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 Post subject: September 8th Thursday - Futures, ETFs and Forex Currencies
 Post Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 3:10 pm 
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Session Start: Thu Sep 08 08:20:52 2011
Session Ident: #FuturesTrades
[08:20:52] * Now talking in #FuturesTrades
[08:20:52] <@X> [NihabaAshi] chat room archives @ viewforum.php?f=20
[08:36:35] <intowin> Long Emini YM @ 11350
[08:37:10] <pat255> gm all
[08:45:35] <+intowin> long 11320
[08:45:36] <+intowin> add
[08:45:45] <+intowin> Long Emini YM @ 11320
[08:47:02] <+pat255> have u guys moved to new contract?
[08:47:25] <@wrbtrader> Some do and some don't
[08:47:51] <@wrbtrader> FYI - Today is contract rollover for the Emini Futures.
[08:47:52] <+pat255> k thks N
[08:48:05] <+pat255> will stick with U1 for today
[08:48:21] <@wrbtrader> Thus, be careful to ensure you're trading the contract you prefer to trade.
[08:48:46] <+pat255> y may be the new contract not have enuf Volume
[08:49:18] <@wrbtrader> Volume and Volatility won't start to pick up for the "new" contract until after the first hour of trading
[08:50:30] <+pat255> y usually one can trade the existing contract for atelast 1 day ..tomorrow must move to new Z1
[08:51:14] <@wrbtrader> You can trade the existing contract for more than one day...it trades until expiration day
[08:51:36] <+pat255> ah ha k
[09:03:31] <+intowin> Exited all Emini YM Long @ 11350 --> + 30
[09:13:45] <+pat255> vn
[09:14:46] <+intowin> thanks b/e on one 30 on the other. Think we still "buy the rumor today" about the speach tonight
[09:15:28] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[09:29:48] <Trendtrader> gm all
[09:33:11] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 699.70 -> medium size
[09:33:19] <@wrbtrader> 2+2
[09:33:39] <+pat255> L 91.5 es
[09:33:52] <+pat255> missed the 90 level
[09:35:39] <+pat255> out 93 es
[09:36:18] <@wrbtrader> Exited 1/2 Emini TF Long @ 702.70 --> + 3
[09:36:32] <+pat255> trade deficit better than expected, jobless claims worse than expected
[09:38:31] <@wrbtrader> Exited Emini TF Long @ 704.90 --> + 5.2
[09:38:33] <@wrbtrader> Holding 1 contract remainder
[09:38:38] <+pat255> vvn
[09:39:47] <@wrbtrader> Exited Remainder Emini TF Long @ 705.90 --> + 6.2
[09:44:39] <+Trendtrader> Shorts TF @ 709.7 «« simulator »»
[09:46:30] <+Trendtrader> Covered 1/2 TF Short @ 708.7 --> + 1 «« simulator »»
[09:46:54] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 704.10 -> small size
[09:47:07] <@wrbtrader> 2 contracts
[09:47:50] <+Trendtrader> Covered Remainder TF Short @ 708.5 --> + 1.2 «« simulator »»
[09:48:25] <@wrbtrader> tighten stop loss
[09:49:24] <+Trendtrader> Shorts TF @ 707.4 «« simulator »»
[09:50:10] <+Trendtrader> re-entry
[09:50:42] <@wrbtrader> trailing @ profit
[09:51:24] <+Trendtrader> Covered 1/2 TF Short @ 706.4 --> + 1 «« simulator »»
[09:51:55] <@wrbtrader> WRB pt1 reached (big one)
[09:52:15] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 701.50 --> + 2.6
[09:52:58] <+pat255> wd n
[09:53:46] <+Trendtrader> Covered Remainder TF Short @ 705.4 --> + 2 «« simulator »»
[09:56:16] <werner> hi all
[09:59:06] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 700.50 -> small size
[09:59:10] <@wrbtrader> 2 contracts
[09:59:49] <+werner> Long Emini NQ @ 2217.00 «« day trade »»
[10:00:21] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 699.50 --> - 1
[10:00:22] <+werner> Exited all Emini NQ Long @ 2215.00 --> - 2 «« day trade »»
[10:00:36] <+werner> Shorts Emini NQ @ 2214.00 «« day trade »»
[10:00:55] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 698.30 -> medium size
[10:01:01] <@wrbtrader> 3+1
[10:01:18] <+werner> Covered all Emini NQ Short @ 2211.00 --> + 3 «« day trade »»
[10:02:04] <@wrbtrader> support failure on the 10am est as if there was a 10am key market event :(
