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 Post subject: February 28th Monday - Futures, ETFs and Forex Currencies
 Post Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 5:31 pm 
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#FuturesTrades is free along with being a serious professional trading chat room and any trader can use the chat room to post their trades or commentaries involving futures, exchange traded funds or forex currencies. Further, although our chat room is smaller than the other popular chat rooms...we are the most active chat room in posting trades or market commentaries involving futures, exchange traded funds or forex currencies in comparison to other free chat rooms.

#FuturesTrades is designed to be a trade journal for documentation purposes only so that members can have a real time stamp archive of trades and market commentaries of each trading day so that they can better understand their broker statements from one trade to the next trade when they review their performance numbers on any given trading day.

In addition, we welcome all traders with their own methods or different perspective of the markets to help keep the chat room diversified...posting trades or market commentaries. Also, if you're looking for real-time education in the chat room involving price action only trading (profitably trading without indicators)...you need to contact us to schedule price action only trading real-time discussions. We'll then have one on one (private) real-time price action only trading discussions with you while you're using #FuturesTrades real-time chat room to prevent distractions in the chat room with other members that are using different trading methods in comparison to us. However, you must first download and learn our free study guide at a different forum @ TSL Support Forum * http://www.thestrategylab.com/tsl/forum/viewforum.php?f=5

With that said, thanks for reading the trades or market commentaries that's below and we highly recommend you make reading of the logs a part of your trading routine because you will sometimes find useful trade information not discussed anywhere else online nor in any books if you're not interested in scheduling one on one (private) real-time price action only trading education discussions. To gain access to #FuturesTrades chat room...please follow the instructions @ FTCHAT Support Forum * http://www.thestrategylab.com/ftchat/forum/viewforum.php?f=5

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Session Start: Mon Feb 28 09:23:45 2011
Session Ident: #FuturesTrades
[09:23:45] * Now talking in #FuturesTrades
[09:23:45] <@X> [TheStrategyLab.com] chat room archives @ viewforum.php?f=20
[09:38:46] <JB> NQ short @ 2359.5
[09:40:22] <@wrbtrader> Good morning all
[09:40:53] <Leopard> good morning
[09:41:00] <@wrbtrader> Anybody have an "unusual gap" in there data around 0740am est on the Eminis ???
[09:42:58] <Sidhartha> sort of... very jumpy on 1 min
[09:43:09] <+Sidhartha> chicago pmi in 3 mins
[09:43:12] <Trendtrader> Long TF @ 827.6 «« simulator »»
[09:43:17] <@wrbtrader> Nevermind...one of my data providers is having problems at that time (missing data for abut 10mins while the other did not.
[09:44:41] <+Sidhartha> no
[09:44:44] <+Sidhartha> nothing like that
[09:47:03] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 826.60 -> large size
[09:47:13] <@wrbtrader> :(
[09:47:42] <@wrbtrader> got burnt on a market order...crappy entry...
[09:47:56] <@wrbtrader> I'm having data problems
[09:50:32] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[09:54:27] <+Trendtrader> Long TF @ 826.3 -> Add «« simulator »»
[09:55:47] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 826.50 --> + 0.1
[09:56:42] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 827.00 -> large size
[10:00:48] <@wrbtrader> I can control my own trading problems but data problems is "very frustrating" to me :(
[10:02:54] <+Trendtrader> Exited 1/2 TF Long @ 827.5 --> + 1.2 «« simulator »»
[10:05:37] <+Sidhartha> sideways in TF so far
[10:06:07] <+Trendtrader> Exited Remainder TF Long @ 827 --> - 0.6 «« simulator »»
[10:07:33] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 827.10 --> + 0.1
[10:08:13] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 826.60 -> large size
[10:13:45] <@wrbtrader> all trades today so far have been 6 contracts
[10:14:03] <@wrbtrader> meant, 6 contracts per trade
[10:20:16] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 826.30 --> + 0.3
[10:22:20] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 827.20 -> large size
[10:22:25] <@wrbtrader> 6 contracts
[10:23:25] <@wrbtrader> Had a reverse order in @ 826.20 from the Short into a Long...
[10:23:34] <@wrbtrader> didn't work for some odd reason
[10:24:01] <@wrbtrader> market out of Short and missed the Long
[10:24:28] <@wrbtrader> Hopefully soon something works right today :)
[10:25:00] <+JB> which platform are you using? TOS works fine today
[10:26:02] <@wrbtrader> broker platform is fine as usual
[10:26:20] <@wrbtrader> It's my data vendor that I use to confirm data...that's not fine.
[10:26:26] <@wrbtrader> Futuresource and QCharts
[10:26:51] <+JB> ok. hopefully it gets better soon
[10:29:09] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 826.50 --> - 0.7
[10:30:54] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 826.30 -> medium size
[10:30:59] <@wrbtrader> 4 contracts
[10:31:08] <@wrbtrader> volatility contracting...lowering position size
[10:36:10] <@wrbtrader> overall...range bound
[10:36:44] <@wrbtrader> tighten stop/loss
[10:45:24] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 825.80 --> + 0.5
[11:06:09] <@wrbtrader>
Quote:
Quote from PropTraderMTL:
[11:06:09] <@wrbtrader> ...I'm talking more about coaching. How to improve as a trader. I don't want someone to teach me an edge. I believe I have my edge. I just need to better exploit it. Take my trading to the next level. This is why I asked the second part of the question... have experienced profitable traders taken courses or training that has improved their trading?...

