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 Post subject: January 20th Thursday - Futures, ETFs and Forex Currencies
 Post Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 9:14 pm 
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Session Start: Thu Jan 20 07:39:20 2011
Session Ident: #FuturesTrades
[07:39:20] * Now talking in #FuturesTrades
[07:39:20] <@X> [NihabaAshi] chat room archives @ viewforum.php?f=20
[08:34:00] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[09:18:28] <LP> gm all
[09:32:35] <Trendtrader> Long NQ @ 2293.50
[09:33:51] <+Trendtrader> Exited all NQ Long @ 2291.75 --> - 1.75
[09:36:18] <Sidhartha> the sell off continues
[09:39:10] <+mojo9981> long es 72
[09:42:33] <@wrbtrader> Good morning all...in and out today for me with personal stuff but I will be trading today.
[09:43:28] <+mojo9981> super
[09:43:40] <@wrbtrader> I got an overnight complaint and those involved must send me a message via ONLY private message or email.
[09:43:41] <Tigerman> hi all
[09:43:47] <@wrbtrader> DO NOT post crap in this room.
[09:44:06] <@wrbtrader> It's a distraction to others not involved...
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[09:45:06] <+mojo9981> +2 es half
[09:48:18] <+mojo9981> flat +3.25
[09:50:14] <+Tigerman> Shorts TF @ 781
[09:50:36] <+Tigerman> fight here
[09:54:03] <+Tigerman> Covered all TF Short @ 782 --> - 1
[10:00:32] <+Tigerman> short 1.3470 EUR/USD
[10:01:40] <+Tigerman> exit 1/2 1.3461
[10:02:21] <+Tigerman> look for short in TF
[10:03:04] <+Tigerman> exit remainder @1.3462
[10:03:16] <+mojo9981> ss es 77,25
[10:04:00] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[10:04:02] <+Tigerman> Shorts TF @ 784.3
[10:05:08] <+Tigerman> Covered 1/3 TF Short @ 783 --> + 1.3
[10:05:32] <+Tigerman> Covered 1/3 TF Short @ 783 --> + 1.3
[10:05:47] <+Tigerman> tight on stop now
[10:06:45] <+Tigerman> nice a downspike if happen
[10:08:19] <+Tigerman> they listen me :)
[10:08:57] <+Sidhartha> nice tiger
[10:09:07] <+Tigerman> sell off continue ...
[10:09:07] <+mojo9981> out half
[10:09:12] <+Tigerman> thanks sid
[10:09:15] <+mojo9981> 75
[10:10:05] <@wrbtrader> Shorts TF @ 781.10 -> large size
[10:10:53] <+mojo9981> done for the day here
[10:11:46] <+Tigerman> wanna exir trade but last short fron WRB press me to stay :)
[10:11:59] <+Tigerman> vola contracting here
[10:12:14] <@wrbtrader> I have a late entry (chasing)...should have been short a few minutes earlier
[10:13:17] <+Tigerman> I always get in trouble when chasing... but also sad to let the train without me on board
[10:13:39] <+Tigerman> Covered Remainder TF Short @ 781.3 --> + 3
[10:13:44] <+Tigerman> stop in action
[10:13:56] <@wrbtrader> Covered all TF Short @ 781.60 --> - 0.5
[10:14:26] <+Tigerman> before wanna exit @ 780.9 but wait a little bit for more..
[10:14:39] <+Tigerman> sad to say I get less.. :)
[10:18:33] <+Tigerman> Shorts TF @ 780.6
[10:18:42] <+Tigerman> little risky
[10:18:46] <@wrbtrader> Shorts TF @ 781.10 -> large size
[10:18:47] <+mojo9981> flat es last
[10:19:18] <@wrbtrader> got a phone call...need to go soon back to the tax accountant office
[10:19:33] <+Tigerman> Covered 1/3 TF Short @ 779.7 --> + 0.9
[10:20:01] <+Tigerman> Covered 1/3 TF Short @ 779.8 --> + 0.8
[10:21:08] <+Tigerman> Covered Remainder TF Short @ 779.9 --> + 0.7
[10:25:25] <+mojo9981> +8 on es today
[10:25:29] <+mojo9981> see you later all
[10:27:02] * codehead_away is now known as codehead
[10:28:30] <+Tigerman> Long TF @ 780
[10:28:47] <+Tigerman> from here can run a bit
[10:29:38] <+Tigerman> Exited 1/3 TF Long @ 790 --> + 10
[10:29:50] <+Tigerman> oooops...
