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Session Start: Thu Dec 30 08:27:17 2010
Session Ident: #FuturesTrades
[08:27:17] * Now talking in #FuturesTrades
[08:27:17] <@X> [NihabaAshi] chat room archives @ viewforum.php?f=20
[08:59:03] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[09:35:19] <@wrbtrader> Long TF @ 789.70 -> small size
[09:35:30] <@wrbtrader> 3 contracts
[09:35:49] <rickf> short es 1255.25 paper
[09:37:42] <+rickf> out 1255 +.25 paper
[09:37:49] <+rickf> news at 945, 10, 1030, 11
[09:39:53] <@wrbtrader> Exited all TF Long @ 789.70 --> 0
[09:44:52] <@wrbtrader> Long TF @ 791.00 -> small size
[09:45:03] <@wrbtrader> 3 contracts
[09:45:31] <@wrbtrader> getting shaken out very easily and I had an entry problem on this trade.
[09:45:44] <werner> all
[09:48:24] <@wrbtrader> it's a shame I got shook out of that prior breakout trade
[09:48:45] <@wrbtrader> breakouts usually only suitable for high volatility or rising volatility trading conditions
[09:49:08] <@wrbtrader> volatility was rising very nicely and hopefully it can maintain itself for a few more minutes
[09:56:46] <@wrbtrader> Exited all TF Long @ 790.50 --> - 0.5
[09:57:02] <inertia> good morning
[09:58:13] <@wrbtrader> decent volatility for a holiday trading session...
[09:58:21] <@wrbtrader> just not able to exploit it just yet
[09:59:15] <@wrbtrader> Shorts TF @ 789.80 -> medium size
[09:59:22] <@wrbtrader> 4 contracts
[09:59:36] <@wrbtrader> support breakout
[10:00:27] <@wrbtrader> anybody having problems with their Eurex DAX charts or any Eurex futures data
[10:03:08] <@wrbtrader> Shorts TF @ 790.00 -> Add
[10:03:18] <@wrbtrader> support failure again
[10:04:51] <@wrbtrader> Covered 1/3 TF Short @ 789.60 --> + 0.4
[10:05:35] <@wrbtrader> Covered Remainder TF Short @ 789.80 --> 0
[10:07:07] <+rickf> short es 1254.25 paper
[10:10:17] <@wrbtrader> Shorts TF @ 789.30 -> medium size
[10:10:30] <@wrbtrader> 4 contracts
[10:10:56] <@wrbtrader> same trade as prior two but just late via not getting back in around 789.80
[10:14:33] <@wrbtrader> Shorts TF @ 789.00 -> Add
[10:15:09] <@wrbtrader> geeesh
[10:15:10] <+rickf> exit es 1252.25 +2 paper
[10:15:22] <+rickf> still looking short
[10:15:39] <+rickf> just not risking getting trapped in low-volume chop
[10:15:43] <@wrbtrader> catch the breakout and then it retraces looking for stops to accumulate further down
[10:16:43] <@wrbtrader> Covered 1/3 TF Short @ 788.80 --> + 0.2
[10:18:40] <@wrbtrader> Covered Remainder TF Short @ 789.20 --> + 0.1
[10:18:41] <+rickf> natgas at 1030, EIA at 11 today
[10:26:04] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[10:40:07] <+rickf>
[11:06:50] <@wrbtrader> Long TF @ 791.20 -> small size
[11:06:55] <@wrbtrader> intuition
[11:07:12] <@wrbtrader> 3 contracts (2+1)
[11:12:56] <@wrbtrader> Exited all TF Long @ 790.50 --> - 0.7
[11:13:13] <@wrbtrader> Shorts TF @ 790.50 -> small size
[11:13:26] <@wrbtrader> Shorts TF @ 790.50 -> Add
[11:13:30] <@wrbtrader> intuition
[11:13:38] <@wrbtrader> will be another tough trade
[11:16:04] <@wrbtrader> Shorts TF @ 790.90 -> Add
[11:16:16] <@wrbtrader> 1+1+1