[10:02:15] <@wrbtrader> My calendar doesn't show one
[10:02:15] <+werner> :(
[10:04:49] <+werner> Long Emini NQ @ 2214.00 «« day trade »»
[10:05:40] <@wrbtrader> tighten stop loss
[10:05:53] <+werner> Exited all Emini NQ Long @ 2214.25 --> + 0.25 «« day trade »»
[10:05:57] <+werner> brr
[10:06:22] <+werner> Long Emini NQ @ 2216.00 «« day trade »»
[10:06:32] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 699.20 --> - 0.9
[10:07:12] <@wrbtrader> a little too soon for the contract volatility switch...usually occurs AFTER the first hour of trading
[10:07:25] <+werner> Exited all Emini NQ Long @ 2218.00 --> + 2 «« day trade »»
[10:08:49] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 700.50 -> small size
[10:08:53] <@wrbtrader> 2 contracts
[10:09:03] <@wrbtrader> intuition
[10:09:24] <@wrbtrader> back in the price action of the prior losing Long position on the spike down
[10:10:58] <@wrbtrader> trailing @ profit
[10:11:13] <+pat255> S 1193 es
[10:11:38] <@wrbtrader> initial profit target is the Open of a prior WRB Hidden GAP @ 704.10
[10:11:51] <+pat255> out 2t
[10:12:28] <@wrbtrader> If it starts to stall...I'll take any WRB pt1 that forms
[10:15:22] <@wrbtrader> volatility contraction...price starting to stall
[10:18:32] <+pat255> missed the 2220 entry on nq
[10:19:22] <+pat255> geez oh well
[10:19:57] <@wrbtrader> trailing @ 704.20
[10:20:40] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 705.00 --> + 4.5
[10:20:44] <+werner> vn
[10:23:06] <+pat255> S not working for me try 2 paper trades all stopped
[10:23:30] <+pat255> so now look for l side only
[10:28:16] <kman1969> good morn ...
[10:29:34] <@wrbtrader> Good morning kman
[10:29:54] <@wrbtrader> We got some decent volatility this morning
[10:30:38] <+pat255> y u did well on that N
[10:30:58] <+pat255> now seems L side is the play
[10:43:44] <winmax60> good morning everyone!!!
[10:45:28] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[11:41:12] <+pat255> k guys back to office ty all
[11:48:12] <@wrbtrader> missed 705 short signal :(
[11:48:45] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 704.20 -> small size
[11:48:50] <@wrbtrader> 1 contract
[11:48:52] <@wrbtrader> intuition
[11:50:55] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 704.50 -> Add
[11:51:03] <@wrbtrader> 2 contracts
[11:53:31] <@wrbtrader> :(
[11:55:05] <@wrbtrader> big volatility spike
[11:55:10] <@wrbtrader> something is going on
[11:55:35] <@wrbtrader> Next key market event is not until 1:30pm est
[11:56:10] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 700.30 --> + 8.1
[11:57:38] <@wrbtrader> +4.2 on 2 contracts and +3.9 on the original 1 contract
[12:10:40] <@wrbtrader> I couldn't find anything on twitter or financial networks that would explain the recent BIG volatility spike that took prices down
[12:11:28] <@wrbtrader> Other than some networks saying "trade balance was unexpectantly narrow".
[12:11:48] <@wrbtrader> They said it via the "Breaking News" headline
[12:12:15] <+winmax60> yeap... :-(
[12:12:29] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[12:18:16] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 701.20 -> small size
[12:18:26] <@wrbtrader> 2 contracts
[12:21:32] <@wrbtrader> WRB pt1 reached but couldn't grab an exit
[12:21:46] <@wrbtrader> waiting for a 2nd chance
[12:25:36] <@wrbtrader> price action not looking good now
[12:26:30] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 701.30 --> + 0.1
[12:26:40] * T4N_paper2 is now known as T4N_paper
[12:27:03] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 700.50 -> small size
[12:27:19] <@wrbtrader> 3 contracts
[12:28:23] <@wrbtrader> shallow WRB pt1 reached
[12:28:36] <@wrbtrader> tightening stop loss
[12:30:47] <@wrbtrader> I'm still short after WRB pt1 being reached because of GREED
[12:34:56] <@wrbtrader> support trying to develop
[12:36:15] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 699.70 --> + 0.8
