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 Post subject: November 30th Wednesday - Futures, ETFs and Forex Currencies
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#FuturesTrades is free along with being a serious professional trading chat room and any trader can use the chat room to post their trades or commentaries involving futures, exchange traded funds or forex currencies. Further, although our chat room is smaller than the other popular chat rooms...we are the most active chat room in posting trades or market commentaries involving futures, exchange traded funds or forex currencies in comparison to other free chat rooms.

#FuturesTrades is designed to be a trade journal for documentation purposes only so that members can have a real time stamp archive of trades and market commentaries of each trading day so that they can better understand their broker statements from one trade to the next trade when they review their performance numbers on any given trading day.

In addition, we welcome all traders with their own methods or different perspective of the markets to help keep the chat room diversified...posting trades or market commentaries. Also, if you're looking for real-time education in the chat room involving price action only trading (profitably trading without indicators)...you need to contact us to schedule price action only trading real-time discussions. We'll then have one on one (private) real-time price action only trading discussions with you while you're using #FuturesTrades real-time chat room to prevent distractions in the chat room with other members that are using different trading methods in comparison to us. However, you must first download and learn our free study guide at a different forum @ TSL Support Forum * http://www.thestrategylab.com/tsl/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=180

With that said, thanks for reading the trades or market commentaries that's below and we highly recommend you make reading of the logs a part of your trading routine because you will sometimes find useful trade information not discussed anywhere else online nor in any books if you're not interested in scheduling one on one (private) real-time price action only trading education discussions. To gain access to #FuturesTrades chat room...please follow the instructions @ FTCHAT Support Forum * http://www.thestrategylab.com/ftchat/forum/viewforum.php?f=5

