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 Post subject: August 1st Wednesday - Futures, Stocks, ETFs and Forex
 Post Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 9:05 pm 
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Session Start: Wed Aug 01 09:18:17 2012
Session Ident: #TheStrategyLab
[09:18:17] * Now talking in #TheStrategyLab
[09:18:17] * Topic is ' WRB Analysis Traders using WRB Analysis - WRBs, WRB Hidden GAPs, WRB Zones, FVB Basic Trade Signal Strategy @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/tsl/forum
[09:18:17] * Set by X on Fri Jul 27 01:34:04
[09:27:06] <+Trendtrader> gm all
[09:29:17] <@wrbtrader> Good morning all
[09:29:56] <@wrbtrader> Today is the first day of trading in August...
[09:30:13] <@wrbtrader> Wish all the best for the month of August trading.
[09:31:07] <+Trendtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 788
[09:31:08] <+Trendtrader> x10
[09:33:01] <+Trendtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 789.4 --> - 1.4
[09:34:22] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 787.00 -> large size
[09:34:29] <@wrbtrader> 6 contracts
[09:35:06] <@wrbtrader> 8 tick chase and didn't realize it @ entry :(
[09:35:28] <@wrbtrader> enough volatility to keep it from a loss
[09:35:43] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 786.50 --> + 0.5
[09:36:02] <Tigerman> Shorts iShares IWM @ 78.70
[09:36:18] <@wrbtrader> Had to keep a tight trail after realizing the chase...that took away my wiggle room to stay in the trade
[09:36:54] <+Tigerman> Covered all iShares IWM Short @ 78.68 --> + 0.02
[09:37:10] <+Tigerman> gm all
[09:37:57] <+Tigerman> I m still using few charts no had time to configure my system also have to re-open some account
[09:38:24] <@wrbtrader> Tigerman...Did you find out what happen to your account yesterday ?
[09:39:02] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 785.80 -> large size
[09:39:14] <@wrbtrader> 6 contracts
[09:39:21] <@wrbtrader> re-entry
[09:39:31] <+Tigerman> yes was closed because not enought found
[09:39:41] <@wrbtrader> ???
[09:40:10] <+Tigerman> they do not send any message at all !!
[09:40:32] <@wrbtrader> "not enought found" ???
[09:40:44] <@wrbtrader> WRB pt1 reached
[09:41:05] <+Tigerman> simply ToS have some minimum for margin account I suspected that but with many things to care I delayed my money transfer
[09:41:47] <+Tigerman> they tell me sorry by phone they apologize and counsel to re-open the account
[09:42:46] <@wrbtrader> You were holding overnight positions ?
[09:42:59] <+Tigerman> no
[09:43:29] <+Tigerman> what was bad was they close account without notice
[09:44:19] <@wrbtrader> I'm curious what they would have done with the "remainder" of your money after they closed your account "without notice".
[09:44:30] <@wrbtrader> Would they have sent you a check via the mail ???
[09:44:40] <+Tigerman> Also was hard to speak with representative at phone...very polite no problem but I uswed to english by oxford and americans eat the words a lot x my taste :)
[09:44:45] <+Tigerman> hard to understand
[09:45:24] <@wrbtrader> Tomorrow's EuroZone info is a big weight on the market so far out of the gate.
[09:45:56] <+Tigerman> yep waht do you expect by eurozone ??
[09:46:05] <@wrbtrader> I'm expecting some fireworks tomorrow...hopefully all of it doesn't occur before the 0930am est regular session opening
[09:46:14] <+Tigerman> I mean the outcome for euro problem ?
[09:46:40] <@wrbtrader> Covered 1/2 Emini TF Short @ 783.70 --> + 2.1
[09:47:25] <@wrbtrader> Yes...there's been a TON of hype about tomorrows Euro problem solution/resolution or whatever it is they're calling it.
