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 Post subject: October 14th Wednesday - Futures, ETFs and Forex Currencies
 Post Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 1:58 am 
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Session Start: Wed Oct 14 09:27:40 2009
Session Ident: #futurestrades
[09:27] * Now talking in #futurestrades
[09:27] <@X> [NihabaAshi] Announcement: The new trade posting script v3.7 (replaces v3.6) is posted at your forum in the "Announcements" thread.
[09:29] <Nesi> good trading all
[09:29] <rickf> you too
[09:29] <drt> gm
[09:29] <+Nesi> hi
[09:29] <pat255> gm all
[09:32] <Francois> hi
[09:32] <+Francois> lets see if breaks trendline from yd
[09:33] <jbuch> morning all
[09:33] <+Nesi> hey jb
[09:34] <+jbuch> hola Nes
[09:35] <@wrbtrader> Long ES @ 1082.50 -> large size
[09:35] <@wrbtrader> 9 only
[09:36] <@wrbtrader> Exited all ES Long @ 1082.00 --> - 0.5
[09:37] <@wrbtrader> support broke
[09:38] <+Francois> short 81.25
[09:38] <+pat255> fomc meeting today?
[09:38] <@wrbtrader> Shorts ES @ 1081.25 -> large size
[09:38] <@wrbtrader> 9 only
[09:39] <@wrbtrader> tough trade with the support a few ticks above
[09:39] <+rickf> yeah
[09:39] <+rickf> minutes at 2PM
[09:39] <+pat255> ty
[09:40] <+Francois> up trendline from yd broken
[09:40] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> You must read #FuturesTrades purpose and benefits @ viewtopic.php?f=5&t=36 and TOU policy @ viewtopic.php?f=2&t=55 to prevent any misunderstandings.
[09:40] <@wrbtrader> Covered all ES Short @ 1081.00 --> + 0.25
[09:41] <+pat255> tuff trades today
[09:41] <@wrbtrader> sidelined...will just watch for awhile...got lost in the forrest on that Short.
[09:43] <@wrbtrader> I hoping it retraces back upwards so that I can re-short it at a price level above 1081.50 because I'll be more comfortable in looking for shorts above that level if they appear.
[09:44] <+pat255> 1075 level for L sdie
[09:44] <+Francois> all out be
[09:45] <@wrbtrader> Shorts ES @ 1080.75 -> large size
[09:45] <@wrbtrader> 9 only
[09:45] <+Francois> short 80
[09:45] <+Nesi> imho, market already digesting all "good earnings"
[09:46] <@wrbtrader> It rolled over after testing 1081.75 but I wasn't fast enough to get Short...too much analysis.
[09:46] <+Nesi> do we have numbers at 10am ?
[09:46] <@wrbtrader> Going to sit on this bad entry and see what happens.
[09:47] <+rickf> tight range since open
[09:51] <+jbuch> nice guys
[09:51] <+Nesi> you not trading today..jb?
[09:52] <+Francois> would have expected to go down faster ...
[09:52] <+jbuch> I keep thinking about longs and keep missing the shorts
[09:53] <@wrbtrader> Covered all ES Short @ 1080.50 --> + 0.25
[09:54] <+rickf> short es 1081 paper
[09:54] <+Francois> covered -0.25
[09:55] <+jbuch> business inv at 10 nes
[09:55] <+rickf> early entry :(
[09:56] <+jbuch> that move up broke the down trend line
[09:58] <+rickf> exit es 1080.75 +.25 paper
[10:02] <+Nesi> August Business Inventories -1.5% vs -1.0% consensus
[10:03] <+rickf> grrr that's the move i wanted
[10:03] <@wrbtrader> Shorts ES @ 1079.75 -> large size
[10:03] <+Francois> short 79.25
[10:03] <@wrbtrader> 6 only
[10:05] <+rickf> hrmm maybe not. nevermind
[10:06] <+Francois> hard to trade so far
[10:06] <@wrbtrader> Agree...not much to chew on this morning.
