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 Post subject: April 20th Wednesday - Futures, ETFs and Forex Currencies
 Post Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 5:19 pm 
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Session Start: Wed Apr 20 09:23:34 2011
Session Ident: #FuturesTrades
[09:23:34] * Now talking in #FuturesTrades
[09:23:34] <@X> [NihabaAshi] chat room archives @ viewforum.php?f=20
[09:30:31] <pat255> gm all
[09:30:49] <Trendtrader> Long TF @ 834.8 «« simulator »»
[09:31:29] <+Trendtrader> Exited 1/2 TF Long @ 835.8 --> + 1 «« simulator »»
[09:31:50] <+Trendtrader> Exited Remainder TF Long @ 834.9 --> + 0.1 «« simulator »»
[09:35:50] <+Trendtrader> Shorts TF @ 834 «« simulator »»
[09:37:03] <+Trendtrader> Covered 1/2 TF Short @ 834 --> 0 «« simulator »»
[09:38:53] <+Trendtrader> Long TF @ 834.2 «« simulator »»
[09:39:25] <Tigerman> hi all
[09:39:36] <+Tigerman> Long TF @ 834.2 «« simulator »»
[09:41:20] <+Tigerman> Exited all TF Long @ 833.4 --> - 0.8 «« simulator »»
[09:41:36] <+Tigerman> Shorts TF @ 833.4 «« simulator »»
[09:42:09] <+Tigerman> Covered 1/2 TF Short @ 832.8 --> + 0.6 «« simulator »»
[09:44:03] <+Tigerman> Covered Remainder TF Short @ 832.5 --> + 0.9 «« simulator »»
[09:44:32] <+Tigerman> Long TF @ 833.3 «« simulator »»
[09:44:41] <+Tigerman> intuition
[09:45:13] <+Tigerman> Exited 1/2 TF Long @ 833.6 --> + 0.3 «« simulator »»
[09:45:13] <+Trendtrader> Long TF @ 833.2 -> Add «« simulator »»
[09:46:10] <+pat255> looks like L side is the play
[09:46:16] <@wrbtrader> Anybody notice the odd price action between the Emini TF and the RUT Index ?
[09:46:37] <+Tigerman> Exited Remainder TF Long @ 833.3 --> 0 «« simulator »»
[09:48:51] <+Tigerman> hi wrbtrader do ya mean Tf go down while RUT go up?
[09:49:42] <+Tigerman> if you consider the open
[09:49:53] <+pat255> Home sales coming up
[09:51:22] <+Tigerman> yes pat news in some minutes
[09:52:26] <@wrbtrader> Tigerman...yes
[09:52:49] <@wrbtrader> It's rare to see that but evenually they catch up to each other
[09:53:04] <+Tigerman> if one have to bet I say existing home is lower than forecast
[09:53:22] <+Tigerman> yep wrbtrader sometimes it does..
[09:54:19] <Sidhartha> Interesting... I'm on another room at the moment too... where there is live commentary of the trading... the guy running it reckons all these little upticks everytime the market falls slightly is a 'vwap algo'...
[09:54:20] <@wrbtrader> rising Oil prices, rising food prices, rising cost of living will often lead to inflation and "eventually" that will show up in most Home or Housing Report
[09:54:26] <+Tigerman> consider I use IB and no have RUT index but a TF index and anytime start with a long candle in 1 min frame ....umh
[09:54:46] <@wrbtrader> Inflation usually leads to interest rate adjustments too
[09:54:54] <+Sidhartha> i.e. everytime the market sells an algorithm is buying to average down in an attempt to match or better vwap...
[09:55:29] <+Tigerman> interesting sid
[09:56:04] <+Tigerman> yeo inflation is a concern infact BCE rise interest rate and euro benefit
[09:56:42] <+Sidhartha> we got 4.5% inflation in the UK... however, much of that is imported and kind of a spike in the rate...
[09:56:54] <+Sidhartha> they think it will come down to around 2.5% medium term
[09:57:26] <+Sidhartha> but it does beg the question, what do you about inflation...? Given than most of it is global... what's the point of raising rates
[09:57:42] <+Tigerman> I noted averytime REAL inflaction is higher than key BCE key rate so fight infat is very hard
[09:57:53] <+Sidhartha> the western countires are now importing inflation from asia when we were inporting deflation from them for a decade...
