Session Start: Fri Jan 23 09:26:41 2009
Session Ident: #FuturesTrades
[09:26] * Now talking in #FuturesTrades
[09:26] <@X> [NihabaAshi] Announcement: The new trade posting script v3.7 (replaces v3.6) is posted at your forum in the "Announcements" thread.
[09:28] <drt> good morning
[09:31] <werner>
all...pff again a gap
[09:40] <rickf> long es 807.25
[09:41] <+rickf> out 808.50 +1.25
[09:41] <+codehead> ES has upside targets 810.50, 813.75
[09:41] <+werner> jumpy...brr
[09:46] <+codehead> 810.75--took that first target out
[09:46] <+codehead> and pulled back
[09:52] <jbuch1> Long ES @ 810.25 «« simulator »»
[09:54] <+werner> nice one
[09:55] <+jbuch1> Exited 1/2 ES Long @ 812 --> + 1.75 «« simulator »»
[10:00] <+jbuch1> Exited 1/4 ES Long @ 809.75 --> - 0.5 «« simulator »»
[10:00] <+jbuch1> Long ES @ 812.25 «« simulator »»
[10:02] <@NihabaAshi> Long ES @ 812.00 -> small size
[10:02] <@NihabaAshi> 3 only
[10:02] <szubaark> Buys ES @ 813.25 «« paper »»
[10:03] <+szubaark> Exited all Long ES at 814.25 --> + 1 «« paper »»
[10:03] <@NihabaAshi> Exited all ES Long @ 814.25 --> + 2.25
[10:03] <+jbuch1> Exited 1/2 ES Long @ 814.25 --> + 2 «« simulator »»
[10:05] <+jbuch1> Exited Remainder ES Long @ 813. --> + 0.75 «« simulator »»
[10:08] <pdays> Long TF @ 433.5
[10:08] <+pdays> Exited 1/2 TF Long @ 433.7 --> + 0.2
[10:09] <+pdays> Exited Remainder TF Long @ 435.1 --> + 1.6
[10:09] <+jbuch1> pdays what is TF?
[10:11] <+werner> TF = the russel 2000
[10:11] <@NihabaAshi> TF on ICE exchange is formerly known as Emini ER2 on CME exchange
[10:11] <+jbuch1> Long ES @ 812.25 «« simulator »»
[10:12] <+jbuch1> thanks
[10:12] <+jbuch1> Exited Remainder ES Long @ 812.5 --> + 0.25 «« simulator »»
[10:14] <+werner> Long NQ @ 1154.50
[10:14] <+jbuch1> Long ES @ 813.25 «« simulator »»
[10:15] <+werner> Exited all NQ Long @ 1158.25 --> + 3.75
[10:16] <+szubaark> nice Longs
[10:16] <+jbuch1> Exited 1/2 ES Long @ 814.75 --> + 1.5 «« simulator »»
[10:16] <+werner> tx
[10:16] <+rickf> vn
[10:20] <+jbuch1> Exited 1/4 ES Long @ 815.25 --> + 2 «« simulator »»
[10:20] <+jbuch1> Exited Remainder ES Long @ 812.75 --> - 0.5 «« simulator »»
[10:21] <kosmipt> Shorts ES @ 813 «« simulator »»
[10:24] <+kosmipt> Covered all ES Short @ 816 --> - 3 «« simulator »»
[10:25] <+jbuch1> missed that entry so I am sure that it will run like the wind ;9
[10:25] <+szubaark> sneaky Opening, showing all sounds of Weakness, YET it keeps climbing up
[10:34] <+rickf> short es 811.25
[10:40] <+szubaark> Shorts ES @ 810.50 «« paper »»
[10:41] <+szubaark> Covered all Short ES at 809.50 --> + 1 «« paper »»
[10:41] <Sidhartha> Shorts ES @ 809 «« testing script »»
[10:42] <+rickf> out 909.50 +1,75
[10:42] <+rickf> er 809.50
[10:42] <+rickf> finally
[10:43] <+werner> nice
[10:43] <+rickf> thx
[10:43] <+jbuch1> way to hang yough rick
[10:43] <+rickf> and as i managed that trade my short ge puts fired
[10:43] <+rickf> thx
[10:43] <+jbuch1> oops tough
[10:43] <+szubaark> nice patience rick
[10:43] <+rickf> got worried - scaled back positions to 2 contracts after being stupid yesterday
[10:44] <+rickf> almost bailed
[10:54] <+jbuch1> Long ES @ 811.75 «« simulator »»
[10:55] <+rickf> ok back later - going to gym
[10:56] <+werner>
also
[10:56] <+jbuch1> Exited all ES Long @ 812 --> + 0.25 «« simulator »»
