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 Post subject: September 8th Tuesday 2009 - Futures, ETFs and Forex
 Post Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 3:43 pm 
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Session Start: Tue Sep 08 09:14:38 2009
Session Ident: #futurestrades
[09:14] * Now talking in #futurestrades
[09:14] <@X> [NihabaAshi] Announcement: The new trade posting script v3.7 (replaces v3.6) is posted at your forum in the "Announcements" thread.
[09:17] * Forex2stay_Away is now known as Forex2stay
[09:29] <jbuch> morning everyone
[09:29] <Nesi> morning
[09:30] <Tigerman> Hi morning all
[09:30] <Forex2stay> morning
[09:32] <@wrbtrader> EuroFX up big time while the U.S. Dollar is getting killed
[09:32] <+Tigerman> yep if they continue with easy quantitize..
[09:35] <+Tigerman> Shorts ES @ 1024.75 «« paper »»
[09:35] <+Tigerman> Covered 1/2 ES Short @ 1024.5 --> + 0.25 «« paper »»
[09:35] <+Tigerman> Covered Remainder ES Short @ 1024.25 --> + 0.5 «« paper »»
[09:36] <+Tigerman> very hard to trade and post here in time...
[09:36] <@wrbtrader> Are you trying to scalp ?
[09:36] <+Tigerman> yes
[09:37] <+Tigerman> still try to manage my aggressive temper :)
[09:37] <@wrbtrader> Just post one trade only because I don't recommend scalpers trying to post every or most of their trades in a chat room...
[09:37] <+Tigerman> but fight with commission :(
[09:37] <@wrbtrader> Too much of a distraction.
[09:38] <+Tigerman> sure...right
[09:38] <+Tigerman> infact in this case was nice to keeo the second contract but fear always arise..
[09:39] <+jbuch> Long ES @ 123.5
[09:40] <@wrbtrader> Shorts ES @ 1022.75 -> large size
[09:40] <@wrbtrader> 6 only
[09:40] <@wrbtrader> :(
[09:40] <+jbuch> Exited all ES Long @ 122.75 --> - 0.75
[09:40] <@wrbtrader> geeesh
[09:41] <@wrbtrader> data stall caused a late entry
[09:41] <+Tigerman> Shorts ES @ 1022.75 «« paper »»
[09:41] <+Tigerman> Covered all ES Short @ 1022.25 --> + 0.5 «« paper »»
[09:42] <+Tigerman> used only one contract but if used 2 can keep the second :(
[09:42] <+Tigerman> nice nihaba
[09:42] <pdays> Shorts TF @ 572.6
[09:43] <+pdays> Covered all TF Short @ 571.8 --> + 0.8
[09:45] <+Tigerman> will see if some support is forming
[09:46] <+jbuch> Long ES @ 1021.5
[09:47] <+Tigerman> Long ES @ 1022 «« paper »»
[09:47] <+Tigerman> Exited all ES Long @ 1022.25 --> + 0.25 «« paper »»
[09:48] <@wrbtrader> Covered all ES Short @ 1022.25 --> + 0.5
[09:51] <+jbuch> Exited all ES Long @ 1022.5 --> + 1
[09:51] <+Nesi> you still holding gold.. jbuch..?
[09:52] <@wrbtrader> Shorts ES @ 1022.25 -> large size
[09:53] <@wrbtrader> 6 only
[09:54] <+jbuch> yeah nes
[09:56] <+jbuch> hadn't looked gold yet
[09:56] <+jbuch> big pop
[09:56] <+Tigerman> Shorts ES @ 1022.75 «« paper »»
[09:56] <+Tigerman> Covered 1/2 ES Short @ 1022.5 --> + 0.25 «« paper »»
[09:56] <@wrbtrader> Covered all ES Short @ 1022.00 --> + 0.25
[09:57] <+Tigerman> Covered Remainder ES Short @ 1022.25 --> + 0.5 «« paper »»
[09:57] <@wrbtrader> Starting to look like 1022 had developed into a piviot point
[09:58] <+jbuch> I think your right wrbtrader
[09:59] <@wrbtrader> Shorts ES @ 1021.75 -> large size
[09:59] <+jbuch> Long ES @ 1022
[09:59] <@wrbtrader> Covered all ES Short @ 1022.00 --> - 0.25
[09:59] <+jbuch> damn
[09:59] <@wrbtrader> going to do a quick reboot...too many data stalls causing poor entries.