[09:58:23] <+Tigerman> yes deflkaction from electronic
[09:58:38] <+Tigerman> and inflation for fuel and food
[09:58:53] <@wrbtrader> [09:57:26] <+Sidhartha> but it does beg the question, what do you about inflation...? Given than most of it is global... what's the point of raising rates
[09:59:13] <@wrbtrader> Yeah...that's a huge concern.
[09:59:33] <+Tigerman> what is alarming is emerging country have food prices very high similar in western country
[09:59:48] <@wrbtrader> Tigerman...scary
[10:00:31] <+Tigerman> yes I have friends in latin america and asia big problem for family
[10:00:33] <@wrbtrader> Heck...here in Canada I've just started seeing some "big jumps" in certain food products.
[10:00:43] <+Tigerman> also for westerns want to retire there
[10:00:58] <@wrbtrader> My favorite can of Cashews jumped from 4.84 to 6.72
[10:01:19] <@wrbtrader> I've never seen food spikes like that before...never.
[10:01:23] <+Tigerman> yep almost 50%
[10:01:49] <@wrbtrader> That's just one food produce out of dozens of stuff I normally buy that all contain price spikes.
[10:01:52] <+Tigerman> retail seller are protecting income
[10:01:57] <+Trendtrader> Exited 3/4 TF Long @ 833.9 --> + 0.7 «« simulator »»
[10:02:31] <+Sidhartha> just too many people on the planet relative to resources...
[10:02:40] <+Tigerman> simply QE from central banks are destroing money value
[10:03:06] <+Sidhartha> actually, for a long time agricultural technology stopped developing because we had excess food - at least here in the west...
[10:03:12] <+Tigerman> but with this trick they light up the BIG public and private debt
[10:03:29] <@wrbtrader> I then immediately bought 5 big bags of Basmati rice 9.50 and one bag usually last me about 6 months.
[10:03:29] <elf2> i scalped $60 off 1 spx 4/21 1330P
[10:04:01] <@wrbtrader> The next day the price of the bag of rice jumped from 9.50 to 12.75
[10:04:14] <+Sidhartha> jeez
[10:04:33] <+Tigerman> canadian dollar right?
[10:04:40] <@wrbtrader> Yes
[10:05:05] <+Tigerman> in US $ how much ?
[10:05:15] <+Sidhartha> overnight gaps like last night... who are the buyers? surely big commercial buyers wouldn't buy in a low volume session like globex... so who is it? locals? retail? hedge funds...?
[10:05:37] <+Tigerman> who know?
[10:06:08] <+Tigerman> also unlucky shorter ready to cover
[10:07:15] <+elf2> anyone fading this gap
[10:07:51] <+Sidhartha> earlier for a very small turn... but not since no follow through
[10:08:13] <+Sidhartha> seems they wanna test the overnight highs at least
[10:10:33] <+Trendtrader> elf2, I attemped to at 9:35, but got cold feet and exited at BE. Would have worked out ok, but longer term I was bullish and was concerned about a quick bullish run up and being stuck short.
[10:15:15] <+Trendtrader> Exited Remainder TF Long @ 836.2 --> + 2 «« simulator »»
[10:16:57] <+Tigerman> rising price action in contracted volatility just follow the trend
[10:21:53] <+Tigerman> crude oil news in some minutes
[10:22:32] <+Tigerman> if this not shake markets better go sleep or tennis if plan the second option
[10:23:22] <@wrbtrader> Key markets wasted no time today in getting about that big gap down day of Monday
[10:23:31] <@wrbtrader> about = above
[10:23:35] <+elf2> c'mon retrace
[10:26:29] <+Sidhartha> TF failing at overnight high at the moment
[10:28:29] <+Tigerman> price moving but very glued
[10:34:04] <+elf2> rut hit prev swing hi 838
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[10:38:52] <+elf2> the spy looks like it wants to rollover, i bot 1 4/21 spy 134P on the last swing hi, gimme some luv
[10:51:50] <+elf2> this is gonna resolve some direction, flip a coin?
[10:52:19] <+elf2> rut trying up
[10:54:14] <+elf2> phnny that the xlf & bkx are retracing off thier swing hi's
[10:54:32] <+Sidhartha> this is a waste of time!
