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Session Start: Fri Jun 26 08:08:30 2009
Session Ident: #futurestrades
[08:08] * Now talking in #futurestrades
[08:08] <@X> [NihabaAshi] Announcement: The new trade posting script v3.7 (replaces v3.6) is posted at your forum in the "Announcements" thread.
[08:43] <rickf> long es 914 paper
[08:50] <Nesi> Shorts ES @ 913.00
[08:50] <+Nesi> 2
[08:53] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Members use this room to document (trade journal) their trades and thoughts from one trade to the next trade. 2009 chat logs stored @ viewforum.php?f=20 and chat logs prior to 2009 are stored @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/ArchivedPastTrades.htm. Also, do not mimic (shadow) trades of others without their permission.
[09:29] <drt> everyone
[09:29] <jigglyhippo> all
[09:30] <+rickf> out 913.25 +.25
[09:31] <+rickf> russell rebalancing today
[09:35] <@NihabaAshi> thanks rickf
[09:35] <+rickf> np
[09:35] <@NihabaAshi> Good morning all
[09:35] <@NihabaAshi> FYI - My trade journal for yesterday's trading session June 25th Thurs is updated with market summaries from bloomberg video, CNNmoney.com and Yahoo! Finance @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/tsl/forum ... f=62&t=232
[09:36] <+rickf> short es 913.75
[09:39] <werner> all
[09:39] <+rickf> hi werner
[09:39] <pdays> Long TF @ 504.7
[09:39] <@NihabaAshi> Long ES @ 9143.75 -> medium size
[09:39] <@NihabaAshi> 4 only
[09:39] <+pdays> Exited all TF Long @ 505.2 --> + 0.5
[09:39] <jbuch> Long ES @ 013.75
[09:39] <+rickf> out 913.75 b/e
[09:39] <+Reno> Long NQ @ 1472.75 «« paper »»
[09:40] <+jigglyhippo> lol typos in the morning
[09:40] <@NihabaAshi> poor entry...may dump and try again
[09:40] * +rickf figures
[09:40] <+rickf> GRRR
[09:40] <@NihabaAshi> Exited all ES Long @ 913.75 --> - 8230
[09:40] <+rickf> well choppy start, better flat i guess
[09:41] <@NihabaAshi> sorry about that...entry was incorrect to cause the bad math.
[09:41] <@NihabaAshi> Out at breakeven
[09:41] <wangsta> short913.75
[09:42] <+wangsta> stopped
[09:42] <+werner> hi rickf
[09:42] <OICU812> Good morning
[09:42] <+werner> oic
[09:44] <+Reno> Exited 2/3 NQ Long @ 1476.75 --> + 4 «« paper »»
[09:44] <+jbuch> Exited all ES Long @ 915.25 --> + 901.5
[09:45] <+rickf> short es 916
[09:45] <+jbuch> dang it there it hit my profit target right after I bailed
[09:46] <+jbuch> entry was 913.75
[09:48] <+jbuch> had an extremely high vol close at 92 on spy which is comprable to 916 on ES
[09:48] <@NihabaAshi> Shorts ES @ 914.75 -> medium size
[09:49] <@NihabaAshi> 4 only
[09:49] <+Reno> Exited all NQ Long @ 1473.75 --> + 1 «« paper »»
[09:50] <@NihabaAshi> News - U.S. Stocks, Dollar Decline on China Calls for World Currency @ http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid= ... GrlyCGwYwk
[09:51] <+rickf> out 913.75 +2.25
[09:51] <+Reno> Shorts NQ @ 1473.50 «« paper »»
[09:51] <@NihabaAshi> Covered 1/2 ES Short @ 912.75 --> + 2
[09:51] <+jigglyhippo> nice
[09:52] <@NihabaAshi> got 1 point more than my profit target
[09:53] <@NihabaAshi> oh oh
[09:54] <+Reno> Covered all NQ Short @ 1476.50 --> - 3 «« paper »»
[09:54] <@NihabaAshi> tighten trailing stop @ profit
[09:55] <@NihabaAshi> Covered all ES Short @ 914.50 --> + 0.25
[09:56] <@NihabaAshi> nasty retracement after the pop to the upside
[09:56] <+rickf> consumer confidence numbers out early
[09:56] <+rickf> better than expected
[09:56] <+drt> l es 13.50
[09:57] <+Reno> Shorts NQ @ 1472.75 «« paper »»
[09:59] <+OICU812> sorry forgot to post my trades here
[10:01] <+OICU812> long 911.00
[10:02] <+OICU812> 91.5 Scale out
[10:02] <+Reno> Covered all NQ Short @ 1472.75 --> 0 «« paper »»
[10:03] <+OICU812> 912.5 scale out
[10:03] <+drt> cl es 12.50
[10:04] <+OICU812> all out 911.75
[10:06] <@NihabaAshi> Long ES @ 911.75 -> small size
[10:06] <@NihabaAshi> 2 only
[10:06] <+Reno> Shorts NQ @ 1471.75 «« paper »»
[10:06] <@NihabaAshi> Exited all ES Long @ 910.75 --> - 1
[10:08] <+OICU812> Long ES 910.5
[10:09] <@NihabaAshi> Long ES @ 911.25 -> small size
[10:09] <@NihabaAshi> 3 only
[10:10] <+OICU812> Scale out 911.5
[10:12] <@NihabaAshi> Exited all ES Long @ 911.50 --> + 0.25
[10:13] <+OICU812> Exit all 911.5
[10:14] <@NihabaAshi> Shorts ES @ 910.25 -> small size
[10:14] <@NihabaAshi> 1 only
[10:14] <+Reno> Shorts NQ @ 1468.75 -> Add «« paper »»
[10:14] <@NihabaAshi> a little lost on this short (prior order not cancelled)
[10:14] <@NihabaAshi> looking for an exit
[10:15] <@NihabaAshi> Covered ES Short @ 910.50 --> - 0.25
[10:16] <@NihabaAshi> had it creeped down without the volatility...I would have kepted the trade after the fill.
