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click on the above image to view today's price action of key markets Session Start: Tue Jul 05 09:19:13 2011
Session Ident: #FuturesTrades
[09:19:13] * Now talking in #FuturesTrades
[09:19:13] <@X> [NihabaAshi] chat room archives @
viewforum.php?f=20[09:20:07] <Tigerman> Good morning all
[09:20:40] <Sambeano> mornin
[09:24:49] <+Sambeano> factory orders at 10 edt
[09:24:56] <@wrbtrader> FYI - There's some major changes (not good as of July 4th) with both my chart vendors that may prevent me from trading...I'm currently looking for an alternative chart provider.
[09:25:24] <pat255>
N
[09:25:32] <+pat255>
about charts
[09:26:22] <@wrbtrader> Yeah...no warning but it looks like the parent company of Qcharts and Futuresource sold those two to Quotemedia.com
[09:26:50] <@wrbtrader> No warning what so ever...not even on the billing statements.
[09:27:51] <@wrbtrader> Symbol changes, exchange deletions, candlestick charts turned into line or dotted charts...horrible.
[09:28:13] <+Tigerman> incredible...!!!!
[09:29:06] <@wrbtrader> I no longer have access to ICE even though I paid in advance for one year !!!!
[09:29:37] <Trendtrader> I noticed something was up with them - I tried that link you sent me last week and it didn't work...
[09:29:51] <@wrbtrader> been online for 2 hours...still on hold
[09:30:38] <+Trendtrader> had to go to quote.com and find the new symbol.
[09:32:19] <@wrbtrader> Only alternative is too downgrade my service to "livecharts" that only allows 4 charts max or upgrade to a eSignal Product of which 2/3 of the stuff I don't need
[09:33:20] <+Trendtrader> Shorts TF @ 837.4 «« simulator »»
[09:33:56] <@wrbtrader> right now...only have quotes of Emini TF and that's via my broker
[09:34:51] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[09:35:04] <+Trendtrader> Covered all TF Short @ 838 --> - 0.6 «« simulator »»
[09:36:33] <+Trendtrader> Shorts TF @ 837.2 «« simulator »»
[09:37:37] <+Trendtrader> Covered 3/4 TF Short @ 836.1 --> + 1.1 «« simulator »»
[09:40:44] <+Trendtrader> Covered Remainder TF Short @ 835.9 --> + 1.3 «« simulator »»
[09:51:05] <+Sambeano> wl lng print 838.7
[09:51:54] <+Sambeano> in box 838.6 - 835.2
[09:53:48] <+Tigerman> Shorts TF @ 837.4
[09:53:49] <+Sambeano> also watching 835 - 840.3
[09:55:07] <+Tigerman> Covered all TF Short @ 838 --> - 0.6
[09:55:52] <+Tigerman> choppy..
[09:59:09] <+Sambeano> factory orders
[09:59:30] <+Tigerman> yes we wait
[10:03:10] <@wrbtrader> Just heard a rumor that the CME and ICE had been giving access to their data no matter how many subscribers that users (e.g. eSignal, CQG, Futuresource, Qcharts) had as subscribers
[10:03:30] <+Sambeano> lng 838.7
[10:08:12] <+Sambeano> stppd 838 -.7
[10:10:11] <+Sambeano> in range since Friday
[10:10:26] <+Sambeano> wl shrt below 835
[10:10:48] <+Sambeano> longs 840.4
[10:15:24] <@wrbtrader> Back to the rumor...
[10:16:22] <@wrbtrader> The chart vendors that were using the exchange data decided to get their data from a third party source instead of from direct route.
[10:16:39] <@wrbtrader> There's something changing in the background
[10:17:17] <@wrbtrader> Basically, as I suspected a few years ago, there will come a point where I subscribe DIRECTLY to the exchange data...using the exchange charts only.
[10:17:50] <@wrbtrader> I'm currently waiting for a tech call from the ICE exchange about their real-time quote/data services
[10:18:11] <@wrbtrader> I sent them an email that I want to subscribe.
[10:20:00] <+Sambeano> shrt 835
[10:20:20] <+Sambeano> 1 pt stp
[10:28:13] <+Sambeano> stppd 836 -1
[10:44:35] <+Sambeano> wl lng print 837.2
[10:49:40] <+Sambeano> nw shrt 835.5
[10:50:58] <+Sambeano> stp 1 pt
[10:54:55] <+Sambeano> stp to 836
[10:58:01] <+Sambeano> stp to 835.5
[10:58:30] <+Sambeano> uot 835.3 +.2
[11:03:55] <+Sambeano> now shrt 835.1
[11:04:18] <+Sambeano> stp 836
[11:04:51] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[11:05:26] <+Sambeano> stp 835.6
[11:08:30] <+Sambeano> out 834,8
[11:08:39] <+Sambeano> +.3
[11:17:26] <+Sambeano> lng 835.7
[11:17:36] <+Sambeano> 1pt stp
[11:18:09] <+Tigerman> I exit bye
[11:19:25] <+Sambeano> stp 835.7
[11:21:24] <+Sambeano> out 836.6 +.9
[11:24:45] <Time4now> short med, 836.1
[11:29:58] <+Time4now> exit all 835.8
[11:30:44] <+Sambeano> Slim Pickins today
[11:32:20] <+Sambeano> now lomg 836.9
[11:39:30] <+Sambeano> stppd 836.1 -.8
[11:43:31] <+Sambeano> lng 837
[11:43:40] <+Sambeano> 1pt stp
[11:55:06] <+Sambeano> stp to 836.7
[11:56:58] <+Sambeano> out 837.2 +.2
[11:57:04] <+Sambeano> yawn
[12:21:22] <+Sambeano> shrt 8376.7
[12:21:29] <+Sambeano> 837.7
[12:34:52] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[12:43:48] <+Sambeano> was stppd out 838.7 -1
[14:03:47] <+Time4now> 2pm shift
[14:04:52] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[14:16:22] <+Time4now> short small 838.5
[14:17:44] <+Time4now> exit 838.2
[14:22:08] <+Time4now> looks like i'm still unable to let profits run
[14:55:55] <@wrbtrader> Anybody in here using the Ninjatrader platform
[14:56:11] <+pat255> not me
[14:59:31] <@wrbtrader> charts at my brokers...suck
[14:59:47] <@wrbtrader> reason why I've always used an indepedent chart provider
[15:03:33] <+pat255> many use Ninja charts and like them
[15:04:29] <+Time4now> I like TOS
[15:04:43] <+Time4now> but its free, and i paper trade
[15:05:56] <@wrbtrader> Time4Now...see discussion in other room
[15:12:17] <+Time4now> short small 838.2
[15:17:34] <+Time4now> exit 838.8...
