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 Post subject: December 19th Monday - Futures, ETFs and Forex Currencies
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Session Start: Mon Dec 19 07:27:01 2011
Session Ident: #futurestrades
[07:27:01] * Now talking in #futurestrades
[07:27:01] <@X> [NihabaAshi] chat room archives @ viewforum.php?f=20
[07:51:03] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[09:21:03] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[09:25:17] <wave1> gm all
[09:27:02] <Trendtrader> gm all
[09:29:49] <drt> gm
[09:31:49] <+Trendtrader> Long Emini TF @ 725.2 «« simulator »»
[09:32:35] <+wave1> y L side is the play
[09:33:10] <+wave1> TF stronger than NQ
[09:33:25] <+Trendtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 726.7 --> + 1.5 «« simulator »»
[09:45:27] <+wave1> tight range
[09:46:27] <+wave1> es hardly moving
[09:51:57] <+wave1> S nq 38 geez late entry
[09:52:50] <+wave1> out =2t
[09:58:33] <+wave1> S 41.5 nq
[10:04:14] <+wave1> out here =3.6
[10:04:44] <+wave1> 3.5
[10:10:10] <O66NL> s ym 11820
[10:11:22] <+wave1> bac to 38 arae ..bounced from here
[10:14:32] <+O66NL> out 11830 -10
[10:30:51] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 723.90 -> small size
[10:30:52] <T4n_paper> Long TF @ 723.8 -> small size «« simulator »»
[10:30:57] <@wrbtrader> 2+1
[10:31:24] <+wave1> S 41.5 nq
[10:32:36] <+wave1> r L 42
[10:32:47] <+T4n_paper> Exited TF Long @ 724.8 --> + 1 «« simulator »»
[10:33:52] <+wave1> out 2 ticks +
[10:40:17] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 725.40 --> + 1.5
[10:40:34] <@wrbtrader> Geeesh...
[10:40:44] <+wave1> wd nq now move
[10:40:56] <+T4n_paper> did it jump from 5.6 - 5.2?
[10:41:20] <@wrbtrader> I moved my stop from 724.00 to 725.40 when Emini TF was @ 726.30
[10:41:38] <@wrbtrader> My stop then got hit about 2 seconds later :(
[10:42:03] <@wrbtrader> actually...log shows 7 seconds later
[10:46:26] <+wave1> geez low vol moves
[10:46:34] <+wave1> was thinking L on pb
[10:49:25] <+wave1> broke the lows
[10:51:04] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[11:06:50] <+T4n_paper> jeez
[11:07:11] <+T4n_paper> I ignored two shorts and paid for it
[11:08:50] <@wrbtrader> I wasn't ready to trade again after my first trade due to some family distractions...
[11:09:00] <@wrbtrader> Nice price drop
[11:09:19] <+T4n_paper> kim jong il price drop?
[11:09:40] <+T4n_paper> maybe sparking new fears
[11:09:42] <+wave1> y geez was thinking l but did not catch the S :(
[11:10:39] <+wave1> fear in place now
[11:15:30] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 715.40 -> medium size
[11:15:38] <@wrbtrader> :(
[11:16:51] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 715.50 --> + 0.1
[11:17:15] <+wave1> good escape
[11:17:27] <@wrbtrader> exactly
[11:17:38] <@wrbtrader> trade entry was an error
[11:18:02] <@wrbtrader> wanted to wait for more volatility to show up before attempting a Long
[11:18:32] <@wrbtrader> If it doesn't happen...I'll be looking to Short a Creeper Down Movement
[11:22:15] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 715.60 -> medium size
[11:22:25] <@wrbtrader> 4 contracts
[11:22:29] <@wrbtrader> will be a tough trade
[11:22:33] <@wrbtrader> tight stop
[11:22:37] <+T4n_paper> Shorts TF @ 715.6 -> medium size «« simulator »»
[11:23:45] <@wrbtrader> WRB pt1 (shallow) reached :(
[11:24:14] <+T4n_paper> Covered 1/2 TF Short @ 715.1 --> + 0.5 «« simulator »»
[11:24:17] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 715.30 --> + 0.3
[11:24:19] <+T4n_paper> Covered Remainder TF Short @ 715.5 --> + 0.1 «« simulator »»
