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 Post subject: December 21st Wednesday - Futures, ETFs and Forex Currencies
 Post Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 5:10 am 
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#FuturesTrades is free along with being a serious professional trading chat room and any trader can use the chat room to post their trades or commentaries involving futures, exchange traded funds or forex currencies. Further, although our chat room is smaller than the other popular chat rooms...we are the most active chat room in posting trades or market commentaries involving futures, exchange traded funds or forex currencies in comparison to other free chat rooms.

#FuturesTrades is designed to be a trade journal for documentation purposes only so that members can have a real time stamp archive of trades and market commentaries of each trading day so that they can better understand their broker statements from one trade to the next trade when they review their performance numbers on any given trading day.

In addition, we welcome all traders with their own methods or different perspective of the markets to help keep the chat room diversified...posting trades or market commentaries. Also, if you're looking for real-time education in the chat room involving price action only trading (profitably trading without indicators)...you need to contact us to schedule price action only trading real-time discussions. We'll then have one on one (private) real-time price action only trading discussions with you while you're using #FuturesTrades real-time chat room to prevent distractions in the chat room with other members that are using different trading methods in comparison to us. However, you must first download and learn our free study guide at a different forum @ TSL Support Forum * http://www.thestrategylab.com/tsl/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=180

With that said, thanks for reading the trades or market commentaries that's below and we highly recommend you make reading of the logs a part of your trading routine because you will sometimes find useful trade information not discussed anywhere else online nor in any books if you're not interested in scheduling one on one (private) real-time price action only trading education discussions. To gain access to #FuturesTrades chat room...please follow the instructions @ FTCHAT Support Forum * http://www.thestrategylab.com/ftchat/forum/viewforum.php?f=5