[10:55:00] <+elf2> rkh retracing also
[10:59:47] <Hoff> today is just like yesterday, but different :)
[11:06:40] <+Tigerman> price action is glued in low volatiliy
[11:06:58] <+Tigerman> computers algo at work
[11:07:31] <+Tigerman> also I suspect many traders are in holiday for easter
[11:08:01] <+Tigerman> but in recent time very hard to trade holiday apart
[11:08:17] <+Tigerman> for this reason now I go see all next time :)
[11:08:41] <Time4now> seeya
[11:08:43] <+Sidhartha> see you tiger... good idea. I think I'm off for a run
[11:12:39] <+Sidhartha> these mushroom tops - if that's what develops - are very hard to trade
[11:13:16] <@wrbtrader> That's the funniest explanation I've heard about these types of price action - "mushroom tops".
[11:13:21] <@wrbtrader> Thanks Sid :)
[11:13:51] <+Sidhartha> perfect description!
[11:13:52] <+Sidhartha> ;-)
[11:16:31] <+Time4now> If I had something better to do, I wouldn't be watching this
[11:16:48] <+Time4now> another very large opening gap
[11:17:03] <+Time4now> sapping todays volatility
[11:20:29] <+Sidhartha> I wanna know who the buyer is in an overnight session gap like that... any ideas?
[11:21:10] <+Time4now> it sure was strong
[11:28:19] <+Sidhartha> if you were genuinely looking to accumlate exposure you wouldn't buy in the overnight session would you...?
[11:28:24] <+Sidhartha> it's too illiquid
[11:28:42] <@wrbtrader> I don't know whom are the buyers or sellers in overnight trading session of futures that causes the big gaps on the Indexes at the open...
[11:28:50] <+Sidhartha> I tend to believe it's a big hedge fund looking to cheaply move prices higher... maybe they are long already...
[11:29:10] <@wrbtrader> Yet, usually it's a KEY MARKET EVENT that caused the buyers or sellers to get involved.
[11:29:34] <+Sidhartha> if you were long and wanted to sell higher buying the final 25% in the overnight session is a good way to get prices higher
[11:29:41] <+Sidhartha> I dunno... just speculating
[11:29:55] <@wrbtrader> Sid...I would think too its a Hedge Fund or Bank
[11:30:21] <+Sidhartha> sure... but not a fund... not a LONG term holder is my meaning
[11:30:37] <+Sidhartha> a long term asset allocator just wouldn't buy in the overnight
[11:33:50] <@wrbtrader> Sid...couldn't it be a long term asset allocator in a foreign country?
[11:34:33] <@wrbtrader> Thus, to them it's not the overnight trading session considering they are doing such during their own daytime normal business hours while it's night time in the U.S. markets
[11:56:56] <@wrbtrader> Someone asked me a question about "trade management" at Elitetrader.com, another person via email and then 2 weeks ago via a private message at another forum...
[11:57:18] <@wrbtrader> The following message post sums up how I view/use "trade management" @ http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthrea ... ost3159273
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[12:22:22] <@wrbtrader> We got hit with an unexpected snow storm (white out).
[12:22:25] <@wrbtrader> :(
[12:24:58] <+Sidhartha> wrbtrader, I don't think foreign asset allocator's are that naive to have that much market impact...
[12:25:19] <+Sidhartha> I can only conclude that someone wanted to have that much market impact... for whatever reason
[12:38:56] <+Time4now> tf testing the open
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[13:40:21] <+Time4now> long small 832.5
[13:40:30] <+Time4now> 832.4 that is
[13:41:55] <+Time4now> . exit 832.9
[14:16:41] <+Time4now> long small 833.6
[14:22:28] <+Time4now> . exit 833.8
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[15:18:26] <codehead> AAPL tonight
[15:18:45] <+codehead> NQ hit hod within 2 ticks of April 1 high
[15:19:10] <+codehead> see if Apple can break it out
[15:23:55] <+Time4now> long 834.7
[15:24:51] <+Time4now> .exit 834.8
[15:30:03] <ajax-Soc> L2350, +1, +2, +4.5 out
[15:31:21] <+codehead> nice trade
[15:34:47] <+ajax-Soc> thx....da charts rule.... :))
[15:35:54] <+codehead> Obama administration officials tried to keep S&P rating at ‘stable’
[15:36:43] <+codehead> yeah, i seem to have similar signal to you... except i haven't traded this week or last lol
[15:37:00] <+codehead> well, still busy with details
[15:37:45] <+codehead> almost done, should be able to trade next couple days
[15:42:32] <+ajax-Soc> L2354, +1, +1.25out
[15:52:37] <+codehead> hey, some guys revealed a hidden file on Iphone, since iOS 4, tracks location history
[15:52:49] <+codehead> they have a free app
[15:52:54] <+codehead> plots it on a map
[15:53:14] <+codehead> even before the map filled in (take a long time after zooming to get map details)...
