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 Post subject: May 21st Thursday 2009
 Post Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 3:19 pm 
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Session Start: Thu May 21 09:19:34 2009
Session Ident: #futurestrades
[09:19] * Now talking in #futurestrades
[09:19] <@X> [NihabaAshi] Announcement: The new trade posting script v3.7 (replaces v3.6) is posted at your forum in the "Announcements" thread.
[09:19] <TraderG> can any 1 recommend a brand of laptop that is VERY reliable.
[09:20] <rickf> macbook pro
[09:21] <pat255> gm all ..officw all this week ...:9
[09:25] <ItalianSharp> gm all
[09:25] <+rickf> hey Is
[09:29] <drt> gm
[09:30] <@NihabaAshi> Long ES @ 889.50 -> small size
[09:30] <@NihabaAshi> 3 only
[09:32] <@NihabaAshi> Exited all ES Long @ 889.00 --> - 0.5
[09:34] <@NihabaAshi> Shorts ES @ 888.00 -> small size
[09:34] <@NihabaAshi> Covered all ES Short @ 888.75 --> - 0.75
[09:38] <+rickf> jeez
[09:38] <+rickf> 2 short entries missed by 1 tick both times
[09:38] <@NihabaAshi> volatility dried up fast...unusually fast.
[09:38] <@NihabaAshi> I started dropping the first minute after the openining bell.
[09:38] <@NihabaAshi> Haven't seen that in a long while.
[09:39] <+rickf> short es 889.50
[09:39] <@NihabaAshi> Long ES @ 889.50 -> small size
[09:39] <@NihabaAshi> 3 only
[09:40] * codehead_afk is now known as codehead
[09:43] <@NihabaAshi> Exited all ES Long @ 891.00 --> + 1.5
[09:43] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Archived trade posting chat logs have a new location. They are now stored @ viewforum.php?f=20
[09:43] <pdays> Long TF @ 482.6
[09:44] <+pdays> Exited all TF Long @ 483.6 --> + 1
[09:44] <+ItalianSharp> eminis trying hard to build a base here
[09:45] <@NihabaAshi> weak resistance area
[09:50] <@NihabaAshi> ES crawling higher inch by inch
[09:50] <+rickf> short es 892.50 (add)
[09:50] <+rickf> running 2
[09:50] <@NihabaAshi> fighting hard to get above the resistance area
[09:51] <@NihabaAshi> It's now above it
[09:51] <@NihabaAshi> Long ES @ 893.00 -> small size
[09:51] <@NihabaAshi> 3 only
[09:52] <@NihabaAshi> intuition
[09:52] <@NihabaAshi> News pending...around the corner
[09:54] <@NihabaAshi> tighten stop loss
[09:54] <@NihabaAshi> Exited all ES Long @ 891.75 --> - 1.25
[09:56] <+rickf> exit es 891 b/e
[09:56] <+rickf> dag
[09:56] * +rickf serves me right for using a faster chart :(
[10:00] <OICU812> Good Morning
[10:01] <@NihabaAshi> Long ES @ 890.00 -> small size
[10:01] <@NihabaAshi> 3 only
[10:01] <@NihabaAshi> trailing stop @ profit
[10:02] <@NihabaAshi> Exited all ES Long @ 891.00 --> + 1
[10:02] <+rickf> fiures :(
[10:02] <+ItalianSharp> 10am news causing some chop on nasty volatility
[10:02] * +rickf figures
[10:02] <@NihabaAshi> Yeah...it's ugly :(
[10:02] <+rickf> early entry caused me to make early exit, but was right anyway
[10:03] <@NihabaAshi> Long ES @ 890.00 -> small size
[10:03] <+ItalianSharp> we are about to decide whether to plunge further or take a shot at filling the gap
[10:03] <@NihabaAshi> 3 only
[10:03] <+rickf> if the gap isn't filled today i'll add another SDS unit to my long portfolio @ the close
[10:04] <@NihabaAshi> Exited all ES Long @ 889.25 --> - 0.75
[10:04] <+rickf> stockwise i trade into the direction of the gap on the second day if the gap remains
[10:05] <@NihabaAshi> Long ES @ 890.00 -> small size
[10:05] <@NihabaAshi> 3 only
[10:06] <@NihabaAshi> I won't hesitate this time if it gets back above 892.00
[10:07] <+rickf> short es 892.25
[10:07] <@NihabaAshi> Exited all ES Long @ 892.00 --> + 2
[10:08] <+rickf> out 891 +1.25
[10:08] <+pat255> vn guys
[10:08] <+rickf> thx pat
[10:09] <+rickf> tight range now it seems
[10:09] <@NihabaAshi> a lot of work for me to only be up +3 points :(
[10:09] <+rickf> meaning smaller targets for me
[10:09] <+rickf> wrbtrader - yeah no kidding :(
[10:09] <+rickf> and it's only 1010AM
[10:09] <+rickf> morings are supposed to be the easier session to trade lol
[10:10] <@NihabaAshi> sidelined...just want to watch the price action because the chop has gotten more cloudy.
