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 Post subject: June 17th Friday - Futures, ETFs and Forex Currencies
 Post Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 11:49 am 
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Session Start: Fri Jun 17 09:35:13 2011
Session Ident: #FuturesTrades
[09:35:13] * Now talking in #FuturesTrades
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[09:39:08] <Trendtrader> Exited all TF Long @ 782.2 --> - 3 «« simulator »»
[09:46:53] <Maelstrom> good morning all
[09:47:34] <AndyES> gm all
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[09:53:10] <Sambeano> mornin y'all
[09:55:48] <+Maelstrom> gm Sam
[09:56:33] <+Maelstrom> ym long 11973
[09:56:55] <+Sambeano> gm Mael
[09:58:17] <+Maelstrom> stooped out 11970
[10:00:14] <+Maelstrom> 200 pts from yesterday afternoon bottom to top, and I am breakeven on 4 trades so far
[10:00:19] <+Maelstrom> love it :)
[10:03:22] <+Sambeano> rng late, getting situated
[10:05:13] <Warbucks> hey Sam & Mael
[10:05:22] <+Maelstrom> hiya War
[10:06:32] <+Sambeano> mornin
[10:07:14] <+Sambeano> whipping
[10:07:42] <+Sambeano> Mael hv chrt YM wl watch
[10:07:45] <+Sambeano> also
[10:07:58] <+Sambeano> luked at YM last nigt
[10:08:08] <+Maelstrom> good deal
[10:08:11] <+Sambeano> I c why U 10 range
[10:08:22] <+Sambeano> makes sense to me
[10:08:27] <+Maelstrom> nice and clean, isnt it?
[10:08:54] <+Sambeano> from my box POV
[10:09:08] <+Sambeano> many boxes 10 pts high
[10:09:18] <+Sambeano> hence
[10:10:04] <+Sambeano> also I wud use 10pt stp mosly
[10:10:12] <+Sambeano> it all adds up
[10:10:27] <+Sambeano> 10 range
[10:10:48] <+Maelstrom> I use 12 initially, then trail up 2 pts abv/below new bars in direction
[10:10:50] <+Sambeano> i don't hv range bars hr
[10:11:17] <+Sambeano> I c
[10:11:22] <+Maelstrom> what charting pkg do you use?
[10:11:58] <+Sambeano> it's mine
[10:12:11] <+Sambeano> Sambeano charts :)
[10:12:18] <+Maelstrom> lol cool
[10:13:06] <+Sambeano> 788.7 fm overnite and wed
[10:14:38] <+Maelstrom> no more news on caledar for today that I can see
[10:14:53] <+Sambeano> expiry day
[10:15:39] <+Sambeano> us options. mini Dow, others....low impact
[10:16:27] <+Sambeano> U up early Mael?
[10:16:41] <+Maelstrom> around 2am cst
[10:17:07] <+Maelstrom> should have slept in though :)
[10:17:12] <+Sambeano> see the big surge to 7 cst?
[10:17:59] <+Maelstrom> I do, got in around 11930, only +20 though
[10:18:33] <+Sambeano> over 100pts YM!
[10:18:46] <+Sambeano> know why?
[10:19:25] <+Sambeano> I don't
[10:19:45] <+Sambeano> like said rngng late
[10:19:48] <+Maelstrom> only thing I see is strong support from the 10th and 13th
[10:20:31] <+Sambeano> I'm thinking news overnight
[10:21:27] <+Sambeano> 100+ pt mv
[10:22:03] <+Maelstrom> I know! need another one of those today, either dir would be fine :)
[10:22:25] <+Maelstrom> double top possibly
[10:23:13] <+Maelstrom> still looking for longs as long as we stay above 11950
[10:26:37] <+Maelstrom> switching to short bias
[10:31:15] <+Sambeano> 781.3
[10:33:36] <+Maelstrom> sometimes I think I should monitor other markets for perspective
[10:33:44] <+Maelstrom> but I am prone to distraction
[10:34:38] <+Maelstrom> ym pending short 11950 stop 11962
[10:34:59] <+Sambeano> European stocks rose on Friday and were set to snap a sixth straight week of losses on hopes a solution for Greece's debt crisis was looming.
[10:35:23] <+Sambeano> European banks, which have significant exposure to Greece and any potential contagion within the euro zone, advanced, with the STOXX 600 European Banks index up 1.2 percent after hitting a near two-year low the previous session
[10:35:32] <+Sambeano> reuters
[10:35:46] <+Maelstrom> thx Sam
[10:35:48] <+Sambeano> http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/06/ ... 6320110617
[10:35:52] <+Maelstrom> cancl pending
[10:37:38] <+Warbucks> Box strategy making money--- again!
