#FuturesTrades is
free along with being a serious professional trading chat room and any trader can use the chat room to post their trades or commentaries involving futures, exchange traded funds or forex currencies.
This is not a signal calling chat room nor is the chat room designed to be educational. #FuturesTrades is designed to be a
trade journal for documentation purposes only so that members can have a time stamp archive of trades and market commentaries of each trading day so that they can better understand their broker statements from one trade to the next trade when they review their performance numbers on any given trading day. Yet, you will see members providing useful
trading tips that may or may not help with your trading.
Therefore, we welcome all traders with their own methods or different perspective of the markets as long as they do not violate our
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Thanks for reading the trades or market commentaries that's below and it's highly recommend you make reading of the logs a part of your trading routine because you will sometimes find useful
trading tips not discussed anywhere else online nor in any books.
Posted by M.A. Perry
Trader and Founder of
WRB Analysis (wide range body analysis)
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Session Start: Mon Jun 14 08:52:54 2010
Session Ident: #FuturesTrades
[08:52] * Now talking in #FuturesTrades
[08:52] <@X> [NihabaAshi] Announcement: The new trade posting script v3.7 (replaces v3.6) is posted at your forum in the "Announcements" thread.
[08:57] * wrtrader_away is now known as wrbtrader
[09:09] <rickf>
all
[09:29] <drt>
everyone
[09:34] <werner>
all
[09:35] <Sidhartha>
all
[09:36] <Inertia> good morning
[09:37] <+Inertia> has any 1 noticed whether on days without news )like 2day) and mondays in particular, has the market trended or was it range bound?
[09:41] <Tigerman> Hi all
[09:41] <+Tigerman> are all still on june contract or already roll on september?
[09:42] <+rickf> i rolled
[09:43] <+Tigerman> ok
[09:44] <Time4now> It's really coming down hard here in OK
[09:45] <pat255>
all
[09:45] <+pat255> running late
[09:45] <+pat255> @office
[09:53] <@wrbtrader> I'm not trading today...entire family is sick and I seem to have to worst of it.
[09:54] <+Time4now> that's no good
[09:54] <+Tigerman> wow stay well sonn wrb
[09:54] <+rickf> ;(
[09:56] <+pat255> oh my
[09:56] <+rickf> geez neurotic es this morning
[09:56] <+rickf> oh yeah - QUAD WITCH this week
[09:56] <+pat255> will be careful ...phone connecion @office
[09:56] <+Tigerman> yep crazy price action
[09:57] <+rickf> buckle up boyos, gonna be a bumpy ride
[09:57] <+Tigerman> price is very chaotic
[09:57] <+rickf> short es 1092
[09:57] <+Tigerman> any counterthrust is stopped on birth
[09:58] <+Tigerman> I just have done some small scalps
[09:58] <+Tigerman> only in small profit due to fast exit on first trades
[09:59] <+Tigerman> and get profit fast
[09:59] <+Tigerman> but not able to catch any runner until now
[09:59] <+Tigerman> because arent any to take
[09:59] <+rickf> out 1093 -1
[09:59] <+pat255> nq back inside first 10 min range
[10:01] <+rickf> 1 ct tried to predict a breakdown. duuuuuh i know better.
[10:01] <+pat255> y rick ..CT is tuff
[10:10] <@X> #FuturesTrades Purpose -> Members use this room to document (trade journal) their trades and thoughts from one trade to the next trade because it provides critical information they can't get from broker statements nor statistics. Also, mimicking the trades by others is not recommended. More info about the chat room @
http://www.thestrategylab.com/ftchat/forum[10:21] <+pat255> push up ...play L side on p/b
[10:34] <+Tigerman> LONG TF 658.5
[10:34] <+Tigerman> JUNe contract
[10:35] <+Tigerman> exit 1/2 658.6
[10:36] <+Tigerman> I need an up spike
[10:37] <+Tigerman> exir reaminer @658.6
[10:37] <+Tigerman> not confidend in this choppy price action so better exit
[10:41] <+rickf> yeah really. besides, 'tis almost gym time anyway. maybe the pm session will be better
[10:48] <+rickf>
[10:50] * +Time4now short tf 656.7
[10:57] * +Time4now out 657.6
[11:06] <+Tigerman> ok I got to go see all next time
[11:17] <+pat255> tryin to defend es 00 area
[11:40] <@X> #FuturesTrades Purpose -> Members use this room to document (trade journal) their trades and thoughts from one trade to the next trade because it provides critical information they can't get from broker statements nor statistics. Also, mimicking the trades by others is not recommended. More info about the chat room @
http://www.thestrategylab.com/ftchat/forum[12:05] <codehead> interactive brokers starting to piss me off
[12:18] <+Sidhartha> why?
