the visual representation of it is not great (using tradingview atm). Do you want me to post two new charts with all the correct rules? Wouter |
Author: | wrbtrader [ Tue Feb 26, 2019 1:34 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Am I interpreting Chapter 2 correctly? |
Hi, New charts not needed. The key issue is that you understand your errors. Also, you probably have notice that different data providers often do provide slightly different data info...as an example...your chart had the close of the WRB HG breakout interval > than the close of the most recent reaction high by 1 tick whereas my charts via eSignal, broker and TOS had different info even among themselves. For example, that reaction high was different for all three of my data providers and I've notice how these data providers are different the past +20 years. This is one of the flaws with chart analysis...different traders using the same strategy can see different data info...impacting their trade decisions, profit targets, trade management and such. Regards, M.A. Perry TheStrategyLab.com |
Author: | Wizzle [ Tue Feb 26, 2019 4:27 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Am I interpreting Chapter 2 correctly? |
Hi, Ok thank you. I understand the errors I have made. Yes the correct data provision is an important factor. Just an fyi this is not my usual data provider. Wouter |
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