[11:26:12] <@wrbtrader> another increasing volatility retraced with contracting volatility
[11:26:51] <@wrbtrader> another typical holiday trading session that's very similar to the prior months of thin trading in the declining volatility
[11:36:59] <ajax> ya rt wrb
[11:48:35] <AndyES> Shorts CL @ 89.36 -> medium size «« testing script »»
[11:49:11] <@wrbtrader> hi AndyES
[11:50:13] <+AndyES> hello wrbtrader
[11:50:35] <+AndyES> thanks for the welcome
[11:50:51] <+rickf> back
[11:51:16] <+AndyES> Covered 2/3 CL Short @ 89.30 --> + 0.06 «« testing script »»
[11:52:01] <+AndyES> Covered Remainder CL Short @ 89.11 --> + 0.25 «« testing script »»
[11:55:49] <@wrbtrader> Covered 1/3 TF Short @ 789.80 --> + 1.1
[11:56:04] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[12:03:05] <@wrbtrader> Covered all TF Short @ 790.10 --> + 0.4
[12:03:30] <+AndyES> Long CL @ 89.08 «« scalp »»
[12:03:54] <+AndyES> Exited 2/3 CL Long @ 89.14 --> + 0.06 «« scalp »»
[12:05:50] <+AndyES> Exited Remainder CL Long @ 89.06 --> - 0.02 «« scalp »»
[12:10:43] <@wrbtrader> Shorts TF @ 789.70 -> small size
[12:10:52] <@wrbtrader>
[12:15:03] <@wrbtrader> Covered all TF Short @ 788.80 --> + 0.9
[12:15:13] <@wrbtrader> got some distractions...be back later
[12:38:24] <@wrbtrader> I'm back
[12:54:39] <codehead> wb!
[12:57:50] <+werner> nice year end all and see you all on monday
[12:58:20] <+codehead> k cya wener--happy new year
[12:58:39] <+werner>
[13:23:05] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[13:34:23] <+rickf> short es 1253 paper
[13:53:11] <+AndyES> Long CL @ 89.39 «« scalp »»
[13:53:49] <+AndyES> Exited 2/3 CL Long @ 89.45 --> + 0.06 «« scalp »»
[13:59:33] <@wrbtrader> Looks like Light Crude Oil CL futures trying hard to retrace or stabilize after the big drop soon after 1106
[13:59:40] <@wrbtrader> 1106am est
[14:00:35] <Time4now> hey WRB
[14:00:45] <+Time4now> any reason you don't try CL?
[14:00:48] <+AndyES> Exited Remainder CL Long @ 89.59 --> + 0.2 «« scalp »»
[14:01:11] <@wrbtrader> I do but I don't post the trades in here because they are usually swing trades...
[14:01:17] <@wrbtrader> several times a year...not much
[14:01:33] <+AndyES> not much resistance between here and 90.00, but I couldn't hold it any longer
[14:01:54] <+Time4now> ic thanks
[14:03:11] <@wrbtrader> I will be posting swing trades in 2011 but I'm not sure in what format (here in the chat room or at the forum with statements).
[14:04:12] <+Time4now> I will need to start STR then
[14:04:26] <+Time4now> Have not been in a position to lately
[14:05:48] <@wrbtrader> On a side note (will delete log later about these comments)...
[14:05:58] <@wrbtrader> The BCS bowls is a mess.
[14:06:26] <@wrbtrader> How in the hell does Univ. of Washington get into a bowl game against Univ. of Nebraska
[14:07:21] <@wrbtrader> Especially after Nebraska already killed them in a regular season game 56 - 21
[14:07:48] <@wrbtrader> a game where they pulled most of there line starters to keep from running up the score...geeesh
[14:08:23] <@wrbtrader> These schools make hundreds of thousand of dollars in profits per game and millions per bowl game.