[11:24:56] <@wrbtrader> too bad that WRB pt1 wasn't a volatility spike
[11:25:19] <+T4n_paper> longs were bitint
[11:25:20] <+wave1> gutsy to s ...let us see
[11:25:22] <+T4n_paper> biting
[11:25:24] <+wave1> need some pb
[11:26:46] <+T4n_paper> oil has some strength
[11:33:24] <+T4n_paper> Shorts TF @ 716.1 -> medium size «« simulator »»
[11:34:15] <+T4n_paper> Covered TF Short @ 715.5 --> + 0.6 «« simulator »»
[11:55:01] <+T4n_paper> Shorts TF @ 712.3 -> small size «« simulator »»
[11:56:47] <+T4n_paper> Covered TF Short @ 712.7 --> - 0.4 «« simulator »»
[11:59:35] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 712.50 -> small size
[11:59:41] <@wrbtrader> 3 contracts
[12:00:14] <+T4n_paper> too slow
[12:00:59] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 712.30 --> + 0.2
[12:01:54] <+T4n_paper> nearly shorted the upswing
[12:01:59] <+T4n_paper> comon for me
[12:07:06] <+T4n_paper> Shorts TF @ 713 -> medium size «« simulator »»
[12:08:18] <+T4n_paper> Covered TF Short @ 713.2 --> - 0.2 «« simulator »»
[12:10:13] <+T4n_paper> hmm
[12:10:15] <+T4n_paper> break time
[12:12:26] <+O66NL> s ym 11741
[12:14:50] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 713.30 -> small size
[12:15:04] <@wrbtrader> 2+1
[12:16:23] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 713.00 --> - 0.3
[12:20:54] <+O66NL> exit 11743 -2
[12:21:04] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[12:46:07] <@wrbtrader> be back later...got a personal appointment
[13:29:04] <+T4n_paper> Shorts TF @ 713.5 -> small size «« simulator »»
[13:31:03] <+T4n_paper> Covered TF Short @ 713.4 --> + 0.1 «« simulator »»
[13:33:09] <+T4n_paper> Shorts TF @ 713.2 -> small size «« simulator »»
[13:34:32] <+T4n_paper> Covered TF Short @ 713.5 --> - 0.3 «« simulator »»
[13:34:51] <+T4n_paper> Shorts TF @ 712.8 -> small size «« simulator »»
[13:35:37] <+T4n_paper> Covered TF Short @ 712.3 --> + 0.5 «« simulator »»
[13:51:05] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[13:57:32] <BudFox> short ES@1208.50, low due at 3:30
[14:04:44] <+T4n_paper> Shorts TF @ 714 -> medium size «« simulator »»
[14:09:29] <+T4n_paper> Covered TF Short @ 714.2 --> - 0.2 «« simulator »»
[14:11:44] <+T4n_paper> going to fall into low vol
[14:14:22] <+T4n_paper> Shorts TF @ 713.5 -> small size «« simulator »»
[14:15:41] <+T4n_paper> Covered TF Short @ 714 --> - 0.5 «« simulator »»
[14:15:53] <+O66NL> Long Emini TF @ 714.2 -> small size «« simulator »»
[14:17:38] <+T4n_paper> chipping away at profits
[14:19:13] <+O66NL> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 713.2 --> - 1 «« simulator »»
[14:21:00] <+BudFox> low due at 2:25
[14:22:17] <+O66NL> Long Emini TF @ 713.4 -> small size «« simulator »»
[14:24:56] <+O66NL> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 712.4 --> - 1 «« simulator »»
[14:25:28] <+BudFox> covered short @1204.25
[14:28:04] <+BudFox> daily low due @ 3:30
[14:28:19] <+T4n_paper> nice timing
[14:30:25] <+BudFox> Thanks. Still paper trading. May go live tomorrow.
[14:30:27] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 712.60 -> small size
[14:30:53] <@wrbtrader> 3 contracts
[14:31:04] <+T4n_paper> Good luck to you
[14:34:48] * T4n_paper is now known as t4n_gone
[14:35:11] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 712.30 --> - 0.3
[14:35:24] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 712.30 -> medium size
[14:35:37] <@wrbtrader> 2+2
[14:39:29] <@wrbtrader> support trying hard to develop
[14:40:02] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 712.60 --> - 0.3
[14:41:37] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 712.90 -> medium size
[14:41:49] <@wrbtrader> 3+2
