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 Post subject: December 20th Tuesday - Futures, ETFs and Forex Currencies
 Post Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 11:30 pm 
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#FuturesTrades is free along with being a serious professional trading chat room and any trader can use the chat room to post their trades or commentaries involving futures, exchange traded funds or forex currencies. Further, although our chat room is smaller than the other popular chat rooms...we are the most active chat room in posting trades or market commentaries involving futures, exchange traded funds or forex currencies in comparison to other free chat rooms.

#FuturesTrades is designed to be a trade journal for documentation purposes only so that members can have a real time stamp archive of trades and market commentaries of each trading day so that they can better understand their broker statements from one trade to the next trade when they review their performance numbers on any given trading day.

In addition, we welcome all traders with their own methods or different perspective of the markets to help keep the chat room diversified...posting trades or market commentaries. Also, if you're looking for real-time education in the chat room involving price action only trading (profitably trading without indicators)...you need to contact us to schedule price action only trading real-time discussions. We'll then have one on one (private) real-time price action only trading discussions with you while you're using #FuturesTrades real-time chat room to prevent distractions in the chat room with other members that are using different trading methods in comparison to us. However, you must first download and learn our free study guide at a different forum @ TSL Support Forum * http://www.thestrategylab.com/tsl/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=180

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Session Start: Tue Dec 20 07:35:01 2011
Session Ident: #futurestrades
[07:35:01] * Now talking in #futurestrades
[07:35:01] <@X> [NihabaAshi] chat room archives @ viewforum.php?f=20
[09:03:06] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[09:25:08] <wave1> gm all
[09:25:22] <+Trendtrader> gm all
[09:26:10] <drt> gm
[09:26:36] <@wrbtrader> For those that don't get snow for christmas...
[09:26:49] <+wave1> gm N others
[09:27:16] <@wrbtrader> Go to Google @ http://www.google.com and type in Let It Snow :)
[09:28:18] <+wave1> ;)
[09:28:29] <+wave1> santa rally on?
[09:28:29] <@wrbtrader> You can even use use your mouse/pointer to clean the snow via dragging the pointer across the screen
[09:29:07] <@wrbtrader> wave1...its a nice up move so far in the price action
[09:29:42] <+wave1> y eur leading it
[09:32:08] <Tigerman> GM all
[09:32:53] <+wave1> dont stand in front of teh train
[09:35:15] <+Trendtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 721.5 «« simulator »»
[09:38:02] <+Trendtrader> Covered Emini TF Short @ 722.3 --> - 0.8 «« simulator »»
[09:38:02] <+Trendtrader> Reverse and Enter Long Emini TF @ 722.3 «« simulator »»
[09:38:31] <+Trendtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 723.4 --> + 1.1 «« simulator »»
[09:38:56] <+Trendtrader> not fast enough to extend target... :(
[09:39:01] <+Tigerman> Long TF @ 723.5 «« simulator »»
[09:39:04] <+Trendtrader> trade error
[09:39:20] <+wave1> vn tt
[09:39:44] <+Trendtrader> wrb, what days are you taking off over Christmas?
[09:40:50] <@wrbtrader> I start reducing my trading on Thursday
[09:41:58] <+wave1> good point N
[09:41:59] <+Tigerman> Exited 1/2 TF Long @ 724.4 --> + 0.9 «« simulator »»
[09:43:11] <+Tigerman> woh..
[09:43:55] <+Tigerman> Exited Remainder TF Long @ 725.3 --> + 1.8 «« simulator »»
[09:44:39] <+Trendtrader> nice tiger.
[09:45:24] <+Tigerman> thanks trend
[09:49:51] <+wave1> L 24.25 es paper
[09:50:30] <+Tigerman> let see if the up move continue
[09:52:15] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 723.30 -> medium size
[09:52:27] <@wrbtrader> 3+1
[09:52:30] <@wrbtrader> tight stop
[09:53:16] <+wave1> out 1 t
[09:55:00] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 722.90 --> + 0.4
[09:55:09] <+Tigerman> Long TF @ 722.9 «« simulator »»
[09:55:17] <+Tigerman> risky trade
[09:55:49] <+Tigerman> Exited 1/2 TF Long @ 723.2 --> + 0.3 «« simulator »»