[12:38:44] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 700.40 -> small size
[12:38:51] <@wrbtrader> 1 contract
[12:39:34] <@wrbtrader> Exited Emini TF Long @ 700.00 --> - 0.4
[12:42:19] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 699.20 -> small size
[12:42:30] <@wrbtrader> 1 contract
[12:43:09] <@wrbtrader> WRB pt1 reached
[12:43:55] <@wrbtrader> Exited Emini TF Long @ 700.30 --> + 1.1
[12:45:53] <@wrbtrader> Today is the 3rd time I heard someone that's a floor trader that saids they use Point & Figure charts
[12:50:20] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 700.00 -> small size
[12:50:25] <@wrbtrader> 2 contracts
[12:52:07] <@wrbtrader> shallow WRB pt1 reached
[12:53:49] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 700.80 --> + 0.8
[13:00:30] <@wrbtrader> I didn't intend on being aggressive today in my trady but when that VOLATILITY showed up...I didn't want to miss any of the unexpectant trade opportunities...just wanted to be very active in trading.
[13:08:44] <T4N_paper> short small 702.2
[13:11:03] <+T4N_paper> exit 702
[13:13:58] <+T4N_paper> short small 700.9
[13:15:45] <+T4N_paper> exit 700.5
[13:16:53] <+T4N_paper> was looking for those stops to be taken out
[13:23:10] <@wrbtrader> Fed Chairman Bernanke speech coming around the corner.
[13:23:59] <+T4N_paper> thanks
[13:24:11] <+T4N_paper> Beige book got me yesterday
[13:26:03] <+T4N_paper> anyone know of a charting service with servers in europe?
[13:26:35] <@wrbtrader> Prorealtime is located in Europe
[13:26:53] <@wrbtrader> Thus, you may want to look at charting services that are from Europe
[13:27:15] <+T4N_paper> ok thanks
[13:27:44] <+T4N_paper> TOS has no EU servers
[13:27:46] <@wrbtrader> You'll know if they're from Europe because their payment info is in Euro Dollar :)
[13:29:36] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 700.60 -> small size
[13:29:40] <@wrbtrader> 1+1
[13:30:20] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 701.60 --> - 1
[13:30:39] <@wrbtrader> volatility spike
[13:30:53] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 701.20 -> small size
[13:31:01] <@wrbtrader> 1+1
[13:31:22] <+T4N_paper> short small 700
[13:31:26] <@wrbtrader> intuition on the re-entry after the prior pick pocketed of my stop
[13:32:32] <@wrbtrader> WRB pt1 reached
[13:33:29] <+T4N_paper> exit 697.5
[13:35:38] <+T4N_paper> that was a big fast news reaction
[13:38:24] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 699.50 --> + 1.7
[13:40:00] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 698.40 -> small size
[13:40:09] <@wrbtrader> 3 contracts
[13:40:20] <@wrbtrader> intuition
[13:40:23] <+T4N_paper> thought about a short at 699.4 as reaction to news
[13:40:44] <+T4N_paper> but i'm done for the day
[13:40:49] <@wrbtrader> shorted the drop back below of the Close of the prior WRB Hidden GAP @ 698.50
[13:41:42] <@wrbtrader> WRB pt1 reached
[13:42:05] <@wrbtrader> Covered 2/3 Emini TF Short @ 696.00 --> + 2.4
[13:42:29] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[13:43:24] <@wrbtrader> A lot of volatility showed up and the FED chairman hasn't even taken the podium just yet
[13:44:12] <@wrbtrader> Covered Remainder Emini TF Short @ 693.70 --> + 4.7
[13:44:26] <+T4N_paper> lol
[13:44:35] <@wrbtrader> FED Chairman just showed up to the podium
[14:11:48] <+T4N_paper> creepen
[14:14:08] <@wrbtrader> Glad I dumped the remainder of that Short position before this "volatility contraction" showed up while Pres. Bernanke is speaking
[14:40:08] <@wrbtrader> Be back later...
[14:40:17] * wrbtrader is now known as wrbtrader_away
[15:09:29] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[15:42:36] * wrbtrader_away is now known as wrbtrader
[15:56:00] <@wrbtrader> 4pm est rush hour traffice coming around the corner
[16:08:16] <@wrbtrader> Take care and see all tomorrow
Session Close: Thurs Sep 07 16:30:01 2011