[10:07] <@wrbtrader> Covered all ES Short @ 1080.25 --> - 0.5
[10:08] <@wrbtrader> Shorts ES @ 1080.00 -> large size
[10:08] <@wrbtrader> 9 only
[10:10] <@wrbtrader> Covered all ES Short @ 1081.00 --> - 1
[10:11] <@wrbtrader> Market waiting for me to take my schedule break today here soon...that's when it's going to make a big move :)
[10:11] <@wrbtrader> Until then...it's going to range by no more than 2 points
[10:11] <+pat255> volume dead
[10:11] <@wrbtrader> Yeah and volatility is declining unusually fast
[10:12] <JimL14> wedgey wedge which way will it go???
[10:12] <@wrbtrader> Also, see some wedges forming in key markets
[10:12] <@wrbtrader> Yep
[10:13] <+Francois> covered -1.25
[10:13] <@wrbtrader> Long ES @ 1081.00 -> large size
[10:14] <@wrbtrader> 9 only
[10:14] <+rickf> short es 1081 paper
[10:15] <+Francois> buy stop order @ 81.50
[10:15] <+jbuch> Long ES @ 1081.25
[10:15] <@wrbtrader> Exited all ES Long @ 1080.75 --> - 0.25
[10:16] <@wrbtrader> time ran out...taking a break...be back later
[10:16] * wrbtrader is now known as wrbtrader_away
[10:16] <+rickf> exit es 1080.50 +.50 paper
[10:17] <+rickf> flat for a while - dont like this action
[10:17] <+Francois> im not trading 79.25 - 81.25
[10:18] <+Francois> need to be patient...
[10:18] <+jbuch> Exited all ES Long @ 1080.5 --> - 0.75
[10:21] <+rickf> days like this make me glad i started doing index option spreads -- as long as it's beyond my short strike by a comfy margin i just let the market noodle around
[10:21] <+rickf> swing-trades as opposed to day trades there
[10:24] <+rickf> ugly ugly morning so far
[10:24] <+jbuch> complete crap
[10:24] <+Francois> short 79.25
[10:29] <pdays> Shorts ES @ 1079.0
[10:30] * wrbtrader_away is now known as wrbtrader
[10:31] <+Francois> 78.50 support from overnite
[10:31] <@wrbtrader> Long ES @ 1079.00 -> large size
[10:31] <@wrbtrader> 6 only
[10:32] <+Francois> covers 1/2 +1
[10:32] <+Nesi> i see market trying to make lower lows..imo
[10:33] <+JimL14> oil just won't break right now
[10:33] <+pdays> Covered all ES Short @ 1078.5 --> + 0.5
[10:34] <+Francois> out rest be
[10:35] <+Francois> long 79.75
[10:38] <@wrbtrader> Exited all ES Long @ 1080.25 --> + 1.25
[10:39] <+Francois> the last 5 min bar was quite bullish
[10:41] <+rickf> back later
[10:42] <+jbuch> Long ES @ 1080
[10:46] <+JimL14> what a dog's breakfast
[10:47] <+JimL14> a trader's worst fear, No trend in your favorite interval
[10:52] <+jbuch> Exited all ES Long @ 1080.5 --> + 0.5
[10:52] <+jbuch> fomc day
[10:52] <MK> Shorts ES @ 1080.5 «« simulator »»
[10:52] <+Nesi> fomc mins today at 2ET
[10:55] <+JimL14> bingo, i was in a hurry today & didn't schroll dwn to see that, I'll give this til 11:00 to get some mojo then quit to 2
[10:57] <@wrbtrader> Long ES @ 1081.50 -> large size
[10:57] <@wrbtrader> 6 only
[11:02] <+Francois> long 82
[11:05] <+Francois> Dow close to 10K
[11:05] <@wrbtrader> Exited all ES Long @ 1082.25 --> + 0.75
[11:06] <+pat255> vn
[11:06] <+Francois> all out be
[11:06] <+MK> Shorts ES @ 1082.25 -> Add «« simulator »»
[11:43] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> You must read #FuturesTrades purpose and benefits @ viewtopic.php?f=5&t=36 and TOU policy @ viewtopic.php?f=2&t=55 to prevent any misunderstandings.