[14:43:51] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 713.10 --> + 0.2
[14:43:56] <@wrbtrader> :(
[14:44:20] <@wrbtrader> another trade that should have moved nicely but didn't
[14:47:31] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 712.30 -> small size
[14:47:37] <@wrbtrader> 3 contracts
[14:57:03] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 713.20 --> - 0.9
[14:57:22] <@wrbtrader> increasing volatility
[15:04:14] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 711.70 -> medium size
[15:04:21] <@wrbtrader> 3+1
[15:04:44] <@wrbtrader> increasing volatility still
[15:07:29] <@wrbtrader> Covered 3/4 Emini TF Short @ 708.60 --> + 3.1
[15:07:35] <@wrbtrader> WRB pt1 reached
[15:08:47] <+BudFox> Low should be @1198
[15:13:34] <@wrbtrader> Using hindsight...that range between 1140am - 1500pm est was just a "low volatility tight trading range" of a Creeper Down Movement
[15:15:25] <@wrbtrader> Hindsight still "useful"...reason why I'm still Short on the remainging contract
[15:18:05] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[15:19:17] <+BudFox> the low will be retested between 3:30 and 4:00
[15:19:44] <+BudFox> have been holding a single contract short since the open
[15:21:19] * t4n_gone is now known as t4n
[15:22:37] <@wrbtrader> Creeper Down Movement developing again
[15:23:36] <@wrbtrader> This runner makes up for the missed trade opportunity (Short) around 1402pm est when I was out doing Xmas Shopping
[15:24:18] <+t4n> I tried it
[15:25:32] <@wrbtrader> t4n...I just checked the log...why did you have problems hanging on to those
[15:25:37] <@wrbtrader> Short positions
[15:25:38] <@wrbtrader> ?
[15:25:52] <+t4n> let me check
[15:26:36] <+t4n> The volatility kept kicking me right on entry
[15:26:57] <+t4n> and some long shadows against me
[15:27:21] <@wrbtrader> I understand because it did that to me in the Short position (loser) before my current position
[15:27:56] <@wrbtrader> I thought I had a great entry and then it did a "volatility spike" against me.
[15:28:33] <+t4n> well if it's tough for you, it's certainly tough for me
[15:28:55] <@wrbtrader> Lets put it this way...
[15:29:05] <+t4n> smaller pain threshold
[15:29:22] <@wrbtrader> Every year I tell myself I'm going to take off from trading the "entire month of December from December 1st - 31st"
[15:29:46] <@wrbtrader> Reason...December is notoriously tough for "volatility traders".
[15:30:36] <@wrbtrader> I usually get shaken out of "a lot" of trades in December that I normally don't get taken out of any other time of the year.
[15:31:04] <+t4n> i see
[15:31:35] <@wrbtrader> I just try to survive the first 3 weeks of December before I got into "vacation mode".
[15:31:58] <@wrbtrader> Will be doing very little trading between December 21st - 31st.
[15:32:35] <+t4n> yeah, i'd expect strange action around christmas time
[15:32:37] <@wrbtrader> BudFox...geeesh...you nailed the time duration of the price drop to test the lows.
[15:32:53] <@wrbtrader> nice
[15:34:58] <@wrbtrader> Covered Remainder Emini TF Short @ 704.70 --> + 7
[15:36:14] <+t4n> nice indeed
[15:49:56] <@wrbtrader> 4pm est rush hour traffic around the corner
[15:55:15] <+t4n> Long TF @ 704.5 -> small size «« simulator »»
[15:57:09] <+t4n> Exited TF Long @ 705 --> + 0.5 «« simulator »»
[15:59:13] <@wrbtrader> Poor volatility so far going into the 4pm est rush hour traffic :(
[16:04:43] <+t4n> Long TF @ 705.1 -> small size «« simulator »»
[16:05:22] <+t4n> Exited TF Long @ 705.4 --> + 0.3 «« simulator »»
[16:19:24] <+t4n> bye all
[16:45:05] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
Session Close: Mon Dec 19 17:41:03 2011