[10:00] <@wrbtrader> be cack in about 5mins.
[10:00] <+jbuch> Exited Remainder ES Long @ 1021.25 --> - 0.75
[10:00] <+jbuch> Long ES @ 1021.75
Session Close: Tue Sep 08 10:02:19 2009

Session Start: Tue Sep 08 10:02:19 2009
Session Ident: #futurestrades
[10:02] * Disconnected
Session Close: Tue Sep 08 10:02:19 2009

Session Start: Tue Sep 08 10:08:41 2009
Session Ident: #futurestrades
[10:08] * Now talking in #futurestrades
[10:08] <@X> [NihabaAshi] Announcement: The new trade posting script v3.7 (replaces v3.6) is posted at your forum in the "Announcements" thread.
[10:11] <+Nesi> Long ES @ 1021.00 «« simulator »»
[10:13] <+Nesi> Exited all ES Long @ 1022.00 --> + 35 «« simulator »»
[10:13] <+Nesi> plus 1
[10:14] <+jbuch> Long ES @ 1022.25
[10:17] <+Nesi> Shorts ES @ 1021.75 «« simulator »»
[10:18] <+jbuch> Long ES @ 1021.75 -> Add
[10:24] <+Nesi> Covered all ES Short @ 1023.00 --> - 1.25 «« simulator »»
[10:31] <werner> hi all
[10:32] <+jbuch> Exited 1/2 ES Long @ 1023.75 --> + 2
[10:36] <+jbuch> Exited Remainder ES Long @ 1024.75 --> + 2.5
[10:37] <+Nesi> nice trade
[10:37] <+jbuch> amazing what being down and pissed will do for ya
[10:38] <+jbuch> :)
[10:42] <@wrbtrader> Shorts ES @ 1024.00 -> large size
[10:42] <@wrbtrader> 6 only
[10:49] <+jbuch> Long ES @ 1024
[10:51] <@wrbtrader> Covered all ES Short @ 1024..75 --> + 1024.00 - 1024..75
[10:52] <@wrbtrader> correction
[10:52] <@wrbtrader> Covered all ES Short @ 1024.75 --> - 0.75
[10:53] <+jbuch> Exited all ES Long @ 1024.25 --> + 0.25
[10:53] <@wrbtrader> Shorts ES @ 1024.50 -> large size
[10:54] <+jbuch> rejected from what was the up trendline
[10:57] <@wrbtrader> Covered all ES Short @ 1025.00 --> - 0.5
[11:00] <+jbuch> Long ES @ 1025
[11:01] <@wrbtrader> Long ES @ 1025.25 -> large size
[11:01] <@wrbtrader> 6 only
[11:03] <+jbuch> Exited all ES Long @ 1024.75 --> - 0.25
[11:05] <@wrbtrader> Exited all ES Long @ 1024.50 --> - 0.75
[11:06] <+Nesi> Shorts ES @ 1024.25 «« simulator »»
[11:06] <+jbuch> Long ES @ 1024.5
[11:09] <+jbuch> vol very anemic on the way up
[11:09] <+jbuch> in line on
[11:09] <+jbuch> the way down
[11:10] <+jbuch> Exited all ES Long @ 1023.25 --> - 1.25
[11:13] <@wrbtrader> Shorts ES @ 1023.75 -> large size
[11:13] <@wrbtrader> 9 only
[11:14] <+jbuch> Long ES @ 1024
[11:14] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> You must read #FuturesTrades purpose and benefits @ viewtopic.php?f=5&t=36 and TOU policy @ viewtopic.php?f=2&t=55 to prevent any misunderstandings.