[10:30:08] <+Tigerman> Exited all TF Long @ 780 --> 0
[10:31:27] <werner> hi all
[10:31:37] <+Tigerman> hi werner
[10:32:18] <@wrbtrader> Covered all TF Short @ 780.50 --> + 0.6
[10:32:18] <+Tigerman> Long TF @ 781
[10:33:00] <+Tigerman> Exited 1/3 TF Long @ 781.1 --> + 0.1
[10:33:55] <+Tigerman> Exited 1/3 TF Long @ 781 --> 0
[10:34:23] <+Tigerman> wait for up spike..
[10:34:42] <+Tigerman> go up.....!!!
[10:35:11] <+Tigerman> Exited Remainder TF Long @ 781.1 --> + 0.1
[10:35:35] <+Tigerman> choppy action
[10:36:37] <+Tigerman> Shorts TF @ 780.4
[10:38:31] <+Tigerman> Covered 1/3 TF Short @ 780.4 --> 0
[10:38:50] <+Tigerman> good escape ..for me
[10:39:18] <+Tigerman> Covered 1/3 TF Short @ 779.5 --> + 0.9
[10:40:02] <+Tigerman> Covered Remainder TF Short @ 779.2 --> + 1.2
[10:40:59] <+Tigerman> very hard to stay in trade like this from mental side
[10:46:46] * Looking up codehead user info...
[10:47:46] <+werner> bbl...dont like this price action
[10:51:30] <+Tigerman> Shorts TF @ 777
[10:51:59] <+Tigerman> Covered 1/3 TF Short @ 776.4 --> + 0.6
[10:52:34] <+Tigerman> Covered 1/3 TF Short @ 776.1 --> + 0.9
[10:52:58] <+Tigerman> Covered Remainder TF Short @ 776.5 --> + 0.5
[10:54:27] <+Tigerman> I exit see all next time
[10:58:19] <codehead>  Long NQ @ 2272.00 
[11:00:02] <+codehead>  Exited all NQ @ 2273.25 
[11:00:16] <+codehead> wanted a faster reaction than that
[11:00:38] <+codehead> signal only scalp right now, bigger trend sitll down hard
[11:03:48] <@wrbtrader> strong directional down since 1040am est with no counter-thrusts for short re-entries
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[11:32:25] <@wrbtrader> Shorts TF @ 774.00 -> large size
[11:35:09] <@wrbtrader> Covered all TF Short @ 773.90 --> + 0.1
[11:35:13] <@wrbtrader> average
[11:40:58] <@wrbtrader> Long TF @ 774.90 -> medium size
[11:52:28] <@wrbtrader> :(
[12:05:20] <@wrbtrader> Exited all TF Long @ 776.30 --> + 1.4
[12:13:15] <+codehead> nice trade
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[13:46:59] <@wrbtrader> Shorts TF @ 775.40 -> medium size
[13:48:21] <+mojo9981> they wanna take it up
[13:48:31] <+mojo9981> to 77 78 es
[13:48:37] <+mojo9981> and drag the rest
[13:48:38] * Retrieving #FuturesTrades modes...
[13:49:08] <@wrbtrader> Covered all TF Short @ 775.30 --> + 0.1
[13:50:22] <@wrbtrader> Long TF @ 775.70 -> medium size
[13:51:12] <@wrbtrader> back at weak support
[13:57:23] * Looking up Widgetman user info...
[13:58:49] <+codehead> .500 retracement held on NQ
[13:59:44] <@wrbtrader> volatility spike
[14:09:52] <@wrbtrader> Exited all TF Long @ 777.80 --> + 2.1
[14:15:29] <+mojo9981> see that?
