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 Post subject: September 14th Weds - Futures, ETFs and Forex Currencies
 Post Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 4:25 pm 
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Session Start: Wed Sep 14 09:23:04 2011
Session Ident: #FuturesTrades
[09:23:04] * Now talking in #FuturesTrades
[09:23:04] <@X> [NihabaAshi] chat room archives @ viewforum.php?f=20
[09:23:23] <pat255> today's high target 1189.75?
[09:23:39] <+pat255> gm N
[09:23:44] <+pat255> & others
[09:24:03] <+pat255> @office today ..
[09:24:09] <@wrbtrader> Good morning pat255 and all
[09:25:53] <Tigerman> gm all
[09:26:02] <+pat255> gm T
[09:26:11] <+Tigerman> hi pat
[09:32:47] <+pat255> big push on es
[09:35:41] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 693.60 -> large size
[09:35:50] <@wrbtrader> 2+2+2
[09:36:32] <@wrbtrader> volatility spike
[09:36:35] <@wrbtrader> not expected
[09:36:38] <+pat255> nice read N
[09:36:39] <+Tigerman> Shorts TF @ 690.7 «« simulator »»
[09:36:52] <+Tigerman> late entry too much analys
[09:38:25] <@wrbtrader> Covered 1/2 Emini TF Short @ 690.20 --> + 3.4
[09:38:37] <@wrbtrader> WRB pt1 reached
[09:38:54] <+Tigerman> Covered 1/2 TF Short @ 690.2 --> + 0.5 «« simulator »»
[09:40:10] <+pat255> geez all that push pre open gone
[09:40:16] <Trendtrader> gm all
[09:41:18] <+pat255> vwap es 1167
[09:42:44] <+Trendtrader> Shorts TF @ 688.5 «« simulator »»
[09:43:08] <+Tigerman> Covered Remainder TF Short @ 689 --> + 1.7 «« simulator »»
[09:43:21] <+Tigerman> vola contracting
[09:43:42] <+Trendtrader> Covered all TF Short @ 691.1 --> - 2.6 «« simulator »»
[09:43:53] <+pat255> S 69 paper es
[09:44:11] <+Trendtrader> Long TF @ 690.7 «« simulator »»
[09:45:04] <+Trendtrader> Exited 1/2 TF Long @ 691.7 --> + 1 «« simulator »»
[09:45:15] <+Trendtrader> Exited Remainder TF Long @ 690.9 --> + 0.2 «« simulator »»
[09:45:47] <+pat255> out -1
[09:45:53] <+Trendtrader> last one was not sim.
[09:46:41] <+Trendtrader> pickpocketed! geez
[09:48:02] <+Tigerman> look x short
[09:48:42] <@wrbtrader> trailing @ profit after some software problems
[09:49:29] <@wrbtrader> Hopefully I can get a 2nd chance at a decent exit on these remainders after getting stuck in the trade :(
[09:49:31] <+Tigerman> Shorts TF @ 692.1 «« simulator »»
[09:50:01] <+Tigerman> Covered 1/2 TF Short @ 691.7 --> + 0.4 «« simulator »»
[09:51:44] <+Tigerman> Covered Remainder TF Short @ 691.4 --> + 0.7 «« simulator »»
[09:52:27] <+Tigerman> not enought patience to keep
[09:52:35] <+Tigerman> nice down spike..:(
[09:52:39] <+Trendtrader> good call though!