[15:28:24] <+Sambeano> anybody use ActiveTick?
http://www.activetick.com/[15:31:53] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[15:38:17] * Time4now is now known as t4n_away
[15:57:18] <@wrbtrader> Sambeano...I recognize the charts used heavily by someone at bigmikes trading forum but I don't remember who as in the user name.
[15:58:31] <@wrbtrader> The charts are almost an exact copy of charts by a chart vendor in France back in the late 90's that's no longer around.
[15:58:55] <@wrbtrader> But I do remember them going out of business and the software designers were looking for a buyer.
[15:59:12] <@wrbtrader> Maybe ActiveTick folks purchase the software
[16:01:33] <@wrbtrader> Unfortunately their pricing plans is very deceiving
[16:02:19] <@wrbtrader>
http://www.activetick.com/activetick/co ... icing.aspx[16:02:54] <@wrbtrader> I don't know where they get their info from about RealTick and QCharts but a lot of the info is INCORRECT.
[16:03:29] <@wrbtrader> I know...I was a long time user of RealTick (8 years until last year) and QCharts (since they open shop until today).
[16:10:20] <+Sambeano> interesting
[16:10:43] <+Sambeano> I wonder how reliable the ActiveTick feed is
[16:11:14] <@wrbtrader> I'm calling them right now to see if they give access to particular markets and what's the cost because they are VERY VAGUE at their website.
[16:11:47] <+Sambeano> they offer what appears to be a well rounded api for developers
[16:14:01] <+Sambeano> btw what did ICE say?
[16:14:46] <+Sambeano> cost etc?
[16:15:51] <@wrbtrader> Activetick is currently closed for the day as in you have to leave a message...
[16:16:12] <@wrbtrader> I hate when these types of chart sites don't specifically state what data you'll have access too.
[16:16:14] <@wrbtrader>
[16:19:23] <+Sambeano> wrbtrader have you ever used InvestorRT?
[16:19:47] <+Sambeano> very impressive but packed w everything
[16:21:32] <+Sambeano>
http://www.linnsoft.com/[16:28:42] <@wrbtrader> ICE is only suitable if you're trading "multiple different" trading instruments.
[16:29:26] <@wrbtrader> The fact that I'm currently ONLY trading Emini TF doesn't make sense for me to subscribe to ICE data that will also give me access to other data I don't need.
[16:30:10] <+Sambeano> I C
[16:31:54] <@wrbtrader> To access ICE realtime there's a basic fee of $90 dollars + $65 for access to ICE futures U.S. that would give me access to data/charts on Emini TF futures
[16:33:36] <@wrbtrader> If they offered data to Eurex, U.S. Indices and U.S. Market Breadth info...I would consider them at the top of my list
[16:36:23] <+Sambeano> check out Amp Futures
http://www.ampfutures.com/index.php[16:36:58] <@wrbtrader> Yeah...their only futures
[16:38:28] <@wrbtrader> Meant...they are a broker and they are only futures
[16:38:47] <@wrbtrader> I don't need a broker...I just need access to certain data.
[16:38:49] * t4n_away is now known as t4n
[16:39:45] <@wrbtrader> I think I'm going to move my data source search from the U.S. to Europe...
[16:40:01] <@wrbtrader> There are a few Europe data providers that covers the U.S. markets.
[16:41:15] <@wrbtrader> As for my brokers...I like them...not willing to change even though their charts suck.
[16:42:13] <+Sambeano> too bad about the charts.....weird in fact, like they WANT to alienate their traders
[16:43:03] <+Sambeano> btw, amp caught my eye because they offer Zen-Fire data
[16:45:14] <+Sambeano>
http://www.zen-fire.com[16:50:03] <@wrbtrader> I wonder why futures brokers ONLY offer data on futures and not Indices or Market Breadth info with it
[16:50:48] <@wrbtrader> I've never met a profitable trader that only looks at data of his futures trading instrument and NOTHING else.
[16:52:34] <+Trendtrader> wrb, re-replied in vtr room...
[17:01:53] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[17:02:36] <+Sambeano> gotta run guys, gave a gn
Session Close: Tue Jul 05 19:40:46 2011
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