[11:06:09] <@wrbtrader>
Quote:
Quote from PropTraderMTL:
[11:06:09] <@wrbtrader> Yeah like I said in my post I learned through trial and error and then reading books. I have never really read about actual technical trading theory (ie looking for a method)... but more focused on the psychological aspects of trading.
[11:06:09] <@wrbtrader> Are you actively trading? and have you ever taken a course?

[11:06:44] <@wrbtrader> sorry...copy wrong post...will try again
[11:07:03] <@wrbtrader> Emini TF - basically ranging after the big gap to the upside at the open.
[11:07:32] <@wrbtrader> Just tried a twitter script I've designed to post in IRC and Twitter at the same time...
[11:07:40] <@wrbtrader> Still can't get it to work right :(
[11:08:19] <@wrbtrader> At least it doesn't crash my mIRC or trillian program any more after a few fixes
[11:10:29] <@wrbtrader> low volatility range still holding :(
[11:17:33] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[11:30:42] <@wrbtrader> nice increasing volatility spike out of that contraction
[11:31:48] <ajax> thx for call :))
[11:31:49] <@wrbtrader> Emini Tf weak support area
[11:32:15] <@wrbtrader> no calls and no trades in this spike down
[11:32:17] <+ajax> testiung out new inputs, why quiet lately ... :)
[11:32:42] <@wrbtrader> Just finish eating brunch
[11:34:07] <@wrbtrader> Gold and Oil futures still low volatility range since 1015am est
[11:35:43] <+ajax> got a quicki....ss nq 2356, +1, +4out
[11:36:45] <+ajax> 11:20 programs still hitting
[11:38:03] <@wrbtrader> support still trying to find some legs right now
[11:38:36] <Time4now> no posted trades
[11:38:46] <+Time4now> frustrated this morning
[11:39:54] <+ajax> is tuff morn....only 4 trades here so far....generally 10+....oh well....
[11:40:01] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 821.70 -> medium size
[11:40:08] <@wrbtrader> 4 contracts
[11:40:10] <@wrbtrader> intuition
[11:40:40] <+ajax> gfi :)
[11:42:33] <@wrbtrader> Emini TF fighting again for support
[11:48:04] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 822.50 --> - 0.8
[11:49:17] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 822.70 -> medium size
[11:50:29] <+ajax> wrb....what time frame u use for TF trades?
[11:50:40] <@wrbtrader> Any
[11:51:03] <@wrbtrader> I have on my charts 1min, 2min, 3min, 5min and 15min on most days
[11:51:20] <+ajax> k thx
[11:55:44] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 822.90 --> + 0.2
[11:58:19] <+ajax> gg on day like today :))
[11:58:36] <+ajax> slow chop
[12:21:12] <+ajax> man, da markt died...bbl
[12:43:19] <+Time4now> Shorts TF @ 822.2 -> small size «« simulator »»
[12:44:45] <+Time4now> Covered TF Short @ 822.1 --> + 0.1 «« simulator »»
[12:47:33] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[12:47:44] <+Time4now> re-entry missed
[12:55:48] <+Time4now> would have had to chase
[13:24:16] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 817.50 -> medium size
[13:24:27] <@wrbtrader> 4 contracts
[13:24:45] <@wrbtrader> similar setup as a prior short that resulted in a loss
[13:24:51] <@wrbtrader> intuition
[13:33:03] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 816.50 --> + 1
[13:41:04] <+ajax> gk
[13:50:47] <+ajax> bbl
[14:09:10] <+Time4now> Long TF @ 816.5 -> small size «« simulator »»
[14:14:34] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[14:14:44] <+Time4now> Exited TF Long @ 816.9 --> + 0.4 «« simulator »»
[14:26:18] <Sidhartha> oil tanking
[15:29:02] <@wrbtrader> Just got back...a big snow storm here...took forever to do some errands.
[15:30:33] <codehead> "global warming" ;-)
[15:38:06] <+Sidhartha> wrbtrader, any idea why the energy ETF's and Oil often seem to move in totally opposite directions...?
[15:38:29] <+Sidhartha> crude oil futures that is
[15:40:18] <@wrbtrader> Oil futures more sensitve to global crisis events than their buddy the ETF's
[15:40:59] <@wrbtrader> Simply, "much more" speculation in Oil futures than Oil ETFs
[15:44:12] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 819.30 -> small size
[15:44:18] <@wrbtrader> 3 contracts
[15:44:34] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[15:51:50] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 819.80 --> - 0.5
[15:52:04] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 819.10 -> small size
[15:52:06] <@wrbtrader> that didn't go well
[15:52:16] <@wrbtrader> 3 contracts
[15:52:27] <@wrbtrader> intuition into the 4pm est rush hour traffic
[15:53:31] <@wrbtrader> correction
[15:53:44] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 820.10 -> small size
[15:53:49] <@wrbtrader> not 819.10
[16:00:09] <@wrbtrader> Exited 2/3 Emini TF Long @ 822.00 --> + 1.9
[16:05:45] <@wrbtrader> Exited Remainder Emini TF Long @ 824.40 --> + 4.3
[16:06:12] <+codehead> nice
[16:06:13] <@wrbtrader> was not expecting that much of a volatility spike into the 4pm est rush hour traffic
[16:06:26] <@wrbtrader> a nice volatility surprise
[16:08:25] <+ajax> gg
[16:08:49] <+ajax> codeh....how did the interview go?
[16:13:07] <@wrbtrader> A lot of the range today should setup good volatility tomorrow.
[16:13:40] <@wrbtrader> Thus, will push some extra size tomorrow or try to ADD to profitable positions if I get another trade signal while in an open position.
[17:14:35] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[17:26:50] <@wrbtrader> Take care all and tomorrow is a new month.
Session Close: Mon Feb 28 17:28:13 2011

