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 Post subject: September 4th Friday 2009 - Futures, ETFs and Forex
 Post Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 3:47 pm 
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Session Start: Fri Sep 04 09:02:05 2009
Session Ident: #futurestrades
[09:02] * Now talking in #futurestrades
[09:02] <@X> [NihabaAshi] Announcement: The new trade posting script v3.7 (replaces v3.6) is posted at your forum in the "Announcements" thread.
[09:29] <drt> gm all
[09:34] <@wrbtrader> Long ES @ 1003.75 -> large size
[09:34] <@wrbtrader> 6 only
[09:41] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> You must read #FuturesTrades purpose and benefits @ viewtopic.php?f=5&t=36 and TOU policy @ viewtopic.php?f=2&t=55 to prevent any misunderstandings.
[09:41] <@wrbtrader> Exited all ES Long @ 1005.00 --> + 1.25
[09:42] <@wrbtrader> punks
[09:43] <@wrbtrader> odds of this retracing now is low :(
[09:48] <Forex2stay_Away> EURO freakin chop fest after the unemployement action
[09:48] * Forex2stay_Away is now known as Forex2stay
[09:48] <[1]luffy> gm
[09:51] <@wrbtrader> Shorts ES @ 1002.525 -> large size
[09:51] <@wrbtrader> Shorts ES @ 1002.25 -> large size
[09:51] <@wrbtrader> repost
[09:54] <@wrbtrader> Covered all ES Short @ 1002.00 --> + 0.25
[09:55] <@wrbtrader> Long ES @ 1002.75 -> medium size
[09:55] <@wrbtrader> 4 only
[09:57] <pdays> Shorts ES @ 1002.25
[09:58] <+pdays> Covered all ES Short @ 1003.75 --> - 1.5
[09:59] <+drt> s es 03.50
[09:59] <@wrbtrader> Exited all ES Long @ 1002.75 --> 0
[09:59] <@wrbtrader> punks
[10:02] <@wrbtrader> Long ES @ 1003.50 -> large size
[10:02] <pat255> gm alll @office
[10:02] <@wrbtrader> 6 only
[10:02] <+drt> cs es 03.50
[10:04] <@wrbtrader> Exited all ES Long @ 1003.75 --> + 0.25
[10:06] <@wrbtrader> these retracements area a pain in the butt
[10:07] <@wrbtrader> Long ES @ 1004.50 -> large size
[10:07] <@wrbtrader> 9 only
[10:09] <@wrbtrader> volatility just died :(
[10:10] <@wrbtrader> Hopefully it's setting up for a volatility spike
[10:10] <@wrbtrader> Exited all ES Long @ 1003.50 --> - 1
[10:13] <@wrbtrader> Long ES @ 1005.00 -> large size
[10:13] <@wrbtrader> 9 only
[10:13] <@wrbtrader> Well...got the direction correct...just can't stay in the trade to profit from it :(
[10:14] <+pat255> y ..looks like L is the way on pb
[10:14] <@wrbtrader> There's a tough price zone between 1005 - 1004
[10:15] <@wrbtrader> It's a pain to trade within so far
[10:22] <+pat255> this is tuff to trade
[10:22] <@wrbtrader> strongly agree
[10:23] <+pat255> going your way vn
[10:23] <@wrbtrader> I still think it has a good chance for the trading day to develop into a trend day or strong volatility swing day...
[10:23] <@wrbtrader> So far...have not seen such :(
[10:24] <@wrbtrader> Yet, just in case I'm right...I've been holding trades a lot longer than I normally do.
[10:25] <@wrbtrader> It's been more costly than rewarding to do such so far
[10:26] <@wrbtrader> Exited all ES Long @ 1005.75 --> + 0.75
[10:26] <@wrbtrader> early out on my own...
[10:26] <@wrbtrader> just got tired of watching the price action.
[10:27] <+pat255> y not esy to hold ...this slow move
[10:27] <@wrbtrader> Be back later...going to go do some personal stuff to lesson the frustration
[10:27] * wrbtrader is now known as wrbtrader_away
[10:55] <+Forex2stay> so use to the replay function in NinjaTrder and i'm wanting to switch to 3x speed to fast forward through this boring part....
[10:55] <jbuch> lol
[10:57] <+jbuch> the upside is that u can leave for a while and don't have to worry about the market getting away from ya.
[10:57] <+Forex2stay> that's true
[11:00] <+jbuch> vol for the second half hour was like 2 standard deviations below avg
[11:01] <+jbuch> don't think that this choppiness is going to improve
[11:02] <+jbuch> I think that I would go ahead and drag to the last hour forex2
[11:07] <+Forex2stay> yep...fast fast forwarding now...