[11:50] <A22> hello all from Nantucket...A22 = Andy
[11:50] <+A22> trying to get script etc working on new computer
[11:51] <Forex2stay> k
[11:52] <+Forex2stay> sorry was just checking to see if i was disconnected
[11:57] <AndyES> Shorts ES @ 1083 «« testing script »»
[11:58] <+AndyES> AndyES = Andy
[12:30] <AndyES> Covered 3/4 ES Short @ 1082 --> + 1 «« testing script »»
[12:32] <+jbuch> this looks like a good long but it is so dead.probably not worth the effort
[13:09] <+MK> Covered all ES Short @ 1084.5 --> - 6.25 «« simulator »»
[13:13] <+codehead> dow going for 10k
[13:15] <+MK> Long ES @ 1085.25 «« simulator »»
[13:20] <@wrbtrader> Ok...just got back
[13:20] <+Nesi> hey
[13:21] <+Nesi> wb wrbtrader
[13:21] <+Nesi> 10k
[13:25] <+MK> Long ES @ 1084 -> Add «« simulator »»
[13:28] <@wrbtrader> Geeesh...they hyping of Dow 10,000 is ridiculous sometimes @ http://www.cnbc.com/id/33293095
[13:28] <+Nesi> i saw it
[13:30] <+Nesi> what a bubble
[13:31] <+jbuch> my realestate agent asked me if I thought the dow would make it to10 000
[13:31] <+Nesi> Rags to riches! Homeless man makes fortune collecting empty booze bottles for cash
[13:31] <+Nesi> Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/money/work_c ... z0TvsXl73k
[13:33] <+Nesi> party is over.. lets sell again
[13:34] <+rickf> CNBC loves that stuff ... they had a story at 0940 this morning "Is Today The Day?" or something liek that
[13:34] <+rickf> *barfs*
[13:34] <+Nesi> party over
[13:41] <+codehead> fomc minutes coming
[13:43] <+rickf> cnbc has a damn champagne bottle on their website .... unreal
[13:44] <+rickf> so we've retraced a touch under 50% of the high in 2007 on the SPX
[13:49] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> You must read #FuturesTrades purpose and benefits @ viewtopic.php?f=5&t=36 and TOU policy @ viewtopic.php?f=2&t=55 to prevent any misunderstandings.
[13:50] <@wrbtrader> It's estimated that most of trading this year 60 - 73% is due to big boys doing high frequency trading...about a 45% jump from last year in high frequency trading.
[13:51] <+rickf> quite possibly
[13:51] <@wrbtrader> Simply, us retail folks got it much harder this year to make a buck because we're trading against computers.
[13:52] <+rickf> i've toyed with trading the 5 or 15 or 1 hour chart and swing-trade the ES because of that, actually
[13:52] <+rickf> get rid of the near-term noise
[13:52] <+pat255> y that is one way to do it
[13:53] <+jbuch> I use the 30 min more and more
[13:53] <+Nesi> on cnbc now
[13:53] <+Nesi> high frequency trading
[13:54] <+pat255> jb & fo enrties?
[13:54] <+jbuch> I us the 1 min for entries and the 30 for setups
[13:54] <+pat255> ty
[13:55] <+jbuch> I keep taking what turn iout to be great trades and screing them up because I micromanage them.
[13:55] <+rickf> hard lesson to learn to be sure
[13:55] <+rickf> you outfox yourself
[13:56] <+pat255> t-7
[13:57] <+rickf> fomc in 2 mins
[13:58] <+jbuch> that long I took this am at 80 I had a target of 83.5.