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The purpose of #FuturesTrades is that it's designed to be a trade journal for documentation purposes only so that members can have a time stamp archive of trades and market commentaries of each trading day so that they can better understand their broker statements from one trade to the next trade when they review their performance numbers on any given trading day.

Further, members are not obligated to educate nor help other members but members are encourage to ask questions about any trades or market commentaries that's posted by others because sometimes the answers contains useful trading tips.

In addition, our primary job in the free chat room is to moderate the room (keep the peace) because with so many members using different trade signal methods along with different opinions about the market...debates or arguments can easily flare up without moderating. In addition, our presence in the chat room is to ensure it's a spam free chat room during trading although these archived chat logs may contain advertisements for guest visitors.

Commonly discussed trading instruments from futures, exchange traded funds and forex currencies:

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Image ICE Emini TF Futures (formerly CME ER2)

Image CBOT mini-sized Dow Futures YM

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Image Eurex Fixed Income Derivatives (futures) BUND, BOBL and Schatz

Image Euronext Futures FTSE-100 and CAC-40

Image CME Futures EuroFX 6E and EC

Image Treasury Futures T-Notes ZT, ZN, ZF and T-Bonds ZB

Image Forex Currencies GbpUsd, EurUsd, EurYen and UsdCad

Image Exchange Traded Funds VXX, DIA, IWM, QQQQ, SPY, BGU, FAS, FAZ, TNA, OIH, XLE and GLD

Image NYMEX Energy Futures Light Crude Oil CL, Brent Crude Oil BRN, e-miNY QM and Natural Gas NG

Image COMEX Metal Futures Gold GC, mini-Gold YG, Copper HG and Silver SI

Image S&P CNX NIFTY Futures

Image Hang Seng Index Futures HSI and mini-Hang Seng MHI

Also, to prevent the usual mix-up about our different chat rooms, most of our fee-base clients do not use chat rooms just like most retail traders do not use chat rooms. Yet, the few clients that do use chat rooms, our fee-base clients are discussing market analysis or price action only trade signals via concepts from our strategies in the private chat rooms called #VolatilityTradingTSL or #SwingTradingTSL and they're not allowed to do such in #FuturesTrades.

Reminder, our Terms of Use (TOU) Policy is a must read to prevent any misunderstandings along with revealing that #FuturesTrades is a serious professional trading chat room and we expect members to act professional. Also, these logs may have been edited (rarely) to remove any messages that a member has complained to me via private message that they consider a particular commentary to be inappropriate, offending or too far in the off topic area that's a distraction when the commentary was posted.

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