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 Post subject: September 28th Monday - Futures, ETFs and Forex
 Post Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:20 am 
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Session Start: Mon Sep 28 09:28:52 2009
Session Ident: #futurestrades
[09:28] * Now talking in #futurestrades
[09:28] <@X> [NihabaAshi] Announcement: The new trade posting script v3.7 (replaces v3.6) is posted at your forum in the "Announcements" thread.
[09:29] <drt> gm all
[09:30] <rickf> gm
[09:31] <Forex2stay> gm
[09:32] <jbuch> morning all
[09:33] <OICU812> GM
[09:33] <TraderG> gm
[09:34] <+TraderG> raining cats and dogs here
[09:34] <+TraderG> and some water too
[09:34] <+jbuch> :)
[09:35] <pat255> no report today
[09:35] <@wrbtrader> Long ES @ 1045.25 -> large size
[09:35] <@wrbtrader> 9 only
[09:37] <@wrbtrader> Exited all ES Long @ 1045.25 --> 0
[09:38] <+pat255> was good entry ...missed it
[09:39] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> You must read #FuturesTrades purpose and benefits @ viewtopic.php?f=5&t=36 and TOU policy @ viewtopic.php?f=2&t=55 to prevent any misunderstandings.
[09:39] <pdays> Shorts TF @ 599.7
[09:40] <+pdays> Covered 1/2 TF Short @ 599.4 --> + 0.3
[09:40] <+pdays> Covered Remainder TF Short @ 599.2 --> + 0.5
[09:40] <+jbuch> Long ES @ 1045.25
[09:42] <@wrbtrader> Shorts ES @ 1046.25 -> large size
[09:42] <@wrbtrader> 9 only
[09:43] <+rickf> for some reason i have been futzing with my chart timeframes this past week -- not sure why, almost like i'm hunting for an entry or something
[09:43] <+rickf> i used to have 2 timeframes -- premarket-until-10 and then one for the rest of the day
[09:43] <@wrbtrader> Covered all ES Short @ 1047.50 --> - 1.25
[09:43] <+rickf> i don't like doing that so frequently :(
[09:44] <+jbuch> Exited all ES Long @ 1047.75 --> + 2.5
[09:44] <+rickf> vm jb
[09:44] <+jbuch> thanks
[09:45] <+pat255> geez ...
[09:45] <+pat255> vn jb
[09:46] <+jbuch> not as nice as it coulda been
[09:46] <+pat255> man just took off
[09:46] <@wrbtrader> ES is within a BIG window of supply/demand right now 1057.00 - 1048.75
[09:46] <codehead> short ES 1051.00
[09:47] <+jbuch> thought we would stay in that range for a while longer
[09:47] <+codehead> stop 152.25
[09:47] <+jbuch> Long ES @ 1050.75
[09:48] <+jbuch> Exited all ES Long @ 1051.75 --> + 1
[09:53] <+codehead> stopped out -1.25
[09:55] <@wrbtrader> Shorts ES @ 1052.25 -> large size
[09:55] <@wrbtrader> 9 only
[09:59] <+jbuch> Long ES @ 1051.5
[09:59] <@wrbtrader> Covered all ES Short @ 1051.75 --> + 0.5
[10:00] <@wrbtrader> that's actually a late post
[10:00] <@wrbtrader> be back later...gotta take care of a bad cough I have
[10:00] * wrbtrader is now known as wrbtrader_away
[10:00] <+jbuch> Exited all ES Long @ 1053.5 --> + 2
[10:01] <+OICU812> nice trading today jb
[10:01] <+jbuch> thanks oic
[10:15] * wrbtrader_away is now known as wrbtrader
[10:16] <@wrbtrader> We're a lot closer now to that 1057 area of that big zone
[10:16] <+pat255> y seems pent up demand after 2-3 days of down draft
[10:18] <+OICU812> tying a short
[10:18] <+OICU812> lets see how it does
[10:20] <+OICU812> scaled 54
[10:20] <@wrbtrader> Long ES @ 1054.00 -> large size
[10:20] <@wrbtrader> 6 only
[10:20] <@wrbtrader> volatility declining
[10:27] <@wrbtrader> Exited all ES Long @ 1054.00 --> 0
[10:28] <@wrbtrader> next trade will most likely be an intuition trade
[10:29] <@wrbtrader> Long ES @ 1054.25 -> large size
[10:29] <@wrbtrader> 9 only
[10:31] <+OICU812> well BE on the last leg of my short
[10:32] <+pat255> vn N ...gutsy trade ..