[09:47:36] <+Tigerman> Shorts iShares IWM @ 78.44
[09:48:03] <+Tigerman> you right calling by words but weak by facts
[09:48:33] <+Tigerman> simply euro union is weak as is concepted now
[09:48:37] <@wrbtrader> Emini TF trying hard to fill its regular session GAP
[09:48:53] <@wrbtrader> 783.10 would be the fill
[09:49:17] <+Tigerman> I need a down spike before that
[09:49:41] <@wrbtrader> Creeper Down Movement still active
[09:51:05] <+Tigerman> Covered all iShares IWM Short @ 78.44 --> 0
[09:51:11] <@wrbtrader> Key Market Events Today @ 1000am, 1030am and of course the 1415pm est FOMC Announcement
[09:51:23] <+Tigerman> ùlost patience price stall and not going down
[09:51:57] <+Tigerman> Nooo they did now :(
[09:52:21] <+Tigerman> of course they wait for my exit before continue down :)
[09:52:42] <@wrbtrader> I had several of those types last week :(
[09:52:50] <@wrbtrader> very discouraging
[09:53:12] <+Tigerman> yep fast spike and retrace again
[09:53:41] <+Tigerman> wrbtrader what do you think about Euro zone situation?
[09:53:54] <+Tigerman> did you speak with some istitutional frends ?
[09:54:13] <+Tigerman> I mean are some danger of euro break-up?
[09:54:45] <@wrbtrader> They're worried but more about the impact on their "personal lives" in comparison to "professional life"
[09:55:56] <+Tigerman> yep same my concern more worry about personal life and saving
[09:56:29] <+Tigerman> do you mean istitutional resident in EU or also US canada ?
[09:57:22] <@wrbtrader> Institutional trader in Europe...citizen of France. He's been scared for about 2 years now.
[09:57:29] <@wrbtrader> Been trying to save as much money as possible
[09:59:04] <@wrbtrader> pending 1000am est KME
[09:59:07] <+Tigerman> yep the problem is where to save the hard gain money ??
[09:59:28] <+Tigerman> I mean in case euro-break that is a big problem
[09:59:48] <@wrbtrader> He's been taking "hard delivery" of Gold...putting it in a safe deposit at his bank
[10:01:45] <+Tigerman> wow a return to the nice old and precious gold
[10:02:21] <+Tigerman> physical gold have the problem of high spread on buy
[10:02:23] <@wrbtrader> Collectibles paintings and other art works too
[10:02:48] <+Tigerman> so need a very onest seller
[10:03:22] <+Tigerman> also one have to be sure is gold and not 50 % gold mixed with others thing..
[10:03:38] <@wrbtrader> That stuff (art) APPRECIATES enourmously during tough economic times, recessions, fear, global problems and so on.
[10:04:04] <@wrbtrader> Great investment if you have a good/safe place to store it
[10:04:06] <+Tigerman> a working people have to be currency in bank x everyday payment and so on..
[10:05:05] <+Tigerman> Simply I wonder if is better to switch Euro currency in USD $ or £UK pounds
[10:05:45] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 784.80 --> + 1
[10:05:53] <+Tigerman> also remain the issue if better store that on some bank vs others country bank
[10:06:15] <+Tigerman> I mean spain and greeeke bank scred me
[10:06:26] <+Tigerman> also Italy is in question
[10:06:37] <+Tigerman> A big issue x eu resident
[10:07:16] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 784.80 -> medium size
[10:07:21] <@wrbtrader> 4 contracts
[10:07:24] <@wrbtrader> re-entry
[10:07:34] <@wrbtrader> into the abyss of the chop
[10:08:35] <+Tigerman> yep choppy also Dia not fill the gap
[10:11:00] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 784.40 --> + 0.4
[10:11:08] <@wrbtrader> too much chop
[10:11:18] <@wrbtrader> try to hold that but couldn't
[10:13:58] <@wrbtrader> :(
[10:16:00] <@wrbtrader> Creeper Down Movement still active
[10:22:09] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 781.90 -> small size
[10:22:24] <@wrbtrader> trade error
[10:22:40] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 782.10 --> - 0.2
[10:22:51] <@wrbtrader> 2 contracts
[10:23:43] <@wrbtrader> Creeper Down Movement still active
[10:25:56] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 782.30 -> medium size
[10:26:03] <@wrbtrader> 4 contracts
[10:26:05] <@wrbtrader> re-entry
[10:27:52] <+Tigerman> Shorts iShares IWM @ 78.27
[10:32:44] <+Tigerman> I start losing patience..
[10:33:15] <+Tigerman> price contracting at high of volatility
[10:33:45] <@wrbtrader> Keep it in context as in "market context" of the news events today and tomorrow.