[14:08:55] <@wrbtrader> Seems it's the money that dictates whom plays whom in anything except for the title game.
[14:09:17] <@wrbtrader> However, Boise State was undefeated until the 2nd to last game of the season...
[14:10:17] <+AndyES> Shorts CL @ 89.74 «« scalp »»
[14:10:31] <@wrbtrader> They were ranked 3rd or 4th most of the season and blowing out teams while teams like Auburn moved up in the rankings from 21st until they passed Boise State
[14:11:42] <@wrbtrader> In case folks didn't know...
[14:12:13] <@wrbtrader> Many of those millions of dollars these teams make...is sent to a fund that gets traded or invested.
[14:14:01] <@wrbtrader> Many businesses also hiring traders to handle their excess money...
[14:14:09] <@wrbtrader> http://www.davemanuel.com/2010/03/23/go ... -business/\
[14:14:18] <@wrbtrader> ooops
[14:14:23] <@wrbtrader> http://www.davemanuel.com/2010/03/23/go ... -business/
[14:14:51] <+AndyES> Covered all CL Short @ 89.77 --> - 0.03 «« scalp »»
[14:15:01] <@wrbtrader> That first link has an error via me accidentally putting the \ mark in it
[14:15:52] <@wrbtrader> Many others doing the same or have been doing such from Universities or companies like Google...
[14:16:03] <@wrbtrader> They got their own trading offices
[14:16:26] <@wrbtrader> All the major Energy companies have the same too
[14:17:54] <+rickf> i've been dabbling in /CL options this past year myself .. mostly paper, but a few live trades
[14:20:33] <@wrbtrader> 60min charts of Emini TF shows a nice congestion of low volatility price action since Dec 22nd
[14:20:44] <@wrbtrader> Were currently at the top of that congestion
[14:21:17] <+codehead> ecess money--what a concept...
[14:21:21] <+codehead> excess
[14:22:10] <@wrbtrader> I wouldn't mind working as a "remote" trader for one of these firms.
[14:22:46] <@wrbtrader> I have one buddy that's a remote trader for one of the governments pension funds
[14:23:02] <@wrbtrader> lots of compliance stuff
[14:24:23] <@wrbtrader> Speaking of such...
[14:24:36] <@wrbtrader> Here's a list of some of the biggest trading losses in history
[14:24:42] <@wrbtrader> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_trading_losses
[14:25:07] <@wrbtrader> Many of those traders also did "remote" trading a few days
[14:26:02] <@wrbtrader> I think the Frances Yung guy from China was found guilty and executed.
[14:26:12] <+codehead> :-P
[14:26:19] <@wrbtrader> If it wasn't him it was someone else in china involving a big trading loss
[14:26:27] <+codehead> yeah, i recall that
[14:26:37] <+codehead> some chinese trader
[14:26:54] <@wrbtrader> I remember saying to myself...geeesh...
[14:27:15] <@wrbtrader> All traders must be scared in that country after that
[14:28:53] <+codehead> i recall seeing other businessmen get executed for performing badly there
[14:29:32] <@wrbtrader> Yeah...there's been a few hedge fund like managers or securities managers in China that's been executed
[14:29:40] <+codehead> they figure if you lost of lot of peoples' money, it's the same as stealing form them
[14:29:43] <+codehead> apparently
[14:29:59] <@wrbtrader> However, I think they were involved in embezzling money and then refusing to say what they did with it.
[14:30:06] <+codehead> ic
[14:30:25] <+AndyES> Shorts CL @ 89.85 «« scalp »»
[14:30:36] <@wrbtrader> Only guy...a top trader at one time before becoming a securities manager...
[14:30:51] <@wrbtrader> Took almost 10 million dollars he was in charge of trading.
[14:31:05] <@wrbtrader> I guess he wrote himself a check
[14:31:20] <+AndyES> Covered 2/3 CL Short @ 89.80 --> + 0.05 «« scalp »»
[14:32:02] <+codehead> i recall the french guy
[14:33:18] <+codehead> sheesh, the american at the top fo the list was only in his 30's
[14:34:03] <@wrbtrader> If you're a top trader for many years...they start to give you more access to stuff.
