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 Post subject: September 16th Friday - Futures, ETFs and Forex Currencies
 Post Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 9:43 pm 
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Session Start: Fri Sep 16 09:02:49 2011
Session Ident: #FuturesTrades
[09:02:49] * Now talking in #FuturesTrades
[09:02:49] <@X> [NihabaAshi] chat room archives @ viewforum.php?f=20
[09:21:24] <@wrbtrader> Good morning all
[09:21:56] <kman1969> gm wrb
[09:27:43] <Trendtrader> gm all
[09:29:54] <@wrbtrader> FYI - Eurex and Euronext futures contract rollover
[09:31:30] <+Trendtrader> Long TF @ 712.5 «« simulator »»
[09:34:26] <pat255> gm all
[09:35:47] <+kman1969> gm pat
[09:36:01] <+pat255> gm kman others'
[09:36:24] <+Trendtrader> Exited 1/2 TF Long @ 713.9 --> + 1.4 «« simulator »»
[09:37:12] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 713.80 -> large size
[09:37:21] <@wrbtrader> 2+2+2
[09:38:38] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 712.80 --> - 1
[09:38:57] <+pat255> ;ate settle in ...@office :(
[09:39:57] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 713.00 -> large size
[09:40:05] <@wrbtrader> 3+1+2
[09:40:08] <@wrbtrader> average
[09:40:23] <+Trendtrader> Exited Remainder TF Long @ 712.9 --> + 0.4 «« simulator »»
[09:40:25] <@wrbtrader> very choppy
[09:40:40] <+pat255> looks like buy pb
[09:41:51] <@wrbtrader> tighten stop loss
[09:43:27] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 713.30 --> - 0.3
[09:45:00] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 714.30 -> large size
[09:45:38] <+pat255> dangerous to S
[09:45:46] <@wrbtrader> still feels like yesterday :(
[09:46:15] <@wrbtrader> tighten stop loss
[09:47:01] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 714.10 --> - 0.2
[09:47:04] <+pat255> #s in 10m
[09:49:05] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 715.00 -> large size
[09:49:10] <@wrbtrader> average
[09:49:16] <@wrbtrader> 2+3+1
[09:49:47] <@wrbtrader> the chop making it extremely difficult to manage stops
[09:49:58] <@wrbtrader> too afraid to use a "wide stop"
[09:50:11] <+pat255> y especially on S side
[09:51:24] <@wrbtrader> :(
[09:51:40] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 714.20 --> - 0.8
[09:52:33] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[09:53:31] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 714.10 -> large size
[09:53:39] <@wrbtrader> 4+2
[09:54:32] <@wrbtrader> more resistance showing up
[09:56:16] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 713.10 --> - 1
[09:56:32] <+pat255> :(
[09:58:03] <+pat255> consumer sentiment rises to 57.8
[09:59:07] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 713.00 -> large size
[09:59:15] <@wrbtrader> 2+2+2
[09:59:21] <@wrbtrader> tighten stop loss
[10:00:24] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 712.20 --> + 0.8
[10:01:38] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 712.30 -> large size
[10:02:23] <+pat255> l 1209 es paper
[10:02:41] <@wrbtrader> :(
[10:03:17] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 711.40 --> + 0.9
[10:03:27] <@wrbtrader> Wow...
[10:04:08] <@wrbtrader> Back to back trades where the price was 4 - 5 ticks away and instantly TOOK my trail stop as soon as I adjusted it to profit
[10:04:10] <@wrbtrader> :(
[10:05:33] <+pat255> put -1
[10:05:37] <+pat255> out
[10:15:35] <+pat255> s get creamed again
[10:20:22] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 713.40 -> large size
[10:20:33] <@wrbtrader> 2+2+2
[10:23:28] <@wrbtrader> tighten stop loss
[10:23:58] <@wrbtrader> trailing @ profit (first time I've had enough time to say that)
[10:24:39] <+pat255> nice
[10:24:51] <@wrbtrader> WRB pt1 reached (first time today for me)
[10:25:45] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 711.30 --> + 2.1
[10:26:18] <+pat255> vn
[10:27:43] <@wrbtrader> Profitable for the day for the first time especially after starting my day with 5 consecutive losing trades
[10:27:57] <+pat255> y was too choppy
[10:28:12] <@wrbtrader> It still is "too choppy" :(
[10:29:00] <@wrbtrader> This has to be one of the WORST trading day combo (Thurs and Fri) of a Quadruple Witching week I've ever experienced involving this type of price action.
[10:29:25] <+pat255> y it had been choppy 1st hr crazy
[10:29:26] <@wrbtrader> It's so "consistent" through out the trading day that's so problematic
[10:29:52] <+pat255> hurdle is getting to the 1206 level on the ES ... well we are currently 'tickling' those levels but the bears need now to take it below if they are to win this current battle with the bulls
[10:31:51] <+kman1969> def looking forward to next week
[10:50:01] <intowin> Long Emini YM @ 11358
[11:01:18] <@wrbtrader> Now everything is nicely in sync with each other...
[11:01:40] <@wrbtrader> Hopefully the volatility can continue without any of that crappy chop
[11:01:48] <+intowin> Exited all Emini YM Long @ 11368 --> + 10
[11:02:16] <T4N_paper> are you holding an open position Mark?
[11:18:41] <@wrbtrader> T4N...no
[11:19:04] <@wrbtrader> Dallasm...I sent you a reply to your pm at the TSL forum
[11:20:25] <@wrbtrader> By the way, I want to expand on a question asked in here yesterday about "reasonable fills via market orders" in volatile trading instruments like Emini TF futures or others like the Eurex DAX, EuroFX 6E et cetera...
Quote:
[11:21:26] <@wrbtrader> If you're going to trading in high volatilty price actions...I don't recommend market orders until you become very familiar with the price aciton (may take a few months)