[15:53:31] <+codehead> i could see where i live, and... the path to Vegas lol
[16:00:58] <+ajax-Soc> lol.....man, we all so "1984'd"!!!....lol
[16:02:00] <+codehead> QCOM nice
[16:03:33] <+ajax-Soc> Les 1327.25, +.5, +1, +2out
[16:04:19] <+ajax-Soc> codeh....great on 'events' in life....then ya rockin from both sides... :))
[16:04:46] <+ajax-Soc> glad do not have iphone!!....wear is the reference to this hidden app??
[16:04:52] <+ajax-Soc> code
[16:06:44] <+codehead> sec...
[16:06:49] <+codehead> here's more info:
[16:06:53] <+codehead> and the app
[16:06:58] <+codehead> http://petewarden.github.com/iPhoneTracker/
[16:07:10] <+codehead> based on cell towers, not gps
[16:08:21] <+ajax-Soc> k....will pass it onto folks I know have that phone.....always felt 'funny' about that phone= never wud buy it.....other than that have read some EMF radiation danger articles od that phone & how it acts as a 'hub' when around other ones= makes the EMF/cancer causing frequencies even more!!!....me never going to buy one!!
[16:08:31] <+ajax-Soc> thx
[16:09:46] <+codehead> mmm, i don't feel the emf is a threat, being an electrical engineer
[16:10:34] <+codehead> and anything i've seen that seems to support that notion tends to run at the same statistical rate as the control group
[16:11:07] <+codehead> besides, i love my iphone lol
[16:12:19] <+codehead> but if you're paranoid about being located, all cell companies track you and keep a history
[16:12:52] <+codehead> just that it's not normally stored in the phone
[16:13:18] <+ajax-Soc> actually that is the coverup.....lots of European studies that will curl your toes!!....there is a medai ban on this info, via the very powerful cell phone lobby....I have hundreds of studies that not only verify, but prove the danger they all possess....even home roam phones....is that bad, real!!......I have a begree in 'environmentla & occupational health', along with my 2 docs....so
[16:13:18] <+ajax-Soc> know this topic extremely well, sorry to say at times....
[16:16:49] <+ajax-Soc> this is a mjor study done by this doc....3 year study he was hired to do by the industry, then they gag ordered him not to relase the info....says it all....he is a Proff here at U of WA, so know & have heard him lecture personally & talked w/ him= scary stuff!!! http://www.wave-guide.org/library/lai.html
[16:17:58] <+ajax-Soc> http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=n ... 48&bih=791
[16:18:24] <+codehead> ok i'll check it out... but i have a lot of friends who got into cell phones way before i did, and i just don't see any friends popping up with brain tumors
[16:19:05] <+codehead> that doesn't mean that it doens't raise the risk, but i'd certainly expect that risk to not be very high
[16:19:35] <+ajax-Soc> another good source; http://electromagnetichealth.org/
[16:19:53] <+codehead> i don't even know anyone with a brain tumor, and only one i've known in past10-20 years was a friend of friend, lived in Mexico and I don't spent a good deal of time on a cell phone
[16:20:03] <+codehead> ok
[16:20:53] <+codehead> second, even if it's a problem, using a headphone would drop that small change to incredible small
[16:21:09] <+ajax-Soc> the brain tumor lag time is 5-10 years!!.......there is a flood & plaque of brain tumor cancers occuring right now, that the govt/media/lobbyists are hiding!!.....I have doc surgeon freind even locally telling me the truth & how they cannot talk about it, with threats.......yes that bad!!!
[16:21:28] <+codehead> interesting
[16:22:09] <+ajax-Soc> no, a headphone becomes the antenae & magnifies the EMF by hundreds of %!!....fact.....blue tooth is no beeter, in fact worse!!