[14:34:20] <+AndyES> Covered Remainder CL Short @ 89.74 --> + 0.11 «« scalp »»
[14:34:20] <@wrbtrader> I guess they all get greedy or just forget how much money is worth
[14:35:31] <@wrbtrader> Brazil is on the list too...
[14:35:46] <@wrbtrader> Heck...they shoot soccer referres down there.
[14:36:16] <@wrbtrader> I remember one guy accidentally kicked the ball in his own goal...
[14:36:40] <@wrbtrader> He was beaten by angry fans, wife and kids assaulted.
[14:38:38] <@wrbtrader> Anyways...my point with all of this...
[14:39:20] <@wrbtrader> I see a lot more well known universities, private companies, public companies hiring their own traders to trade their "excess money".
[14:40:07] <@wrbtrader> I wouldn't be surprise to see more names on that "losing list" in the near future that are associated with companies or schools with their own traders.
[14:53:05] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[15:27:04] <+ajax> back....interesting wrb...... I 'remote eat' too..... )
[15:42:45] <@wrbtrader> Shorts TF @ 790.50 -> small size
[15:42:59] <@wrbtrader> 1 contract
[15:43:17] <@wrbtrader> made an error...looking for an out
[15:44:23] <@wrbtrader> lucky so far
[15:46:17] <@wrbtrader> Covered TF Short @ 789.40 --> + 1.1
[15:48:43] <+ajax> gg
[15:49:56] <+ajax> wrb....I posted in here yesterday....got notice from TS, that they increasing ICE/Russell mini access by $60/month.....means other brokers will follow if not already....glad not trade it....
[15:51:56] <+codehead> yeah, all are charging because ICE is
[16:00:01] <@wrbtrader> ajax...TS broker part or the data service part of TS
[16:02:36] <+ajax> data service part of TS
[16:03:28] <+rickf> exit es 1253.75 -.75 paper
[16:03:59] <+rickf> only 1 tho .... 4 this morning
[16:04:46] <+ajax> ya was a tuff trading day....not much to go on....I got like 10 trades total
[16:04:48] <+rickf> if i can get a losing/doubtful trade back to within 1 point of entry, i consider that a scratch
[16:05:03] <+rickf> ie not a loss
[16:06:10] <+rickf> still up on the day which is nice --- been forever since i day traded anything
[16:09:40] <+ajax> then good ya did well on a tuff trading day like today....
[16:10:07] <+rickf> lol ... guess once oyu have a system it just comes back to ya. thx
[16:10:10] <@wrbtrader> Some brokers or chart vendors are offering to each that ICE fee themselves if trading more or subscribing to other services
[16:10:22] <+ajax> yupper...
[16:10:41] <+rickf> i still don't believe in paying for broker data
[16:10:52] <@wrbtrader> Like...if you subscribe to NYMEX Energies we'll throw in ICE exchange for free
[16:11:25] <@wrbtrader> I don't believe in paying for broker data too
[16:11:42] <+ajax> ya agree.....if it weren't for the all in one at TS, & all the custom indicators I have written in easylanguage, I wud do others....but they got me with technology....lol
[16:12:18] <+rickf> Always been curious about TS, but they no demo anything, and I refuse to fund an account just to try their platform out in a simulator
[16:12:44] <@wrbtrader> Heck...my cable company just sent me a notice that they're increasing my bill via $1.45
[16:12:48] <+rickf> Not a huge loss since I use NT for strategy stuff in simulator anyway
[16:13:01] <@wrbtrader> Doesn't seem like much but it's a lot for all the subscribers they have.
[16:13:16] <+ajax> ya they are the best I found 5 years ago, after trying like 4 other platforms....they consistantly upgrade & do well....have a MAtrix, that is just like Ninja dom
[16:13:18] <@wrbtrader> They called the increase "research & development".