[10:33] <@wrbtrader> Exited all ES Long @ 1056.25 --> + 2
[10:33] <@wrbtrader> that's an EARLY exit
[10:33] <@wrbtrader> my uncontrollable cough has returned...
[10:34] <@wrbtrader> Going to go to the pharmacy and get some medicine...be back later.
[10:34] * wrbtrader is now known as wrbtrader_away
[10:37] <+jbuch> strong up move but the vol is realtively light especially when compared with last weeks plummetwhich was on extremely high vol
[10:38] <+pat255> unbelievable
[10:38] <+codehead> short ES 1056.75 <paper>
[10:38] <+codehead> 5 ticks stop
[10:38] <+codehead> close ot a small gap fill, otherwise it goes to 1060
[10:39] <+codehead> Jewish holiday today, right?
[10:39] <+jbuch> nice tick divg
[10:39] <+codehead> exit half ES +1.00 <paper>
[10:46] <+OICU812> prepping for a move down?
[10:46] <+OICU812> looks like the one up has exhausted
[10:47] <+OICU812> bit unsure at this time
[10:48] <+codehead> 1052.75 downside target first on ES
[10:49] <+codehead> if that was top for now
[10:52] <+codehead> lower stop to 1057.25 <paper>
[11:07] <+codehead> exit remainder ES +.25<paper>
[11:07] <+codehead> taking too long, may go to 1060
[11:15] <+codehead> German mkt helping things up
[11:15] <+codehead> election
[11:15] <+jbuch> just bought some uso in case isreal bombs Iran
[11:17] <+codehead> lol--mccain... bomb bomb, bomb bomb iran...
[11:18] <+codehead> who can forget that little gem
[11:18] <Nesi> hi all
[11:19] <+jbuch> hey nesi
[11:19] <+pat255> hi nesi
[11:19] <+pat255> jb USO oil?
[11:20] <+jbuch> yeah code that was a riot when McCain lost it I espacially liked how he laterplayed it off as just a joke
[11:21] <+codehead> great moments in politics
[11:21] <+jbuch> yeah pat
[11:23] <+jbuch> USO chart looks UUUUGLY but will GIVE IT A RUN
[11:23] <+Nesi> Shorts ES @ 1056.75 «« simulator »»
[11:26] <+codehead> ES filled a gap
[11:26] <+codehead> 1057.25
[11:26] <+codehead> short 1c ES 1056.50 <paper>
[11:27] <+codehead> 6 tick stop for now
[11:28] <+jbuch> Long ES @ 1057
[11:31] <+codehead> stopped on ES 1c -1.5
[11:34] <+jbuch> Exited all ES Long @ 1058 --> + 1
[11:34] <+pat255> vn jb ..gutsy but correct trade
[11:34] <+jbuch> chased it all the way up from 56.5
[11:35] <+jbuch> so bad entry with a large stop but with trend so it worked for a lil bit
[11:35] <+pat255> 2-3 ticks not bad
[11:36] <+Nesi> Shorts ES @ 1057.50 -> Add «« simulator »»
[11:45] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> You must read #FuturesTrades purpose and benefits @ viewtopic.php?f=5&t=36 and TOU policy @ viewtopic.php?f=2&t=55 to prevent any misunderstandings.
[12:13] <+OICU812> non stop up day
[13:04] <+jbuch> Long ES @ 1058.25
[13:12] <+jbuch> exit stop set ES @ 1057.5
[13:23] <+jbuch> Exited all ES Long @ 1058.5 --> + 0.25
[13:48] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> You must read #FuturesTrades purpose and benefits @ viewtopic.php?f=5&t=36 and TOU policy @ viewtopic.php?f=2&t=55 to prevent any misunderstandings.
[13:56] <tomosyn57> Shorts SSO @ 34.75
[13:59] <+tomosyn57> Covered 1/2 SSO Short @ 34.73 --> + 0.02
[14:01] <+rickf> long es 1058.75 paper
[14:02] <+tomosyn57> Covered Remainder SSO Short @ 34.76 --> - 0.01
[14:07] * code is now known as codehead
[14:21] <+jbuch> Long ES @ 1058.5
[14:22] <+jbuch> wasn't paying attention missed the good entry at 57.75
[14:27] <+rickf> exit es 1059 +.25 paper
[14:28] <+rickf> lol
[14:30] <+jbuch> Exited all ES Long @ 1059 --> + 0.5
[14:31] <+Nesi> majority expecting a rally here..imho.. for big 10k again, usually majority is wrong
[14:47] <+jbuch> Long ES @ 1058
[14:57] <+jbuch> looks reaaly good on the 30 min if we can maintain
[15:00] <+jbuch> ruh roh
[15:01] <+rickf> 1057 congestion area on the 30m, no?