[10:37:52] <+Sambeano> yes
[10:47:10] <+Warbucks> GS new hod
[10:47:59] <+Sambeano> US banks upbeat like Euro brothers?
[10:48:50] <+Warbucks> BANK up 1.2%, S&P Cash up .9%
[10:49:50] <+Sambeano> http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/06/ ... me=topNews
[10:54:33] <+Warbucks> yikes... not a good pic Sam
[10:54:47] <+Warbucks> yikes
[10:55:02] <+Sambeano> yikes
[11:01:44] <Maelstrom> ym short 11982
[11:01:55] <+Maelstrom> late post
[11:06:54] <+Sambeano> frm open box 787.1 - 781.3
[11:09:56] <+Sambeano> overall, so far, luks like it wl resolve thru the bottom
[11:11:35] <+Maelstrom> out 11976
[11:16:39] <+Maelstrom> Sam, War - do you both trade w the same method?
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[11:17:24] <+Sambeano> hard to say
[11:17:55] <+Maelstrom> just noticed both of you referencing boxes
[11:18:04] <+Sambeano> i use boxes and have a scalping strtegy n a longer strategy
[11:18:21] <+Sambeano> i mostly scalp
[11:18:36] <+Sambeano> i think War same
[11:19:00] <+Warbucks> I use box and quick profit targets - scalps
[11:19:12] <+Maelstrom> ym is certainly making a box/horz channel since before the open
[11:19:30] <+Warbucks> I still lack patience...
[11:19:45] <+Maelstrom> that has and is always my biigest struggle also War
[11:20:24] <+Warbucks> the box trategy according to Sam rules yielded well over 5 pts this morning
[11:20:42] <+Warbucks> stategy
[11:20:43] <+Maelstrom> TF?
[11:20:49] <+Warbucks> yes TF
[11:20:52] <+Sambeano> it's hard not to scalp
[11:21:36] <+Maelstrom> wow....$500?
[11:22:03] <+Warbucks> I am up 4 points but I exited early on most and missed the last trade which is up 1.5 pts now
[11:22:58] <+Maelstrom> lol and I am sitting on 5 trades, net 6pts on YM
[11:23:55] <+Sambeano> if I had gotten in here I C scalps fm boxes of: +.9, + 2.7, + 1.1, +.7, +1 so far, ideally, of course
[11:24:11] <+Maelstrom> great job guys
[11:24:41] <+Maelstrom> may have to start drawing some boxes myself :)
[11:24:47] <+Warbucks> I mainly just use 1 CAR
[11:25:00] <+Maelstrom> same here
[11:25:03] <+Warbucks> Mark uses up to 6 CAR's
[11:25:32] <+Maelstrom> think I would have a heart attack with that many
[11:25:58] <+Maelstrom> ym pending short 11969
[11:26:03] <+Warbucks> my goal is to get to at least 3 CAR's with confidence
[11:26:35] <+Maelstrom> yes, hoping to up CARs also some day
[11:26:43] <+Warbucks> wait till you see Mark trade
[11:26:43] <+Maelstrom> the confidence point is the key
[11:26:52] <+Warbucks> its amazing
[11:27:25] <+Maelstrom> certainly looking forward to it
[11:28:20] <+Maelstrom> cxl pending
[11:29:50] <+Sambeano> concentrate on execution, the pos size is irrelevant
[11:30:03] <+Maelstrom> agree completely
[11:30:11] <+Sambeano> even if you trade size like wrbtrader does
[11:30:33] <+Maelstrom> even with hardly any return so far today
[11:30:46] <+Maelstrom> I always feel good sticking to my plan
[11:30:49] <+Sambeano> he has no emotional baggagewith 6 or 1 contract
[11:30:57] <+Warbucks> thanks again for the reminder Sam! so true!