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Session Start: Wed Dec 21 07:15:00 2011
Session Ident: #FuturesTrades
[07:15:00] * Now talking in #FuturesTrades
[07:15:00] <@X> [NihabaAshi] chat room archives @ viewforum.php?f=20
[07:21:11] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[08:51:11] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[09:28:25] <@wrbtrader> Once again...so far the best trading conditions have occurred PRIOR to 0930am est...when I'm not home :(
[09:28:45] <Tigerman> GM all
[09:29:15] <+Trendtrader> gm all
[09:29:24] <@wrbtrader> Very nice looking strong directional and trend continuation price action between 0528am - 0826am est
[09:29:25] <+Tigerman> hi trend
[09:29:38] <+Trendtrader> hi tiger
[09:30:39] <+Tigerman> yes agreed overnight US section sometimes have this strong directional move
[09:31:10] <@wrbtrader> In reference to the Emini futures, Eurex futures, Euronext futures, Oil futures, Gold futures and EuroFX 6E futures
[09:31:29] <+Trendtrader> Long Emini TF @ 732.6 «« simulator »»
[09:31:52] <@wrbtrader> Hopefully, there's some juice left for us "regular session traders" :)
[09:33:33] <+Trendtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 731.3 --> - 1.3 «« simulator »»
[09:33:42] <wave1> gm all
[09:33:51] <+wave1> late a bit @office
[09:34:11] <+Trendtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 731.1 «« simulator »»
[09:34:34] <+Trendtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 729 --> + 2.1 «« simulator »»
[09:35:01] <+Tigerman> Shorts TF @ 729.4 «« simulator »»
[09:35:25] <+Tigerman> fast action late entry
[09:35:55] <+Trendtrader> I had early exit
[09:36:07] <+Tigerman> Covered 1/2 TF Short @ 727.6 --> + 1.8 «« simulator »»
[09:39:35] <+Tigerman> TF no have coperation on this sell
[09:41:26] <+Tigerman> umh NQ lead the sell and TF doesn t follow :(
[09:41:52] <@wrbtrader> Emini ES and Emini NQ in a Creeper Down Movement price action
[09:42:20] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 728.40 -> medium size
[09:42:28] <@wrbtrader> 4 contracts
[09:42:30] <+Tigerman> Shorts TF @ 728.5 -> Add «« simulator »»
[09:42:37] <@wrbtrader> Creeper Down Movement
[09:44:17] <+Tigerman> TF seems the only e-mini try to resisr the sell..
[09:45:13] <+Tigerman> Covered 1/4 TF Short @ 728.1 --> + 0.4 «« simulator »»
[09:45:42] <@wrbtrader> Hopefully Emini TF will try to catch up to the others instead of encouraging them to stall and retrace back up
[09:46:01] <+Tigerman> Covered 1/4 TF Short @ 728.5 --> + 0.9 «« simulator »»
[09:46:07] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 729.40 --> - 1
[09:46:23] <+Tigerman> Covered Remainder TF Short @ 728.5 --> + 0.9 «« simulator »»
[09:47:20] <+Tigerman> all this work for less..
[09:47:51] <+Tigerman> I mean exited all @ first exit was a better choise..but in handsight
[09:48:12] <+Tigerman> logical I am happy with my choise
[09:50:29] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 728.80 -> medium size
[09:50:38] <@wrbtrader> 4 contracts
[09:52:26] <+Tigerman> Shorts TF @ 729 «« simulator »»
[09:53:01] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 729.20 --> - 0.4
[09:53:32] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 729.30 -> large size
[09:53:37] <@wrbtrader> 2+2+2
[09:53:43] <+Tigerman> Covered all TF Short @ 729.3 --> - 0.3 «« simulator »»
[09:55:07] <@wrbtrader> it's not going to fight for the upside :(
[09:55:29] <+wave1> nq drag it down
[09:55:33] <+wave1> nq v weak
[09:56:35] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 728.50 --> - 0.8
[09:56:52] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 728.20 -> large size
[09:56:56] <@wrbtrader> 4+2
[09:56:58] <+Tigerman> Shorts TF @ 728.2 «« simulator »»
[09:58:30] <@wrbtrader> 4 consecutive good trade entries...so far producing nothing for me :(
[09:59:04] <+Tigerman> Covered 1/2 TF Short @ 728.1 --> + 0.1 «« simulator »»
[10:00:04] <+wave1> v narrow range atm on es
[10:00:32] <@wrbtrader> WRB pt1 reached
[10:01:05] <+wave1> :)
[10:01:43] <@wrbtrader> need to ride this one to get profitable for the day
[10:02:19] <@wrbtrader> Covered 2/3 Emini TF Short @ 725.80 --> + 2.4
[10:02:34] <+Tigerman> Covered Remainder TF Short @ 726 --> + 2.2 «« simulator »»
[10:02:37] <@wrbtrader> Covered Remainder Emini TF Short @ 726.20 --> + 2
[10:03:55] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 727.60 -> medium size
