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 Post subject: December 5th Monday - Futures, ETFs and Forex Currencies
 Post Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:57 pm 
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#FuturesTrades is designed to be a trade journal for documentation purposes only so that members can have a real time stamp archive of trades and market commentaries of each trading day so that they can better understand their broker statements from one trade to the next trade when they review their performance numbers on any given trading day.

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Session Start: Mon Dec 05 07:12:10 2011
Session Ident: #futurestrades
[07:12:10] * Now talking in #futurestrades
[07:12:10] <@X> [NihabaAshi] chat room archives @ viewforum.php?f=20
[09:03:59] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[09:18:09] <@wrbtrader> Good morning all
[09:18:23] <wave1> gm N
[09:27:19] <Trendtrader> gm all
[09:29:08] <drt> gm
[09:29:20] <Tigerman> gm all
[09:31:29] <+Trendtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 745.3 «« simulator »»
[09:35:48] <+Trendtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 746.5 --> - 1.2 «« simulator »»
[09:39:15] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 745.20 -> medium size
[09:39:22] <@wrbtrader> 4 contracts
[09:40:23] <@wrbtrader> Covered 3/4 Emini TF Short @ 744.20 --> + 1
[09:41:52] <+wave1> again feed issue :9
[09:43:13] <@wrbtrader> Covered Remainder Emini TF Short @ 743.80 --> + 1.4
[09:45:02] <+Tigerman> good wrbtrader
[09:50:58] <+wave1> k es charts working
[09:54:03] <+wave1> S 1281 es
[09:54:07] <+wave1> 61
[09:58:05] <+wave1> out -1
[10:01:00] <+wave1> 10:00 AM ISM Non-Mfg Index (prior: 52.9 cons: 53.9)
[10:02:00] <@wrbtrader> Yep and there goes the volatility spike
[10:10:07] <@wrbtrader> I'm a little surprise we got "volatility contraction" after those 10am est key economic reports
[10:12:08] <+Tigerman> seems market digest the previous news and doesn t care this one
[10:17:53] <+wave1> chasing L here but will wait for pb
[10:28:41] <T4n_paper> Long TF @ 748.7 -> medium size «« simulator »»
[10:32:16] <+T4n_paper> Exited 1/2 TF Long @ 749.4 --> + 0.7 «« simulator »»
[10:34:35] <+T4n_paper> Exited Remainder TF Long @ 749.5 --> + 0.8 «« simulator »»
[10:34:55] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[10:37:20] <@wrbtrader> Creeper Up Movement still intact
[10:39:00] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 749.40 -> small size
[10:39:06] <@wrbtrader> 3 contracts
[10:40:16] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 749.10 --> - 0.3
[10:40:48] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 749.20 -> medium size
[10:40:52] <@wrbtrader> 2+2
[10:40:56] <@wrbtrader> re-entry
[10:42:32] <@wrbtrader> volatility still contracting
[10:42:56] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 748.90 --> - 0.3
[10:43:20] <+wave1> hard to L here even small pb can give the creeps
[10:46:04] <+Tigerman> congestion mud
[10:46:19] <+Tigerman> difficult spot an entry
[10:49:33] <+T4n_paper> I would try a long, but price is at a key level
[10:51:03] <+T4n_paper> Long TF @ 748.8 -> small size «« simulator »»
[10:51:56] <+T4n_paper> Exited TF Long @ 748.7 --> - 0.1 «« simulator »»
[10:54:54] <+T4n_paper> Long TF @ 748.6 -> small size «« simulator »»
[10:55:47] <+T4n_paper> Exited TF Long @ 748.4 --> - 0.2 «« simulator »»
[10:57:16] <+T4n_paper> Shorts TF @ 748.3 -> small size «« simulator »»
[11:00:11] <+T4n_paper> struggling
[11:01:26] <+T4n_paper> Covered TF Short @ 748.4 --> - 0.1 «« simulator »»
[11:01:28] <+T4n_paper> i tried
[11:04:09] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 748.20 -> small size
[11:04:16] <@wrbtrader> 3 contracts
[11:11:02] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 748.80 --> + 0.6
[11:11:12] <@wrbtrader> :(
[11:11:25] <@wrbtrader> adjusted my trail to the wrong price
[11:12:50] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 748.60 -> small size
[11:12:53] <+wave1> geez that is not too bad I sometimes instead of L go S..lol
[11:12:57] <@wrbtrader> 2 contracts
[11:13:22] <@wrbtrader> re-entry via prior trade a trade management problem
[11:15:58] <@wrbtrader> WRB pt1 reached
[11:16:27] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 749.30 --> + 0.7