[13:58] <+Nesi> :/
[13:58] <+jbuch> I knewit would painfull and slow
[13:59] <+jbuch> and I pplanned on just leaving it until either my stop or target was hit
[13:59] <+jbuch> bailed after the first pop
[13:59] <+jbuch> annoying as hell
[13:59] <+MK> Long ES @ 1084 -> Add «« simulator »»
[14:00] <+Nesi> seems good fomc
[14:01] <+Nesi> "economic slack will be obvious over next few years" Inflation will be subdued"
[14:02] <+Nesi> FED MINUTES: POLICYMAKERS FELT ECONOMIC OUTLOOK HAD IMPROVED BUT ACTIVITY STILL QUITE WEAK
[14:02] <+MK> not much immed move for fomc
[14:02] <+Nesi> dieee
[14:03] <+jbuch> so much info to digest with the minutes
[14:03] <+jbuch> will take a while
[14:03] <+Nesi> dieeeeeeeeee
[14:03] <@wrbtrader> Long ES @ 1084.25 -> large size
[14:03] <@wrbtrader> 6 only
[14:04] <@wrbtrader> position size error...thought I had 3 contracts only
[14:06] <@wrbtrader> Exited 1/2 ES Long @ 1084.50 --> + 0.25
[14:11] <@wrbtrader> Exited Remainder ES Long @ 1084.25 --> 0
[14:12] <@wrbtrader> started seeing a possible bearish trade setup...wanted out of that Long so I can watch the possible setup with a clearer head
[14:13] <@wrbtrader> Shorts ES @ 1084.00 -> medium size
[14:13] <@wrbtrader> 4 only
[14:14] <+rickf> bbl - want to run a quick errand before rain comes. back in a bit
[14:18] <+Nesi> Obama speaking in virginia..fwiw
[14:18] <+Nesi> soon
[14:19] <@wrbtrader> thanks
[14:20] <@wrbtrader> Covered all ES Short @ 1084.25 --> - 0.25
[14:20] <@wrbtrader> Gold and Oil showed up to help out via providing support :(
[14:21] <@wrbtrader> Thought for sure we'll break out of that low volatility tight trading range on that Short setup.
[14:21] <@wrbtrader> It gave it a good try.
[14:22] <+jbuch> yeah it did
[14:22] <+jbuch> then it broke like it was going to the moon
[14:23] <@wrbtrader> key markets back to ranging
[14:32] <@wrbtrader> Shorts ES @ 1084.25 -> medium size
[14:32] <@wrbtrader> 4 only
[14:36] <@wrbtrader> geeesh...Oil and Gold just provided support again near that same price area they did before
[14:36] <@wrbtrader> if those guys can drop below their own support...Emini ES will follow
[14:37] <@wrbtrader> Gold just did...now waiting on Oil to do the same...
[14:37] <@wrbtrader> If not...with the volatility declining more...I'll now be happy with 2 - 3 ticks on this trade in comparison to 4 - 7 ticks I wanted when I first entered the short position.
[14:37] <@wrbtrader> Oil now below its support
[14:39] <@wrbtrader> Covered all ES Short @ 1083.50 --> + 0.75
[14:40] <@wrbtrader> tough trading still :(
[14:41] <@wrbtrader> killer low volatility trading range if not careful with the trades
[14:42] <+jbuch> obama done
[14:44] <+jbuch> super tough I am clueless as to where this might go
[14:45] <@wrbtrader> Shorts ES @ 1083.50 -> small size
[14:45] <@wrbtrader> 1 only
[14:45] <+MK> Exited ES Long @ 1083.5 --> - 1.75 «« simulator »»
[14:45] <+MK> Reverse and Enter Short ES @ 1083.5 «« simulator »»
[14:46] <@wrbtrader> Shorts ES @ 1083.00 -> Add
[14:46] <@wrbtrader> added 2 more
[14:46] <+rickf> back
[14:48] <@wrbtrader> :(
[14:49] <@wrbtrader> feels like I'm fighting them computers on this trade :(
[14:53] <@wrbtrader> Gold, Oil showing more weakness while the DAX is lethargic...