[09:56:28] <+Tigerman> Exited Remainder TF Long @ 722.9 --> 0 «« simulator »»
[09:56:50] <+Tigerman> always forget to exit all at first exit in this small move
[09:59:16] <+Tigerman> Long TF @ 724.1 «« simulator »»
[09:59:20] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 742.30 -> medium size
[09:59:36] <@wrbtrader> 2+2
[10:00:54] <+Tigerman> Exited all TF Long @ 725 --> + 0.9 «« simulator »»
[10:01:04] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 724.40 --> - 17.9
[10:01:10] <+Tigerman> all position @ first exit now
[10:01:14] <@wrbtrader> oooops...
[10:01:16] <@wrbtrader> +0.1
[10:01:28] <@wrbtrader> Creeper Up Movement still intact
[10:01:43] <+Tigerman> profit target not reached but not lliked action
[10:02:36] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 724.90 -> medium size
[10:02:51] <@wrbtrader> chasing price action of prior trade
[10:03:05] <@wrbtrader> Unfortunately the price action has become more JUMPY
[10:03:23] <@wrbtrader> tough to stay in the trade on the Long side
[10:03:47] <+wave1> seems like a LH on ES
[10:05:43] <@wrbtrader> trailing @ profit a little early but I have no choice with the JUMPY price action
[10:06:24] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 725.10 --> + 0.2
[10:11:07] <+wave1> L 24.5 es
[10:11:29] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 724.80 -> small size
[10:11:44] <@wrbtrader> 2 contracts
[10:11:48] <@wrbtrader> want that one back
[10:12:51] <@wrbtrader> Exited Emini TF Long @ 725.10 --> + 0.3
[10:13:46] <@wrbtrader> trade error...lucky to get out of that one with a profit
[10:14:52] <+wave1> out +1
[10:23:13] <@wrbtrader> Big wall of resistance right now for Emini TF futures
[10:23:41] <+wave1> still L side is the play ..it seems
[10:25:19] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 726.00 -> small size
[10:25:26] <@wrbtrader> 3 contracts
[10:26:02] <@wrbtrader> Creeper Up Movement still intact
[10:28:20] <@wrbtrader> trailing @ profit
[10:28:38] <@wrbtrader> WRB pt1 reached
[10:28:56] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 728.50 --> + 2.5
[10:29:28] <+wave1> wd
[10:30:07] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[10:30:16] <@wrbtrader> chased it too by about 5 ticks
[10:31:11] <@wrbtrader> Best entry range for that trade was 725.50 to 725.80
[10:32:18] <+wave1> hesitant and missed es entry
[10:37:32] <t4n> Long TF @ 728.3 -> small size «« simulator »»
[10:39:42] <+t4n> Long TF @ 728.4 -> small size «« simulator »»
[10:42:05] <+t4n> Exited TF Long @ 728.9 --> + 0.5 «« simulator »»
[10:44:25] <+wave1> Q guys if the mkt move up so much wont the buyers below exit and collect profiys?
[10:45:22] <+t4n> yep, but who knows when that will be
[10:45:28] <+wave1> ptofits?
[10:46:57] <+wave1> i ask myself i will exit in a heart beat
[10:49:34] <+Tigerman> wave1 also remember that are many traders with many agenda,simply someone can exit later than this day expecially funds..
[10:51:06] <+wave1> y that is possible and big boys too
[10:54:42] <+Tigerman> yep
[11:02:24] <+t4n> Long TF @ 730.1 -> small size «« simulator »»
[11:04:22] <+t4n> Exited TF Long @ 730.2 --> + 0.1 «« simulator »»
[11:12:51] <+Tigerman> anyone have problem now with OIH ETF?
[11:13:28] <+Tigerman> my broker say is halted,from 1/2 hour
[11:13:59] <@wrbtrader> Yeah...me too
[11:14:22] <@wrbtrader> Creeper Movement still intact
[11:14:23] <+Tigerman> ok seems exchange related thanks
[11:49:53] <@wrbtrader> geesh...big volatility spike
[11:50:47] <+t4n> jeez retrace
[11:51:04] <@wrbtrader> Some strange price action right now.
[11:52:12] <+t4n> my AD and OIH are unusable
[11:52:32] <+Tigerman> yes OIH is KO
[11:53:03] <+Tigerman> any breaking news x those unusual spike before?
[11:54:39] <+Tigerman> or some fat finger??
[11:54:44] <@wrbtrader> I don't see anything unusual in the news other than CNBC showing "European Closing Bell"
[11:54:54] <@wrbtrader> Nothing so far on Bloomberg too
[11:55:11] <@wrbtrader> checking now market tweets on twitter
[11:57:19] <+Tigerman> curiously the most volume was on the retracing dark spike
[12:00:07] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[12:06:29] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 730.50 -> small size
[12:06:40] <@wrbtrader> 2 contracts
[12:07:35] <@wrbtrader> Exited Emini TF Long @ 730.00 --> - 0.5