[11:08] <+Forex2stay> finally got a little runner with GBPUSD...green for the day but in red with commissions...getting chopped around...chop is not run of my stong points
[11:11] <+jbuch> same here forex
[11:13] <+Forex2stay> just not sure how to identify...cause most of the larger moves come out of the chop or congested zone :(
[11:13] <+Forex2stay> but i don't like Breakout...i like anticipating breakouts
[11:14] <+jbuch> same here
[11:16] <+jbuch> especially when the market is like this
[11:16] <+Forex2stay> yep
[11:17] <+jbuch> if the market is moving don't mind them but but everything will be tested 2 or 3 times in this kinda junk
[11:18] <+Forex2stay> i agree
[11:18] <+jbuch> thats when u reallly get chopped to pieces.
[11:27] <+jbuch> Long ES @ 1005
[11:31] <+jbuch> Exited all ES Long @ 1004.75 --> - 0.25
[11:36] <+jbuch> shoot
[11:37] <+jbuch> screwed that up
[11:44] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> You must read #FuturesTrades purpose and benefits @ viewtopic.php?f=5&t=36 and TOU policy @ viewtopic.php?f=2&t=55 to prevent any misunderstandings.
[12:02] <+codehead> short ES 1009.25 <paper> 1 pt stop
[12:02] <+codehead> 1.25 stop
[12:02] <+codehead> above that, might go to 1015
[12:05] <+codehead> stop 1.00
[12:05] * wrbtrader_away is now known as wrbtrader
[12:05] <+codehead> stopped -1.00 <paper>
[12:07] <@wrbtrader> Got back in time for some volatility...hopefully it will last
[12:08] <+jbuch> man I have written the bull run off so many times and it just keeps powering off of swing lows
[12:14] <@wrbtrader> This is one of my favorite money blogs @ http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/
[12:14] <@wrbtrader> Yep...by NPR :)
[12:15] <@wrbtrader> Long ES @ 1013.25 -> medium size
[12:15] <@wrbtrader> 4 only
[12:18] <@wrbtrader> Exited all ES Long @ 1013.00 --> - 0.25
[12:20] <@wrbtrader> Long ES @ 1012.75 -> medium size
[12:21] <@wrbtrader> 4 only
[12:21] <@wrbtrader> intuition in reaction to prior trade
[12:23] <+Forex2stay> just checked my stats...and win/loss % is 45.45% today, but after commissions im in the green, so i think my position sizing and MM was key today...
[12:23] <+Forex2stay> largest win was 41 pips, largest loss was 20 pips
[12:23] <+Forex2stay> so that also helped
[12:24] <+Forex2stay> that should be largest loss -20 pips
[12:25] <@wrbtrader> Exited all ES Long @ 1013.25 --> + 0.5
[12:33] <OICU812> good morning all
[12:38] <+codehead> hi O
[12:51] <+codehead> 1015.00 is .500 retracement and nice wave symmetry
[12:52] <+codehead> so reversal possible
[12:52] <+codehead> if it get thru that, it's long still
[12:52] <+codehead> say touch of 1015.75
[13:28] <+jbuch> back were it all began
[13:40] <+jbuch> tick taggd 1576
[13:42] <+jbuch> that is the highest of the year on trade station.
[13:44] <+jbuch> Long ES @ 1013.75
[13:46] <+OICU812> whats up mr JB
[13:47] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> You must read #FuturesTrades purpose and benefits @ viewtopic.php?f=5&t=36 and TOU policy @ viewtopic.php?f=2&t=55 to prevent any misunderstandings.
[13:53] <+jbuch> Exited all ES Long @ 1012.75 --> - 1
[13:54] <+jbuch> brokemy rules with that entry
[13:54] <+jbuch> doing good OIC how about yourself
[13:56] <+OICU812> doing good too :)
[13:57] <+jbuch> Long ES @ 1013.25
[13:57] <+jbuch> meant to take it at 1013
[13:57] <+jbuch> slipped
[14:01] <+OICU812> i have 1/3 of a long and closing it at 1012 if it hits
[14:01] <+OICU812> or if it does not get to 1015.75
[14:11] <+jbuch> 12.75 needs to hold
[14:11] <+jbuch> fourth time here
[14:14] <+jbuch> tick moving up.