[14:53] <@wrbtrader> don't understand why Emini ES trying to go higher without support from other key markets
[14:55] <+jbuch> phew neg on the day but not seeing anything worth getting into to.
[14:57] <@wrbtrader> Covered all ES Short @ 1084.25 --> - 2
[14:59] <@wrbtrader> Shorts ES @ 1084.50 -> large size
[14:59] <@wrbtrader> Those HFTs (high frequency trades) just showed up again
[14:59] <+jbuch> jeez everytime I start to think we r going to break out it reverses back into the dead zone
[15:00] <@wrbtrader> 6 only
[15:00] <+JimL14> let's see what happens after 3, the fomc was a 'non-event' this is the last chance for today, gc rolled over, but oil holding
[15:01] <+jbuch> lqd had plummeted but is reversing
[15:03] <@wrbtrader> Covered all ES Short @ 1085.00 --> - 0.5
[15:04] <@wrbtrader> Long ES @ 1085.25 -> large size
[15:04] <@wrbtrader> 6 only
[15:04] <+jbuch> ballzy
[15:04] <+MK> Covered all ES Short @ 1086 --> - 4.5 «« simulator »»
[15:05] <@wrbtrader> The Short was a late exit...figure the Long was safe considering it hadn't reached a profit target just yet from the 1084.50 price area
[15:07] <@wrbtrader> If the volatility remains...I have a chance at a profit.
[15:10] <+jbuch> my neck is killing me just looking at this.
[15:10] <+rickf> spx just flatlined all day
[15:10] <+rickf> boring
[15:10] <@wrbtrader> Exited all ES Long @ 1086.25 --> + 1
[15:12] <@wrbtrader> Now it hits a profit target with me not on board :(
[15:12] <+rickf> of course
[15:12] <+rickf> murphy's second law of markets
[15:12] <@wrbtrader> right back where I started after the most recent 5 trades :(
[15:13] <@wrbtrader> just paying commissions
[15:13] <+AndyES> Shorts ES @ 1087 «« simulator »»
[15:13] <@wrbtrader> 7 winners and 7 losers
[15:14] <+jbuch> tough couple of days so far this week
[15:14] <@wrbtrader> agree
[15:14] <@wrbtrader> Looks like no sushi tonight :)
[15:16] <@wrbtrader> Eurex DAX was on fire before the U.S. regular trading hours of 0930am est
[15:16] <+Francois> just order a "poutine" :-)
[15:16] <@wrbtrader> Family loves that stuff except for me.
[15:17] <@wrbtrader> Being in my 40's...gotta be careful not to clog my arteries with that stuff.
[15:17] <+Francois> right !
[15:18] <+JimL14> each serving is a yr off your life, but gooood :>>>
[15:18] <+jbuch> never heard of it
[15:19] <+Francois> small long 86.75
[15:19] <+Francois> will reverse short if goes to 86
[15:21] <+rickf> what the gym is for, wrbtrader :)
[15:21] * +rickf clears your head and your arteries
[15:22] <@wrbtrader> rickf...I spend most of my life playing competitive sports and another part in the Army Rangers...
[15:22] <@wrbtrader> No more gyms for me :)
[15:22] <+rickf> awww no morning PT?
[15:23] <@wrbtrader> Hey...I think I'm still in decent shape...
[15:23] <+Francois> tomorrow front page Dow 10000 ppl buy mutual funds and then Dow 9000
[15:23] <@wrbtrader> raced the spouse, 6 year old and 3 year old a week ago while sick...