[11:31:37] <+Sambeano> euu this one misbehaving
[11:31:57] <+Warbucks> eliminate emotion and count on methodolgy
[11:32:13] <+Sambeano> execution
[11:32:29] <+Sambeano> everything follows
[11:33:24] <+Maelstrom> that is why I keep my P&L screen hidden
[11:33:36] <+Maelstrom> don't want to see $$ going up and down
[11:33:43] <+Sambeano> tuk small loss here
[11:33:49] <+Maelstrom> focus on the price and method only
[11:34:00] <+Sambeano> wait fr next box
[11:34:16] <+Sambeano> DOM still looks weighted dwn
[11:34:32] <+Sambeano> to me :)
[11:35:08] <+Sambeano> big box will tell :)
[11:35:48] <+Maelstrom> ym short 11964
[11:39:14] <+Warbucks> could be sideways from here being Friday
[11:39:49] <+Maelstrom> looking like it
[11:40:25] <+Warbucks> looking to go with big box break if it happens though
[11:41:20] <+Warbucks> BANK is not giving up anything... still at highs
[11:46:19] <+Warbucks> looking at DT line on GOOG taking it to 470 area
[11:47:42] <+Sambeano> yes big box defined by 10:15 est and been in it since, DOM now luks weighted to the up side, fwiw
[11:49:29] <+Sambeano> just watching now
[11:49:46] <+Sambeano> might shrt print 783.9
[11:50:22] <+Warbucks> according to fib guy, if bulls win this battle... 1443 ES target!
[11:51:05] <+Warbucks> if bears win... look out below!
[11:52:38] <+Sambeano> only way I could predict 1443 up is by ignoring a lot of Res lines :)
[11:52:58] <+Warbucks> FWIW... lol
[11:53:51] <+Warbucks> his track record this last week hasnt been so swell... but this market has been schizo
[11:55:11] <+Warbucks> probably is best to stay out or really minimize during rollover week
[11:55:37] <+Sambeano> this mkt has been doing what it ALWAYS does :)
[11:57:14] <+Warbucks> lol... true
[11:58:18] <+Maelstrom> out -12
[12:19:05] <elf2> spx dropped down outta a 5min intrday triangle
[12:32:40] <+Warbucks> nice upper DT line since 6am pst on ES
[12:33:17] <+Warbucks> could see a nice pop if it breaks
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[12:53:07] <+Warbucks> nice break down out of big box
[12:55:53] <+Sambeano> nice
[12:56:07] <+Sambeano> u shrt LA?
[12:59:58] <+Warbucks> I was distracted Sam... missed it
[13:00:21] <+Warbucks> that was picture perfect though
[13:05:48] <+Sambeano> yes
[13:12:11] <+Sambeano> luk back frm 12:20 penetration of that box print 783.9, that box 1 hr duration and at top this mv dwn
[13:14:29] <+Warbucks> yep... had it marked
[13:16:14] <+Sambeano> I as usual not catching the greater mv but scalping
[13:17:54] <+Maelstrom> lol missed it too
[13:18:18] <+Warbucks> Nasdaq Composite getting spanked
[13:20:45] <+Warbucks> TF looking for overnight lows
[13:21:10] <+Warbucks> 4 pt move out of big box
[13:21:32] <+Sambeano> yes
[13:28:35] <+Warbucks> long this local box break
[13:28:42] <+Warbucks> tight stop
[13:29:39] <+Warbucks> TF
[13:30:19] <+Sambeano> I C
[13:32:33] <+Warbucks> out +1.4
[13:32:42] <+Sambeano> nice
[13:33:11] <+Warbucks> should have held for 2!
[13:35:52] <+Maelstrom> nice
[13:43:32] <@wrbtrader> FYI - Stock discussion "not allowed" in here unless it relates to the price action of Futures. Folks have been banned for continuing to ignore that BIG RULE.
[13:44:10] <@wrbtrader> It prevents the spammers from showing up in here because they have AUTO BOTS looking for symbol discussions.
[13:44:25] <+Warbucks> sorry Mark wont happen again
[13:45:04] <@wrbtrader> No problem...I use to allow it but found myself spending too much time getting rid of the auto bot spammers.
[13:45:25] <+Warbucks> understood
[13:48:38] <@wrbtrader> Take care all...I'm done with doing a ton of personal stuff involving my family.
[13:48:54] <@wrbtrader> See all on Monday and I'll be back to normal trading.
[13:49:02] * wrbtrader is now known as wrbtrader_away
[13:51:51] <+elf2> is reference the extreme tick readings allowed?
[13:54:19] <+Sambeano> if it"relates to the price action of Future"
[13:59:12] <+Maelstrom> ok guys, Im out of here
[13:59:22] <+Maelstrom> have a great weekend, and talk to you next week
[13:59:32] <+Sambeano> see ya Mael
[13:59:37] <+Warbucks> you too Mael
[13:59:39] <+Sambeano> hv g 1
[14:04:04] <+Sambeano> last hour cruising just below the 780 area, the 780 area, the 780 area, the 780 area, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzaaaaaaaaatttt
[14:04:52] <+elf2> rut lagging the slight spx bounce off the lod
[14:05:00] <+Warbucks> nice local box developing Sam
[14:05:29] <+Sambeano> yes 778.4 776.6
[14:07:01] <+Sambeano> t day over 100 here in Austin!