[09:52:45] <@wrbtrader> Covered Emini TF Short @ 689.60 --> + 4
[09:52:53] <@wrbtrader> Holding 2 contract remainders
[09:52:56] <+pat255> vn N
[09:53:08] <+Tigerman> good wrbtrader
[09:54:17] <+pat255> geez had S entry @ 72 then moved to 72.5
[09:54:34] <+pat255> dang should not wory on ticks :(
[09:54:41] <+Tigerman> Shorts TF @ 689.3 «« simulator »»
[09:54:48] <+Tigerman> just intuition
[09:55:11] <+Tigerman> Covered 1/2 TF Short @ 688.8 --> + 0.5 «« simulator »»
[09:56:09] <+Tigerman> Covered Remainder TF Short @ 688.8 --> + 0.5 «« simulator »»
[09:57:51] <@wrbtrader> Covered Remainder Emini TF Short @ 691.60 --> + 2
[09:59:09] <@wrbtrader> Pending 10am est Business Inventories Report
[09:59:23] <+Tigerman> Shorts TF @ 690 «« simulator »»
[09:59:26] <+Tigerman> intuition
[09:59:52] <+Tigerman> Covered 1/2 TF Short @ 689.5 --> + 0.5 «« simulator »»
[10:00:05] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 689.40 -> small size
[10:00:11] <@wrbtrader> 3 contracts
[10:00:29] <+Tigerman> seems to me news is not good
[10:01:03] <+Tigerman> Covered 1/2 TF Short @ 687 --> + 3 «« simulator »»
[10:03:02] <+Tigerman> need a spike
[10:03:28] <+Tigerman> to break
[10:03:44] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 686.20 --> + 3.2
[10:04:06] <+Tigerman> Covered Remainder TF Short @ 686.5 --> + 3.5 «« simulator »»
[10:04:23] <@wrbtrader> not a WRB exit but just wanted to get out because I'm having some computer problems or something
[10:04:35] <@wrbtrader> didn't want to be stuck in another trade again
[10:04:52] <+Tigerman> yep very safe wrbtrader
[10:06:11] <+Tigerman> price can rebound here
[10:06:30] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 688.00 -> small size
[10:06:35] <@wrbtrader> 2 contracts
[10:06:43] <+Tigerman> Long TF @ 688 «« simulator »»
[10:07:20] <@wrbtrader> trailing @ profit
[10:08:06] <+Tigerman> Exited 1/2 TF Long @ 689 --> + 1 «« simulator »»
[10:08:17] <+Tigerman> tight stop now
[10:08:33] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 688.30 --> + 0.3
[10:09:02] <+Tigerman> Exited Remainder TF Long @ 688.2 --> + 0.2 «« simulator »»
[10:12:31] <@wrbtrader> tigerman...they picked pocketed up very nicely :(
[10:14:53] <+Tigerman> yep pick pock is very upsetting
[10:15:02] <+Tigerman> I have to exit see all later
[10:28:00] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[10:32:34] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 683.30 -> small size
[10:32:38] <@wrbtrader> 2 contracts
[10:33:32] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 684.70 --> + 1.4
[10:33:38] <@wrbtrader> WRB pt1 reached
[10:33:48] <+pat255> vn N .
[10:40:32] <+pat255> S 64.25
[10:41:02] <+pat255> out b/e
[10:41:10] <+pat255> does not look right
[10:43:55] <+pat255> :(
[10:44:54] <@wrbtrader> * price action trading
[10:45:25] <@wrbtrader> Emini TF trying hard to retrace the recent Japanese Candlestick Hangman line
[10:47:27] <+pat255> biab meeting coming up
[10:57:06] <@wrbtrader> More volatility contraction since 1025am est
[11:06:16] <T4N_paper> creepy with a dash of vol
[11:57:54] * intowinafkb is now known as intowin
[11:58:00] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[12:21:57] <T4N_paper> some support
[13:28:00] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[13:40:17] <+T4N_paper> was long at the base of this hammer
[13:40:23] <+T4N_paper> scored a whopping .3
[13:41:21] <+T4N_paper> took a break too soon and missed the big one
[13:44:36] <golface15> .
[14:18:21] <@wrbtrader> Hi...I'm back from a long break
[14:18:46] <+T4N_paper> lots of opportunities today
[14:18:58] <+T4N_paper> i've been fumbling
[14:19:11] <+pat255> the kind of squeeze that grinds higher
[14:19:54] <+T4N_paper> i've got nothing up here
[14:21:27] <+T4N_paper> it's pretty wild to me when i see 30 plus contracts go by the ts
[14:21:45] <+pat255> & S dont help either
[14:21:48] <+T4N_paper> ones and twos then big boys
[14:30:43] <+pat255> even d+ wont help here
[14:30:56] <+pat255> seems hard to go L here so those whoenter S get creamed ..
[14:35:50] <dallasm> I jsut started simulator trading and I don't see how you guys are able to put your trades in here.. way more difficult then I imagined.