[11:00] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Archived trade posting chat logs have a new location. They are now stored @
viewforum.php?f=20[11:26] <+jbuch1> gap closed
[11:26] <+jbuch1> on ES
[11:28] <+jbuch1> Shorts ES @ 820.75 «« simulator »»
[11:31] <+szubaark> all of Overnight losses recovered
[11:32] <+jbuch1> Covered Remainder ES Short @ 821 --> - 0.25 «« simulator »»
[11:32] <+jbuch1> Long ES @ 822.25 «« simulator »»
[11:33] <+jbuch1> Exited all ES Long @ 821.25 --> - 1 «« simulator »»
[12:04] <+rickf> bak
[12:18] <+codehead> short YM 7967 <paper>, stop 7976, scalp
[12:20] <+codehead> exit YM +10 <paper>
[12:20] <+werner> back
[12:27] <+jbuch1> Shorts ES @ 821.5 «« simulator »»
[12:28] <+werner> Long NQ @ 1169.50
[12:28] <+werner> Exited all NQ Long @ 1170.50 --> + 1
[12:29] <+jbuch1> Covered all ES Short @ 822 --> - 0.5 «« simulator »»
[12:29] <+jbuch1> Long ES @ 823.75 «« simulator »»
[12:30] <+jbuch1> Exited all ES Long @ 82.75 --> - 741 «« simulator »»
[12:35] <+werner> Shorts NQ @ 1168.50
[12:36] <+werner> Long NQ @ 1166..00 -> Add
[12:38] <+werner> Exited all NQ Long @ 1168.00 --> - 0.5
[12:38] <+werner> pfff
[12:39] <+rickf> short es 817
[12:42] <+rickf> out 817 b/e
[12:42] <+werner> short 1168.50 = long and add 1166.00 out all 1168.00=+1.5
[12:44] <+codehead> long 1c YM 7940 <paper> stop under 7920
[12:46] <+jbuch1> Long ES @ 818.75 «« simulator »»
[12:46] <+codehead> raise stop 7960 YM
[12:47] <+werner> Shorts NQ @ 1169.50
[12:47] <+codehead> raise stop 7970 YM
[12:47] <+jbuch1> Exited 1/2 ES Long @ 822 --> + 3.25 «« simulator »»
[12:47] <+codehead> exit YM +35 <paper>
[12:48] <+werner> Covered all NQ Short @ 11171.50 --> - 10002
[12:48] <+werner> 1171.50
[12:48] <+werner> -2
[12:49] <+jbuch1> Exited 1/4 ES Long @ 823.75 --> + 5 «« simulator »»
[12:49] <+codehead> should have left stop--nice move
[12:49] <+werner> vn
[12:50] <+jbuch1> thnks
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[12:50] <+rickf> wtg
[12:51] <+rickf> more chop
[12:54] <+jbuch1> Exited Remainder ES Long @ 821.5 --> + 2.75 «« simulator »»
[12:58] <+werner> Shorts NQ @ 1171.00
[12:59] <+werner> Covered all NQ Short @ 1170.00 --> + 1
[13:01] <+werner> what a mess
[13:02] <+rickf> no kidding
[13:02] <+werner>
[13:02] <+szubaark> we getting more and more of this lately
[13:03] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Archived trade posting chat logs have a new location. They are now stored @
viewforum.php?f=20[13:03] <+rickf> yeah - not the best market to trade
[13:05] <+codehead> QM 45
[13:07] <+werner> Long NQ @ 1169.00
[13:09] <+werner> Exited all NQ Long @ 1170..50 --> + 1170..50 - 1169.00
[13:09] <+szubaark> good scalp
[13:09] <+werner> pffff
[13:09] <+werner> tx
[13:10] <+werner> Long NQ @ 1167.00 «« testing script »»
[13:11] <+werner> Exited all NQ Long @ 1168.00 --> + 1 «« testing script »»
[13:11] <+werner> mm
[13:12] <+werner> Long NQ @ 1174.00
[13:13] <+werner> Exited all NQ Long @ 1174.50 --> + 0.5
[13:13] <+werner> Long NQ @ 1175.00
[13:14] <+werner> Exited all NQ Long @ 1177.50 --> + 2.5
[13:21] <+werner> Shorts NQ @ 1181.00
[13:22] <+werner> Covered all NQ Short @ 11790.00 --> - 10609
[13:22] <+werner> 1179.00
[13:23] <+werner> to fast for me to post.....