[10:16] <@NihabaAshi> instead it took me in on a volatility spike
[10:18] <@NihabaAshi> Long ES @ 911.75 -> small size
[10:18] <@NihabaAshi> 3 only
[10:18] <@NihabaAshi> intuition in reaction to prior trade signal
[10:19] <@NihabaAshi> in refrence to the Long position
[10:20] <+OICU812> thinking of taking a long after this retrace
[10:20] <@NihabaAshi>
[10:20] <+wangsta> s912
[10:21] <@NihabaAshi> 912.00 is a pain in the butt
[10:21] <+Reno> Covered all NQ Short @ 1473.75 --> - 7 «« paper »»
[10:21] <+wangsta> stopped
[10:22] <@NihabaAshi> Exited 2/3 ES Long @ 912.75 --> + 1
[10:22] <+Reno> Long NQ @ 1475 «« paper »»
[10:23] <@NihabaAshi> Exited Remainder ES Long @ 914.25 --> + 2.5
[10:23] <+jigglyhippo> nice trade
[10:24] <@NihabaAshi> that prior accidental short position ruin the ren-entry in the Long because I was eyeballing a Long re-entry around 910.75 or 911.00
[10:27] <+jigglyhippo> did you have a short order in at that price for a while?
[10:28] <+rickf> ack missed a 914 short entry
[10:30] <@NihabaAshi> jig...just for a few minutes.
[10:30] <+jigglyhippo> but it hit that price and filled your order?
[10:30] <@NihabaAshi> yep
[10:30] <+jigglyhippo> ahh
[10:30] <@NihabaAshi> I was going to cancel it but the spike down was too fast...it filled me.
[10:31] <@NihabaAshi> I get a few trades like that per month...
[10:31] <@NihabaAshi> Don't want the order...make a decision to cancel it and then a spike comes out of nowhere to fill the order.
[10:31] <@NihabaAshi>
[10:33] <+OICU812> slowing down like yesterday afternoon
[10:33] <+jigglyhippo> yeah, that can turn against you real quick
[10:33] <+jigglyhippo> yup
[10:34] <@NihabaAshi> On the flip side...had price continue going downwards...
[10:34] <@NihabaAshi> I would have said "smart trade"
[10:35] <+jigglyhippo> lol
[10:37] <+OICU812> long 913.00
[10:37] <@NihabaAshi> volatility declining fast...
[10:37] <@NihabaAshi> expecting a price spike here soon
[10:38] <+OICU812> up or down?
[10:38] <@NihabaAshi> don't know that
[10:39] <+jigglyhippo> hopefully up for you oicu
[10:39] <@NihabaAshi> If I did...I'll be hanging out with the rich & famous
[10:39] <+Reno> Exited all NQ Long @ 1472 --> - 3 «« paper »»
[10:39] <@NihabaAshi> What's important is to be prepare to take profits via the spike or tighten your stops prior to the expected spike.
[10:40] <+OICU812> -.75 on that trade
[10:40] <+rickf> back in a bit
[10:40] <@NihabaAshi> Simply, just knowing a spike is coming allows you to be "better prepared to take action"...regardless if it goes in your favor or against you.
[10:42] <+OICU812> you guys think its slow cause of summer? or just slow
[10:43] <silo> we've been going up and down like crazy these few days
[10:43] <+silo> market at a decisive area right now
[10:43] <@NihabaAshi> Lets put it this way...I have several friends that are institutional traders...
[10:44] <@NihabaAshi> Most of them are on vacation right now.
[10:44] <codehead> next week will be slow, short holiday week
[10:44] <@NihabaAshi> I've taken more time off this summer so far in comparison to the same time period last summer.
[10:45] <@NihabaAshi> Plan on taking longer vacations this year too in comparison to prior years
[10:45] <+OICU812> when is summer over for you guys? or when do they get back to work?
[10:46] <@NihabaAshi> If you got kids like me...summer concludes when the kids go back to school
[10:46] <@NihabaAshi> summer starts when school is out
[10:46] <@NihabaAshi>
[10:46] <@NihabaAshi> That's my summer time schedule
[10:46] <+OICU812> im not in the US, so would not know
[10:47] <@NihabaAshi> same in U.S., Canada, France and Korea (places I've lived)
[10:48] <@NihabaAshi> Volatility usually slows down...more range days.
[10:48] <+wangsta> schools back in session late aug sept
[10:48] <+wangsta> college is sept on qtr system or aug for semester system
[10:49] <+wangsta> highschool was like... sept i think...
[10:49] <+wangsta> i'm still new to trading, are parts of summer as slow as dec?
[10:49] <+wangsta> that would suck
[10:50] <+OICU812> Long 910.25
[10:50] <@NihabaAshi> Last December was a little unusual...market was reacting to the U.S. Presidential Elections from November
[10:51] <+OICU812> finally filled first scale 911.25
[10:51] <@NihabaAshi> In fact, the global financial crisis has caused a lot of new things in the market that most traders have never experienced.
[10:51] <@NihabaAshi> Simply, stats went out the door since the elections
[10:52] <+wangsta> ok cool thnx
[10:52] <@NihabaAshi> It's now a "bare knuckle" fight.
[10:54] <+OICU812> BE on the rest
[10:56] <+codehead> short ES 2c 910.25 <paper> 6 tick stop
[10:57] <+OICU812> now it will go
[10:59] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Members use this room to document (trade journal) their trades and thoughts from one trade to the next trade. 2009 chat logs stored @ viewforum.php?f=20 and chat logs prior to 2009 are stored @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/ArchivedPastTrades.htm. Also, do not mimic (shadow) trades of others without their permission.
[11:00] <+OICU812> my bias still is long
[11:00] <+codehead> exit ES short flat <paper>
[11:03] <+codehead> oh well, entry was too low
[11:03] <+OICU812> long 908.75
[11:05] <+wangsta> hey O, why do u have long bias right now?
[11:05] <+OICU812> we had a cycle down, needs a cycle up
[11:06] <+OICU812> think of it as waves up down up down
[11:06] <+OICU812> Scaled here 909.5
[11:06] <+wangsta> ok
[11:07] <+OICU812> Scaled again 909.75
[11:08] <+OICU812> market is so slow i rather take small profits and let the last one run
[11:09] <+wangsta> i had one car there long 909 took only 2 tick profit... didn't get 2nd car filled
[11:11] <+OICU812> all out 910.25
[11:16] <+OICU812> looking for short entry
[11:16] <+OICU812> short 910.75
[11:18] <+wangsta> O if u wanted to enter say 3 cars, do u do it all at the same price or do u put limit entries all like 1 tick apart?