[12:12:23] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 730.50 -> small size
[12:12:30] <@wrbtrader> re-entry
[12:12:44] <@wrbtrader> into the Creeper Up Movement
[12:13:05] <@wrbtrader> 2 contracts
[12:13:51] <+t4n> Long TF @ 730.3 -> medium size «« simulator »»
[12:14:21] <+Tigerman> Long TF @ 730.1 «« simulator »»
[12:14:45] <+Tigerman> risky trde but not many oportunity so far
[12:15:09] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 730.20 --> - 0.3
[12:15:50] <+Tigerman> Exited 1/2 TF Long @ 730.3 --> + 0.2 «« simulator »»
[12:15:51] <@wrbtrader> Yeah...I'm keeping it tight...maybe too tight
[12:16:43] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 730.50 -> small size
[12:16:44] <+Tigerman> yes but if not tight the risk a fast shake out is worst
[12:16:53] <@wrbtrader> 2 contracts
[12:17:09] <@wrbtrader> re-entry into the same price action
[12:17:15] <+Tigerman> move now..
[12:17:32] <+t4n> Exited TF Long @ 731 --> + 0.7 «« simulator »»
[12:18:45] <+Tigerman> Exited Remainder TF Long @ 730.9 --> + 0.8 «« simulator »»
[12:19:49] <+t4n> break time
[12:26:10] <@wrbtrader> Getting nowhere in this volatility contraction right now...
[12:26:34] <@wrbtrader> Good time to take a lunch break
[12:29:17] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 730.50 --> 0
[12:29:32] * wrbtrader is now known as wrbtrader_away
[13:10:36] <+t4n> Long TF @ 731.1 -> small size «« simulator »»
[13:13:45] <+t4n> Exited TF Long @ 730.8 --> - 0.3 «« simulator »»
[13:27:08] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[14:57:08] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[15:07:13] * wrbtrader_away is now known as wrbtrader
[15:38:51] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 733.50 -> small size
[15:38:59] <@wrbtrader> 2 contracts
[15:39:02] <@wrbtrader> intuition
[15:42:13] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 734.80 --> + 1.3
[15:42:32] <@wrbtrader> WRB pt1 reached (I think)
[15:43:13] <+t4n> nice one
[15:48:45] <+t4n> Shorts TF @ 734 -> small size «« simulator »»
[15:48:50] <+t4n> hmm
[15:49:29] <+t4n> Covered TF Short @ 733.7 --> + 0.3 «« simulator »»
[15:56:53] <+t4n> Long TF @ 734.1 -> small size «« simulator »»
[15:58:20] <+t4n> Exited TF Long @ 733.5 --> - 0.6 «« simulator »»
[15:59:21] <+t4n> Long TF @ 733.9 -> small size «« simulator »»
[16:01:08] <+t4n> Exited TF Long @ 734.9 --> + 1 «« simulator »»
[16:16:04] <@wrbtrader> Not a pretty price action today...most of the better trade signals occurred prior to 0930am est when the Creeper Up Movement begin.
[16:16:51] <+t4n> did you trade anything prior to 0930?
[16:17:36] <@wrbtrader> No...I was stuck in traffic
[16:18:07] <@wrbtrader> Snow plows didn't do a good job on the highway...traffic going too slow :(
[16:18:14] <+t4n> Just curious, how long are you awake before you begin trading?
[16:19:19] <@wrbtrader> Usually up around 7am est...out the door with the kids around 8am est
[16:20:08] <+t4n> I'm still waking up when I log in
[16:20:33] <+t4n> I wont do this in the future
[16:20:42] <+t4n> It is what it is for now
[16:21:24] <@wrbtrader> Chat room has been around for about 12 years...
[16:21:54] <@wrbtrader> I use to aggressively trade between 0830am - 0930am est when I didn't have kids back then (was still single).
[16:22:09] <@wrbtrader> Most of the time I reached my daily profit goal before 0930am est
[16:22:34] <+t4n> so you were done before the markets even opened
[16:22:49] <+Tigerman> woh is a thing I have to spoil
[16:23:06] <@wrbtrader> Yeah...I was done before the regular trading session started...
[16:23:16] <+Tigerman> beacuse no problem from me awake in the hour
[16:23:19] <@wrbtrader> Did all my trading in a one hour duration "most of the time".
[16:23:35] <+Tigerman> nice
[16:24:00] <+t4n> there are only Emini's open at that time, no OIH, AD, VXX all that stuff
[16:24:17] <@wrbtrader> Eurex and Euronext are opened at the that time.
[16:24:29] <+t4n> yeah
[16:25:42] <+t4n> Well, i survived another day
[16:25:47] <+t4n> only -5 in the hole
[16:25:55] <+Tigerman> yep big vola on eurex but very scary to trade the DAX
[16:26:47] <@wrbtrader> Ok...take care all and see all tomorrow.
[16:26:54] <+t4n> seeya
[16:26:55] * wrbtrader is now known as wrbtrader_away
[16:27:09] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[16:27:24] <+Tigerman> I exit see all tomorrow
Session Close: Tue Dec 20 22:52:59 2011