[10:34:00] <+Tigerman> Ym and Vxx moved in my favor but iwn not
[10:34:20] <@wrbtrader> These are NOT boring trading days that requires patience because the volatility will show up...just don't know exactly when
[10:35:14] <@wrbtrader> Other days that do NOT contain these types of KMEs...that's when I do't have patience and any kind of a loss usually bothers me.
[10:35:18] <+Tigerman> yep thanks to remaind I fera volatility show up after I exited :)
[10:35:40] <+Tigerman> fera =fear
[10:35:59] <@wrbtrader> support now developing
[10:36:20] <@wrbtrader> long lower shadows showing up
[10:37:07] <@wrbtrader> still at the lower area of the WRB Hiddeng GAP @ 1012am - 1014am est
[10:37:21] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 783.30 --> - 1
[10:37:38] <@wrbtrader> WRB Hidden GAP mid-point being tested
[10:37:50] <+Tigerman> Covered all iShares IWM Short @ 78,34 --> + 78.27 - 78,34
[10:38:07] <+Tigerman> Covered all iShares IWM Short @ 78.34 --> - 0.07
[10:38:35] <@wrbtrader> 784.50 is the Open of the WRB Hidden GAP
[10:39:38] <@wrbtrader> If price action doesn't get above it...we could easily go into "volatility contraction" until the mid-day trading session starts
[10:45:38] <@X> #TheStrategyLab -> Chat room for traders that are using concepts from WRB Analysis to help improve their entry signals, initial stop/loss management, profitable trail stops or profit targets. WRB Analysis free study guide @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/tsl/forum ... =119&t=718
[10:46:45] <@wrbtrader> another long lower shadow
[10:48:32] <+Tigerman> Long iShares IWM @ 78.38
[10:49:24] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 783.00 -> medium size
[10:49:31] <@wrbtrader> 2+2
[10:49:35] <@wrbtrader> Creeper Up Movement
[10:49:58] <@wrbtrader> but only in two of the Russell Indices
[10:50:15] <@wrbtrader> others not insync making this a riskier trade
[10:50:26] <+Tigerman> seems to me Ym is better as creeper I mean more clear up move
[10:50:31] <Fleneer> no trading today. sat down to computer issues. still resolving them.
[10:51:35] <+Tigerman> Exited all iShares IWM Long @ 78.42 --> + 0.04
[10:51:47] <@wrbtrader> Yeah...Emini YM futures holding up also in a Creeper Up Movement
[10:52:23] <+Fleneer> surprising amount of volatility this morning with Fedspeak at 2:15 I expected flat charts until then
[10:52:37] <+Tigerman> also a lot of upper and lower shadow in both iwm dia
[10:53:03] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 783.30 --> + 0.3
[10:53:24] <+Fleneer> NQ presently up about 5 was up about 20 at the open
[10:53:36] <@wrbtrader> It's all about Eurozone today and tomorrow...the FED is probably taking passenger seat today.
[10:54:48] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 783.70 -> medium size
[10:54:54] <@wrbtrader> 3+1
[10:54:57] <@wrbtrader> re-entry
[10:56:37] <@wrbtrader> still stuck inside the range of that earlier mentioned WRB Hidden GAP
[10:57:19] <@wrbtrader> It will be a key price area AFTER the FOMC Announcement
[11:06:02] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 782.60 --> - 1.1
[11:07:58] <@wrbtrader> re-test of that big long lower shadow
[11:08:26] <@wrbtrader> and the S area of that earlier mentioned WRB Hidden GAP
[11:10:34] <@wrbtrader> Eurex BUND still in a Creeper Down Movement
[11:13:56] <@wrbtrader> still no entry on the re-establish Creeper Down Movement
[11:16:29] <@wrbtrader> price action now trying to get insync
[11:17:53] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 780.00 -> large size
[11:18:58] <@wrbtrader> trailing tight...trying to pick pocket me
[11:19:57] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 780.50 --> - 0.5
[11:21:20] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 780.40 -> large size
[11:21:29] <@wrbtrader> re-entry
[11:21:35] <@wrbtrader> trailing tight again
[11:23:26] <+Tigerman> Shorts iShares IWM @ 78.08
[11:23:56] <@wrbtrader> volatility contraction getting choppy now :(
[11:24:41] <@wrbtrader> spread suddenly widen and went back to normal
[11:24:54] <@wrbtrader> I'm now expecting a volatility spike here soon
[11:24:58] <@wrbtrader> tightening trail
[11:26:37] <+Tigerman> Covered all iShares IWM Short @ 78.04 --> + 0.04
[11:27:03] <+Tigerman> I get profit and do not think twice :)
[11:27:24] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 780.20 --> + 0.2