[11:22:33] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
Quote:
[11:23:17] <@wrbtrader> If you're going to use market orders...try to Short on Upticks or Long on Downticks to reduce the odds of poor fills far away from what you saw as you were clicking the button.

[11:26:40] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 705.90 -> small size
[11:26:56] <@wrbtrader> 3 contracts
[11:27:06] <@wrbtrader> that was a market order on upticks
[11:28:05] <@wrbtrader> support showing up
[11:29:09] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 706.40 --> - 0.5
[11:29:36] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 707.20 -> small size
[11:29:46] <@wrbtrader> 3 contracts
[11:30:37] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 707.00 --> - 0.2
[11:31:00] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 706.40 -> small size
[11:31:04] <+T4N_paper> was that a mkt out or stop hit?
[11:31:08] <@wrbtrader> 3 contracts
[11:31:20] <@wrbtrader> stop hit
[11:31:32] <+T4N_paper> thanks
[11:32:05] <@wrbtrader> tighten stop loss
[11:32:58] <@wrbtrader> Only reason why I'm profitable today so far is because of what happen yesterday...today I'm tightening my stops FAST soon after entry
[11:33:56] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 706.70 --> - 0.3
[11:35:47] <@wrbtrader> I've concluded that whenever volatility shows up...it becomes extremely CHOPPY and that's usually a sign of a "coming storm" in the market if it stays consistent a few more days.
[11:36:14] <@wrbtrader> Meant that if volatility shows up and it results in CHOP...it's a sign of a pending storm in the markets
[11:36:54] <+T4N_paper> A good volatility storm?
[11:37:02] <@wrbtrader> YES
[11:37:22] <@wrbtrader> Good for the traders but BAD for the economy
[11:37:33] <@wrbtrader> Eventually bad for everybody
[11:38:19] <+T4N_paper> I'm just here to capitalise on the moves
[11:39:20] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 707.20 -> medium size
[11:39:31] <@wrbtrader> 2+1+1
[11:40:06] <@wrbtrader> tighten stop loss
[11:40:47] <@wrbtrader> important trade for me because I'm back to breakeven for the day
[11:42:21] <@wrbtrader> trail @ breakeven
[11:42:30] <@wrbtrader> trailing @ profit
[11:43:40] <@wrbtrader> WRB pt1 reached
[11:44:22] <+pat255> vn
[11:45:57] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 709.40 --> + 2.2
[11:46:24] <+pat255> wd
[11:46:29] <+T4N_paper> yeah
[11:46:43] <+T4N_paper> squeezed a lot out of it
[11:55:48] <+pat255> k guys later ..lunch and meetings
[11:56:13] <+T4N_paper> seeya
[12:25:09] <+T4N_paper> VXX acting odd
[12:28:51] <@wrbtrader> volatility contraction but understandable and without that weird pin ball machine chop
[12:30:41] * wrbtrader is now known as wrbtrader_lunch
[12:49:34] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[13:18:59] <+intowin> Shorts Emini YM @ 11420
[13:35:47] <+intowin> Covered all Emini YM Short @ 11392 --> + 28
[13:36:17] * wrbtrader_lunch is now known as wrbtrader
[13:36:38] <@wrbtrader> just return to see growing volatility...
[13:36:48] <@wrbtrader> please volatility...don't go away :)
[13:38:32] <@wrbtrader> support failure
[13:40:11] * intowin is now known as intowinafkb
[13:43:12] <@wrbtrader> support strengthning
[13:44:48] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 705.80 -> small size
[13:45:01] <@wrbtrader> 2+1
[13:46:55] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 705.50 --> - 0.3
[13:47:21] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 705.20 -> small size
[13:47:27] <@wrbtrader> 3 contracts
[13:47:30] <@wrbtrader> same trade
[13:50:18] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 704.90 --> - 0.3
Session Close: Fri Sep 16 13:50:39 2011