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#FuturesTrades is free and is a serious professional trading chat room in which any trader can use the chat room to post their trades or commentaries involving futures, exchange traded funds or forex currencies. Simply, you don't need to be a client of TheStrategyLab.com to use the chat room nor do you need to be a price action only trader (no indicators) because some members use indicators while others do not.

Therefore, we welcome all traders with their own trade signal methods, different perspective of the markets and different experience levels. To gain access to #FuturesTrades...please follow the instructions at the below link.

http://www.thestrategylab.com/ftchat/forum/viewforum.php?f=5

The purpose of #FuturesTrades is that it's designed to be a trade journal for documentation purposes only so that members can have a time stamp archive of trades and market commentaries of each trading day so that they can better understand their broker statements from one trade to the next trade when they review their performance numbers on any given trading day.

Further, members are not obligated to educate nor help other members but members are encourage to ask questions about any trades or market commentaries that's posted by others because sometimes the answers contains useful trading tips.

In addition, our primary job in the free chat room is to moderate the room (keep the peace) because with so many members using different trade signal methods along with different opinions about the market...debates or arguments can easily flare up without moderating. In addition, our presence in the chat room is to ensure it's a spam free chat room during trading although these archived chat logs may contain advertisements for guest visitors.

Commonly discussed trading instruments from futures, exchange traded funds and forex currencies:

Image CME Emini Futures EMD, ES and NQ

Image ICE Emini TF Futures (formerly CME ER2)

Image CBOT mini-sized Dow Futures YM

Image Eurex Index Derivatives (futures) DAX and DJ Euro Stoxx50

Image Eurex Fixed Income Derivatives (futures) BUND, BOBL and Schatz

Image Euronext Futures FTSE-100 and CAC-40

Image CME Futures EuroFX 6E and EC

Image Treasury Futures T-Notes ZT, ZN, ZF and T-Bonds ZB

Image Forex Currencies GbpUsd, EurUsd, EurYen and UsdCad

Image Exchange Traded Funds VXX, DIA, IWM, QQQ, SPY, BGU, FAS, FAZ, TNA, OIH, XLE and GLD

Image NYMEX Energy Futures Light Crude Oil CL, Brent Crude Oil BRN, e-miNY QM and Natural Gas NG

Image COMEX Metal Futures Gold GC, mini-Gold YG, Copper HG and Silver SI

Image S&P CNX NIFTY Futures

Image Hang Seng Index Futures HSI and mini-Hang Seng MHI

Also, to prevent the usual mix-up about our different chat rooms, most of our fee-base clients do not use chat rooms just like most retail traders do not use chat rooms. Yet, the few clients that do use chat rooms, our fee-base clients are discussing market analysis or price action only trade signals via concepts from our strategies in the private chat rooms called #VolatilityTradingTSL or #SwingTradingTSL and they're not allowed to do such in #FuturesTrades.

Reminder, our Terms of Use (TOU) Policy is a must read to prevent any misunderstandings along with revealing that #FuturesTrades is a serious professional trading chat room and we expect members to act professional. Also, these logs may have been edited (rarely) to remove any messages that a member has complained to me via private message that they consider a particular commentary to be inappropriate, offending or too far in the off topic area that's a distraction when the commentary was posted.

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