[11:18] <+wangsta> short
[11:18] <+wangsta> 10.75
[11:19] <+wangsta> and 10.5
[11:19] <+OICU812> Scale out 910.25
[11:20] <+OICU812> all out 910.5
[11:20] <+OICU812> hard to trust anything without momo
[11:20] <+wangsta> hmm... looks like i'mma take a full stop...
[11:21] <+OICU812> this is a tough market
[11:21] <+wangsta> closed both for 1 tick loss
[11:22] <+jbuch> yeah if the markets were always like yesterday this game would be a lot easier
[11:23] <+wangsta> yesterday was really trending
[11:23] <+wangsta> now its going down...
[11:23] <+wangsta> dz coming up
[11:23] <+wangsta> do u guys trade lunch time?
[11:23] <+OICU812> i guess i had a nice entry, but taking 10 minutes to move, makes you doubt yourself
[11:24] <+jigglyhippo> yup
[11:28] <+OICU812> Long 910.00
[11:28] <+OICU812> 910.75 scale out
[11:29] <+OICU812> all out 910.25
[11:30] <+OICU812> taking a 5 min breather
[11:30] <+OICU812> brb
[11:30] <+OICU812> <==== needs more patience today
[11:30] <+wangsta> gj man
[11:36] <+OICU812> back
[11:41] <+Nesi> hi all
[11:41] <+Nesi> Shorts ES @ 910.00 -> Add
[11:41] <+Nesi> 2c
[11:42] <+Nesi> 2:00pm Fed Chairman Bernanke Speaks
[11:42] <+OICU812> add Nesi?
[11:42] <+OICU812> wheres your first entry
[11:42] <+Nesi> yes
[11:42] <+Nesi> [08:50] <Nesi> Shorts ES @ 913.00
[11:42] <+Nesi> [08:50] <Nesi> 2
[11:43] <+Nesi> there u go
[11:43] <+OICU812> nice
[11:48] <+wangsta> wow buddha is in this room
[11:51] <+OICU812> lol
[11:51] <+wangsta>
[11:52] <+OICU812> Maybe Mr. Gautama will enlighten us
[11:52] <+wangsta> yea..
[11:52] <+jigglyhippo>
[11:52] <+jigglyhippo> ah missed a long entry
[11:53] <+rickf> back
[11:54] <+rickf> ugh it is humid out
[11:54] <+rickf> opps sorry, wrong window
[11:56] <+OICU812> Short 911.75
[11:57] <+OICU812> tight stop on this one
[11:58] <+jigglyhippo> 12.75?
[11:59] <+OICU812> 12.5
[11:59] <+Nesi> Obama on, fwiw
[12:00] <+OICU812> Scaled 2/3 with .25 profit just to pay for the mistake
[12:00] <+OICU812> cause it aint moving
[12:00] <+Nesi> here is where the most vol is
[12:01] <+Nesi> 911.75
[12:02] <+OICU812> out 912.00 -.25 last 1/3
[12:07] <+OICU812> one more try to the short side, tight stop again. 912.75
[12:07] <+jbuch> had some trouble geeting past that high vol but it should act as support.
[12:07] <+rickf> short es 912.75
[12:09] <+wangsta> s12.5
[12:10] <+OICU812> 912.25 Scale
[12:11] <+wangsta> comeon break vwap
[12:11] <+OICU812> 912.00 Scale
[12:11] <+OICU812> 913.00 stop for now
[12:13] <+jbuch> Long ES @ 912.25
[12:13] <+wangsta> exti +2tick
[12:13] <+OICU812> dont do it to me jbuch
[12:14] <+wangsta> shoulda held...
[12:14] <+jigglyhippo> lol
[12:14] <+jigglyhippo> trying to go long here myself
[12:14] <+OICU812> you too jiggly?
[12:15] <+jigglyhippo> yup
[12:15] <+OICU812> talk about supporting your comrades
[12:15] <+jigglyhippo> just waiting for a fill
[12:15] <+jigglyhippo> =/
[12:15] <+OICU812>
[12:15] <+jigglyhippo> if i get it ill keep a tight stop
[12:15] <+OICU812> 912.25 out
[12:17] <+jbuch> this looks completly worthless tightrning my stop
[12:17] <+jigglyhippo> have mine at 11.50
[12:18] <+jigglyhippo> 911.50
[12:18] <+jigglyhippo> jeez
[12:18] <+jigglyhippo> otu
[12:18] <+jigglyhippo> out
[12:18] <+jbuch> Exited all ES Long @ 911.5 --> - 0.75
[12:19] <+OICU812> hard to hold either longs or shorts with this PA
[12:19] <+jigglyhippo> mkt sucks
[12:19] <+jbuch> u still in that short wang
[12:20] <+jigglyhippo> lol wang
[12:20] <+jigglyhippo> good abbreviation
[12:20] <+jbuch> )
[12:20] <+OICU812> ok, this is getting frustrating . I get them right but dont have the patience
[12:21] <+wangsta> u gotta stay with it i shoulda done the same
[12:21] <+rickf> out 911 +1.75
[12:22] <+jbuch> wang ur out
[12:22] <+OICU812> hard to keep them with this price action. at least for me
[12:22] <+jigglyhippo> nice rick
[12:22] <+rickf> ty
[12:22] <+jigglyhippo> yeah PA makes you want to bail
[12:22] <+OICU812> its so slow that it can jump against you
[12:22] <+OICU812> and it makes me hesitate
[12:23] <+jbuch> ur out wang !
[12:23] <+jigglyhippo> lol
[12:24] <+wangsta> whats up jbuch?
[12:24] <+Nesi> jbuch you trying OEC?