[11:21] <+Tigerman> in consolidating mode
[11:21] <+Tigerman> have to exit see ya next time bye
[11:22] <@wrbtrader> Covered all ES Short @ 1024.25 --> - 0.5
[11:26] <@wrbtrader> Long ES @ 1024.75 -> large size
[11:26] <@wrbtrader> 9 only
[11:26] <@wrbtrader> between two key price areas
[11:26] <@wrbtrader> so far can't exploit the support nor resistance :(
[11:28] <+jbuch> everybody buy please
[11:32] <@wrbtrader> Exited all ES Long @ 1024.25 --> - 0.5
[11:32] <+jbuch> Exited all ES Long @ 1023.75 --> - 0.25
[11:32] <@wrbtrader> back at the support area
[11:32] <@wrbtrader> range getting smaller
[11:36] <@wrbtrader> Shorts ES @ 1023.50 -> large size
[11:36] <+jbuch> Long ES @ 1023.5
[11:36] <@wrbtrader> 9 only
[11:37] <+jbuch> 1 only
[11:38] <+jbuch> Exited all ES Long @ 1022.75 --> - 0.75
[11:41] <+werner> Long NQ @ 1649.25
[11:41] <+jbuch> Long ES @ 1023
[11:43] <+jbuch> Exited all ES Long @ 1022.25 --> - 0.75
[11:43] <+werner> Exited all NQ Long @ 1647.75 --> - 1.5
[11:44] <@wrbtrader> Covered all ES Short @ 1022.00 --> + 1.5
[11:44] <@wrbtrader> that helps but I'm really not getting anywhere today :(
[11:44] <+jbuch> same here
[11:45] <+jbuch> was hoping everybody would be back from vaca and the volatility would pick up
[11:47] <@wrbtrader> same here
[11:50] <+jbuch> vol is way below avg it is just us retail guys beating the crap out of each other
[11:57] <+Nesi> exit stop set ES @ 1025.00 «« simulator »»
[12:29] <+Nesi> euro strong
[12:30] <+Nesi> wonder if it has power to aim for 1.46 or so short term
[13:06] <+jbuch> Long ES @ 1022.75
[13:10] <+jbuch> Exited all ES Long @ 1022.5 --> - 0.25
[13:14] <+jbuch> treasuryaucton just finished
[13:19] <+jbuch> Long ES @ 1021.5
[13:20] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> You must read #FuturesTrades purpose and benefits @ viewtopic.php?f=5&t=36 and TOU policy @ viewtopic.php?f=2&t=55 to prevent any misunderstandings.
[13:22] <JimL14> how did u know & monitor JB?
[13:23] <+jbuch> reported on market watch
[13:23] <+JimL14> Thk U ;>
[13:23] <+jbuch> didn't monitor it just saw the results
[13:25] <+jbuch> Exited all ES Long @ 1021.75 --> + 0.25
[13:25] <+JimL14> i didn't have all my Blmbrg, FinViz, or MktWatch on,now I'm reading http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid= ... A94SAg2ZoY
[13:26] <+jbuch> was confused so bailed
[13:27] <+JimL14> I think with US govment borrowing @ all time high the economic news alerts s/b covering the dates/times, its blipped the mrkt now a few times right after the articles are read
[13:28] <+jbuch> the correlation with the market confuses me
[13:30] <+jbuch> keep forgetting to check when the auctions are. good time to be out of the market around anouncment time
[13:30] <+JimL14> i don't yet understand the relevance & correlation of the specific auction resulkts, but the releases of the info tweeks the emnins
[13:31] <+jbuch> yeah for sure
[13:33] <+jbuch> I don't think the market understands it either
[13:34] <+jbuch> damned if it is a good auction and screwed if it fails
[13:36] <+jbuch> oil right up around its high of day everything else looks like it is about to collapse to me