[10:03:59] <@wrbtrader> 4 contracts
[10:05:56] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 728.00 --> + 0.4
[10:09:08] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 727.70 -> medium size
[10:09:13] <@wrbtrader> 4 contracts
[10:09:20] <@wrbtrader> re-entry
[10:10:11] <+Tigerman> Long TF @ 728.1 «« simulator »»
[10:11:00] <@wrbtrader> I think that big price drop in the early morning session before 0930am est has spooked the bulls a little this morning
[10:11:16] <@wrbtrader> keeping them very conservative so far
[10:12:14] <+Tigerman> Exited 1/2 TF Long @ 729.3 --> + 1.2 «« simulator »»
[10:13:13] <+Tigerman> Exited Remainder TF Long @ 730.8 --> + 2.7 «« simulator »»
[10:13:38] <@wrbtrader> WRB pt1 reached
[10:13:40] <+Tigerman> happy I got this spike
[10:14:39] <+wave1> s 31.25 es
[10:15:16] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 731.30 --> + 3.6
[10:15:44] <+wave1> wd N
[10:16:38] <+wave1> out tick
[10:16:42] <+wave1> not going down
[10:17:33] <@wrbtrader> Price action back to the open regular session price
[10:17:58] <+wave1> need pb to go L now
[10:18:11] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[10:19:04] <@wrbtrader> 50/50 % on the trades but my winners are bigger than the losers
[10:19:27] <+Tigerman> yes that makes a big difference
[10:19:29] <@wrbtrader> Thus, today could turn into a "trade management" day
[10:20:01] <+Tigerman> but I know is not easy to hang on a bit more so the winners are larger than losers
[10:20:20] <+Tigerman> I am inproving on that in last times
[10:21:10] <@wrbtrader> If I get a WRB pt1 with increasing volatility...I'll stay in the trade to see what happens but with a tight trail to lock in most of the profits if wrong about price continuation
[10:21:47] <+wave1> k
[10:22:05] <@wrbtrader> In contrast, if I start seeing price stall with declining volatility while @ WRB pt1...I tend to dump the trade and bank it
[10:22:07] <t4n> Long TF @ 731.5 -> small size «« simulator »»
[10:23:50] <+t4n> Exited TF Long @ 731.8 --> + 0.3 «« simulator »»
[10:26:32] <+Tigerman> Shorts TF @ 730.7 «« simulator »»
[10:27:05] <+Tigerman> Covered 1/2 TF Short @ 729.6 --> + 1.1 «« simulator »»
[10:27:29] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 729.40 -> small size
[10:27:40] <@wrbtrader> 2 contracts
[10:28:06] <@wrbtrader> :(
[10:28:10] <@wrbtrader> poor trade
[10:29:39] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 729.00 --> + 0.4
[10:29:52] <@wrbtrader> Houdini escape...lucky trade of the day
[10:30:22] <+Tigerman> Covered Remainder TF Short @ 729.3 --> + 1.4 «« simulator »»
[10:32:17] <+t4n> Long TF @ 730.1 -> medium size «« simulator »»
[10:33:52] <+t4n> Exited TF Long @ 730.5 --> + 0.4 «« simulator »»
[10:53:11] <+t4n> Shorts TF @ 727.6 -> small size «« simulator »»
[10:54:41] <+t4n> Covered TF Short @ 728.4 --> - 0.8 «« simulator »»
[10:55:18] <+t4n> Shorts TF @ 727.6 -> medium size «« simulator »»
[10:55:50] <+t4n> Covered TF Short @ 726.8 --> + 0.8 «« simulator »»
[10:58:10] <+t4n> held the first one too long for a poor entry
[11:21:41] <+t4n> Long TF @ 725.5 -> medium size «« simulator »»
[11:24:34] <+t4n> Exited TF Long @ 725.6 --> + 0.1 «« simulator »»
[11:27:37] <wave1> mkt dead
[11:27:54] <+t4n> yeah
[11:28:09] <+t4n> this is normaly where I start "trying" and losing money
[11:28:25] <+t4n> I'll take a break instead
[11:32:54] <@wrbtrader> EuroFX 6E futures or Forex EurUsd currency not doing much for the past 25 minutes
[11:48:12] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[12:14:44] <@wrbtrader> volatility contraction after the big spike down
[12:15:07] <@wrbtrader> Emini NQ still in Creeper Down Movement
[12:16:57] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 725.50 -> small size
[12:17:05] <@wrbtrader> 1 contract
[12:19:53] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 726.00 -> Add
[12:20:04] <@wrbtrader> 1 added
[12:20:19] <@wrbtrader> rarely do I add to a losing trade
[12:20:49] <@wrbtrader> unless it was "planned" prior to entry to add more contracts
[12:21:28] <+Tigerman> Shorts TF @ 725.8 «« simulator »»
[12:21:59] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 725.70 -> Add
[12:22:04] <@wrbtrader> 1 added
[12:23:03] <+Tigerman> Covered 1/2 TF Short @ 725.3 --> + 0.5 «« simulator »»