[16:22:37] <+codehead> hm, i don't buy that, sorry
[16:22:52] <+codehead> been doing electronics for 40 years
[16:23:05] <+codehead> it can't magnify it
[16:23:08] <+ajax-Soc> Aegis.com has the only offically proved & tested of safe inline EMF block magnets for inline head=phone wires.....I have used them for over 10 years= me no get this nasty rad!!!.... :)
[16:23:14] <+codehead> you'd need a power source
[16:23:20] <+codehead> power doesn't just "increase"
[16:23:37] <+codehead> ok, i'll check it out
[16:23:40] <+ajax-Soc> nothing to buy...the scientific facts are there in literally thousands of studies over the past 10 years
[16:24:30] <+codehead> i mean the headphone amplifying it
[16:24:36] <+codehead> sorry, that's not realistic
[16:24:41] <+ajax-Soc> I do not agrue with folks anymore, as been warning folks for 15 years now, as a doc....so my attitude is, here is that data....do or not do, , @ person has their own ways...
[16:24:54] <+ajax-Soc> realistic has nothing to do with facxtual data :)
[16:25:05] <+codehead> k, believe it you want
[16:25:14] <+ajax-Soc> no belief
[16:25:20] <+codehead> i don't doubt your sassertion abotu cellphones increasing tumors
[16:25:32] <+codehead> but the wired headphone aplifying the effect--no
[16:25:41] <+codehead> not going to happen
[16:25:52] <+ajax-Soc> wired stereo headphones, no....yes no effect
[16:25:53] <+codehead> certainly, you could measure it if it were true
[16:26:11] <+codehead> oh, maybe i misunderstood
[16:26:15] <+ajax-Soc> y
[16:26:19] <+codehead> ok
[16:26:57] <+ajax-Soc> taslking the bluetooth & wired ear peices....that folks think are better & less dangerous, but in fact are many times more dnagerous!!
[16:27:16] <+codehead> i use either the wired headphone (earbuds), or a bluetooth speakerphone, or the phoen on speaker phone
[16:27:42] <+codehead> that is, the bluetooh thingie attaches to the sun visor on the car
[16:27:47] <+codehead> not my head
[16:27:57] <+codehead> son gave it to me recently, pretty cool
[16:28:17] <+codehead> it's jsut a much louder speaker phone than the one built into the iPhone
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[16:29:52] <+codehead> wow NQ
[16:29:57] <+codehead> aapl out
[16:30:38] <+codehead> i don't doubt the part about using a cellphone for years, pressed up to your head for extended period per day being a problem
[16:31:06] <+ajax-Soc> ya know how many discussions & arguements I have had, especially professionally with folks, over the last 15 years?....after I present the facts one after anothe....then generally the least folks say is "well, maybe true, but I can't live wiothoyut them, and...." ....so I give up & let the many die in time. I even buried my best freind 3 years ago from a brain "gliobalstoma" that kileed
[16:31:06] <+ajax-Soc> hiom (just like Keneday).....guess what, on right side of brain/cell phone hand (for both)......there are thousands of cases showing up monthly all over the world......but, folks want ease & fun.....so, my attitude now is to smile & have no sympathy, but los of empathy, when the caner arrives....even with my best freind & held his hand till the end....so i know this all too well
[16:31:07] <+ajax-Soc> professionaly & personally..... :) :(
[16:31:58] <+ajax-Soc> ah, such is Life....we learn, or pay the price....lol
[16:33:48] <+codehead> well, there are many thousand per year that develop brain tumors
[16:34:18] <+codehead> without cellphones
[16:35:17] <+Time4now> the question isn't wether people who develop brain cancer used cellphones. The question is better, how many people who use cellphones develop brain cancer
[16:35:36] <+codehead> one study indicated as much as 3x increase
[16:35:43] <+Time4now> I don't buy the risk
[16:35:51] <+codehead> these kind of studies are notoriously difficult though
[16:36:18] <+codehead> because if you take something that has a 0.2% change (brain tumor), and look at a group...
[16:36:35] <+codehead> the group has to be HUGE in order to have any confidence of a 3x increase
[16:37:21] <+codehead> 0.2% "chance"
[16:37:42] <+Time4now> arent the waveforms that cellphones use too large to cause damage?