[12:01:56] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[12:14:51] <@wrbtrader> Creeper Up Movement
[12:17:58] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 750.10 -> small size
[12:18:04] <@wrbtrader> 2+1
[12:19:07] <@wrbtrader> late entry but only because I waited a little longer in trying to get a better entry price
[12:19:44] <@wrbtrader> didn't get the better entry but decided to go for it anyways...low risk because I can keep a tight stop loss
[12:21:56] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 750.40 --> + 0.3
[12:22:01] <@wrbtrader> early exit
[12:22:10] <@wrbtrader> be back later...got some family distractions
[12:22:21] * wrbtrader is now known as wrbtrader_away
[13:03:08] <werner> hi all
[13:04:31] <+werner> 2344/45 res nq imo..lets see
[13:05:37] <T4n_paper> Long TF @ 752.1 -> small size «« simulator »»
[13:09:42] <+T4n_paper> Exited TF Long @ 751.8 --> - 0.3 «« simulator »»
[13:24:03] <+werner> 2338/39 maybe sup
[13:24:21] <+werner> nq
[13:31:56] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[13:36:46] <+werner> mmm to fast to trade the scalp
[13:40:35] <+T4n_paper> Long TF @ 752.4 -> medium size «« simulator »»
[13:41:49] <+T4n_paper> Exited TF Long @ 751.8 --> - 0.6 «« simulator »»
[13:45:30] <+T4n_paper> Shorts TF @ 749.9 -> medium size «« simulator »»
[13:46:53] <+werner> Long Emini NQ @ 2335.50 «« day trade »»
[13:47:00] <+T4n_paper> Covered TF Short @ 750.9 --> - 1 «« simulator »»
[13:47:06] <+T4n_paper> racking up the losses again
[13:48:08] <+werner> Exited all Emini NQ Long @ 2335.00 --> - 0.5 «« day trade »»
[13:48:46] <+T4n_paper> Shorts TF @ 749.6 -> medium size «« simulator »»
[13:50:00] <+T4n_paper> Covered 1/2 TF Short @ 748.5 --> + 1.1 «« simulator »»
[13:50:30] <+T4n_paper> Covered Remainder TF Short @ 747.7 --> + 1.9 «« simulator »»
[13:52:50] <+werner> Shorts Emini NQ @ 2330.00 «« day trade »»
[13:55:17] <+werner> Covered all Emini NQ Short @ 2329.00 --> + 1 «« day trade »»
[14:14:14] <+T4n_paper> Long TF @ 744.5 -> small size «« simulator »»
[14:14:49] <+T4n_paper> Exited TF Long @ 744.7 --> + 0.2 «« simulator »»
[14:25:31] * wrbtrader_away is now known as wrbtrader
[14:27:02] <@wrbtrader> FYI - That huge price drop was due to news - Analysts at S&P warned Germany and the other AAA-rated eurozone countries (AGAIN) that they are at risk of losing their top-notch ratings because of economic and political turmoil.
[14:28:15] <+T4n_paper> thanks
[14:31:55] <+T4n_paper> Shorts TF @ 744.6 -> medium size «« simulator »»
[14:33:18] <+T4n_paper> Covered TF Short @ 744.5 --> + 0.1 «« simulator »»
[14:34:49] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 744.10 -> small size
[14:34:55] <@wrbtrader> 3 contracts
[14:35:32] <+T4n_paper> Shorts TF @ 744.1 -> small size «« simulator »»
[14:35:35] <Tigerman> hi all again
[14:35:49] <+Tigerman> I have to check something
[14:36:38] <+Tigerman> because after asome hours I am disconnected automatic from the chat ..
[14:37:32] <+T4n_paper> Covered TF Short @ 744.5 --> - 0.4 «« simulator »»
[14:37:44] <@wrbtrader> I use to have that problem ONLY on my laptop
[14:38:00] <@wrbtrader> Until I disable the "sleep mode"
[14:38:39] <+Tigerman> infact I am on laptop so maybe I can solve in the same way
[14:39:21] <+Tigerman> but strange most of the time after resume from sleep no have any problem
[14:39:45] <+Tigerman> in contrast after many hours of chat the problem arise
[14:42:31] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 744.70 --> - 0.6
[14:42:31] <+Tigerman> ok now the laptop is in NEVER standby hope it helps
[14:44:43] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 744.10 -> small size
[14:44:49] <@wrbtrader> 3 conracts
[14:44:53] <@wrbtrader> re-entry
[14:48:17] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 744.00 --> + 0.1
[14:50:37] <+werner> Long Emini NQ @ 2327.00 «« day trade »»
[14:52:15] <+werner> brr
[14:55:25] <@wrbtrader> WRB Hidden GAP @ 1448pm - 1450pm est interval
[14:55:56] <@wrbtrader> Creeper Up Movement developing
[14:56:07] <+werner> i hope so:)
[14:57:28] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 746.40 -> small size
[14:57:43] <@wrbtrader> 1 contract
[14:58:05] <+werner> Exited all Emini NQ Long @ 2329.75 --> + 2.75 «« day trade »»
[14:58:26] <@wrbtrader> OIH and XLE had a good looking Creeper Up Movement but the Emini futures spiked instead.