[13:23] <+rickf> nice
[13:23] <+werner>
[13:28] <+jbuch1> nice wern
[13:28] <+werner> tx
[13:30] <+jbuch1> Shorts ES @ 827.5 «« simulator »»
[13:31] <+jbuch1> Covered all ES Short @ 827.5 --> 0 «« simulator »»
[13:32] <+rickf> long es 828
[13:32] <+rickf> exit 28
[13:32] <+rickf> +1
[13:32] <+szubaark> nice
[13:32] <+rickf> again early exit
[13:32] <+rickf> that big red candle scared me
[13:33] <winmax60> Long NQ @ 1182.25 -> small size «« simulator »»
[13:33] <+rickf> felt like the computers kicked in
[13:33] <+werner> its a +
[13:33] <+rickf> indeed
[13:33] <+rickf> goofy action lets me work on my equity stuff anyway
[13:33] <+winmax60> Exited all NQ Long @ 1182.25 --> 0 «« simulator »»
[13:35] <+winmax60> Long NQ @ 1183.25 -> small size «« simulator »»
[13:35] <+jbuch1> I'm off, have a good weekend everyone
[13:35] <+winmax60> Exited all NQ Long @ 1185.25 --> + 2 «« simulator »»
[13:35] * Forex2stay is now known as Forex2stay_Away
[13:38] <+werner>
[13:45] <+rickf> ;pmg es 830.50
[13:45] <+rickf> long
[13:46] <+rickf> out 831 +.5
[13:46] <pat255> man this is just chop ...hard to trade
[13:47] <+pat255> but L side is better
[13:49] <+rickf> trend is still long
[13:51] <szubaark> hi pat
[13:53] <+pat255> hi szu
[13:53] <+rickf> short es 829
[13:56] <+rickf> out 830 -1
[13:58] <+rickf> long 930.25
[13:58] <+rickf> out 933
[13:59] <+rickf> +2.75
[13:59] <+rickf> these afternoon essions scare me
[14:00] <+szubaark> lol..plus its friday..probboly get worse
[14:00] <+rickf> rather go in with a fixed target and get out with a profit than risk giving it back on an intrabar retrace
[14:00] <+rickf> even if it means giving up more upside
[14:01] <+szubaark> just creeping higher..each Short setup is few tick Scalp or breakeven, not even worth it for me
[14:02] <+szubaark> Longs take forever to get any ticks..in hindsight it looks like easy trend day for Longs of course
[14:03] <@NihabaAshi> I'm back and ready to trade
[14:03] <+rickf> there should be a rule - if you commit to being @ your desk tape reading, you are guaranteed 2pts minimum per day lol
[14:03] <+rickf> wb
[14:04] <+szubaark> rick,everyone would be doing this heheh
[14:04] <+rickf>
[14:04] <+rickf> or that you have to paper-trade .... or do SOMETHING in exchange for that 2pt minimum
[14:05] <+rickf> would that the case
[14:06] <+rickf> BTW will not be around next week - heading to FL to deal with family stuff
[14:06] <+szubaark> good luck
[14:06] <+rickf> thx - not looking foward to it
[14:07] <+szubaark> yes, some of my biggest losing days were when i had personal/family issues...market will Exploit it
[14:08] <+szubaark> its also intresting how magazine articles,message boards,books, dont mention this stuff, they just talk Technical Analysis
[14:09] <+rickf> they also forget situational awareness
[14:09] <+rickf> market environment, emotions, etc
[14:09] <+rickf> time of day, etc
[14:10] <@NihabaAshi> Shorts ES @ 831.00 -> medium size
[14:10] <@NihabaAshi> 4 only
[14:10] <+rickf> short es 830
[14:11] <@NihabaAshi> Covered all ES Short @ 830.25 --> + 0.75
[14:12] <@NihabaAshi> trade entry was an error (thought i saw something that really wasn't there".