[15:01] <+jbuch> Exited all ES Long @ 1057.25 --> - 0.75
[15:01] <+rickf> then cler to 1068-70 i would think if we break through that
[15:02] <+jbuch> we had a double hammer but crumpled the last couple of seconds
[15:02] <+rickf> the past week i've been sorely tempted to just stick with a 5m chart -- too tempting to enter in the middle of chop :(
[15:03] <+jbuch> Long ES @ 1057
[15:03] <+rickf> sell stop 1056 paper
[15:09] <+rickf> getting conflicting signals here -- still holding out for a short breakdown though
[15:10] <jigglyhippo> jb
[15:10] <+jigglyhippo> I'm long with you at 1057
[15:10] <+jbuch> u might be waiting for a while
[15:10] <+jigglyhippo> stop at 1055
[15:10] <+jbuch> :)
[15:10] <+rickf> lol
[15:11] <+jbuch> should'nt have said that the surest way to have a set up fail is cockiness.
[15:12] <+jbuch> the trading gods no like it
[15:12] <+rickf> right now it could go either way ... as i said, conflicting signals to me
[15:12] <+jigglyhippo> they will smite you!
[15:12] <+jbuch> lol
[15:12] <+jbuch> looks like they want to
[15:13] <+jbuch> they will probably come back down tag me out and then go
[15:19] <+jigglyhippo> wheres your stop
[15:19] <+jbuch> here we go
[15:20] <+jbuch> sorry jh just saw the ? below the last swing at 1056
[15:20] <+jigglyhippo> cool
[15:23] <+jigglyhippo> exited 1/2 at 1059
[15:24] <+jbuch> good place to bail only have 1 trying to move my stop up
[15:26] <+jigglyhippo> ill bail if it hits 1058 again
[15:30] <+jigglyhippo> taken out
[15:30] <+jigglyhippo> 1058
[15:30] <+jbuch> Exited all ES Long @ 1057.75 --> + 0.75
[15:31] <+jbuch> been kicking my self in the arse for early exits on trades the last couple of days and the one I try to hang onto fails.
[15:32] <+jigglyhippo> tough man
[15:32] <+jigglyhippo> sounds very frustrating
[15:32] <+jbuch> don't piss the gods off
[15:34] <+jbuch> Long ES @ 1058.5
[15:35] <+jbuch> I am lighting some incense at the alter
[15:35] <+jigglyhippo> lol
[15:44] <+jbuch> Exited all ES Long @ 1057.75 --> - 0.75
[15:49] <+rickf> short @ 1056 paper
[15:51] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> You must read #FuturesTrades purpose and benefits @ viewtopic.php?f=5&t=36 and TOU policy @ viewtopic.php?f=2&t=55 to prevent any misunderstandings.
[15:52] <+jbuch> Long ES @ 1056.5
[15:53] <+Nesi> Covered all ES Short @ 1056.75 --> + 0.75 «« simulator »»
[15:53] <+Nesi> good night all
[15:54] <codehead> 1060.50 was .618 bounce, 1075.5 market high to overnight low 1035.75
[15:54] <+codehead> i did a chart last night with level at 1060.0-1060.50
[15:54] <+codehead> (1060.0 was symmetry)
[15:54] <+codehead> i didn't think it would get there in one move tho :-/
[15:56] <+jbuch> what a choppy biatch
[15:58] <OICU812> +1 jb
[15:58] <+OICU812> but trend seems down
[15:59] <+jbuch> shame it so late
[16:00] <+jbuch> Exited all ES Long @ 1058.5 --> + 2
[16:00] <+jbuch> ohh lucky exit
[16:00] <+OICU812> :)
[16:00] <+jbuch> I am back in favor with the gods
[16:00] <+OICU812> nice one
[16:02] <+OICU812> well guys
[16:02] <+OICU812> have a good PM
[16:02] <+rickf> back - out at 57.50 -1.5 paper
[16:03] * +rickf serves me right for doing a counter-trend setup :|
[16:04] <+rickf> er, trying to predict a breakout
[16:13] <+jigglyhippo> later everyone
[16:13] <+jigglyhippo> see you guys tomrrow
[17:57] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> You must read #FuturesTrades purpose and benefits @ viewtopic.php?f=5&t=36 and TOU policy @ viewtopic.php?f=2&t=55 to prevent any misunderstandings.

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