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#FuturesTrades is free and is a serious professional trading chat room in which any trader can use the chat room to post their trades or commentaries involving futures, exchange traded funds or forex currencies. Simply, you don't need to be a client of TheStrategyLab.com to use the chat room nor do you need to be a price action only trader (no indicators) because some members use indicators while others do not.

Therefore, we welcome all traders with their own trade signal methods, different perspective of the markets and different experience levels. To gain access to #FuturesTrades...please follow the instructions at the below link.

http://www.thestrategylab.com/ftchat/forum/viewforum.php?f=5

The purpose of #FuturesTrades is that it's designed to be a trade journal for documentation purposes only so that members can have a time stamp archive of trades and market commentaries of each trading day so that they can better understand their broker statements from one trade to the next trade when they review their performance numbers on any given trading day.

Further, members are not obligated to educate nor help other members but members are encourage to ask questions about any trades or market commentaries that's posted by others because sometimes the answers contains useful trading tips.

In addition, our primary job in the free chat room is to moderate the room (keep the peace) because with so many members using different trade signal methods along with different opinions about the market...debates or arguments can easily flare up without moderating. In addition, our presence in the chat room is to ensure it's a spam free chat room during trading although these archived chat logs may contain advertisements for guest visitors.

Commonly discussed trading instruments from futures, exchange traded funds and forex currencies:

Image CME Emini Futures EMD, ES and NQ

Image ICE Emini TF Futures (formerly CME ER2)

Image CBOT mini-sized Dow Futures YM

Image Eurex Index Derivatives (futures) DAX and DJ Euro Stoxx50

Image Eurex Fixed Income Derivatives (futures) BUND, BOBL and Schatz

Image Euronext Futures FTSE-100 and CAC-40

Image CME Futures EuroFX 6E and EC

Image Treasury Futures T-Notes ZT, ZN, ZF and T-Bonds ZB

Image Forex Currencies GbpUsd, EurUsd, EurYen and UsdCad

Image Exchange Traded Funds VXX, DIA, IWM, QQQ, SPY, BGU, FAS, FAZ, TNA, OIH, XLE and GLD

Image NYMEX Energy Futures Light Crude Oil CL, Brent Crude Oil BRN, e-miNY QM and Natural Gas NG

Image COMEX Metal Futures Gold GC, mini-Gold YG, Copper HG and Silver SI

Image S&P CNX NIFTY Futures

Image Hang Seng Index Futures HSI and mini-Hang Seng MHI

Also, to prevent the usual mix-up about our different chat rooms, most of our fee-base clients do not use chat rooms just like most retail traders do not use chat rooms. Yet, the few clients that do use chat rooms, our fee-base clients are discussing market analysis or price action only trade signals via concepts from our strategies in the private chat rooms called #VolatilityTradingTSL or #SwingTradingTSL and they're not allowed to do such in #FuturesTrades.

Reminder, our Terms of Use (TOU) Policy is a must read to prevent any misunderstandings along with revealing that #FuturesTrades is a serious professional trading chat room and we expect members to act professional. Also, these logs may have been edited (rarely) to remove any messages that a member has complained to me via private message that they consider a particular commentary to be inappropriate, offending or too far in the off topic area that's a distraction when the commentary was posted.

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