[15:23] <+rickf> as a SF friend calls it, "john wayne high" ;)
[15:23] <@wrbtrader> I won :)
[15:23] <+rickf> hehehe nice
[15:24] <@wrbtrader> Francois...you could be right
[15:25] <+rickf> Francois: i agree
[15:25] <+rickf> GS had a thing today about how folks should be buying this market
[15:25] <+rickf> lemme find the article...
[15:25] <+rickf> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 03224.html
[15:27] <+Francois> tanx rick
[15:27] <@wrbtrader> Long ES @ 1087.75 -> small size
[15:27] <+rickf> np
[15:27] <@wrbtrader> 3 only
[15:27] <@wrbtrader> intuition
[15:27] <+AndyES> Covered all ES Short @ 1088 --> - 1 «« simulator »»
[15:28] <@wrbtrader> Exited all ES Long @ 1089.00 --> + 1.25
[15:29] <+rickf> hrmm didnt know we had an OTC market here :)
[15:31] <@wrbtrader> In hindsight and if I can start the trading day over...would just show up around 2:35pm est because everything before that was junk.
[15:32] <@wrbtrader> The appearance of consistent volatility change things around 3pm est
[15:33] <@wrbtrader> However, given the size of the HUGE overnight GAP to the upside this morning...tough to get things going again in either direction.
[15:33] <@wrbtrader> Looks like they were trying to catch their second wind all day until late in the trading day.
[15:34] <@wrbtrader> The performance of the U.S. Dollar here in Canada will soon have me switching from U.S. Dollar to the Canadian dollar...
[15:35] <@wrbtrader> Simply, I'll stop using my U.S. debit bank card here and start using my Canada debit bank card.
[15:36] <+Francois> now u can afford sushi for tonite ;-)
[15:36] <+rickf> lol
[15:36] <@wrbtrader> Yes
[15:36] <@wrbtrader> Need to make a little more though...want to get the special stuff (more expensive) and stop by the SAQ :)
[15:37] <+AndyES> Shorts ES @ 1089.5 «« simulator »»
[15:37] <+Francois> i would close my long position here but i will not because anything can happwn after 3 pm
[15:38] <+Francois> at 88.75 im out
[15:39] <@wrbtrader> Next month I may switch include CME EuroFX 6E in my trading to offset the problematic low volatility tight trading range days in Emini ES.
[15:39] <+JimL14> hard to figure this relentless buying w/o pullback, i guess big players expecting all good earnings & more gapping to the upside, they don't want to miss the easy money
[15:39] <+rickf> thank gods i closed out that spx trade on monday
[15:39] <+rickf> 6E is fun to trade
[15:39] <@wrbtrader> I usually know within the first hour if Emini ES is going to be problematic (low volatility)...
[15:39] <+rickf> well behaved
[15:40] <@wrbtrader> Can easily then switch to EuroFX 6E when I see Emini ES acting like it's still in bed
[15:40] <+rickf> 6e tracks the es but smoother action
[15:40] <+rickf> for trend trading it's pretty nice
[15:40] <@wrbtrader> With all the talk about the U.S. Dollar, Currencies et cetera...
[15:41] <+rickf> and it's not as gamed by the 'bots and HFTs like the ES I think
[15:41] <@wrbtrader> EuroFX 6E just became attractive again for trading after 0930am est
[15:41] <@wrbtrader> rickf...I agree.
[15:41] <+rickf> i was trading it this summer before my studies got ramped up again and had to scale back my trading
[15:41] <@wrbtrader> Reason why I don't want the SEC or U.S. government to get involve in stopping the HTFs.
[15:42] <@wrbtrader> If they do...those HTFs may move into other areas like EuroFX and Currencies.
[15:42] <+rickf> sssssh!!!!