[14:12] <+rickf> i jumped the gun too
[14:12] <+rickf> exit 929.25 +.75
[14:13] <+rickf> gotta wait for things
[14:13] <+rickf> short es 829
[14:15] <+rickf> exit 828 +1.25
[14:16] <+szubaark> i knew this guy who only traded based on time of day (so 2pm he would only sell)..i found that intresting
[14:16] <+pat255> that was gutsy S rick
[14:16] <+rickf> that was me last summer
[14:16] <+rickf> oat - thought we had a trend change there
[14:16] <+rickf> still think it'll roll lower soon
[14:17] <+drt> l ym 38
[14:20] <+rickf> short es 830
[14:20] <+rickf> actually 829.75
[14:22] <+drt> cl ym 48
[14:22] <+rickf> out 930 -.25
[14:23] <+rickf>
[14:23] <+szubaark>
[14:25] <+werner> back
[14:31] <+werner> Shorts NQ @ 1184.00
[14:31] <+werner> Covered all NQ Short @ 1182.00 --> + 2
[14:32] <+rickf> short es 829
[14:33] <+werner> Shorts NQ @ 1183.00
[14:34] <+werner> Covered all NQ Short @ 1181.00 --> + 2
[14:34] <+rickf> out 827.75 +1,25
[14:35] * +rickf figures
[14:35] <+rickf> i'll take it
[14:36] <+werner> grr no fill 1180
[14:38] <+werner> intraday bc on nq here
[14:40] <+werner> wow
[14:41] <+szubaark> getting whippy out there
[14:42] <+werner> yep
[14:42] <+rickf> i'm thinking of quitting for the day/week while i'm up
[14:42] <+szubaark> yup,easy to give all days Profits in this chop
[14:46] <@NihabaAshi> Shorts ES @ 828.00 -> medium size
[14:46] <@NihabaAshi> 5 only
[14:47] <@NihabaAshi> Covered all ES Short @ 829.00 --> - 1
[14:48] <@NihabaAshi> Long ES @ 830.00 -> medium size
[14:49] <@NihabaAshi> 5 only
[14:49] <@NihabaAshi> sneaky little booger
[14:49] <+drt> s ym 38
[14:50] <@NihabaAshi> Exited all ES Long @ 829.00 --> - 1
[14:51] <+drt> stp 36
[14:51] <+rickf> short es 828
[14:51] <@NihabaAshi> Shorts ES @ 828.00 -> medium size
[14:51] <@NihabaAshi> 5 only
[14:52] <+rickf> out 826 +2
[14:52] <+rickf> 2pt limit
[14:52] <+rickf> not being greedy
[14:52] <@NihabaAshi> I saw rising volatility.