[12:24] <+jbuch> I was wondering if U were out wang
[12:25] <+jbuch> sorry to lazy to type anyones full name
[12:25] <+wangsta> oh yea, i took 2 ticks
[12:25] <+wangsta> shoulda held
[12:25] <+jbuch> nice wang
[12:25] <+jigglyhippo> oh man thats going to be the funniest nick
[12:25] <+wangsta> i'll try to do better next time
[12:26] <+rickf> i dunno 'jigglyhippo' just seems ...... odd
[12:26] <+jigglyhippo> yup odd but not as comic as wang
[12:28] <+jbuch> Nesi I played around with it after hours here and there like it
[12:29] <+jbuch> but I guess that I would have to get ninja or something since I can't get the Tick with them
[12:29] <+wangsta> i'm going to the gym... be back after dz
[12:29] <+OICU812> enjoy wangsta
[12:29] <+jbuch> cya wang
[12:29] * wangsta is now known as wang-gym
[12:29] <+OICU812> jbuch, you playing with $tick?
[12:29] <+jigglyhippo> wang gym lol
[12:30] <+jbuch> ok thats it
[12:30] <+jbuch> yeah I use it for divergances
[12:31] <+jbuch> just noticed wang gym thats hillarious
[12:31] <+OICU812> you using minute charts right?
[12:31] <+jbuch> yeah
[12:32] <+jigglyhippo> might try a long here
[12:32] <+jigglyhippo> scalp
[12:33] <+OICU812> long 911.00
[12:33] <+jbuch> I always have try to have 2 reasons to enter and a tick divergence is usually one of them.
[12:34] <+OICU812> the other?
[12:34] <+OICU812> Scale out 912.00
[12:35] <+OICU812> get on the long jigglyhippo?
[12:36] <+jigglyhippo> yuo 912
[12:36] <+jigglyhippo> yup
[12:36] <+jbuch> dang hit my long order three times no fill
[12:36] <+jigglyhippo> all
[12:36] <+jigglyhippo> wanted to get it at 910.75
[12:37] <+OICU812> thats why i like taking the bid or the ask
[12:38] <+OICU812> All out 911.75
[12:39] <+jbuch> Long ES @ 911.75
[12:39] <+jbuch> damn I think I took yours
[12:39] <+jigglyhippo> i wonder what will happen at this 912 area
[12:39] <+jigglyhippo> hope it goes up for you jb
[12:41] <+jigglyhippo> have a tight stop?
[12:43] <+jbuch> Exited all ES Long @ 912.5 --> + 0.75
[12:44] <+jigglyhippo> if we stay above 910 i think we test yesterdays close/high
[12:44] <+jbuch> think I will go for that bike ride.
[12:44] <+OICU812> nice jb
[12:44] <+jbuch> it's about to pop
[12:45] <+OICU812> man its hard to hold on to anything
[12:45] <+jbuch> unless ur Nesi
[12:46] <+jigglyhippo> lol
[12:47] <+jbuch> man that is more frustrating than being wrong
[12:48] <+OICU812> tell me about it, been happening to me all morning
[12:48] <+OICU812> i was on this one at 911
[12:49] <+jigglyhippo> youre in a 911 long?
[12:49] <+OICU812> was
[12:49] <+jigglyhippo> couldnt hold it
[12:49] <+jigglyhippo> right
[12:49] <+OICU812> lacked patience
[12:49] <+OICU812> lol
[12:49] <+jigglyhippo> damn so frustrating
[12:50] <+OICU812> out of frustration
[12:50] <+jbuch> theres my profit target
[12:50] <+OICU812> good job jb. you saw it correctly just like me
[12:50] <+jigglyhippo> lol
[12:50] <+jigglyhippo> might even take a long here
[12:51] <+jigglyhippo> new highs might be coming soon
[12:51] <+OICU812> im thinking of a short
[12:51] <+jigglyhippo> has to break 914.75s - 915s
[12:51] <+jbuch> hard to get in here
[12:51] <+jigglyhippo> yep just watching for now
[12:52] <+OICU812> 914.25 short
[12:53] <+jigglyhippo> 914 long
[12:53] <+jigglyhippo> =/
[12:53] <+jigglyhippo> i should get out just cause i dont like being on the other side
[12:53] <+OICU812> lol
[12:54] <+jigglyhippo> out stop 913.5
[12:54] <+jbuch> it is funny we could how in synch we are as barometer for the market
[12:55] <+OICU812> what do you mean?
[12:55] <+jbuch> all out of synch choppy
[12:55] <+OICU812> lol yeah
[12:55] <+jbuch> in synch clean market
[12:56] <+jigglyhippo> try one more time
[12:56] <+jigglyhippo> L 914.00
[12:56] <+jigglyhippo> stop 913.25
[12:56] <+OICU812> 14.75 my stop
[12:57] <+OICU812> 913.75 Scale out
[12:57] <+jbuch> I wonder if the wang gym is actually a brothel.
[12:57] <+jigglyhippo> HAHAHA
[12:58] <+OICU812> lol
[12:58] <+jbuch> I can't wait until he gets back so I can say what up wang
[12:59] <@NihabaAshi> a lot of key markets today are range bound
[12:59] <+Nesi> feels like spike down coming..IMHO
[12:59] <+OICU812> lol jbuch
[12:59] <+OICU812> hope your right Nesi
[13:00] <+Nesi> remember u guys should fade my trades...
[13:00] <+jigglyhippo> damn out
[13:00] <+OICU812> im always fading the market
[13:00] <+Nesi> bit of mojo now
[13:00] <+OICU812> 13.5 scale out again
[13:00] <+OICU812> will hold the last part
[13:01] <+OICU812> to BE
[13:01] <+Nesi> or not to be
[13:01] <+Nesi>
[13:01] <@NihabaAshi> News - Bonds Beat Loans for Banks Driving Down Yields @ http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid= ... c8AKLIR4SY
[13:01] <+OICU812> to be honest, i havent had such a hard time trading in a while
[13:02] <+rickf> sheesh guess michale jackson is disrupting video all over today -- not had this much problem streaming bloomberg, ever
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[13:03] <+Nesi> i would like to see it take 910
[13:04] <+OICU812> im short so i second that motion Nesi
[13:04] <+Nesi> hehe
[13:06] <+Nesi> anyone here uses the agent to hear what is said here?