[12:23:50] <@wrbtrader> In the past I would use "scale ins" into a trade position when trading the "id-day low volatility price action" to help better manage my trades and "reduce" overtrading.
[12:24:11] <@wrbtrader> id-day = mid-day
[12:24:45] <@wrbtrader> WRB pt1 reached
[12:24:59] <@wrbtrader> Covered 1/3 Emini TF Short @ 742.30 --> - 16.6
[12:25:05] <@wrbtrader> ooops
[12:25:14] <@wrbtrader> correction
[12:25:27] <@wrbtrader> Covered 1/3 Emini TF Short @ 724.30 --> + 1.2
[12:26:49] <@wrbtrader> Covered 1/3 Emini TF Short @ 723.90 --> + 1.6
[12:27:38] <+Tigerman> Covered Remainder TF Short @ 723.8 --> + 2 «« simulator »»
[12:28:19] <@wrbtrader> Covered Remainder Emini TF Short @ 722.80 --> + 2.7
[12:28:24] <+Tigerman> woooh continue down without me...:(
[12:28:43] <+Tigerman> this is the kind of thing upset me
[12:29:22] <+Tigerman> anyway price start to retrace up so its ok for me
[12:30:00] <+t4n> i see i missed a goodone
[12:31:35] <@wrbtrader> trade results should have shown via the script as +1.4 then +2.1 and then +2.7 but the substraction was in error due to the initial scale out price I inputed incorrectly
[12:32:18] <@wrbtrader> Started the day with 3 consecutive losing trades but kepted the losers small.
[12:32:44] <@wrbtrader> Have now had 5 consective winners
[12:33:03] <@wrbtrader> Good time to take a relaxing lunch break
[12:33:07] <@wrbtrader> be back later
[12:33:40] <+Tigerman> good lunch
[12:54:45] <t4n> Shorts TF @ 726.2 -> medium size «« simulator »»
[12:56:27] <+t4n> Covered TF Short @ 727 --> - 0.8 «« simulator »»
[12:59:44] <+t4n> That's about right
[12:59:55] <+t4n> miss good trades and take a bad one
[13:12:12] <+t4n> Long TF @ 728.5 -> medium size «« simulator »»
[13:12:54] <+t4n> Exited TF Long @ 727.9 --> - 0.6 «« simulator »»
[13:18:12] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[13:19:34] <+t4n> Long TF @ 728.1 -> large size «« simulator »»
[13:22:28] <+t4n> Exited TF Long @ 727.5 --> - 0.6 «« simulator »»
[14:00:43] <+t4n> Shorts TF @ 730.9 -> medium size «« simulator »»
[14:01:06] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 730.80 -> small size
[14:01:13] <@wrbtrader> 2 contracts
[14:01:23] <@wrbtrader> Creeper Up Movement trade
[14:02:18] <+t4n> Covered TF Short @ 731.5 --> - 0.6 «« simulator »»
[14:02:31] <+t4n> I just started to feel comfortable
[14:02:59] <@wrbtrader> WRB pt1 reached
[14:03:46] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 732.30 --> + 1.5
[14:04:42] <+t4n> Long TF @ 732 -> large size «« simulator »»
[14:06:39] <+t4n> Exited TF Long @ 731.45 --> - 0.55 «« simulator »»
[14:06:46] <+t4n> Exited TF Long @ 731.5 --> - 0.5 «« simulator »»
[14:07:29] <+t4n> I'm so upset right now
[14:08:03] <+t4n> Took me all month to get profitable and I lose it easy
[14:14:34] <+t4n> Long TF @ 731 -> large size «« simulator »»
[14:17:07] <+t4n> Exited TF Long @ 730.9 --> - 0.1 «« simulator »»
[14:23:25] <+t4n> Long TF @ 730.8 -> medium size «« simulator »»
[14:25:45] <+t4n> Exited TF Long @ 731.2 --> + 0.4 «« simulator »»
[14:34:29] <+t4n> Shorts TF @ 730.4 -> large size «« simulator »»
[14:36:38] <+t4n> Covered TF Short @ 731.4 --> - 1 «« simulator »»
[14:45:13] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[15:30:14] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 735.50 -> small size
[15:30:24] <@wrbtrader> 2 contracts
[15:30:48] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 735.80 --> - 0.3
[15:31:01] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 736.20 -> medium size
[15:31:07] <@wrbtrader> 3 contracts
[15:31:17] <@wrbtrader> Creeper Up Movement trade
[15:31:52] <@wrbtrader> WRB pt1 reached
[15:32:57] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 737.50 --> + 1.3
[15:45:19] <@wrbtrader> 4pm est rush hour traffic around the corner
[15:55:37] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 735.90 -> small size
[15:55:49] <@wrbtrader> 3 contracts
[15:56:23] <+t4n> Long TF @ 736.1 -> medium size «« simulator »»
[15:57:45] <+t4n> Exited TF Long @ 736.2 --> + 0.1 «« simulator »»
[15:59:15] <@wrbtrader> trailing @ profit
[16:11:16] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 737.90 --> + 2
[16:15:37] <@wrbtrader> That was my longust duration trade of the day...
[16:16:02] <@wrbtrader> Only because I already had my profits for the day and decided it was a good time to be patient.
[17:42:14] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
Session Close: Wed Dec 21 19:19:33 2011