[13:40] <TarderG> looks like things will pop
[13:41] <+jbuch> looks like ur right
[13:41] <+TarderG> 3:00pm USD Consumer Credit m/m
[13:42] <+TarderG> EJ is at a RENKO peak
[13:42] <+jbuch> poking above the down tl
[13:49] <+TarderG> it seems that I was wrong
[13:50] <+TarderG> no pop yet
[13:53] <+jbuch> Long ES @ 1021.25
[13:54] <+jbuch> chased it
[13:55] <+jbuch> i was like 1 second to late to catch it at 20.5
[13:59] <+jbuch> at the trend again
[14:01] <+jbuch> Exited all ES Long @ 1022.5 --> + 1.25
[14:02] <+jbuch> expanding triangle
[14:06] <+jbuch> what a trainwreck
[14:10] <+jbuch> Long ES @ 1022
[14:16] <+werner> Shorts NQ @ 1649.00
[14:17] <+werner> Covered all NQ Short @ 1647.50 --> + 1.5
[14:18] <+jbuch> Exited all ES Long @ 1022.25 --> + 0.25
[14:18] <+jbuch> Shorts ES @ 1022
[14:19] <+werner> Shorts NQ @ 1648.50
[14:19] <+jbuch> had an extra short at 1022.25
[14:19] <+jbuch> by accident
[14:19] <+werner> :)
[14:20] <+jbuch> moved so fast I gat a shittyfill to boot
[14:20] <+jbuch> hopefullly it ends witha smilley face
[14:20] <+werner> brr
[14:23] <+jbuch> Covered all ES Short @ 1022.75 --> - 0.75
[14:23] <+werner> Covered all NQ Short @ 1649.00 --> - 0.5
[14:25] <+jbuch> this is thesame range from 8/21
[14:26] <+jbuch> we were caught here for several hours
[14:26] <+werner> yep
[14:33] <+werner> Shorts NQ @ 1649.25
[14:36] <+jbuch> Long ES @ 1023
[14:40] <+werner> Covered all NQ Short @ 1650.75 --> - 1.5
[14:42] <+werner> Shorts NQ @ 1650.75
[14:42] <+jbuch> Exited all ES Long @ 1023.75 --> + 0.75
[14:45] <+jbuch> Long ES @ 1024
[14:47] <+jbuch> Exited all ES Long @ 1023.5 --> - 0.5
[14:51] <+jbuch> Long ES @ 1023.75
[14:51] <+jbuch> keep forgetting to push enter
[14:52] <codehead> consumer credit at top of hour
[14:52] <+jbuch> Exited all ES Long @ 1024 --> + 0.25
[14:57] <+codehead> short 1025.00 ES <paper>
[14:57] <+codehead> against the trend... just tracking tick fade on paper
[14:57] <+codehead> target 1022.00, stop 1028.00
[14:58] <+codehead> dicey because 1022 suppport
[14:59] <+codehead> whoops, target 1023.00
[15:00] <+jbuch> Shorts ES @ 1024
[15:00] <+codehead> exit ES +2.00 <paper>
[15:02] <+jbuch> Covered all ES Short @ 1023.5 --> + 0.5
[15:02] <+jbuch> nice entry code
[15:05] <+jbuch> Shorts ES @ 1023
[15:05] <+jbuch> cc is horrible
[15:06] <+codehead> doesn't look likely we'll break 1025.5 lid
[15:07] <+jbuch> maybe that is not a bad thing though
[15:07] <+werner> Covered all NQ Short @ 1648.25 --> + 2.5
[15:07] <+werner> pfff
[15:07] <+jbuch> nice werner
[15:08] <+werner> :)
[15:08] <+werner> it took a long time :(
[15:09] <+jbuch> Covered all ES Short @ 1022.75 --> + 0.25
[15:16] <+werner> Long NQ @ 1649.25
[15:16] <+jbuch> Long ES @ 1023.25
[15:16] <+jbuch> :)
[15:16] <+werner> lol
[15:19] <+JimL14> 3:00pm USD Consumer Credit m/m -21.6Bact -3.8Best -15.5Bprev
[15:22] <+jbuch> Exited all ES Long @ 1022.75 --> - 0.5
[15:22] <+jbuch> Long ES @ 1023
[15:23] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> You must read #FuturesTrades purpose and benefits @ viewtopic.php?f=5&t=36 and TOU policy @ viewtopic.php?f=2&t=55 to prevent any misunderstandings.