[14:15] <+jbuch> jeeze
[14:18] <+jbuch> here we go
[14:19] <+jbuch> come on darling don't be mean
[14:22] <+jbuch> I keep thinking that ts has frozen
[14:23] <tomosyn57> paint almost dry
[14:24] <+jbuch> ruh roo
[14:26] <+jbuch> come on .75
[14:27] <+Forex2stay> everybody push.....
[14:27] <+tomosyn57> traders left early for the holiday
[14:29] <+jbuch> Exited all ES Long @ 1012.5 --> - 0.75
[14:29] <+jbuch> thats a heartbreaker
[14:30] <+Forex2stay> that broke fast
[14:33] <+jbuch> I thought that it would just anticipated that it would be going up
[14:35] <+Forex2stay> that website wrbtrader mentioned earlier has some nice unemployement numbers in it
[14:35] <+Forex2stay> not that the numbers are good, but rather the information about the numbers
[14:37] <winmax60> hello everyone... have a great holiday.... will see you all back on Tuesday.....Thanks..wrbtrader
[14:37] <+Forex2stay> have a good weekend win...
[14:38] <+jbuch> cya win
[14:39] <+jbuch> Long ES @ 1012.5
[14:40] <+jbuch> Exited all ES Long @ 1012.25 --> - 0.25
[14:41] <+jbuch> not in touch today
[14:42] <+Forex2stay> you're not alone...last two days have been like that for me
[14:46] <+jbuch> Long ES @ 1350
[14:46] <+jbuch> now I am chasing
[14:46] <+jbuch> the last trade for me today
[14:50] <+codehead> potential for a little h&s on the indices
[14:57] <+Forex2stay> everyone have a good weekend...see ya Tuesday
[14:58] * Forex2stay is now known as Forex2stay_Away
[14:59] <+jbuch> violent
[15:07] <+jbuch> Exited all ES Long @ 1014.5 --> - 335.5
[15:07] <+jbuch> sounds about right
[15:09] <@wrbtrader> Shorts ES @ 1013.50 -> small size
[15:09] <@wrbtrader> 3 only
[15:14] <@wrbtrader> Anybody considers today a trend day...I'm still not sure if I should categorize it as such. ???
[15:15] <@wrbtrader> Part of my problem is that I took two frustration breaks from trading today...both times while gone a strong price movement occurred.
[15:15] <+jbuch> I would especially if u combine with yesterday afternoon
[15:17] <@wrbtrader> Covered all ES Short @ 1013.25 --> + 0.25
[15:18] <+OICU812> that depends on the time frame you are seeing it in wrbtrader
[15:19] <@wrbtrader> true
[15:20] <+jbuch> heavy resitance 15 but if we get back up there today think we will move up again
[15:20] <+jbuch> Long ES @ 1013.25
[15:21] <@wrbtrader> Yeah...if we get back above 15 going into the 3:50pm est...it'll try to take out 1016
[15:21] <+jbuch> that sounded like such good advise I thought I should take it
[15:21] <+OICU812> im done for the week so no more trades for me :)
[15:23] <+jbuch> Yeah I hate to have a negative friday so going back on my word
[15:23] <+OICU812> negative today?
[15:24] <+jbuch> yup :(
[15:24] <+OICU812> sorry to hear man
[15:24] <+jbuch> just a lil bit have only taken a few trades
[15:25] <+jbuch> Exited all ES Long @ 1350 --> + 336.75
[15:26] <+jbuch> I keep screwing those entries
[15:47] <@wrbtrader> Long ES @ 1015.00 -> small size
[15:47] <@wrbtrader> 3 only
[15:49] <+Forex2stay_Away> looks like it might blow
[15:50] <@wrbtrader> Exited all ES Long @ 1015.25 --> + 0.25
[15:50] <@wrbtrader> :(
[15:51] <+Forex2stay_Away> that baby wanted to pop
[15:52] <+Forex2stay_Away> okay really going this time...wife calling for me...have a good weekend everyone
[15:53] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> You must read #FuturesTrades purpose and benefits @ viewtopic.php?f=5&t=36 and TOU policy @ viewtopic.php?f=2&t=55 to prevent any misunderstandings.
[15:56] <@wrbtrader> Long ES @ 1015.25 -> small size
[15:56] <@wrbtrader> 3 only
[15:58] <@wrbtrader> tighten stop to breakeven
[15:59] <@wrbtrader> This thing can easily jump all over the place at 4pm est
[15:59] <@wrbtrader> Exited all ES Long @ 1015.50 --> + 0.25
[16:00] <+OICU812> have a good long weekend everyon
[16:00] <+OICU812> im out of here
[16:01] <@wrbtrader> Enjoy...take care
Session Close: Fri Sep 04 16:44:33 2009

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