[16:13:32] <+rickf> i renegotiate my cable bill every year -- 90% for TV is outrageous, and that's basic cable .. no premium stuff
[16:13:35] <+ajax> lol
[16:13:50] <+rickf> R&D for how much they can gouge customers
[16:14:08] <@wrbtrader> Yeah...I'm going to call them and negotiate my bill.
[16:14:26] <+ajax> ya 'they' are sticking it to all of us....the NWO is upon us more than folks know....the Tea Party folks know, but the idiot masses still asleep as normal
[16:15:14] <+rickf> i cut my phone last year, am now using Vonage and loving it ... harder time cutting the TV though
[16:15:28] <+rickf> sports and realtime news are important and not all online yet
[16:15:50] <+ajax> ya my wife just did that with Comcast here in Seattle....called up & just said too expensive & will switch if they don't bring it down....they did quickly & she got like 30% off it & they thru in Starz channel for free for 6 months.....lol
[16:16:12] <@wrbtrader> The ones that are online are in the U.S. and they don't allow others outside the U.S. to view it online even if you want to pay
[16:16:17] <+ajax> just few weeks ago
[16:16:27] <+rickf> yeup ... went from 90 to 50 this year, last year it was 90 to 30
[16:16:40] <+ajax> geez....not a beauti eh??!!.....
[16:16:46] <+rickf> wrbtrader - yeah ... the games they play w/content
[16:17:04] <@wrbtrader> When I first arrived in Canada...
[16:17:14] <@wrbtrader> I watched a lot of U.S. TV shows online.
[16:17:14] <+ajax> what's a "wrbtrader"??
[16:17:36] <+rickf> soirry, wrong nick
[16:17:38] <+rickf> nicknme
[16:17:46] <+ajax> ah
[16:17:49] <@wrbtrader> Can't get that anymore...they quickly recognize the IP address as Canada...don't allow Canada IPs
[16:18:07] <+rickf> a wrbtrader is a very experienced wise sage trader, according to Rickster's dictionary
[16:18:09] <@wrbtrader> my old username was NihabaAshi (Japanese Candlestick term)
[16:18:10] <+ajax> nasty Progressives!!!!....lol
[16:18:19] <+ajax> ah
[16:18:50] <@wrbtrader> Markets closed tomorrow.
[16:19:02] <+ajax> mine was jujitsu along time ago... ).....mutual luv of da Nippers.... )
[16:19:17] <@wrbtrader> Take care all and have a safe/happy New Years Celebration
[16:19:26] <+rickf> you too !
[16:19:44] <+ajax> but from years of martial arts...jujitsu/samurai training back in the day
[16:19:56] <+ajax> u2
[16:20:03] <+rickf> mmm randori and rug burns
[16:20:06] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[16:20:11] <+ajax> lol
[16:20:12] <@wrbtrader> Yeah...ashi if a foot term in martial arts
[16:20:20] <@wrbtrader> if = is
[16:20:26] <+rickf> yup
[16:21:00] <+rickf> martial arts very influentiial around my house ... heck my wireless network is named after a martial arts term for the moment
[16:21:15] <+rickf> (soon to be renamed 'fbi surveillance van #2")
[16:21:15] <+ajax> 'shidare yanagi riu aki jujitsu' was/is my style... )
[16:21:27] <+ajax> lol
[16:22:08] <+rickf> i wrestled in HS, did TKD in college, and really wanted to move into jujitsu but work got in the way
[16:22:25] <+rickf> jujitsu = FAR FAR more practical
[16:22:50] <+ajax> ya why I do not use wirless here in home.....'they' can hack & others.....but is a MAJOR health sisk, that folks are ignoring, but the studies prove it!!!....as a doc, I am on top of that topic as was an undegrad degree in environmental & occupational health
[16:23:06] <+ajax> yes...very practical & came in handy many times
[16:23:30] <+ajax> used to wokr out with the instructors of Steven Seagal, back in the 60's
[16:24:06] <+ajax> was trained in the only off Japan real smaurai school in the late 60's
[16:24:08] <+rickf> was quite handy to use wrestling moves (and a decent book knowledge of physiology) to help friends prep for belt tests
[16:24:22] <+rickf> nice! did you practice iado?