[14:15:31] <+mojo9981> to 78
[14:15:45] <+mojo9981> is where TF need to be out
[14:15:47] <+mojo9981> wich you did
[14:15:52] <+mojo9981> awesemoe
[14:15:56] <+mojo9981> just awesome
[14:25:02] <+mojo9981> good calls wrb
[14:25:06] <+mojo9981> very nice
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[14:37:40] <+mojo9981> selling the top
[14:37:44] <+mojo9981> donw we go from here
[14:55:55] <+codehead>  Shorts NQ @ 2292.25 
[14:57:00] <+codehead>  Exited all NQ @ 2290.25 
[14:57:13] <+codehead> could be top there, decent fib
[14:57:34] <+codehead> and comingup on bond close
[14:58:54] <+codehead> plus, mojo said so ;-)
[14:59:11] <ajax> gg
[14:59:15] <+codehead> and looks like a decent bet he's right
[15:00:21] <+codehead> ES NQ YM made it back about flat, i don't have TF
[15:02:14] <+ajax> ss2290.5, +1, +2, runr in
[15:02:48] <+ajax> +1.5out
[15:06:49] <+ajax> es 3min H&S.....see if brks dwn from BB line there @ 1277
[15:07:04] <+ajax> 3min
[15:07:54] <+ajax> like da 3min versus 5min, as gives same look, but more info
[15:10:48] <+mojo9981> codehead
[15:10:50] <+mojo9981> when they sell
[15:10:54] <+mojo9981> you can see
[15:10:59] <+mojo9981> before market selling
[15:11:04] <+mojo9981> good short codehead
[15:15:32] <+mojo9981> holding short here till 75.5 targte es
[15:20:47] <+ajax> 12:20] <+iNews> 15:20ET Crude oil drops on China tightening concerns [ MW http://v.gd/7hukXL ]
[15:20:57] <+mojo9981> oput half es
[15:21:04] <+mojo9981> +2.75
[15:21:39] <+codehead> nice trade
[15:22:03] <+codehead> i need more patience--went and made lunch instead lol
[15:26:24] <+mojo9981> 75.5 target for my es
[15:28:07] <+LP> mojo what do you use to see the volume? or do u trade with volume charts?
[15:28:40] <+LP> i use 2500 vol charts on NQ
[15:28:44] <+mojo9981> flat
[15:28:50] <+mojo9981> 75.25
[15:28:54] <+codehead> nice trade
[15:29:12] <+mojo9981> i use tape
[15:29:16] <+mojo9981> bid and ask
[15:29:23] <+mojo9981> and my system
[15:29:26] <+LP> read the tape
[15:29:37] <+LP> time and sales
[15:29:42] <+mojo9981> no
[15:29:55] <+mojo9981> time and sales you cannot read
[15:30:05] <+mojo9981> tape
[15:30:12] <+mojo9981> bid versus offer
[15:30:18] <+mojo9981> and differenece
[15:30:22] <+mojo9981> between
[15:30:27] <+LP> ahh ok
[15:30:49] <+LP> thank you
[15:30:53] <+mojo9981> sure
[15:31:07] <+mojo9981> i dont trade nq and TF cause it is too small for me
[15:31:16] <+mojo9981> only es
[15:36:16] <+codehead> NQ .500 pb exact
[15:36:27] <+codehead> bounced off it
[15:40:23] <+ajax> L2281.75, +1, +2, runr in
[15:40:59] <+ajax> +2.25out
[15:56:47] <+mojo9981> 1 min
[15:56:52] <+mojo9981> and i know it is a buy
[15:56:56] <+mojo9981> need 1 min
[15:57:54] <+mojo9981> yep
[15:57:55] <+mojo9981> LONG
[15:57:59] <+mojo9981> 76
[15:58:01] <+mojo9981> es
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[15:59:23] <+mojo9981> out half here
[15:59:51] <+mojo9981> +1
[16:02:53] <+mojo9981> flat reminder
[16:02:55] <+mojo9981> 7675
[16:02:58] <+mojo9981> +0.75
[16:03:06] <+mojo9981> see ya all tomorrow
[16:03:09] <+codehead> goog earning, pop
[16:03:14] <+mojo9981> wrb thank you for yoru room and your calls
[16:03:24] <+mojo9981> yeah codehaed
[16:03:29] <+mojo9981> reason why I took 1 point
[16:03:38] <+codehead> nice
[16:03:38] <+mojo9981> cause time was not good
[16:03:44] <+mojo9981> it was closing
[16:03:56] <+codehead> i was on phone for a bit--esignal actually called me regarding a post i made to their forum
[16:04:25] <+codehead> i'm trying to get the to expose bid/ask volume
[16:04:49] <+codehead> otherwise, you can only get bid/ask volume from the time you open a chart--no ability to back fill
[16:04:58] <+codehead> pretty annoying
[16:05:18] <+codehead> it's in their data feed, you just can't get it out
[16:05:24] <+codehead> lol, np
[16:05:57] <+codehead> i mean... i'd like to make an indicator that plots volume on upticks to volume on down ticks
[16:06:13] <+codehead> same as volume at bid vs volume at ask
[16:06:34] <+codehead> actually, i've been doing this for past few months
[16:06:52] <+codehead> that's why i knew you were right when you showed me your charts
[16:07:30] <+codehead> anyway, with esignal, you can't back fill that info--so the indicator starts formt eh time you open your charts but is blank for previous bars
[16:07:54] <+codehead> really sucks, because i'd like to see what happened earlier, without running charts 24/7
[16:08:18] <+codehead> seems i finally beat on them long enough that they will look into doing it
[16:08:32] <+mojo9981> i have to go
[16:08:39] <+codehead> k man, have a good eve
[16:08:48] <+mojo9981> my mechanic just told me
[16:08:55] <+mojo9981> he hit manatee
[16:08:59] <+mojo9981> by accicdnet
[16:09:03] <+codehead> woah
[16:09:10] <+mojo9981> we have huuge one here
[16:12:06] <@wrbtrader> Some big earnings soon...expect futures to move a little
[16:13:09] <+mojo9981> again wrb thank you for your room and hard work and great calls
[16:13:29] <+mojo9981> rare these days I see good trader
[16:14:09] <@wrbtrader> For those that live in the U.S. and nearing retirement...