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Therefore, we welcome all traders with their own trade signal methods, different perspective of the markets and different experience levels. To gain access to #FuturesTrades...please follow the instructions at the below link.

http://www.thestrategylab.com/ftchat/forum/viewforum.php?f=5

The purpose of #FuturesTrades is that it's designed to be a trade journal for documentation purposes only so that members can have a time stamp archive of trades and market commentaries of each trading day so that they can better understand their broker statements from one trade to the next trade when they review their performance numbers on any given trading day.

Further, members are not obligated to educate nor help other members but members are encourage to ask questions about any trades or market commentaries that's posted by others because sometimes the answers contains useful trading tips.

In addition, our primary job in the free chat room is to moderate the room (keep the peace) because with so many members using different trade signal methods along with different opinions about the market...debates or arguments can easily flare up without moderating. In addition, our presence in the chat room is to ensure it's a spam free chat room during trading although these archived chat logs may contain advertisements for guest visitors.

Commonly discussed trading instruments from futures, exchange traded funds and forex currencies:

Image CME Emini Futures EMD, ES and NQ

Image ICE Emini TF Futures (formerly CME ER2)

Image CBOT mini-sized Dow Futures YM

Image Eurex Index Derivatives (futures) DAX and DJ Euro Stoxx50

Image Eurex Fixed Income Derivatives (futures) BUND, BOBL and Schatz

Image Euronext Futures FTSE-100 and CAC-40

Image CME Futures EuroFX 6E and EC

Image Treasury Futures T-Notes ZT, ZN, ZF and T-Bonds ZB

Image Forex Currencies GbpUsd, EurUsd, EurYen and UsdCad

Image Exchange Traded Funds VXX, DIA, IWM, QQQ, SPY, BGU, FAS, FAZ, TNA, OIH, XLE and GLD

Image NYMEX Energy Futures Light Crude Oil CL, Brent Crude Oil BRN, e-miNY QM and Natural Gas NG

Image COMEX Metal Futures Gold GC, mini-Gold YG, Copper HG and Silver SI

Image S&P CNX NIFTY Futures

Image Hang Seng Index Futures HSI and mini-Hang Seng MHI

Also, to prevent the usual mix-up about our different chat rooms, most of our fee-base clients do not use chat rooms just like most retail traders do not use chat rooms. Yet, the few clients that do use chat rooms, our fee-base clients are discussing market analysis or price action only trade signals via concepts from our strategies in the private chat rooms called #VolatilityTradingTSL or #SwingTradingTSL and they're not allowed to do such in #FuturesTrades.

Reminder, our Terms of Use (TOU) Policy is a must read to prevent any misunderstandings along with revealing that #FuturesTrades is a serious professional trading chat room and we expect members to act professional. Also, these logs may have been edited (rarely) to remove any messages that a member has complained to me via private message that they consider a particular commentary to be inappropriate, offending or too far in the off topic area that's a distraction when the commentary was posted.

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