Session Start: Fri Sep 16 13:50:39 2011
Session Ident: #FuturesTrades
[13:50:39] * Disconnected
[13:52:13] * Attempting to rejoin channel #FuturesTrades
[13:52:24] * Rejoined channel #FuturesTrades
[13:52:24] <@X> [NihabaAshi] chat room archives @ viewforum.php?f=20
[13:52:40] <@wrbtrader_away> got some connection problems
[13:53:00] * wrbtrader_away is now known as wrbtrader
[13:58:09] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 705.50 -> medium size
[13:58:23] <@wrbtrader> 2+2
[14:00:12] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 705.50 --> 0
[14:00:41] <@wrbtrader> It shook me out but that's ok
[14:00:54] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 706.00 -> medium size
[14:01:06] <@wrbtrader> 2+2
[14:01:15] <+T4N_paper> just going to try again i see
[14:01:46] <@wrbtrader> If I can control the losses in this particular price action...I'll continue trying
[14:02:17] <@wrbtrader> tighten stop loss
[14:03:55] <+T4N_paper> i'm in the hole,
[14:04:02] <+T4N_paper> have 1 remainder long from 705
[14:04:06] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 706.20 --> + 0.2
[14:04:08] <+T4N_paper> it will make or break me
[14:04:28] <@wrbtrader> One bad trade and I'll too be in the hole
[14:05:32] <@wrbtrader> That was a tough Longs to hold...had 4 good tries at it :(
[14:06:10] <+T4N_paper> mine came to 1 tick of a stop out
[14:07:55] <+T4N_paper> twice, one neg one slightly pos
[14:11:11] <+T4N_paper> Resistance
[14:14:22] <+T4N_paper> that was my best hold all week, still in a commission hole
[14:18:20] <+T4N_paper> If that is what it is going to take to get me positive, man o man
[14:18:42] <+T4N_paper> tons of stop luck and best holds
[14:19:34] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[14:31:24] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 706.30 -> small size
[14:31:41] <@wrbtrader> 2 contracts
[14:31:50] <@wrbtrader> tighten stop loss
[14:32:15] <@wrbtrader> :(
[14:32:44] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 706.50 --> - 0.2
[14:33:15] <@wrbtrader> not sure how I messed up the entry
[14:33:29] <@wrbtrader> missed another Long opportunity
[14:46:46] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 707.90 -> small size
[14:46:52] <@wrbtrader> 2+1
[14:48:08] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 708.10 --> - 0.2
[14:48:53] <@wrbtrader> maybe my stop adjustments are too tight but I'm not willing to gamble and leave it at a wide stop
[14:49:17] <@wrbtrader> Not in this type of price action
[15:14:38] <@wrbtrader> 1432pm est is a key change in supply/demand (WRB Hidden GAP) that I'm watching very closely
[15:15:23] <@wrbtrader> The price action about 5 mins ago bounced off of that price area
[15:37:18] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 707.10 -> small size
[15:37:29] <@wrbtrader> 2 contracts
[15:38:49] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 706.80 --> - 0.3
[15:39:21] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 707.00 -> small size
[15:39:32] <@wrbtrader> 2 contracts
[15:45:30] <@wrbtrader> trailing @ profit and its a WRB pt1 reached
[15:46:35] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[15:48:27] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 709.20 --> + 2.2
[15:49:32] <@wrbtrader> 4pm est rush hour traffic around the corner
[15:52:38] <@wrbtrader> creeping higher
[15:52:55] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 709.80 -> small size
[15:53:06] <@wrbtrader> 2 contracts
[15:54:18] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 709.50 --> - 0.3
[15:54:58] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 710.10 -> small size
[15:55:05] <@wrbtrader> 2 contracts
[15:56:18] <@wrbtrader> WRB pt1 reached
[15:58:18] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 711.10 --> + 1
[16:00:25] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 710.60 -> small size
[16:00:31] <@wrbtrader> 2 contracts
[16:01:59] <@wrbtrader> WRB pt1 reached
[16:02:20] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 713.00 --> + 2.4
[16:05:48] <@wrbtrader> Today 8 winners and 14 losing trades = about $1200 dollars after commissions
Quote:
[16:06:05] <@wrbtrader> Kepted the losers small in comparison to the winners
[16:07:35] <@wrbtrader> Simply, another tough trading day for me but I do understand it was Quadruple Witching week...usually Thurs and Fri are tough trading days for such a week.

[16:22:22] <@wrbtrader> Take care all and have a good weekend
[16:22:30] * wrbtrader is now known as wrbtrader_away
[16:37:47] <+T4N_paper> Thanks for pointing out that zone, I studied it hard just before I left
[16:38:11] <+T4N_paper> I left just before the spike upwards, but it helped me see what you are see
[16:38:13] <+T4N_paper> ing
[16:38:19] <+T4N_paper> night all
[17:16:35] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
Session Close: Fri Sep 16 17:44:26 2011

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