[12:25] <+codehead> on phone support, i'll explain later
[12:26] <+Sidhartha> ok. i ask because I just reactivated my IB account... was gonna give them another crack
[12:27] <+codehead> i've had little problem till the past 3 days
[12:28] <+Sidhartha> do yu trade via a DOM...
[12:29] <+codehead> yes
[12:30] <+codehead> unbelievable, but they just instituted a confirmation dialog
[12:30] <+Sidhartha> which one...
[12:30] <+codehead> and if you use an auto-bracket, the confirmation pops up every time you try to move and order
[12:30] <+codehead> :-(
[12:30] <+codehead> con't disable it
[12:30] <+Sidhartha> ohh dear
[12:30] <+codehead> yep, management has ruled
[12:30] <+Sidhartha> which DOM is doing that...
[12:31] <+codehead> and... my bracket orders arent' working now
[12:31] <+codehead> and... if i try to lauch previous version, i get one form 6 months ago
[12:31] <+codehead> multiple p[roblems
[12:31] <+Sidhartha> nasty
[12:32] <+Sidhartha> bracket trader...
[12:34] <+codehead> you can alt-click and have a child, one-cancels-all, pair, a stop order and limit order target
[12:34] <+codehead> go in automatically when your parent order executes
[12:34] <+codehead> but, the target not working
[12:40] <+Sidhartha> codehead, you using a 3rd party dom...
[12:42] <+codehead> no
[12:46] <+Sidhartha> so you're using IB's book trader....
[12:48] <+codehead> omg, not again... line dropped
[12:51] <+codehead> yes, ib's booktrader
[12:51] <+codehead> well, this sucks, i jumped the gun shorting, then when it was good i was one the phone for an hour or so
[12:51] <+codehead> hm, at least anbd hour and a half
[12:51] <+codehead> so i'm down for the day, and missed the good ops
[12:52] <+codehead> NQ well below my lowest short
[12:53] * +Time4now short tf 657.3
[13:01] <+Sidhartha> codehead, any reason you don't use ZeroLine Trader (looks WAY better than IB's book trader)...
? Or indeed bracket trader...
[13:04] <+Time4now> too bad..
[13:04] * +Time4now out 657.1
[13:05] <+rickf> short es 1095.75
[13:07] <@X> #FuturesTrades Purpose -> Members use this room to document (trade journal) their trades and thoughts from one trade to the next trade because it provides critical information they can't get from broker statements nor statistics. Also, mimicking the trades by others is not recommended. More info about the chat room @
http://www.thestrategylab.com/ftchat/forum[13:08] <+codehead> well, i trade form Mac for one
[13:08] <+codehead> i run windows for esignal, so could run it form there
[13:08] <+Sidhartha> zero line trader is java... works on a mac
[13:08] <+codehead> hm, i'll check it out
[13:08] <+rickf> exit esw 1093.50 +2.25
[13:08] <+codehead> i think i looked at it once--on the PC anywqay
[13:08] <+Sidhartha> zero line trader is the only reason I got interested in IB again... because it looks like solid dom
[13:12] <+codehead> oil sure dumping
[14:28] * +Time4now long tf 651.7
[14:29] <+Time4now> bah, out be
[14:29] * +Time4now out be
[14:30] <+werner> gn all
[14:37] <@X> #FuturesTrades Purpose -> Members use this room to document (trade journal) their trades and thoughts from one trade to the next trade because it provides critical information they can't get from broker statements nor statistics. Also, mimicking the trades by others is not recommended. More info about the chat room @
http://www.thestrategylab.com/ftchat/forum[14:46] * +Time4now long tf 651.4
[14:54] <+Inertia> go Time4now go
[14:54] <+Inertia>
I am pushing 4 u
[14:57] <+Time4now> lol I already prepaired my "be" statement
[14:57] <+rickf> last hour is upon us
[14:58] <+Inertia> as in most days I am down in REAL and up in SIM
[14:58] <+rickf> why both?
[14:58] <+Inertia> i have 2 comps and i trade both
[14:59] <+Sidhartha> so what you doing different...
[14:59] <+Inertia> in sim I follow my rules and in real I don't
[14:59] <+rickf> same strategy / style / contract? maybe you're distracting yourself?
[14:59] <+Sidhartha> ohhh
[14:59] <+rickf> aha gotcha
[14:59] <+Inertia> there r 2 diffs
[14:59] * +Time4now out 653.4
[14:59] <+Sidhartha> yeah... sounds like you are doing too much...