[15:24] <+werner> Exited all NQ Long @ 1651.25 --> + 2
[15:25] <+werner> i cant hold it :(
[15:28] <+werner> go go es
[15:31] <+jbuch> jeeze go or take me out
[15:33] <+werner> i pray for you :)
[15:34] <+werner> go go
[15:34] <+jbuch> lol
[15:34] <+jbuch> u and my mom
[15:34] <+werner> hihi
[15:35] <+jbuch> here we go
[15:35] <+werner> yep
[15:36] <+werner> ai that 25.50
[15:36] <+jbuch> Exited all ES Long @ 1024.5 --> + 1.5
[15:36] <+jbuch> bummer
[15:37] <+jbuch> brb
[15:37] <+werner> nice :)
[15:38] <+codehead> vn
[15:40] <+werner> done here....gn all
[15:40] <+codehead> cya
[15:41] <+werner> cya codehead
[15:48] <@wrbtrader> very slow day
[15:48] <@wrbtrader> I'm sitting on a small loss for the day but won't complain because it could have been a lot worst due to how the volatility has dried up most of the trading day.
[15:49] <kosmipt> 6 pt range on emini ES, pathetic
[15:49] <+jbuch> Long ES @ 1024.25
[15:49] <+jbuch> yeah tough day
[15:52] <+jbuch> range is barely bigger than yesterdays so far
[15:54] <+jbuch> hanging on to everything longer than usual cause I am hoping it might breakout and expand the range.
[15:54] <@wrbtrader> Long ES @ 1024.75 -> medium size
[15:54] <@wrbtrader> 5 only
[15:56] <+jbuch> man this the seveenth time today that we have been up here
[15:56] <@wrbtrader> Exited all ES Long @ 1024.75 --> 0
[15:57] <@wrbtrader> Long ES @ 1024.50 -> medium size
[15:57] <@wrbtrader> 5 only
[16:00] <@wrbtrader> even the closing price action lacking in volatility
[16:01] <@wrbtrader> Exited all ES Long @ 1024.25 --> - 0.25
[16:02] <@wrbtrader> Shorts ES @ 1024.50 -> large size
[16:02] <@wrbtrader> 6 only
[16:04] <@wrbtrader> The only thing good about today is that the market will WANT to be more active tomorrow
[16:04] <@wrbtrader> Hopefully it sets up a strong directional price movement tomorrow.
[16:09] <+jbuch> Exited all ES Long @ 1024.75 --> + 0.5
[16:13] <+jbuch> a fitting ending
[16:13] <@wrbtrader> true
[16:15] <jigglyhippo> hey guys we rollover on thursday?
[16:15] <@wrbtrader> Covered all ES Short @ 1025.00 --> - 0.5
[16:15] <@wrbtrader> Yes
[16:15] <@wrbtrader> should be
[16:16] <@wrbtrader> I average now about 1 losing trading day per month but usually won't get the loss until towards the end of the month when I become too aggressive.
[16:17] <@wrbtrader> Getting a loss today when not aggressive is very unusual.
[16:17] <@wrbtrader> Hopefully the volatility picks up this week to prevent a difficult short week of trading.
[16:19] <+jigglyhippo> yeah should pick up next week, maybe not this week due to rollover
[16:22] <+jbuch> wrbtrader do u feel as though there is some pressure off since u don't have to try and maintan ur winning streak
[16:38] <@wrbtrader> jbuch...I intentionally ended my win streak not too long ago to get rid of the pressure.
[16:39] <@wrbtrader> Mainly due to the fact that the volatility dried up this year and maintaining that streak was extremely difficult considering the streak occurred during high volatility trading conditions.
[16:42] <@wrbtrader> Take care all and see all tomorrow.
[16:43] * wrbtrader is now known as wrbtrader_away

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