[13:07] <+OICU812> did not know it was possible
[13:07] <+Nesi> very easy.. i used it for 10 years
[13:07] <+Nesi> its easier then read it
[13:08] <+OICU812> 912.5 all out
[13:08] <+Nesi> nice
[13:08] <+OICU812> and that was the BIG trade
[13:09] <+Nesi> well..you take what u can
[13:09] <+OICU812> yeah
[13:09] <+Nesi> coin here and there and u fill the bucket
[13:09] <+OICU812> i should be a up a couple of points by now
[13:09] <+OICU812> i hope
[13:11] <+jigglyhippo> coin here and there just make sure the commissions dont get you
[13:12] <+OICU812> thats why i scale out
[13:12] <+OICU812> to cover them
[13:12] <+OICU812> and small stops
[13:14] <+jbuch> geez whats going on sidartha you have been in and out of here 20 times
[13:14] <+jigglyhippo> buddha is meditating
[13:14] <+jbuch> ther he goes again
[13:14] <+jigglyhippo> gautama hasnt said anything in awhile
[13:14] <+OICU812> he an active trader?
[13:14] <+jigglyhippo> no idea
[13:15] <+jbuch> deep in contemplation
[13:16] <+OICU812> trying a long here 912.00
[13:16] <+OICU812> 912.5 Scale out
[13:16] <+OICU812> +.5
[13:18] <+OICU812> 912.75 another scale
[13:18] <+OICU812> +
[13:19] <+OICU812> +.75
[13:19] <+OICU812> 911.75 my stop for now
[13:20] <+OICU812> today has been a scalp day
[13:22] <+jbuch> what messes with your mind is looking at yesterdays moves and thinking what if I had just moved my stop up
[13:22] <+jigglyhippo> for sure
[13:23] <+jigglyhippo> big 'what if' day
[13:23] <+OICU812> focus on today guys
[13:23] <+jbuch> Long ES @ 912.5
[13:26] <+jigglyhippo> 912 acting as a support now?
[13:27] <+OICU812> i guess
[13:27] <+OICU812> im still long
[13:27] <+OICU812> but wont go beyond 913 either
[13:27] <+jigglyhippo> in anything/
[13:27] <+jbuch> couldn't get all the way down to 912 that time
[13:28] <+jbuch> tick breaking up
[13:28] <+jbuch> come on break 913
[13:28] <+jigglyhippo> there you go jb
[13:28] <+jbuch> and explode por favor
[13:28] <+jigglyhippo> lol
[13:29] <+OICU812> lol If you say it in spanish it listens
[13:29] <+jbuch> everyhthing is just so slow and hesitent
[13:29] <+jigglyhippo> whats your profit tgt 914?
[13:30] <+jbuch> out
[13:30] <+jigglyhippo> ahh
[13:30] <+jbuch> Exited all ES Long @ 912.75 --> + 0.25
[13:30] <+jbuch> but yes 914 was my target
[13:30] <+OICU812> 912.75 all out
[13:31] <+OICU812> scalper day
[13:32] <+jigglyhippo> this freaking sucks
[13:32] <+jbuch> there have been good moves that last long that we were in was nice we were just impatient
[13:32] <+OICU812> whoa glad i was out
[13:32] <+jigglyhippo> but its been taking so long to unfold
[13:32] <+OICU812> in my case it takes so long it makes me hesitate
[13:34] <+jbuch> yeah maybe it will pick up at the end of the day
[13:34] <+jbuch> but like wrbtrader said lotta vacationers
[13:35] <+jbuch> need to stop reading bloomberg it is making me depressed )
[13:36] <+OICU812> what are you reading?
[13:37] <+jbuch> that article that wrbtrader just posted
[13:38] <+OICU812> i dont read or watch any news easier on you
[13:40] * wang-gym is now known as wangsta
[13:40] <+wangsta> back guys
[13:40] <@NihabaAshi> I'm expecting a volatility spike here soon.
[13:41] <@NihabaAshi> Gold and Oil currently not looking so hot
[13:41] <+OICU812> 911.5 long
[13:41] <@NihabaAshi> If they try to find some support...Eminis should spike northwards
[13:42] <+jigglyhippo> tight stop?
[13:43] <+OICU812> 911.75 all out does not look so good
[13:44] <+OICU812> ahhhhh CRAP
[13:44] <+wangsta> lol
[13:44] <+jigglyhippo> talk about this happening allll day
[13:44] * +OICU812 kicks the table
[13:44] <+wangsta> sorry O, sure u'll kick ass
[13:47] <+rickf> JB - financial news makes me depressed these days
[13:47] <@NihabaAshi> filled
[13:47] <+jigglyhippo> gap filled?
[13:47] <@NihabaAshi> Long ES @ 912.50 -> small size
[13:47] <@NihabaAshi> 2 only
[13:48] <+jigglyhippo> you have a tight stop wrbtrader?
[13:49] <@NihabaAshi> not yet
[13:49] <@NihabaAshi> will adjust stop soon
[13:49] <+jigglyhippo> interesting
[13:51] <@NihabaAshi> volatility declining fast...I'm expecting a volatility spike here soon.
[13:51] <@NihabaAshi> tighting trailing stop
[13:51] <+jigglyhippo> 911.5?
[13:52] <@NihabaAshi> now 911.75
[13:53] <@NihabaAshi> doesn't mean I'll sit on my butt and watch it get hit
[13:53] <@NihabaAshi> could just jump it at 912.00
[13:53] <+jbuch> hey rick sorry took a break
[13:53] <+jigglyhippo> i should adjust my stops better while in trades
[13:53] <+rickf> no problem
[13:53] <@NihabaAshi> jump = dump via market order
[13:53] <+jigglyhippo> like youre mentioning
[13:53] <+rickf> we're all allowed one
[13:53] <+jbuch> yeah the news is depressing
[13:54] <+jbuch> has been for a long time
[13:54] <@NihabaAshi> volatility still declining
[13:54] <+wangsta> wrbtrader, do u mean jump to the upside = shorts exiting panic at market?
[13:54] <@NihabaAshi> Price is going to pop and hopefully up and not down
[13:55] <+wangsta> and vice versa for downside spike?