[14:59] <+Inertia> in real I trade IWM and in sim I trade TF
[14:59] <+Sidhartha> it's hard enough in real, without having to run sim also
[15:00] <+rickf> suggestion: watch the real, but don't trade it if you're trading sim
[15:00] <+rickf> is what i do at times
[15:00] <+Time4now> That will counter the bad ones.
[15:00] <+Inertia> the other diff is that in sim I take my time and in real I force trades (I c stuff which is not there)
[15:00] <+rickf> BTDT, got the t-shirt
[15:00] <+Inertia> BTDT
??
[15:01] <+rickf> been there done that
[15:01] <+rickf>
[15:01] <+Inertia>
)
[15:02] <+Inertia> I did better than Friday though (which is not a big deal b/c on Friday I was wrong 90% of my live trade)
[15:02] <+Inertia> 2day I am 50/50
[15:02] <+rickf> beats 90/10 losses
[15:02] <+rickf> i am 1:1 today
[15:02] <+rickf> 1 win 1 loss
[15:03] <+Inertia> in sim I am ~65% win
[15:04] <+Inertia> I am telling this b/c there is an old native Indian story that says that if you tell your problems 2 enough people >>> they r not your problems any more
[15:04] <+rickf> gee thanks
[15:04] <+rickf> i don't want 'em
[15:04] <+rickf>
[15:04] <+Inertia>
))
[15:04] <+Inertia> ju r funny
[15:04] <+Inertia> they r free
[15:04] <+codehead> i got online a little too eager, lost on a YM trade, then two quick NQ trades, but jumped right back on the second and got some back, so 1-3
[15:05] <+codehead> then spent and hour and a half with IB, didn't trade after that
[15:05] <+rickf> that first one this morning was me breaking my rules. so it was a loss, i get what i deserve
[15:05] <+rickf> second was by the book and profitable, and i'm up on the day
[15:05] <+rickf> if i was less distracted i'd have been on that 1345 short, but i missed it and didn't chase. grrr, argh.
[15:06] <+Inertia> it is still a mistery why I (and others) trade NOT by the book.....
[15:06] <+Sidhartha> I'm up on the day... 1 winner... one I had my pocket picked and breakeven + a tick before the market continued in the profitable direction...
[15:06] <+Sidhartha> boredom I think...
[15:06] <+Sidhartha> frustration
[15:06] <+Sidhartha> greeg
[15:06] <+Sidhartha> greed even
[15:24] <+rickf> Moody's Cuts Greece Government Ratings to Junk (earlier today)
[15:26] <+rickf> short es 1090
[15:35] <+rickf> exit 1/2 es 1088 +2
[15:35] <+Time4now> Many distractions, I don't think I'll be able to make any more trades today
[15:36] <+rickf> exit 1/2 es 1086.75 +3.25
[15:36] <+rickf> h2
[15:37] <+Inertia> it's a beauty rickf
[15:37] <+rickf> stop at 1088 for +2 stop
[15:37] <+rickf> ty
[15:39] <+rickf> this is a summer 2007 trade
[15:39] <+rickf> except i am not in-and-out so much
[15:40] <+rickf> that year i was trading TONS of contracts per day
[15:42] <+codehead> ugh, all my trads were short today :-/
[15:43] <+rickf> stop at 87 for +3
[15:44] <+codehead> a while ago, had a feeling we might go for gap close
[15:44] <+codehead> the 60 min sure looked like it
[15:44] <+rickf> out at 1087 +3
[15:45] <+codehead> nice trade
[15:45] <+rickf> thx
[15:54] <+rickf> i will be in-and-out tomorrow and Wed ... got a ton of stuff going on
[15:56] <+Inertia> we r willy willy close to closing the gap on TF. the other ones closed it (gap to 4PM prior day)
[16:03] <+rickf> ok guys see you tomorrow
[16:04] <@X> #FuturesTrades Purpose -> Members use this room to document (trade journal) their trades and thoughts from one trade to the next trade because it provides critical information they can't get from broker statements nor statistics. Also, mimicking the trades by others is not recommended. More info about the chat room @
http://www.thestrategylab.com/ftchat/forum[16:08] <+Time4now> seeya
[17:34] <@X> #FuturesTrades Purpose -> Members use this room to document (trade journal) their trades and thoughts from one trade to the next trade because it provides critical information they can't get from broker statements nor statistics. Also, mimicking the trades by others is not recommended. More info about the chat room @
http://www.thestrategylab.com/ftchat/forum[18:03] <MrYinYangTrader> anyone here?
[18:09] <+MrYinYangTrader> early morning here in hong kong
Session Close: Mon Jun 14 22:04:59 2010
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