[14:58:44] <@wrbtrader> I don't like going Long after a spike...reason why I lowered my position size
[15:00:34] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 764.30 -> Add
[15:00:41] <@wrbtrader> 2 added
[15:01:12] <@wrbtrader> meant 746.30 and not 764.30
[15:01:30] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 746.30 -> Add
[15:01:46] <@wrbtrader> Exited Emini TF Long @ 745.80 --> - 1.1
[15:01:57] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[15:04:28] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 746.40 -> small size
[15:04:35] <@wrbtrader> 3 contracts
[15:04:38] <@wrbtrader> re-entry
[15:06:18] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 745.80 --> - 0.6
[15:06:20] <+werner> news?
[15:06:35] <@wrbtrader> Yes
[15:06:59] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 744.80 -> large size
[15:07:03] <@wrbtrader> 4+2
[15:07:31] <+werner> tx wrbtrader
[15:09:17] <@wrbtrader> Covered 1/2 Emini TF Short @ 742.90 --> + 1.9
[15:16:47] <@wrbtrader> Covered Emini TF Short @ 740.80 --> + 4
[15:16:52] <+werner> Shorts Emini NQ @ 2318.00 «« day trade »»
[15:17:00] <@wrbtrader> Holding 1 contract remainder
[15:18:12] <+werner> Covered all Emini NQ Short @ 2320.00 --> - 2 «« day trade »»
[15:20:01] <+werner> Shorts Emini NQ @ 2318.50 «« day trade »»
[15:23:41] <+werner> Covered all Emini NQ Short @ 2316.75 --> + 1.75 «« day trade »»
[15:25:14] <@wrbtrader> With news like the possible downgrade even AFTER the FED and Central Banks added money...
[15:25:45] <@wrbtrader> I'm a little surprise there wasn't more volatility that would cause a gap fill
[15:28:44] <@wrbtrader> It's the only reason why I'm trying to ride this trade...due to the type of "news event"
[15:31:24] <+werner> difficult market
[15:31:48] <@wrbtrader> NEVER let anyone try to convince you that "news is not important" or "news is already priced into the market"...
[15:31:56] <@wrbtrader> Old wives tale
[15:33:10] <+werner> lol
[15:34:06] <+werner> Long Emini NQ @ 2319.00 «« day trade »»
[15:34:23] <+werner> Long Emini NQ @ 2318.00 «« day trade »»
[15:34:27] <+werner> sorry
[15:36:38] <+werner> Exited all Emini NQ Long @ 2318.25 --> + 0.25 «« day trade »»
[15:36:57] <+werner> djeez
[15:39:19] <@wrbtrader> This may turn into a rodeo contest going into the 4pm est rush hour traffic if volatility shows up
[15:39:54] <+werner> fasten you seatbelts
[15:39:59] <+werner> your
[15:40:05] <@wrbtrader> meant...volatility has been contracting the past 20 mins and is setting up for a volatility spike
[15:42:54] <+werner> Long Emini NQ @ 2329.25 «« day trade »»
[15:43:05] <+werner> Long Emini NQ @ 2319.25 «« day trade »»
[15:43:09] <+werner> pff
[15:45:55] <+werner> Exited all Emini NQ Long @ 2318.00 --> - 1.25 «« day trade »»
[15:45:57] <@wrbtrader> 4pm est rush hour traffic around the corner
[15:47:03] <@wrbtrader> Covered Remainder Emini TF Short @ 744.00 --> + 0.8
[15:53:00] <+T4n_paper> Shorts TF @ 744.2 -> medium size «« simulator »»
[15:53:42] <@wrbtrader> WRB Hidden GAP @ 1546pm - 1548pm est
[15:54:32] <+T4n_paper> Covered TF Short @ 744.6 --> - 0.4 «« simulator »»
[15:54:42] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 745.10 -> small size
[15:54:50] <@wrbtrader> 2+1
[15:56:35] <@wrbtrader> getting choppy
[15:57:07] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 745.20 --> + 0.1
[15:58:37] <@wrbtrader> Creeper Up Movement still intact
[15:59:36] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 745.80 -> small size
[15:59:42] <@wrbtrader> 3 contracts
[16:00:10] <+T4n_paper> i only narrowly didn't short this
[16:01:03] <+werner> gn all
[16:05:27] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 748.10 --> + 2.3
[16:06:08] <+Tigerman> very good wrbtrader
[16:07:12] <@wrbtrader> Thanks...that WRB Hidden GAP @ 1546pm - 1548pm est help be a little more patient because it wasn't being retraced
[16:28:57] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[16:31:22] * T4n_paper is now known as t4n_gone
[16:33:14] <@wrbtrader> Take care all and see all tomorrow
[16:33:36] * wrbtrader is now known as wrbtrader_away
[16:39:01] <+Tigerman> see all tomorrow
[17:49:25] * t4n_gone is now known as t4n_paper
[17:58:58] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
Session Close: Mon Dec 05 18:25:51 2011