[16:24:27] <+ajax> y
[16:24:33] <+rickf>
[16:24:45] <+ajax> sword/blades is my specialty
[16:24:58] <+ajax> have a 300 year old katana... )
[16:25:12] <+rickf> very very nice ... have a friend well-versed in iado
[16:25:28] <+rickf> gave me an engraved katana for my phd graduation present.
[16:25:52] <+ajax> ya we trained with wodden blades, but tested with live baldes...the real deal....got cut many times in the learning process
[16:26:03] <+ajax> great
[16:26:07] <+rickf> nice little slice of life, eh?
[16:26:13] <+rickf> literally
[16:26:22] <+ajax> ah PhD in what topic?
[16:26:28] <+ajax> lol
[16:26:36] <+rickf> related to cybersecurity
[16:26:41] <+ajax> ah
[16:27:04] <+ajax> interesting, but beyond this simple doc mind...
[16:28:04] <+rickf> umm i think the markets are open tomorrow ... regular close for CME products according to my borker
[16:28:46] <+ajax> but like the topic.....my oldest freind in Toronto (53 years best buddies), was one of the first in that catagory in N. AMerica back in the early 80's at the beginning.....he used to get farmed out to 3 letter agancies & the RCMP's for operations.....back when was all new
[16:29:13] <+ajax> ya is half day for most of market is see
[16:29:18] <+ajax> i
[16:29:21] <+rickf> wasn't a fellow named sonny, was it?
[16:29:30] <+ajax> nope
[16:29:37] <+rickf> coolness
[16:29:41] <+ajax> can't say name, for obvious reasons
[16:29:52] <+rickf> no problems -- i used towork in that world
[16:30:08] <code> someone here who can use the macro to type a trades (e.g., white text of colored bg)
[16:30:25] <+rickf> not me - i don't use the script
[16:30:46] <+ajax> he & I had degree letter competions for fun in 70's & 80's....lol....man can the geek wolrd give out designations or what??!!....lol....I had 'legit' degrees, as I would throwe in his face....lol.
[16:31:41] <+ajax> ok, ya 'know' .....I was in ops back in da day too, so know from another angle... )
[16:32:03] <+rickf> no comment, wasn't here, didn't do it.....nothing more to see here move along lol
[16:32:10] <+rickf> how 'bout this weather we're having?
[16:32:20] <+rickf>
[16:32:26] <+ajax> about what??....have no idea what ya talkin about??!!... ))))
[16:32:34] <+ajax> lol
[16:32:36] <+rickf> EXACTLY.
[16:32:42] <+ajax> what???
[16:32:43] <+ajax> )
[16:33:03] <+rickf> great minds think alike i guess
[16:33:04] <+rickf>
[16:33:16] <+rickf> anyway i'm off for the evening -- see y'all tomorrow and/or next year !
[16:33:27] <+ajax> ya my skills got me in the deep chit back in 1970....lol
[16:33:37] <+rickf> ttfn
[16:33:39] <+ajax> ok, cya in morn...
[16:34:01] <+ajax> lol...that is one of my phrases..."ttfn"....loll
[16:34:52] <+code> wrb you there?
[16:36:22] <+ajax> ok, gotta run....gn all
[16:40:49] <+code> the reason i ask is that i've been using snak, which is a terrific irc client for mac, but a couple of years ago the last upgrade broke background text color
[16:41:13] <+code> which means i have to use a gray background, so i can read both balck and white text
[16:41:16] <+code> yuck
[16:41:27] <+code> and it's apparent the the guy isn't upgrading it anymore
[16:41:32] <+code> so trying other clients
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