[14:36:16] <+pat255> just watch and learn ..
[14:36:43] <+pat255> keep some levels in mind on the charts and see how prices react
[14:37:09] <+pat255> follow some calls and then check your charts to see why?
[14:37:11] <+T4N_paper> posting trades is tough yes
Quote:
[14:38:16] <@wrbtrader> dallasm...it took me about "2 years" to be able to do it
[14:38:52] <@wrbtrader> The first few months...I only posted a 1 - 3 trades per week
[14:39:05] <@wrbtrader> However, here's what I did to help...
[14:39:25] <+pat255> I have a LMT order if hit ..then it is out of my control ..
[14:39:32] <@wrbtrader> I didn't post trades...instead...I just wrote a sentence or two about the price action I was trading.

[14:39:39] <+pat255> a stop goes auto ..
[14:39:45] <@wrbtrader> Very brief statements...for example...
[14:40:11] <@wrbtrader> "Emini TF in a tought volatility contraction the past 15 minutes."
[14:40:37] <@wrbtrader> That's how I started...a few sentences per week like that.
[14:40:43] <@wrbtrader> No trade posting.
[14:41:00] <@wrbtrader> I did that a few months until I got use to it prior to posting my first trade
[14:41:02] <@wrbtrader> :)
[14:41:45] <+pat255> plus the confidence in your entry and read ...so you dont fret at all
[14:42:05] <+pat255> Not easy for me but a work in progress
[14:42:21] <@wrbtrader> Lets put it another way...
[14:42:40] <@wrbtrader> If you're thinking about anything that's trading related prior to a trade...
[14:42:54] <@wrbtrader> You're already doing it without typing :)
[14:43:21] <@wrbtrader> The hard part is to "type what you're thinking about"
[14:43:47] <+pat255> y
[14:43:57] <@wrbtrader> That's why #FuturesTrades is my "trade journal" that provides me info I can't get from my broker statements.
[14:44:31] <@wrbtrader> It's that reason alone I try very hard to post write about as many of my "thoughts" as possible during my trading day.
[14:44:35] <@wrbtrader> It's a DIARY
[14:44:55] <+T4N_paper> I've posted my trades less but kept up my trade journal more
[14:45:07] <+T4N_paper> tough to do both
[14:45:13] <+pat255> N do u do after mkt analysis of your trades?
[14:45:30] <@wrbtrader> pat255...not anymore
[14:45:34] <+pat255> k..
[14:45:36] <@wrbtrader> I did in the past
[14:45:44] <+T4N_paper> wow , why not?
[14:46:00] <@wrbtrader> Usually I'm just updating my trade journal after the close...no more analysis
[14:46:44] <@wrbtrader> In the past...I always did analysis especially problematic trades.
[14:47:10] <@wrbtrader> Now...I'm able to do that while trading and I include my observations in my trade journal
[14:47:54] <+T4N_paper> I'm still novice, i'll continue reviewing my trades
[14:47:57] <+dallasm> Thanks for the insight. I am ama the point where I have an inclination ahead of making the trade so I will start with that for now.
[14:48:22] <+dallasm> at sorry not ama.. nervous already LOL
[14:49:08] <@wrbtrader> The only thing I wish I do more in here is talk more about my thoughts concerning FED, ECB, IMF, Global Economics stuff
[14:49:23] <@wrbtrader> How they are impacting the price action of the markets
[14:50:40] <+T4N_paper> surely this will break down
[14:50:58] <+T4N_paper> weak res
[14:51:38] <@wrbtrader> dallasm...you should already notice I may go long durations without saying anything in here...
[14:52:15] <@wrbtrader> More often than not I'm just "mentally exhausted" via maintaining a trade journal while trading.
[14:52:19] <@wrbtrader> It ain't easy
[14:52:20] <+pat255> S these levels is harakari ..& getting L is not an option
[14:52:38] <+pat255> needto wait until ES reaches 89-90 level
[14:52:56] <+pat255> & if shoots thru it ..then 1203 -06 is in sight
[14:53:22] <+dallasm> Well if I thought I sure as hell don't know :-). I can also see where as a trader most are happy to hear the closing bell.