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Session Start: Wed Nov 30 07:30:03 2011
Session Ident: #futurestrades
[07:30:03] * Now talking in #futurestrades
[07:30:03] <@X> [TheStrategyLab.com] chat room archives @ viewforum.php?f=20
[08:32:58] <intowin> short ym 11850
[08:57:35] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[09:28:09] <drt> gm all
[09:28:18] <+Trendtrader> gm all
[09:28:46] <+intowin> covers ym at 11820 +30
[09:31:49] <@wrbtrader> Good morning all
[09:32:00] <wave1> gm N
[09:32:09] <winmax60> good morning wrbtrader
[09:32:14] <+wave1> hmmm mkt good news?
[09:34:50] <+Trendtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 721.8 «« simulator »»
[09:35:14] <+Trendtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 720.5 --> + 1.3 «« simulator »»
[09:38:38] <@wrbtrader> Many of the worlds key banks "agreed" to make sure there's enough money :)
[09:39:50] <wiseguy7600> as if that was the problem... :-)
[09:41:07] <@wrbtrader> exactly
[09:41:16] <+wave1> agree
[09:41:31] <@wrbtrader> It's just a band-aid on a gun shot wound
[09:42:10] <+intowin> short ym 11900
[09:42:28] <+wiseguy7600> central banks around the world just keep "averaging in"...
[09:42:50] <+wiseguy7600> and as us traders know too well, averaging works every time but one... :-)
[09:49:33] <+intowin> short term top
[09:50:17] <@wrbtrader> More info about what the FED and global banks did @ http://www.marketwatch.com/story/global ... 2011-11-30
[09:50:46] <+wave1> ty N
[09:51:13] <@wrbtrader> That's why there's the huge gap or big strong continuation price movement to the upside
[09:52:08] <@wrbtrader> Creeper Up Movement still intact
[09:53:20] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 723.30 -> medium size
[09:53:28] <@wrbtrader> 2+2
[09:53:30] <+intowin> wow balsy move
[09:54:17] <+intowin> personally waiting for a pullback before I go long. still short
[09:55:37] <+intowin> short ym 11950 add
[09:56:44] <@wrbtrader> going no where so far
[09:57:06] <+wave1> good move int
[09:57:20] <+intowin> not yet. but will be patient
[09:57:25] <+intowin> way overdone here
[09:57:26] <+wave1> yes
[09:59:00] <@wrbtrader> increasing volatility
[09:59:55] <+wave1> pending home sals high
[10:00:50] <+intowin> market on crack today lol
[10:01:01] <+intowin> will hang tuff.. back in a bit
[10:01:16] <+wave1> TF lag Es
[10:03:47] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 723.80 --> + 0.5
[10:04:57] <@wrbtrader> Was hoping the WRB Hidden GAP @ 0940am est would give more support to the Creeper Up Movement
[10:05:34] <@wrbtrader> So far, starting to look like all the fun happen BEFORE 0930am est :(
[10:06:16] <+wave1> y news driven from europe
[10:24:00] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 723.40 -> small size
[10:24:06] <@wrbtrader> 3 contracts
[10:24:14] <@wrbtrader> re-entry into the Creeper Up Movement
[10:24:36] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[10:24:51] <+wave1> 10:30 AM EIA Petroleum Status Report
[10:25:34] <@wrbtrader> WRB pt1 (shallow) reached
[10:26:25] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 723.80 --> + 0.4
[10:27:50] <@wrbtrader> Tough to squeeze out profits in this sideways low volatility tight trading range
[10:28:23] <+wave1> y 1sr few mins but now ...tricky
[10:31:01] <@wrbtrader> volatility trying hard to expand now
[10:38:21] <@wrbtrader> Creeper Up Movement still intact
[10:45:25] <+wave1> s getting squuezed
[10:45:36] <+wave1> used to s such moves no more
[10:51:11] <@wrbtrader> Lately, volatility contraction has been occurring a lot longer than usual
[10:54:34] <+wave1> some strength in this mkt
[10:55:42] <@wrbtrader> WRB Hidden GAP @ 1030am est 2 min chart in Emini TF futures
[10:56:01] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 725.50 -> small size
[10:56:09] <@wrbtrader> 3 contracts
[10:56:19] <@wrbtrader> re-entry into the Creeper Up Movement
[10:57:16] <@wrbtrader> WRB pt1 (shallow) reached :(
[10:57:49] <@wrbtrader> These shallow pt1 almost not worth trading since the open
[10:58:03] <+wave1> n1 N gutsy
[10:58:09] <@wrbtrader> trailing @ profit
[10:58:25] <@wrbtrader> May get lucky and catch a volatility spike to the upside
[11:01:18] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 725.80 --> + 0.3
[11:02:03] <+wave1> Es is not conducive to trade now
[11:03:33] <@wrbtrader> Yeah...Emini ES has had a WRB Hidden GAP in awhile now
[11:04:02] <@wrbtrader> 0940am est is the last one I have on the regular session chart
[11:04:07] <@wrbtrader> 2min chart
[11:04:23] <+wave1> y like 2m chart and 5m on es
[11:08:03] <T4n_paper> AD still doing it's own thing :(
[11:11:39] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 726.30 -> small size
[11:12:51] <@wrbtrader> Just took a trade in Emini TF by mistake based upon the Creeper Up Movement in the Oil exchange trade funds
[11:13:04] <@wrbtrader> I thought I was looking at the AD lines :(
[11:13:18] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 725.80 --> - 0.5
[11:14:15] <@wrbtrader> 3 contracts
[11:14:22] <+wave1> 725.1 looks place to go L on TF