[13:56] <Nesi> bernie will speak at 2 pm
[13:56] <+Nesi> just in case
[13:56] <+jigglyhippo> damn you bernie
[13:56] <+rickf> climate change bill being voted on this pm as well
[13:56] <+silo> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIq2UWCTCBM
[13:56] <+silo> sick mj performance
[13:56] <+jigglyhippo> ive seen that before
[13:57] <+jigglyhippo> nasty
[13:57] <+silo> yeah man
[13:57] <+jigglyhippo> i think he'll make more money than elvis
[13:57] <@NihabaAshi> Exited all ES Long @ 912.75 --> + 0.25
[13:57] <+jigglyhippo> after passing
[13:58] <@NihabaAshi> it was a good try but that "small spike" fizzle fast before it could develop into something bigger
[13:58] <+jigglyhippo> at least you made out with a +
[13:58] <@NihabaAshi> wangsta...whenever I talk about volatility spikes I don't predice a direction.
[13:59] <@NihabaAshi> Instead, I use it to tell me to get off my butt and be prepare to trade (entering, exiting, profit taking or position reversal)
[14:00] <+silo> lol i thought yo uwere really calling someone wangsta lol
[14:00] <+jigglyhippo> hahahaha
[14:00] <+silo> didn't notice someone was using that name lol
[14:00] <+wangsta> thnx wrbtrader
[14:00] <+jigglyhippo> see most comic nick
[14:00] <+Nesi> come on, take 910.50 por favor
[14:01] <+jigglyhippo> a bit late
[14:01] <+jigglyhippo> Short ES @ 912.5
[14:01] <+Nesi> now i need pressure
[14:01] <+jigglyhippo> Covered 1/2 ES @ 911.5 --> + 1
[14:01] <+jbuch> thanks silo that was awesome whata shame
[14:01] <+Nesi> vn jigg
[14:02] <+jigglyhippo> Covered all ES Short @ 911 --> + 1.5
[14:02] <+jigglyhippo> thanks
[14:02] <+jigglyhippo> not comfy with holding too long
[14:03] <+rickf> vn
[14:06] <@NihabaAshi> sneaky price action
[14:07] <@NihabaAshi> Long ES @ 911.75 -> small size
[14:07] <@NihabaAshi> 1 only
[14:07] <+jbuch> thats for sure
[14:07] <@NihabaAshi> intuition in reaction to prior trade
[14:10] <+jbuch> Shorts ES @ 911.75
[14:13] <@NihabaAshi> losing my patience on this Long because it has support from other key markets but not taking advantage of such
[14:13] <+wangsta> this looks real good deal ... http://microcenter.com/storefronts/micr ... order.html
[14:13] <+wangsta> i don't work for ms...
[14:14] <+rickf> but it's windows
[14:15] <+wangsta> lol u trade on mac?
[14:15] <+rickf> yup
[14:15] <+rickf> tho i use xp now and then
[14:15] <+jbuch> Covered all ES Short @ 912.25 --> - 0.5
[14:16] <+wangsta> what platform are u running on mac?
[14:16] <+wangsta> to trade
[14:16] <+rickf> thinkorswim for the moment - love their platform
[14:16] <@NihabaAshi> Exited ES Long @ 911.75 --> 0
[14:16] <@NihabaAshi>
[14:16] <+wangsta> ok
[14:16] <+rickf> use OEC trader in XP via VMWare too
[14:16] <+wangsta> ic
[14:17] <@NihabaAshi> got pick pocketed
[14:18] <+wangsta> lol
[14:18] <+wangsta> i used windows7 beta and it's way better than vista... vista sucks soo much
[14:18] <+jbuch> what a mess
[14:18] <+jigglyhippo> Long ES @ 911.75
[14:18] <@NihabaAshi> still stuck in the upper part of yesterday's trend day
[14:18] <+jigglyhippo> stop 910.25
[14:19] <@NihabaAshi> Starting to look like the big boys are just going to sit on this today while us retail folks play tag
[14:20] <@NihabaAshi>
[14:21] <+jigglyhippo> brokers are loving today
[14:24] <+jbuch> Long ES @ 912.25
[14:24] <+jigglyhippo> lets go jb
[14:25] <+wangsta> this sucks balls...
[14:25] <+jigglyhippo> tight stop jb?
[14:27] <+jbuch> right below
[14:27] <+jbuch> 911.75
[14:27] <+jigglyhippo> ahh
[14:27] <+jbuch> almost bailed at breakeven
[14:27] <+jigglyhippo> i hope it doesnt touch
[14:27] <+jigglyhippo> cause if so itll sell in a heartbeat
[14:27] <+jbuch> might have been a good choice
[14:29] <+jbuch> I will be stunned if this doesn't take me out
[14:30] <+jigglyhippo> Exited ES Long @ 911.75 --> 0
[14:30] <+jigglyhippo> UGH!
[14:31] <+jbuch> Exited all ES Long @ 911.75 --> - 0.5
[14:33] <+jbuch> Long ES @ 912
[14:33] <+jbuch> one more try
[14:33] <+jigglyhippo> OoOo
[14:34] <+jigglyhippo> 911.5 stop?
[14:34] <+jigglyhippo> ill try too
[14:34] <+jigglyhippo> Long ES @ 912
[14:35] <+jbuch> 911.25 stop here
[14:35] <+jigglyhippo> yup same
[14:36] <+jigglyhippo> i cant get out 1/2 at 913
[14:37] <+jigglyhippo> just sitting there
[14:37] <+jigglyhippo>
[14:37] <+jbuch> moved my stop up 911.75
[14:37] <@NihabaAshi> nice entries around 912 you guys got
[14:38] <+jigglyhippo> thanks
[14:38] <+jigglyhippo> Exited 1/2 ES Long @ 913 --> + 1
[14:38] <@NihabaAshi> hopefully other key markets start moving out of their tight range to give them a boost
[14:38] <+jbuch> Exited all ES Long @ 912.5 --> + 0.5
[14:39] <+jbuch> thanks wrbtrader
[14:39] <+jbuch> thought it was gonna break on that 1
[14:39] <+jigglyhippo> Exited all ES Long @ 912.50 --> + 0.5
[14:44] <@NihabaAshi> I'm being very careful about overtrading today because this is the type of range that's very seductive on beer night and then you wake up scared after seeing what's in bed with you the next morning.