[15:42] <+rickf> 6E I think has the action similar to the old ER2
[15:43] <+rickf> same tick value as the ES but better behaved :)
[15:43] * +rickf works for me
[15:43] <+Francois> all out 88.75
[15:43] <Tigerman> Shorts ES @ 1088.75 «« paper »»
[15:44] <+Tigerman> hi all :)
[15:44] <+AndyES> Covered 1/2 ES Short @ 1088.5 --> + 1 «« simulator »»
[15:46] <+Tigerman> Covered 1/3 ES Short @ 1088.25 --> + 0.5 «« paper »»
[15:47] <+Tigerman> Covered 1/3 ES Short @ 1088.25 --> + 0.5 «« paper »»
[15:47] <+Tigerman> 1 remain
[15:48] <+Tigerman> see if break 1088
[15:49] <+AndyES> Covered 1/4 ES Short @ 1087.75 --> + 1.75 «« simulator »»
[15:50] <+Forex2stay> is there a futures equivelant to GBPUSD?
[15:50] <+Tigerman> Covered Remainder ES Short @ 1087.75 --> + 1 «« paper »»
[15:50] <+Forex2stay> would that be CME? i can look there
[15:50] <+AndyES> @BP
[15:51] <+Forex2stay> ty
[15:51] <+rickf> 6B
[15:51] <+AndyES> np
[15:51] <+AndyES> yes
[15:51] <+Forex2stay> great thanks...do you know the per tick cost?
[15:51] <+Forex2stay> $6.25?
[15:51] <+AndyES> no...but I would check out CME contract specifications
[15:52] <+rickf> 12.50 i think
[15:52] <+Forex2stay> k..will check out CME...thanks guys
[15:52] <+rickf> i think all the 6- forex ones are but not sure
[15:52] <+Forex2stay> rick do you trade 6E?
[15:52] <+rickf> yes .... did a bunch this summer, need to get back to ti
[15:52] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> You must read #FuturesTrades purpose and benefits @ viewtopic.php?f=5&t=36 and TOU policy @ viewtopic.php?f=2&t=55 to prevent any misunderstandings.
[15:53] <+rickf> the 6B is 6.25 tick
[15:53] <+Forex2stay> how was liquidity compared to EURUSD spot?
[15:53] * +rickf fills kind of jumpy @ times ... might slip 2-3 ticks as the spread widens
[15:53] <+rickf> but you could get a fill no worries
[15:53] <+rickf> not like an SPX option :)
[15:53] <+Forex2stay> good to know...thanks
[15:54] <+rickf> np
[15:54] <+rickf> i tried fx spot but imho it is really really gamed
[15:56] <+rickf> 3 mins
[16:01] <+rickf> okies - off for a few before weekly webcast
[16:01] * rickf is now known as rickf_away
[16:09] <@wrbtrader> Shorts ES @ 1088.00 -> small size
[16:09] <@wrbtrader> 2 only
[16:09] <+Francois> overnire small short @ 88
[16:12] <@wrbtrader> Covered all ES Short @ 1087.50 --> + 0.5
[16:12] <+AndyES> Covered Remainder ES Short @ 1087.5 --> + 2 «« simulator »»
[16:13] <@wrbtrader> If there was more time in the trading day...that would go lower...
[16:13] <+AndyES> agree
[16:13] <@wrbtrader> Too bad I never have time to hang around to watch the prices reopen around 4:40pm est
[16:14] <@wrbtrader> meant 4:30pm est
[16:14] <@wrbtrader> On big stock news releases after the bell...lots of price movement in futures
[16:17] <+Tigerman> see all next time
[16:17] <+Tigerman> bye
[16:17] <+AndyES> see ya'll
[16:18] <+Francois> gn all
[17:37] * codehead is now known as codehead_afk
[17:58] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> You must read #FuturesTrades purpose and benefits @ viewtopic.php?f=5&t=36 and TOU policy @ viewtopic.php?f=2&t=55 to prevent any misunderstandings.
Session Close: Thu Oct 15 00:00:00 2009

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