[14:53:22] <+T4N_paper> i dont see res anymore
[14:53:53] <@wrbtrader> Emini TF volatility spike above that volatility contraction...starting to look like a Breakout
[14:53:54] <+pat255> still see europe in trouble
[14:54:48] <+T4N_paper> I botched a lot of good trades today
[14:54:53] <+T4N_paper> wont be taking part in any of this
[14:55:01] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[14:55:25] <+T4N_paper> 700
[15:01:20] <+T4N_paper> saw 55 contracts at 702.8
[15:01:42] <+T4N_paper> short
[15:04:55] <+T4N_paper> to correct that, they were sell orders, not necessarily chorts
[15:05:07] <+T4N_paper> ~shorts
[15:07:21] <@wrbtrader> very nice creeper uptrend eventhough there a very few trade opportunities
[15:13:13] <+dallasm> i agree. happened right after you notice the spike
[15:14:30] <@wrbtrader> My last trade execution was exiting a Long position way back @ 684.70
[15:14:44] <@wrbtrader> back around 1033am est
[15:15:07] <@wrbtrader> current price action about 20 points higher :)
[15:15:19] <@wrbtrader> That's a good movement
[15:17:05] <+pat255> unbelieavble move today ..
[15:17:19] <+pat255> last 10-12 pts on es very shallow pb
[15:29:59] <@wrbtrader> its still creeping higher since 2:30pm est on no pullback
[15:38:13] <+pat255> yup
[15:43:12] <@wrbtrader> first retracement of a WRB Hidden GAP in awhile
[15:44:42] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 703.00 -> small size
[15:45:09] <@wrbtrader> 2 contracts
[15:45:24] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 703.90 --> - 0.9
[15:45:44] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 703.70 -> small size
[15:45:51] <@wrbtrader> 3 contracts
[15:46:03] <@wrbtrader> same trade but a better entry...prior entry was poor
[15:47:36] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 703.50 --> + 0.2
[15:47:55] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 703.90 -> small size
[15:48:01] <@wrbtrader> 3 contracts
[15:48:03] <@wrbtrader> same trade
[15:49:05] <@wrbtrader> prior WRB Hidden GAP reached
[15:49:11] <@wrbtrader> WRB pt1 reached
[15:49:16] <+pat255> vn N
[15:49:24] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 700.50 --> + 3.4
[15:50:17] <@wrbtrader> 4pm est rush hour traffic around the corner
[15:51:04] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 702.50 -> small size
[15:51:13] <@wrbtrader> 3 contracts
[15:51:17] <@wrbtrader> same trade
[15:51:29] <@wrbtrader> another poor entry
[15:51:41] <@wrbtrader> tighten stop loss
[15:52:19] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 702.30 --> + 0.2
[15:53:18] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 703.10 -> small size
[15:53:26] <@wrbtrader> 3 contracts
[15:53:36] <@wrbtrader> same trade
[15:54:32] <@wrbtrader> tighten stop loss
[15:54:44] <@wrbtrader> trailing @ profit
[15:55:09] <@wrbtrader> WRB pt1 reached
[15:55:26] <@wrbtrader> holding to see if I can get more
[15:55:34] <+pat255> vn N
[15:57:57] <@wrbtrader> WRB pt1 = 700.90
[15:58:58] <@wrbtrader> tighten trail
[16:00:24] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 698.90 --> + 4.2
[16:00:42] <+pat255> good trade on close
[16:01:24] <@wrbtrader> All those trades where I said "same trade" were via the 15 min chart interval because the trade signal occurred on the 15 min chart
[16:02:22] <@wrbtrader> It's been awhile since I've used the 15min chart for a trade even though I have it up on my monitors every day
[16:02:56] <+pat255> i c.. will check 15m chart
[16:02:59] <+pat255> thks N
[16:09:45] <+pat255> k guys have a peaceful night .. cu tomorrow
[16:25:01] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[16:38:46] <@wrbtrader> Take care and see all tomorrow
[16:38:55] * wrbtrader is now known as wrbtrader_away
[16:51:03] <+T4N_paper> Nice work!
[16:51:06] <+T4N_paper> night all
Session Close: Wed Sep 14 17:15:39 2011

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