[14:44] <+wangsta> lol
[14:44] <+jbuch> lol
[14:44] <TraderG> ES had no one day range of less than 11 points in the past year. so far we r @ less than 8 ....
[14:45] <@NihabaAshi> wow.
[14:46] <+jbuch> tried to reenter that long 3 times no fills
[14:47] <ItalianSharp> [14:44:43] <TraderG> ES had no one day range of less than 11 points in the past year. so far we r @ less than 8 ....
[14:47] <+ItalianSharp> you 100% sure about that?
[14:47] <+TraderG> except 4 dec 24
[14:48] <+jbuch> it was about a month ago right
[14:48] <+TraderG> if i am wrong i don't mind being corrected
[14:48] <+wangsta> short
[14:49] <+wangsta> 913.25
[14:49] <+wangsta> 913
[14:49] <+jbuch> Shorts ES @ 913.25
[14:50] <+ItalianSharp> well, that number is pretty amazing...it'd mean today is the smallest range day of the year if we dont break out of it
[14:51] <+jbuch> Covered all ES Short @ 913 --> + 0.25
[14:51] <+jbuch> lol
[14:51] <+wangsta> exit
[14:51] <+wangsta> be+1
[14:51] <+OICU812> big thunderstorm here guys
[14:51] <+OICU812> be back if i can
[14:51] <+wangsta> take care o
[14:52] <+jbuch> well keep the market right here for ya
[14:56] <+TraderG> usually the day after a narrow range day (max 2 days later) is a trend day
[14:56] <+jbuch> there is my profit target on the 20 long that I took in that range
[14:59] <+jigglyhippo> will anything happen in this last hour?
[14:59] <+wangsta> short
[14:59] <+wangsta> looks bad...
[14:59] <+wangsta> stopped
[15:01] <+jigglyhippo> should have kept my 911.75 long with a 910.25 stop
[15:01] <+jigglyhippo> bailed at 911
[15:01] <+jigglyhippo> sorry 911.75
[15:01] <+jigglyhippo> wouldve paid off
[15:03] <+codehead> tick fade bot logged a trade:
[15:03] <+codehead> short ES 915.50 <paper>
[15:03] <+codehead> target 913.50, stop 918.50
[15:03] <+wangsta> short
[15:03] <+wangsta> last try
[15:04] <+codehead> possible to run to 923, but doubting it
[15:04] <tribe> russell rebalance
[15:04] <+codehead> 918.50 is .500 retracement, got close yesterday
[15:05] <+tribe> tf lead dog
[15:05] <+codehead> oh yeah
[15:05] <+tribe> careful
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[15:07] <+jbuch> I t was the point of control for the month as well
[15:10] <+jbuch> 916 is that high vol area from yesterday's close
[15:10] <@NihabaAshi> lets see if this thing can make some noise and get above the 916.25 price area
[15:15] <+jbuch> Long ES @ 914.75
[15:15] <+wangsta> couldnt take it no more... exited be+1
[15:16] <+jigglyhippo> hope it works jb
[15:16] <+jigglyhippo> tight stop again?
[15:17] <+wangsta> omg
[15:17] <+wangsta> now it tanks...
[15:17] <+jbuch> Exited all ES Long @ 914 --> - 0.75
[15:18] <+jbuch> oops thats not right
[15:19] <+jbuch> was in at 914.5 and out at 914.25
[15:22] <+codehead> exit half ES +1.50 <paper>
[15:22] <+codehead> lower stop b/e remainder <paper>
[15:26] <OICU812> back guys
[15:26] <+codehead> lower stop to 914.50 <paper>
[15:26] <+OICU812> im afraid of thunderstorms, they burned 3 of my computers arledy
[15:26] <+codehead> exit remainder +1.00 <paper>
[15:28] <+OICU812> hows it going?
[15:31] <+wangsta> jesus O, thuderstorms can hit ur pc?
[15:35] <+OICU812> they hit the power lines so theres power spikes and those do.
[15:35] <+wangsta> would apc help?
[15:35] <+wangsta> they suppose to protect against surges
[15:36] <+wangsta> mine saved my ass from a blackout earlier this week
[15:36] <+OICU812> yeah, but they delay a few milliseconds if the spike is too big it goes thru
[15:36] <+wangsta> ic
[15:36] <+OICU812> anyway, i rather turn it off
[15:36] <+wangsta> ic
[15:36] <@NihabaAshi> Yeah...
[15:36] <+wangsta> its time to move to cali
[15:37] <+OICU812> better safe than sorry cause i would hate to buy this computer again.
[15:37] <+wangsta> yea
[15:38] <@NihabaAshi> We had a lightning storm once and I remember having left my main desktop on.
[15:38] <@NihabaAshi> I rushed home and saw a lighting strike hit the power line about a block away from my home.
[15:39] <@NihabaAshi> It traveled along the power line into the first house...
[15:39] <@NihabaAshi> My house
[15:39] <+codehead> yikes
[15:39] <@NihabaAshi> went inside and the computer was dead
[15:40] <+rickf> use apc surge strips on top of battery backups? saved me a few times
[15:40] <@NihabaAshi> Yeah...after that I use apc surge strips and outlet protectors.
[15:41] <@NihabaAshi> Luckily I had a backup computer and didn't miss any trading the next day.
[15:42] <@NihabaAshi> Lightning strikes can also travel along "telephone lines" outside then directly into a house.
[15:42] <@NihabaAshi> It's rare but has happen
[15:42] <@NihabaAshi> not to me
[15:42] <+OICU812> that happens often wrbtrader
[15:42] <+TraderG> i made a complete backup hard drive of 2 computers so worst case I just pop on the new drive and replace the power supply which is the part that would go first if the UPS fails
[15:42] <+OICU812> the easiest to burn up are modems and cordless phones that way
[15:43] <+OICU812> TraderG, sometimes it blows up motherboard or some other part
[15:43] <@NihabaAshi> Yeah...moral of the story...if it's lightning outside...time to stop trading and shut everything down
[15:43] <+OICU812> Anyway, if the lightning gets bad i rather turn it off.