[11:25:30] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 767.60 -> small size
[11:25:37] <@wrbtrader> 3 contracts
[11:26:09] <@wrbtrader> waited for a 726.40 price but couldn't get it...
[11:26:24] <@wrbtrader> Now it's available after my entry @ 767.60
[11:26:26] <@wrbtrader> :(
[11:27:03] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 726.40 --> - 41.2
[11:27:15] <@wrbtrader> -0.2
[11:32:54] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 726.50 -> small size
[11:33:00] <@wrbtrader> 3 contracts
[11:33:19] <@wrbtrader> re-entry into Creeper Up Movement
[11:33:35] <@wrbtrader> waited for a decent entry this time
[11:35:53] <@wrbtrader> another shallow WRB pt1 reached :(
[11:36:08] <@wrbtrader> will try to catch a WRB pt2
[11:36:13] <@wrbtrader> trailing @ profit
[11:36:34] <+wave1> n1 N even in this creep moves
[11:37:28] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 726.80 --> + 0.3
[11:37:33] <@wrbtrader> geeesh
[11:38:19] <@wrbtrader> Now that I'm tired and ready to take a break...
[11:38:30] <+wave1> k N
[11:38:36] <@wrbtrader> Price action will make a big move when I walk away from the computer :(
[11:38:47] <@wrbtrader> be back later...going to lunch
[11:39:08] * wrbtrader is now known as wrbtrader_away
[11:40:42] <+wave1> later guys ty all
[11:54:36] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[12:04:03] <+T4n_paper> Shorts TF @ 726 -> small size «« simulator »»
[12:07:01] <+T4n_paper> Covered TF Short @ 725.7 --> + 0.3 «« simulator »»
[13:01:04] <+T4n_paper> t
[13:07:55] <+T4n_paper> Shorts TF @ 727 -> medium size «« simulator »»
[13:10:02] <+T4n_paper> Covered TF Short @ 727.1 --> - 0.1 «« simulator »»
[13:21:37] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[13:23:00] <+intowin> covered short 11950 flat and -50 pullback should have come by now. lost patience
[13:36:24] <+intowin> long ym 11950
[13:46:12] <+T4n_paper> big opening gap made the day dull
[13:50:10] <+T4n_paper> Shorts TF @ 626.3 -> small size «« simulator »»
[13:50:41] <+T4n_paper> Covered TF Short @ 726 --> - 99.7 «« simulator »»
[13:50:51] <+T4n_paper> Covered TF Short @ 626 --> + 0.3 «« simulator »»
[14:04:21] <+T4n_paper> Shorts TF @ 726.1 -> medium size «« simulator »»
[14:04:43] <+T4n_paper> e 726.4
[14:04:47] <+T4n_paper> Covered TF Short @ 726.4 --> - 0.3 «« simulator »»
[14:30:21] <+T4n_paper> Shorts TF @ 726.9 -> small size «« simulator »»
[14:31:52] <+T4n_paper> Covered TF Short @ 727.3 --> - 0.4 «« simulator »»
[14:34:02] <+intowin> out flat and done for day. just a grind
[14:51:37] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[14:57:27] * wrbtrader_away is now known as wrbtrader
[15:20:13] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 730.40 -> small size
[15:20:23] <@wrbtrader> 2 contracts
[15:20:25] <@wrbtrader> chasing
[15:22:20] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 730.00 --> - 0.4
[15:24:25] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 729.30 -> small size
[15:24:31] <@wrbtrader> 2 contracts
[15:26:50] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 729.20 --> + 0.1
[15:40:53] <+T4n_paper> Long TF @ 731.2 -> small size «« simulator »»
[15:41:35] <+T4n_paper> Exited TF Long @ 731.4 --> + 0.2 «« simulator »»
[15:46:29] <@wrbtrader> 4pm est rush hour traffic around the corner
[15:46:53] <werner> hi all
[15:47:47] <@wrbtrader> werner...tough price action today after the big run up earlier before the Open
[15:48:04] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 732.10 -> small size
[15:48:10] <+werner> yes indd...its sideways
[15:48:21] <@wrbtrader> 1 contract
[15:48:49] <+werner> strong day so far
[15:48:50] <@wrbtrader> I've tried early entries, chasing...everything...it just shakes out
[15:49:37] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 732.00 -> Add
[15:49:43] <@wrbtrader> 2 added
[15:50:10] <@wrbtrader> WRB pt1 reached
[15:50:37] <@wrbtrader> First one of the day for me that's "not shallow" (small profit)
[15:51:16] <+T4n_paper> of course i miss the one that matters
[15:51:25] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 733.90 --> + 3.7
[15:51:37] <+werner> very nice one
[15:52:21] <+T4n_paper> it only went 2 points
[15:52:24] <+T4n_paper> funky math
[15:52:28] <@wrbtrader> +1.9 (2 contracts) and then +0.8 (1 contract)
[15:52:57] <+werner> here also 2 shake outs today
[15:53:53] <+werner> sofar no money for me today:(
[15:55:39] <+werner> nice run ...i mist it
[15:59:38] <+werner> mark if i am on vacation en when i not login for two weeks thats not a problem is it?
[15:59:38] <@wrbtrader> Price reacting to those rising WRB Hidden GAPs that produced a nice Creeper Up Movement trades
[15:59:53] <@wrbtrader> It's not a problem when you're not here.
[15:59:59] <+werner> ok
[16:00:21] <@wrbtrader> It's only a problem when someone logs in and saids NOTHING about the price action their trading
[16:00:41] <+werner> yes indd
[16:03:28] <+werner> ok tomorrow a new day ...gn all
[16:04:24] <@wrbtrader> Take care and see all tomorrow
[16:18:38] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
Session Close: Wed Nov 30 19:34:20 2011