[11:27:33] <@wrbtrader> still chopping around
[11:28:44] <@wrbtrader> That may be all she wrote on the volatility until the FOMC Announcement
[11:29:21] <@wrbtrader> A lot of volatility contraction (too much) since the big WRB Hidden GAP @ 1012am - 1014am est
[11:32:40] <+Tigerman> I exit rake care all see next time
[11:32:55] <+Tigerman> take care I mean :)
[12:30:38] <@X> #TheStrategyLab -> Chat room for traders that are using concepts from WRB Analysis to help improve their entry signals, initial stop/loss management, profitable trail stops or profit targets. WRB Analysis free study guide @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/tsl/forum ... =119&t=718
[14:00:39] <@X> #TheStrategyLab -> Chat room for traders that are using concepts from WRB Analysis to help improve their entry signals, initial stop/loss management, profitable trail stops or profit targets. WRB Analysis free study guide @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/tsl/forum ... =119&t=718
[15:38:19] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 777.30 -> small size
[15:38:27] <@wrbtrader> 1 contract
[15:39:07] <@wrbtrader> Covered Emini TF Short @ 777.00 --> + 0.3
[15:39:16] <@wrbtrader> early exit...chart problems
[15:39:33] <@wrbtrader> been unable to trade the afternoon because of the problems
[15:45:39] <@X> #TheStrategyLab -> Chat room for traders that are using concepts from WRB Analysis to help improve their entry signals, initial stop/loss management, profitable trail stops or profit targets. WRB Analysis free study guide @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/tsl/forum ... =119&t=718
[15:48:30] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 774.70 -> medium size
[15:48:37] <@wrbtrader> 4 contracts
[15:48:54] <@wrbtrader> got a little window here of charts working...trying to trade again
[15:49:13] <@wrbtrader> Creeper Down Movement still active
[15:50:01] <@wrbtrader> WRB pt1 reached
[15:50:54] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 772.60 --> + 2.1
[15:52:33] <@wrbtrader> Actual trade signal @ 775.90 via the 2min chart in reaction to earlier WRB Hidden GAP @ 1536pm - 1538pm est (Advance Decline Lines)
[15:55:44] <@wrbtrader> Creeper Down Movement still active
[15:55:56] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 772.20 -> small size
[15:56:06] <@wrbtrader> 3 contracts
[15:57:49] <@wrbtrader> WRB pt1 reached
[15:59:50] <@wrbtrader> tighten trail @ profit
[16:01:18] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 769.00 --> + 3.2
[16:03:08] <@wrbtrader> charts and broker quotes now a 1 point different :(
[16:03:49] <@wrbtrader> gutsy call to return to trading after the problems
[16:04:41] <@wrbtrader> Take care all and a great way to start August trading session with the "Increasing Volatility"
[16:05:16] <@wrbtrader> will do a reboot here soon to see if it fixes the chart problems
Session Close: Wed Aug 01 16:55:44 2012

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The purpose of #TheStrategyLab is that it's designed to be a trade journal for documentation purposes only so that members can have a time stamp archive of trades and market commentaries of each trading day so that they can better understand their broker statements from one trade to the next trade when they review their performance numbers on any given trading day.

Further, members are not obligated to educate nor help other members but members are encourage to ask questions about any trades or market commentaries that's posted by others because sometimes the answers contains useful trading tips.

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Image Treasury Futures T-Notes ZT, ZN, ZF and T-Bonds ZB

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Image COMEX Metal Futures Gold GC, mini-Gold YG, Copper HG and Silver SI

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Also, to prevent the usual mix-up about our different chat rooms, most of our fee-base clients do not use chat rooms just like most retail traders do not use chat rooms. Yet, the few clients that do use chat rooms, our fee-base clients are discussing market analysis or price action only trade signals via concepts from our strategies in the private chat rooms called #VolatilityTradingTSL or #SwingTradingTSL and they're not allowed to do such in #FuturesTrades.

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