[15:43] <+TraderG> true. that is why i have 2 almost identical computers
[15:44] <+codehead> how do you tell them apart?
[15:44] <+TraderG> connected 2 different outlets
[15:44] <+OICU812> plus, if you guys are like me, your computer is worth quite a bit
[15:44] <+wangsta> do u guys all live in the tropics?
[15:44] <+codehead> j/k
[15:44] <+TraderG> different cases
[15:45] <+TraderG> but a hard drive failure or a severe bug is more common than an electical problem so a backup hard drive is a good idea
[15:45] <+OICU812> agreed
[15:46] <+TraderG> it is also the fastest and cheapest solution
[15:46] <+wangsta> u guys using raid1?
[15:46] <+TraderG> just clone your main drive and put the cloned drive in your drawer
[15:46] <+TraderG> 01 and 1
[15:48] <+OICU812> Short 917.5
[15:49] <+OICU812> 916.5 first scale
[15:49] <+TraderG> 01 is x2 the speed in both read and write compared 2 a single driveand twice as safe but you sacrifice 50% of your drive space
[15:50] <+OICU812> 917.25 all out
[15:51] <+OICU812> if it does not break 18.5 might make a good longer term short
[15:52] <+OICU812> 917.25 short again
[15:52] <+OICU812> 916.25 first scale
[15:52] <+jigglyhippo> niec
[15:52] <+jigglyhippo> niec
[15:53] <+jigglyhippo> damn
[15:53] <+jigglyhippo> nice
[15:53] <@NihabaAshi> weak support area
[15:53] <+OICU812> lets see if it takes it this time
[15:53] <+wangsta> nice short
[15:53] <@NihabaAshi> agree and it has support of Oil and Gold
[15:54] <+wangsta> oh shit its tanking...
[15:54] <@NihabaAshi> a short worth getting greedy on because of that support
[15:54] <+wangsta> globex hi held the line
[15:54] <+OICU812> 914.5 second scale
[15:54] <+wangsta> u got 5 mins til close
[15:54] <+OICU812> 20 mins
[15:55] <@NihabaAshi>
[15:55] <@NihabaAshi> at another weak support area for ES
[15:56] <+OICU812> need one more push down
[15:56] <@NihabaAshi> Long ES @ 915.50 -> small size
[15:56] <@NihabaAshi> 2 only
[15:57] <@NihabaAshi> Exited all ES Long @ 915.00 --> - 0.5
[15:57] <+OICU812> here comes the next push down
[15:58] <+OICU812> need to break 914
[15:58] <@NihabaAshi> it has a good chance
[15:58] <+OICU812> 13.5 support holding too
[15:58] <@NihabaAshi> Shorts ES @ 914.00 -> small size
[15:58] <@NihabaAshi> 2 only
[15:58] <@NihabaAshi> intuition
[15:59] <@NihabaAshi> support broke
[15:59] <+OICU812> still need the 13.5 wrbtrader
[15:59] <+silo> some stocks are dropping hard now
[15:59] <+silo> SY
[15:59] <+silo> it's insane
[15:59] <+silo> very weird
[16:00] <+OICU812> ok, last push
[16:00] <@NihabaAshi> It's a shame the market waited towards the end of the trading day to show some good volatilty
[16:00] <+jbuch> ding ding
[16:01] <+OICU812> ok all out 914.00
[16:01] <+TraderG> less than 10 point range 2day. I think it is a new record
[16:01] <+jbuch> yeah so burnt out by then that I didn't want to trade anymore
[16:01] <+jbuch> good way to end it oic
[16:01] <+OICU812> today has been one of the most annoying days ive traded in a while. Hated to see the trades i was in RUN just after i got out
[16:01] <+OICU812> thanks jb
[16:02] <+jbuch> same here got a wicked headache
[16:02] <@NihabaAshi> Covered all ES Short @ 913.75 --> + 0.25
[16:02] <+jigglyhippo> tradings been tough
[16:03] <+OICU812> strange days indeed
[16:03] <+jbuch> beauty yesterday
[16:03] <+OICU812> although last couple of years we had summer rallies that were a lot of fun
[16:03] <+TraderG> i'll bet Monday will be a great day. If I am wrong i am paying 4 lunch
[16:03] <+jbuch> I would love to see some consistancy come into the market
[16:04] <+OICU812> I am commited to do the best with whatever i get
[16:04] <+jbuch> perfect I know just the spot
[16:04] <+OICU812> today it was scalping, so i scalped
[16:04] <+TraderG> jb there is 1 condition though
[16:04] <@NihabaAshi> Even with the volatility surge towards the end of the day...
[16:04] <+TraderG> lunch is in Toronto
[16:05] <+jbuch> today I scalped on the runners and got +.25 on the fakeouts
[16:05] <@NihabaAshi> We still stayed within the upper part of yesterday's trend day
[16:05] <+jbuch> Oh i WAS THINKING ALBUQUERQUE
[16:05] <+jbuch> YEAH LOOKS GOOD ON THE DAILY
[16:05] <+jbuch> oops
[16:06] <@NihabaAshi> It was a controlled trading day for me...stayed away from a lot of junk I saw.
[16:07] <@NihabaAshi> Take care all and have a safe/good weekend
[16:07] <+OICU812> you too wrbtrader
[16:07] <+OICU812> enjoy guys
[16:07] <+Nesi> will keep my short 911.50
[16:07] * NihabaAshi is now known as NihabaAshi_away
[16:07] <+OICU812> and good job today, we did what we could
[16:07] <+rickf> cya
[16:07] <+Nesi> have a great weekend all
[16:08] <+wangsta> peace
[16:08] <+jigglyhippo> later
[16:08] <+jbuch> have a good weekend everyone
[16:08] <+jigglyhippo> see you guys monday
[16:08] <+jbuch> cya wang )
[16:08] <+jigglyhippo> lol
[16:08] <+jigglyhippo> i was waiting for that
[16:09] * wangsta is now known as wang-afk
[16:14] <+rickf> see you guys next week --- have a good w/e everyone
[16:15] <+OICU812> safe weekend everyone
[16:15] <+jbuch> cya
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