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#FuturesTrades is free and is a serious professional trading chat room in which any trader can use the chat room to post their trades or commentaries involving futures, exchange traded funds or forex currencies. Simply, you don't need to be a client of TheStrategyLab.com to use the chat room nor do you need to be a price action only trader (no indicators) because some members use indicators while others do not.

Therefore, we welcome all traders with their own trade signal methods, different perspective of the markets and different experience levels. To gain access to #FuturesTrades...please follow the instructions at the below link.

http://www.thestrategylab.com/ftchat/forum/viewforum.php?f=5

The purpose of #FuturesTrades is that it's designed to be a trade journal for documentation purposes only so that members can have a time stamp archive of trades and market commentaries of each trading day so that they can better understand their broker statements from one trade to the next trade when they review their performance numbers on any given trading day.

Further, members are not obligated to educate nor help other members but members are encourage to ask questions about any trades or market commentaries that's posted by others because sometimes the answers contains useful trading tips.

In addition, our primary job in the free chat room is to moderate the room (keep the peace) because with so many members using different trade signal methods along with different opinions about the market...debates or arguments can easily flare up without moderating. In addition, our presence in the chat room is to ensure it's a spam free chat room during trading although these archived chat logs may contain advertisements for guest visitors.

Commonly discussed trading instruments from futures, exchange traded funds and forex currencies:

Image CME Emini Futures EMD, ES and NQ

Image ICE Emini TF Futures (formerly CME ER2)

Image CBOT mini-sized Dow Futures YM

Image Eurex Index Derivatives (futures) DAX and DJ Euro Stoxx50

Image Eurex Fixed Income Derivatives (futures) BUND, BOBL and Schatz

Image Euronext Futures FTSE-100 and CAC-40

Image CME Futures EuroFX 6E and EC

Image Treasury Futures T-Notes ZT, ZN, ZF and T-Bonds ZB

Image Forex Currencies GbpUsd, EurUsd, EurYen and UsdCad

Image Exchange Traded Funds VXX, DIA, IWM, QQQQ, SPY, BGU, FAS, FAZ, TNA, OIH, XLE and GLD

Image NYMEX Energy Futures Light Crude Oil CL, Brent Crude Oil BRN, e-miNY QM and Natural Gas NG

Image COMEX Metal Futures Gold GC, mini-Gold YG, Copper HG and Silver SI

Image S&P CNX NIFTY Futures

Image Hang Seng Index Futures HSI and mini-Hang Seng MHI

Also, to prevent the usual mix-up about our different chat rooms, most of our fee-base clients do not use chat rooms just like most retail traders do not use chat rooms. Yet, the few clients that do use chat rooms, our fee-base clients are discussing market analysis or price action only trade signals via concepts from our strategies in the private chat rooms called #VolatilityTradingTSL or #SwingTradingTSL and they're not allowed to do such in #FuturesTrades.

Reminder, our Terms of Use (TOU) Policy is a must read to prevent any misunderstandings along with revealing that #FuturesTrades is a serious professional trading chat room and we expect members to act professional. Also, these logs may have been edited (rarely) to remove any messages that a member has complained to me via private message that they consider a particular commentary to be inappropriate, offending or too far in the off topic area that's a distraction when the commentary was posted.

Note: All logs regardless to their location at TheStrategyLab.com website are eastern standard time.

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