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 Post subject: September 21st Monday - Futures, ETFs and Forex
 Post Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 3:46 pm 
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Session Start: Mon Sep 21 09:25:32 2009
Session Ident: #futurestrades
[09:25] * Now talking in #futurestrades
[09:25] <@X> [NihabaAshi] Announcement: The new trade posting script v3.7 (replaces v3.6) is posted at your forum in the "Announcements" thread.
[09:28] <kosmipt> gm
[09:35] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> You must read #FuturesTrades purpose and benefits @ viewtopic.php?f=5&t=36 and TOU policy @ viewtopic.php?f=2&t=55 to prevent any misunderstandings.
[09:37] <Forex2stay> morning
[09:40] <jbuch> Long ES @ 1054.5
[09:45] <+jbuch> Exited all ES Long @ 1057.5 --> + 3
[09:46] <+Forex2stay> great start jb
[09:46] <+jbuch> thanks good way to start a monday :).
[09:52] <+Forex2stay> yes sir
[09:52] <+Forex2stay> anyone in here ever look into or use Access Database for the trading log?
[09:54] <@wrbtrader> Shorts ES @ 1055.75 -> large size
[09:54] <@wrbtrader> 9 only
[09:56] <@wrbtrader> what happen...it suddenly dropped without any warning ?
[09:56] <+Forex2stay> because you shorted it :)
[09:56] <@wrbtrader> :)
[09:57] <@wrbtrader> I'm just wondering if I missed a breaking news report or something.
[09:57] <+Forex2stay> not that i'm aware of
[09:58] <@wrbtrader> Ok...must be just an "early" reaction to a leaked 10am est Leading Indicators report.
[09:59] <+Forex2stay> 9 is that your large size wrbtrader?
[10:00] <@wrbtrader> 6 t0 9 is a large size for me
[10:00] <codehead> report time
[10:00] <+jbuch> Shorts ES @ 1052.75
[10:02] <@wrbtrader> Covered all ES Short @ 1053.25 --> + 2.5
[10:02] <+jbuch> Covered all ES Short @ 1053.25 --> - 0.5
[10:04] <@wrbtrader> Long ES @ 1054.00 -> small size
[10:04] <@wrbtrader> 3 only
[10:07] <+jbuch> Shorts ES @ 1054
[10:09] <@wrbtrader> just chop and price noise in this price area
[10:10] <@wrbtrader> Exited all ES Long @ 1053.00 --> - 1
[10:11] <+jbuch> Covered all ES Short @ 1053.75 --> + 0.25
[10:11] <@wrbtrader> Shorts ES @ 1053.75 -> medium size
[10:11] <@wrbtrader> 4 only
[10:12] <+jbuch> Long ES @ 1053.5
[10:15] <@wrbtrader> It's choppy because volatility has contracted in other key markets like Gold and Oil
[10:15] <@wrbtrader> Covered all ES Short @ 1054.50 --> - 0.75
[10:16] <+jbuch> Exited all ES Long @ 1054.75 --> + 1.25
[10:16] <+Forex2stay> Reminder we have FOMC Statement and Funds Rate this Wednesday..
[10:16] <@wrbtrader> Shorts ES @ 1053.75 -> large size
[10:16] <@wrbtrader> 6 only
[10:17] <+jbuch> phew glad I decided to take it at first profit target
[10:18] <+Forex2stay> by the way if anyone is looking for a good book for their library i just finished reading "The Intuitive Trader" by Robert Koppel.
[10:18] <+Forex2stay> i thought i was a really good read
[10:18] <+Forex2stay> i=it
[10:23] <@wrbtrader> Covered all ES Short @ 1055.75 --> - 2
[10:28] <+jbuch> not so glad now
[10:32] <@wrbtrader> Shorts ES @ 1055.25 -> large size
[10:32] <@wrbtrader> 6 only
[10:34] <@wrbtrader> Market not too far from it's open...meaning we really haven't gone anywhere that's directional.
[10:39] <@wrbtrader> Covered all ES Short @ 1054.00 --> + 1.25
[10:46] <+jbuch> thanks for the book suggestion forex
[10:47] <+Forex2stay> yw
[10:56] <Forex2stay> well my APC battery backup just got it's first test...lost power and my trading station stayed powered on, so i guess it works
[10:58] <OICU812> GM
[11:00] <+jbuch> Long ES @ 1055.75
[11:07] <+jbuch> Exited 1/2 ES Long @ 1058 --> + 2.25
[11:12] <+jbuch> Exited Remainder ES Long @ 1059 --> + 3.25
[11:14] <+Forex2stay> nice read jb
[11:16] <+jbuch> thanks ,think we r going to test 65 but didn't have the discipline to move my stop up
[11:18] <luffy> gm
[11:18] <+luffy> long sso 34.85
[11:18] <+luffy> for a swing
[11:28] <+Forex2stay> i know what you mean jb...i was in a EURUSD long at the same time and took profits a little to quick also.
[11:30] <+OICU812> im playing that same long
[11:30] <+OICU812> took profit on half and holding on to half
[11:30] <+Forex2stay> nice
[11:30] <+OICU812> but
[11:30] <+OICU812> not sure about the other half
[11:31] <+OICU812> dont know if it still has the juice to keep going up
[11:34] <+OICU812> no strength
[11:41] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> You must read #FuturesTrades purpose and benefits @ viewtopic.php?f=5&t=36 and TOU policy @ viewtopic.php?f=2&t=55 to prevent any misunderstandings.