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#FuturesTrades is free and is a serious professional trading chat room in which any trader can use the chat room to post their trades or commentaries involving futures, exchange traded funds or forex currencies. Simply, you don't need to be a client of TheStrategyLab.com to use the chat room nor do you need to be a price action only trader (no indicators) because some members use indicators while others do not.

Therefore, we welcome all traders with their own trade signal methods, different perspective of the markets and different experience levels. To gain access to #FuturesTrades...please follow the instructions at the below link.

http://www.thestrategylab.com/ftchat/forum/viewforum.php?f=5

The purpose of #FuturesTrades is that it's designed to be a trade journal for documentation purposes only so that members can have a time stamp archive of trades and market commentaries of each trading day so that they can better understand their broker statements from one trade to the next trade when they review their performance numbers on any given trading day.

Further, members are not obligated to educate nor help other members but members are encourage to ask questions about any trades or market commentaries that's posted by others.

In addition, our primary job in the free chat room is to moderate the room (keep the peace) because with so many members using different trade signal methods along with different opinions about the market...debates or arguments can easily flare up without moderating. In addition, our presence in the chat room is to ensure it's a spam free chat room during trading although these archived chat logs may contain advertisements for guest visitors.

Commonly discussed trading instruments from futures, exchange traded funds and forex currencies:

Image CME Emini Futures EMD, ES and NQ

Image ICE Emini TF Futures (formerly CME ER2)

Image CBOT mini-sized Dow Futures YM

Image Eurex Index Derivatives (futures) DAX and DJ Euro Stoxx50

Image Eurex Fixed Income Derivatives (futures) BUND, BOBL and Schatz

Image Euronext Futures FTSE-100 and CAC-40

Image CME Futures EuroFX 6E and EC

Image Treasury Futures T-Notes ZT, ZN, ZF and T-Bonds ZB

Image Forex Currencies GbpUsd, EurUsd, EurYen and UsdCdn

Image Exchange Traded Funds VXX, DIA, IWM, QQQQ, SPY, BGU, FAS, FAZ, TNA, OIH, XLE and GLD

Image NYMEX Energy Futures Light Crude Oil CL, Brent Crude Oil BRN, e-miNY QM and Natural Gas NG

Image COMEX Metal Futures Gold GC, mini-Gold YG, Copper HG and Silver SI

Image S&P CNX NIFTY Futures

Image Hang Seng Index Futures HSI and mini-Hang Seng MHI

Also, to prevent the usual mix-up about our different chat rooms, most of our fee-base clients do not use chat rooms just like most retail traders do not use chat rooms. Yet, the few clients that do use chat rooms, our fee-base clients are discussing market analysis or price action only trade signals via concepts from our strategies in the private chat rooms called #VolatilityTradingTSL or #SwingTradingTSL and they're not allowed to do such in #FuturesTrades.

Reminder, our Terms of Use (TOU) Policy is a must read to prevent any misunderstandings along with revealing that #FuturesTrades is a serious professional trading chat room and we expect members to act professional. Also, these logs may have been edited (rarely) to remove any messages that a member has complained to me via private message that they consider a particular commentary to be inappropriate, offending or too far in the off topic area that's a distraction when the commentary was posted.

Note: All logs regardless to their location at TheStrategyLab.com website are eastern standard time.

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