[14:52] <+werner> Shorts NQ @ 1175.00
[14:52] <@NihabaAshi> Reason why I am aggressive the recent trades
[14:53] <+werner> Covered all NQ Short @ 1173.00 --> + 2
[14:53] <@NihabaAshi> Figure a good time to catch a big mover
[14:53] <@NihabaAshi> volatility still rising
[14:53] <+rickf> makes up for all the little movers
[14:54] <@NihabaAshi> stop tighten just in case this thing does a crazy retracement back up
[14:55] <+rickf> short es 823
[14:56] <@NihabaAshi> Covered ES Short @ 822.00 --> + 6
[14:56] <@NihabaAshi> Holding 2 contract remainders
[14:56] <+werner> vvn
[14:56] <+kosmipt> nice wrbtrader
[14:56] <+rickf> out 23 b/e
[14:57] <+rickf> wth
[14:57] <+rickf> wtg
[15:01] <+drt> cs ym 73
[15:02] <+werner> Shorts NQ @ 1175.50
[15:03] <+werner> Covered all NQ Short @ 1173.50 --> + 2
[15:06] <+rickf> ok guys i'm calling it quits for the day/week - profits reached, traded much better than yesterday, so time for happy hour to start
[15:06] <+rickf> have a good w/e, stay warm, and see you in a week or so
[15:06] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Archived trade posting chat logs have a new location. They are now stored @
viewforum.php?f=20[15:07] <@NihabaAshi> Covered Remainder ES Short @ 825.00 --> + 3
[15:07] <@NihabaAshi> volatility turned into a "pin ball machine"
[15:07] <+werner> good wk rickf
[15:07] <@NihabaAshi>
[15:08] <+werner> ow he is gone ..lol
[15:08] <+werner> to fast to post...lol
[15:09] <@NihabaAshi> Shorts ES @ 823.00 -> small size
[15:09] <@NihabaAshi> 2 only
[15:09] <@NihabaAshi> chaser
[15:11] <@NihabaAshi> Covered all ES Short @ 822.00 --> + 1
[15:16] <@NihabaAshi> Long ES @ 823.25 -> small size
[15:16] <@NihabaAshi> 2 only
[15:16] <@NihabaAshi> Will find out later if this is a trade error because I had a temporary stall in my data (missing some info)...
[15:17] <@NihabaAshi> Will need to close the program and reopen it when I complete this trade so that the missing info can be filled in.
[15:18] <@NihabaAshi> Exited all ES Long @ 824.00 --> + 0.75
[15:18] * NihabaAshi is now known as NihabaAshi_away
[15:31] <+werner> grr no fill 1172.50
[15:33] <+werner> Shorts NQ @ 1173.00
[15:34] <+werner> Covered all NQ Short @ 1171.00 --> + 2
[15:35] <+kosmipt> wern what's your average stop on NQ?
[15:35] <+werner> 8 ticks
[15:36] <+werner> sorry 16
[15:36] <+werner> hard stop
[15:37] <+werner> so 4 points nq
[15:47] <+werner> it cost me 6 years to make a littel profit...pfff i think i am now 12000 hours learning to read the market
[15:51] * NihabaAshi_away is now known as NihabaAshi
[15:53] <@NihabaAshi> Long ES @ 830.50 -> small size
[15:53] <@NihabaAshi> intuition
[15:53] <@NihabaAshi> If I'm wrong...a position reversal should yield good profit
[15:54] <+werner> Long NQ @ 1177.25
[15:54] <@NihabaAshi> 2 only
[15:57] <+werner> Exited all NQ Long @ 1178.25 --> + 1
[15:57] <@NihabaAshi> Exited all ES Long @ 831.00 --> + 0.5
[15:58] <@NihabaAshi> Shorts ES @ 830.50 -> small size
[15:58] <@NihabaAshi> 3 only
[16:01] <+werner> done here
[16:02] <@NihabaAshi> Covered all ES Short @ 826.00 --> + 4.5
[16:03] <+werner> wow nice
[16:03] <@NihabaAshi> exited early so that I can encourage my 6 year old to make a birthday card for one of his friends.
[16:04] <@NihabaAshi> Take care all and have a good weekend...I'm done
[16:04] <+werner> you too
[16:04] <@NihabaAshi> thnx
[16:04] * NihabaAshi is now known as NihabaAshi_away
[16:05] <+werner> good wk all