[16:14:27] <+mojo9981> I am siwss
[16:14:35] <@wrbtrader> "Social Insecurity" Inside the Trust Fund Illusion" @ http://www.dailyfinance.com/story/retir ... /19806199/
[16:14:38] <+Sidhartha> whose earnings...?
[16:14:38] <+mojo9981> I only visit US
[16:15:43] <@wrbtrader> Home Sales Hit 13 Year Low @ http://www.dailyfinance.com/article/hom ... y/1252302/
[16:15:46] <@wrbtrader> :(
[16:19:10] <@wrbtrader> Here's another interesting article...
[16:19:38] <@wrbtrader> "Does Lower Volatility Signal A Market Correction?" @ http://www.dailyfinance.com/story/stree ... /19807513/
[16:24:07] <+ajax> thx wrb :)
[16:24:31] <@wrbtrader> your welcome
[16:25:05] <+ajax> how's things up in frenchie Canuck land?.. ;)
[16:25:36] <+ajax> been having unusual weather?
[16:25:50] <@wrbtrader> It's going to be a cold weekend around -15
[16:25:58] <+ajax> yikes
[16:26:16] <+ajax> glad here where warmer... :)
[16:26:48] <+ajax> ya Toronto relatives saying odd winter...on/off cold /warm spells
[16:26:55] <+ajax> lol
[16:27:26] <+ajax> :)
[16:28:46] <+ajax> ya Quebec is beautiful in the winter.....has hills/mts. where Toronto is flat....lol
[16:29:31] <@wrbtrader> I just looked out my window and saw some teenagers walk by...
[16:29:38] <+ajax> things gooing ok in the 'trials of life' there?
[16:29:46] <@wrbtrader> No hats, no gloves and with gym shoes on
[16:29:48] <@wrbtrader> crazy
[16:29:55] <+ajax> :)
[16:30:02] <+ajax> ah kids....lol
[16:30:09] <+ajax> they'll change...lol
[16:31:30] <+ajax> market moving...see if there is a reactionary move here
[16:31:52] <+ajax> sometimes like to play this re-open....nothin yet
[16:33:11] <@wrbtrader> By the way, someone recently asked me that if the VIX or VXX is so low (low volatility)...why has 2011 had some decent price movement ?
[16:33:18] <@wrbtrader> Simple answer...
[16:33:32] <@wrbtrader> Don't just look at the actual number of the VIX or VXX...
[16:33:51] <@wrbtrader> Also look at if it's range bound or breakouts
[16:34:19] <@wrbtrader> So far, 2011 has been a breakout (dropped below support) for the $VIX and $VXX
[16:34:29] <@wrbtrader> Thus, it's moving nicely but downwards
[16:34:53] <@wrbtrader> Thus, low volatility number with good volatility for intraday price action.
[16:40:32] <+werner> gn all
[17:00:23] <+ajax> sorry had phone call....
Session Close: Thu Jan 20 17:18:55 2011

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Reminder, our Terms of Use (TOU) Policy is a must read to prevent any misunderstandings along with revealing that #FuturesTrades is a serious professional trading chat room and we expect members to act professional. Also, these logs may have been edited (rarely) to remove any messages that a member has complained to me via private message that they consider a particular commentary to be inappropriate, offending or too far in the off topic area that's a distraction when the commentary was posted.

Note: All logs regardless to their location at TheStrategyLab.com website are eastern standard time.

Best Regards,
M.A. Perry
Trader and Founder of WRB Analysis (wide range body analysis)
Price Action Trading (no technical indicators)
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