[11:42] <luffy> oic, u still long? this area is important.. pclose, globex hi
[11:42] <+luffy> i'm gonna hold through this
[11:44] <+OICU812> yes im still long
[11:44] <+OICU812> 59 my exit for now
[11:44] <+luffy> kool
[11:53] <+OICU812> think i need to give it a bit more room than 59
[11:53] <+luffy> could test 58
[11:54] <+luffy> my stop is 1 pt below 58 in SSO eqivalant
[11:56] <rickf> gmall
[11:56] <+rickf> gm all
[11:56] <+luffy> gm
[11:57] <+rickf> early trade: sold Oct SPX bearish call vertical 1105/1110
[12:00] <+kosmipt> Obama speaking
[12:05] <+luffy> this consolidation is taking awhile up here.. tick going into negative territory
[12:30] <@wrbtrader> Dollar Gains Ground Ahead of FED Meeting @ http://www.marketwatch.com/story/dollar ... 2009-09-21
[12:30] <@wrbtrader> I think the U.S. Dollar usually gains in the few days prior to a G 20 meeting.
[13:02] <+luffy> wonder if 58 will hold here
[13:02] <+luffy> dollar still going up...
[13:44] <+Forex2stay> boubt ready to fall alseep here...grabbing some lunch bbl
[13:47] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> You must read #FuturesTrades purpose and benefits @ viewtopic.php?f=5&t=36 and TOU policy @ viewtopic.php?f=2&t=55 to prevent any misunderstandings.
[14:25] <+rickf> ughly day
[14:25] <+rickf> :(
[14:30] <+jbuch> Long ES @ 1058.5
[14:37] <+jbuch> Exited all ES Long @ 1058.75 --> + 0.25
[14:37] <+codehead> btw, 1061.50 was .500 retracement from the 1071.50 high to today low, and .618 from 1067.75 high, so no accident it stopped there earlier
[14:42] <+jbuch> Long ES @ 1059.25
[14:42] <+jbuch> meant to put my order at 59
[14:44] <+jbuch> Exited all ES Long @ 1059 --> - 0.25
[14:45] <+kosmipt> really choppy
[14:45] <+kosmipt> i should seriously consider trading only first 2 hours
[14:46] <+jbuch> a lot to be said for that
[14:49] <+rickf> post-quad-witch funk?
[14:49] <+rickf> sloooooow
[14:49] <+jbuch> Long ES @ 1060
[14:49] <+rickf> i like the am session myself
[14:50] <+Forex2stay> maybe pre-FOMC
[14:50] <+rickf> why....they cant raise rates yet :)
[14:51] <+rickf> end of quarter comign up too
[14:51] <+Forex2stay> nothing they do would surprise me this point....
[14:52] <+rickf> i am neither bullish nor bearish
[14:52] <+jbuch> Exited 1/2 ES Long @ 1060.5 --> + 0.5
[14:52] <+rickf> i think we're overdue for a major pullback but will play it as it comes if it comes when it comes
[14:53] <+Forex2stay> i've only had 3 trades today, and closed my last one over 2hrs ago...pretty boring
[14:57] <+jbuch> Exited Remainder ES Long @ 1060.25 --> + 0.25
[14:59] <+rickf> last hour
[14:59] <+Forex2stay> good news is i've done better today...typically i would get chopped to pieces on a day like today
[14:59] <+rickf> yeah knowing when to sit out is a big plus
[15:07] <@wrbtrader> Not much to bite on after 1145am est
[15:10] <+kosmipt> yes, it's just pathetic, trade first 2 hours and be done
[15:10] <+Forex2stay> yes...think i'm going to have to start getting up and trading the European session again on EURUSD.
[15:12] <+kosmipt> EUREX DAX futures provide decent volatility during european hours
[15:12] <+Forex2stay> it gives me a better feel for the NY session anyway...just real lonely at that time, don't know any FX chatrooms or traders to hang it in/with.
[15:13] <+kosmipt> maybe they re just waiting for fed decision
[15:28] <+luffy> price fianlly broke up
[15:33] <+Forex2stay> cancelling remaining orders and calling it quits for the day.
[15:33] <+Forex2stay> catch you all tomorrow
[15:35] <+rickf> cya
[15:37] <+jbuch> Shorts ES @ 1059
[15:40] <+jbuch> Shorts ES @ 1059.5 -> Add
[15:47] <+jbuch> Covered all ES Short @ 1058.75 --> + 1
[15:49] <@wrbtrader> Shorts ES @ 1058.50 -> medium size
[15:49] <@wrbtrader> 4 only
[15:49] <@wrbtrader> trader error but I'm going to stick with it
[15:50] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> You must read #FuturesTrades purpose and benefits @ viewtopic.php?f=5&t=36 and TOU policy @ viewtopic.php?f=2&t=55 to prevent any misunderstandings.
[15:51] <+rickf> meh did my morning trade - rest of day been a wash
[15:51] <+rickf> see y'all tomorrow
[15:52] <@wrbtrader> Covered all ES Short @ 1058.50 --> 0
[15:53] <@wrbtrader> nice fight by ES to stay up because other key markets had some downside pressure.
[15:59] <@wrbtrader> Long ES @ 1060.00 -> medium size
[15:59] <@wrbtrader> 4 only
[16:01] <@wrbtrader> Exited all ES Long @ 1059.25 --> - 0.75
[16:05] <@wrbtrader> FYI - In the past years there use to be a ton of volatility from 3:45pm to 4:15pm est...
[16:06] <@wrbtrader> This was mainly due to institutionals, large professional traders and swing position traders setting up their positions.
[16:06] <@wrbtrader> So far this year the volatility has declined in that trading area.
[16:07] <@wrbtrader> Reason why I still think there's a ton of money still on the sidelines eventhough the market has bounced strongly off its lows March 2009
[16:14] <+codehead> looking like ES might close unchanged

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