[14:07:07] <+Sambeano> 12th
[14:09:52] <+Sambeano> 776.5 rather
[14:14:26] <+Sambeano> test
[14:16:37] <+elf2> i dipped 1 toe in 6/24 iwm 78C
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[14:18:11] <+Warbucks> long break
[14:18:24] <+Sambeano> yeeeehaaa!
[14:18:45] <+Sambeano> nother busts outta the pen
[14:20:50] <+Warbucks> im out... quick scalp put me over 5 points
[14:21:15] <+Warbucks> now lets see if she has legs
[14:22:34] <+Warbucks> still long Rut ETF from that break
[14:23:00] <+Warbucks> stop at low of day
[14:26:49] <+Warbucks> can we break 780.6.....
[14:27:27] <+Sambeano> yes!
[14:28:02] <+Warbucks> lol... yes we can...
[14:28:53] <+Warbucks> yeehaaaa! as Sam would say
[14:29:47] <+Sambeano> :)
[14:32:16] <+Warbucks> stop to break even
[14:34:39] <+elf2> if ndx can get up thru 2200 maybe it can try for 2210
[14:38:10] <+Sambeano> bouncing off 780 area 3rd time since 13:00 est
[14:39:10] <+Sambeano> 780 area = ~780 - ~783
[14:39:48] <+Sambeano> we rode the top tis am then broke dwn
[14:40:14] <+Sambeano> nw have taken to bouncing off the lower line
[14:40:16] <+Warbucks> so much for 780.6 holding up for now anyways
[14:43:20] <+Sambeano> beware of the dreaded 780 area
[14:45:10] <+Warbucks> im out :(
[14:45:10] <+Sambeano> yeeehaaaaa!
[14:45:27] <+Warbucks> was hoping to hold on....
[14:45:52] <+Warbucks> best not to hope in this business :)
[14:46:21] <+Sambeano> the thing is, there are boxes all day long
[14:46:33] <+Sambeano> most well behaved breaks
[14:46:43] <+Sambeano> it adds up
[14:47:19] <+Sambeano> most have well behaved breaks
[14:51:11] <+Warbucks> ok lets try it again
[14:51:58] <+Warbucks> 4th try
[14:59:06] <+Sambeano> 778.4 dwn
[14:59:58] <+Sambeano> 780.1 up but beware, keep a tight rope on it
[15:02:38] <+Sambeano> btw those are the box lines prnt 1 tck avove/below
[15:02:55] <+Sambeano> can't type
[15:02:59] <+Warbucks> yep
[15:03:21] <+Warbucks> yep to the print not the type thing :)
[15:03:30] <+Sambeano> both lol
[15:05:21] <+Sambeano> box almost 30 min
[15:05:40] <+Warbucks> for market being up... sure feels down
[15:07:36] <+Sambeano> slow
[15:07:44] <+Sambeano> watch
[15:08:42] <+Sambeano> slow break
[15:09:16] <+Sambeano> yeehaa as opposed to yeeeeeeeehaaaaaa
[15:13:41] <+Warbucks> nice breakdown
[15:19:16] <+Warbucks> through overnight lows and bounce off low tick
[15:29:34] <+Sambeano> have line back a week now at 775.5, shud have mentioned
[15:33:16] <+Sambeano> since last Friday we've been basically sideways, I try to look back like DOM to discern areas of S/R
[15:35:31] <+Sambeano> I see the dreaded 780 - 783 area
[15:35:36] <+Sambeano> 775.5
[15:35:39] <+Sambeano> 772
[15:35:43] <+Sambeano> 770.....
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[15:59:10] <+Warbucks> have a great wknd Sam
[15:59:16] <+Warbucks> gn all
[15:59:17] <+Sambeano> you too
[16:59:20] <Sambeano> ctrl+k8,4Long TF @test Contracts
[17:01:41] <+Sambeano> test
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Reminder, our Terms of Use (TOU) Policy is a must read to prevent any misunderstandings along with revealing that #FuturesTrades is a serious professional trading chat room and we expect members to act professional. Also, these logs may have been edited (rarely) to remove any messages that a member has complained to me via private message that they consider a particular commentary to be inappropriate, offending or too far in the off topic area that's a distraction when the commentary was posted.

Note: All logs regardless to their location at TheStrategyLab.com website are eastern standard time.

Best Regards,
M.A. Perry
Trader and Founder of WRB Analysis (wide range body/wide range bar analysis)
Price Action Trading (no technical indicators)
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