[16:38:04] <+codehead> mmm... similar to microwave, but weaker
[16:38:06] <+Time4now> unlike microwave
[16:38:37] <+Time4now> and xray
[16:38:49] <+codehead> not in same range as x-ray, no
[16:41:27] <+codehead> example of problem is such epidemiological studies:
[16:41:46] <+codehead> "red meat causes colon cancer"
[16:42:17] <+codehead> to show this, you have to track thousands of people for a decade or two, and rely on them to be truthful about their diet
[16:42:42] <+codehead> and only a few dozen will devlop colon cancer either way
[16:42:47] <+codehead> so...
[16:42:48] <+Time4now> statistics are easily swayed by people with agendas
[16:43:03] <+codehead> you end up with 69 people getting colon cancer instead of the expected 67
[16:43:22] <+codehead> which is clearly below the noise level of certainty
[16:43:47] <+codehead> yet that's the fact--you hear "red meat causes colon cancer", even though it's not statistically significant
[16:44:17] <+Time4now> makes for a fun article
[16:44:24] <+codehead> (besides, "red meat" in that study included bacon, hot dogs--nay processed meat was considered "red")
[16:44:46] <+codehead> yep
[16:44:57] <+Time4now> would you rather read an article about "statistical insignificant" or "red meat gonna kill ya!"
[16:45:11] <+codehead> I've read that 80-90% of all epidemiological studies can't be repeated
[16:45:13] <+codehead> !!!
[16:45:14] <+ajax-Soc> sorry back....had a call....let me look above now.....
[16:47:52] <+codehead> yeah, time4--the "red meat" thing wasn't even a study about meat--it was a general habit study that was data-mined after the fact by vegan activists lol
[16:48:10] <+Time4now> lol
[16:48:17] <+codehead> looking for a smoking gun
[16:48:18] <+ajax-Soc> radiation is near same as microwave frequency for cell phones....so like putting head in microve, but worse, as is concentrated at a source local; ....the red meat /colon cancer is not the read meat aspoect, it is the grilling & chemical aterations of the surface fats & protiensd when 'charred', that cause the cancer aspect....
[16:48:55] <+codehead> yes, charring organic matter causes carcinogens
[16:49:00] <+ajax-Soc> y
[16:49:00] <+codehead> but happen to chicken too
[16:49:12] <+ajax-Soc> not as much, as the fat is different
[16:49:13] <+codehead> so not really a "red meat" thing
[16:49:17] <+Time4now> so carcinogens taste good?
[16:49:19] <+codehead> ok
[16:49:28] <+codehead> yes they do
[16:49:34] <+codehead> delicious
[16:49:42] <+Time4now> :)
[16:50:04] <+codehead> i had party over the weekend here, grilled up a lot of chicken kababs gf made
[16:50:07] <+ajax-Soc> yup tyhey do....we still grill our steaks & luv them.....just try to least char, & live a health lifestyle, so counter it in other ways....balance in life, but have fun... :))
[16:50:22] <+codehead> yes, agree ajax
[16:51:22] <+codehead> i recognize that when i grill steaks, i could be cooking them a better way, or boiling a chicken, etc... but i keep my body's immune system in good shape in other ways, and i expect it to deal with my extravagances, dam it!
[16:51:33] <+codehead> ;-)
[16:51:33] <+ajax-Soc> like i have a cell phone & have since mid 90's for doc acreer/be got ahold of......but ALWAYS use the hands free talk mode, or the inline EMF blocking device from Aegis.com= counter the cancer threat ... :)
[16:51:55] <+ajax-Soc> http://www.goaegis.com/aegisguard_ls_ra ... ields.html
[16:52:02] <+ajax-Soc> fyi....best on market!!!
[16:52:09] <+codehead> i'll check it out, thx
[16:52:15] <+ajax-Soc> yw
[16:52:50] <+ajax-Soc> ya get the liquid cover= paint cell phone but leave just top clear where the antenae is inside.....then ya golden
[16:54:51] <+codehead> speaking of food--time to eat--catch you guys later ;-)
[16:55:05] <+Time4now> seeya
[16:55:08] <+Time4now> i'm out
[16:55:12] <+Time4now> bye all
Session Close: Wed Apr 20 17:47:50 2011

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