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Therefore, we welcome all traders with their own trade signal methods, different perspective of the markets and different experience levels. To gain access to #FuturesTrades...please follow the instructions at the below link.

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The purpose of #FuturesTrades is that it's designed to be a trade journal for documentation purposes only so that members can have a time stamp archive of trades and market commentaries of each trading day so that they can better understand their broker statements from one trade to the next trade when they review their performance numbers on any given trading day.

Further, members are not obligated to educate nor help other members but members are encourage to ask questions about any trades or market commentaries that's posted by others because sometimes the answers contains useful trading tips.

In addition, our primary job in the free chat room is to moderate the room (keep the peace) because with so many members using different trade signal methods along with different opinions about the market...debates or arguments can easily flare up without moderating. In addition, our presence in the chat room is to ensure it's a spam free chat room during trading although these archived chat logs may contain advertisements for guest visitors.

Commonly discussed trading instruments from futures, exchange traded funds and forex currencies:

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Image ICE Emini TF Futures (formerly CME ER2)

Image CBOT mini-sized Dow Futures YM

Image Eurex Index Derivatives (futures) DAX and DJ Euro Stoxx50

Image Eurex Fixed Income Derivatives (futures) BUND, BOBL and Schatz

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Image CME Futures EuroFX 6E and EC

Image Treasury Futures T-Notes ZT, ZN, ZF and T-Bonds ZB

Image Forex Currencies GbpUsd, EurUsd, EurYen and UsdCad

Image Exchange Traded Funds VXX, DIA, IWM, QQQQ, SPY, BGU, FAS, FAZ, TNA, OIH, XLE and GLD

Image NYMEX Energy Futures Light Crude Oil CL, Brent Crude Oil BRN, e-miNY QM and Natural Gas NG

Image COMEX Metal Futures Gold GC, mini-Gold YG, Copper HG and Silver SI

Image S&P CNX NIFTY Futures

Image Hang Seng Index Futures HSI and mini-Hang Seng MHI

Also, to prevent the usual mix-up about our different chat rooms, most of our fee-base clients do not use chat rooms just like most retail traders do not use chat rooms. Yet, the few clients that do use chat rooms, our fee-base clients are discussing market analysis or price action only trade signals via concepts from our strategies in the private chat rooms called #VolatilityTradingTSL or #SwingTradingTSL and they're not allowed to do such in #FuturesTrades.

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