[10:11] <+rickf> same here
[10:11] <+pat255> L 891
[10:13] <+pat255> out -1
[10:16] <jbuch> Shorts SPY @ 89.49
[10:17] <+OICU812> i see a lot of chop too, but i am short
[10:17] <+OICU812> i think it has potential to break LOD
[10:18] <+codehead> long 1c ES 888.00 <paper> stop 886.75
[10:18] <+jbuch> Covered all SPY Short @ 89.29 --> + 0.2
[10:19] <+OICU812> still holding, might take it on the next swing
[10:19] <+jbuch> ya I shoulda kept 1/2
[10:20] <+jbuch> so choppy though I didn't trust it
[10:20] <+OICU812> no harm in pocketing some $$$
[10:20] <+jbuch> yup
[10:20] <+codehead> stop 886.50
[10:20] <+jbuch> need some coffee any ways be back
[10:21] <+rickf> safe-and-green v. angry-and-red
[10:21] <+rickf> gimme the former any day ;)
[10:21] <+codehead> exit ES 1c -.25 <paper>
[10:22] <+OICU812> im going to try to hold it a bit longer lets see if the retrace inspires an add up to the short side
[10:24] <+OICU812> 866.5 exit
[10:46] <+jbuch> Shorts SPY @ 89.2
[10:50] <+rickf> back later - gym time
[10:52] <+jbuch> Covered all SPY Short @ 89..02 --> + 89.2 - 89..02
[10:57] <+codehead> nearing a gap fill on ES
[11:01] <+codehead> needs 1 more tick
[11:02] <jigglyhippo> no trades for me today, bad internet connection
[11:03] <+codehead> gap filled
[11:09] <+jbuch> uyg is still above its opening range
[11:11] <+jbuch> Long SPY @ 88.78
[11:14] <+jbuch> Exited all SPY Long @ 88.9 --> + 0.12
[11:25] <+jbuch> Shorts SPY @ 88.98
[11:28] <silo> anyone good at making scans for tradestation?
[11:32] <+jbuch> Covered all SPY Short @ 88.97 --> + 0.01
[11:38] <+jbuch> silo is ur TS date freezing up
[11:39] <+silo> date?
[11:40] <+silo> my ts keeps getting disconnected
[11:40] <+silo> with its data server
[11:40] <+jbuch> same here
[11:40] <+jbuch> gonna reboot
[11:49] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Archived trade posting chat logs have a new location. They are now stored @ viewforum.php?f=20
[11:52] <+ItalianSharp> my TS is working fine
[11:52] <+ItalianSharp> weird
[11:55] <+rickf> back
[11:55] <+rickf> short es 888
[11:59] <+silo> financials goign up
[12:01] <jbuch> yup just broke above the hod
[12:02] <+jbuch> great divergant signals with uyg the last few days
[12:14] <+rickf> out 887.75 +.25
[12:17] <@NihabaAshi> Long ES @ 887.50 -> small size
[12:17] <@NihabaAshi> 2 only
[12:18] <@NihabaAshi> looks like my 2 contracts is causing a lot of volatility right now :)
[12:18] <Nesi> you moving the marketssss :)
[12:19] <@NihabaAshi> Exited all ES Long @ 887.00 --> - 0.5
[12:21] <+jigglyhippo> lol
[12:22] * +rickf figures
[12:22] <+rickf> another early entry and early exit
[12:22] <+rickf> focussssss
[12:25] <@NihabaAshi> Long ES @ 887.00 -> small size
[12:25] <@NihabaAshi> 3 only
[12:26] <@NihabaAshi> tough trade in low declining volatility
[12:27] <+rickf> 886 long looks tempting
[12:27] <+rickf> but not a planned trade, so standing aside
[12:28] <+jbuch> rick was the 888 a planned trade ?
[12:28] <+rickf> yeah
[12:30] <@NihabaAshi> Exited all ES Long @ 886.25 --> - 0.75
[12:32] <@NihabaAshi> Long ES @ 887.00 -> small size
[12:32] <@NihabaAshi> 2 only
[12:32] * code is now known as codehead
[12:37] <@NihabaAshi> Exited all ES Long @ 888.00 --> + 1
[13:20] <+rickf> long es 885.25
[13:21] <+jbuch> Shorts SPY @ 89.04
[13:22] <tomosyn57> Shorts SSO @ 24.38
[13:24] <+jbuch> exit stop set SPY @ 89.01
[13:28] <+jbuch> moving the stop down
[13:28] <+jbuch> 88.91
[13:29] <+jbuch> Covered all SPY Short @ 88.81 --> + 0.23
[13:35] <+jbuch> the absolute best kinda trade no heat and it hits ur profit target and reverses
[13:36] <+tomosyn57> exit stop set SSO @ 24.36
[13:38] <+tomosyn57> exit stop lowered SSO @ 24.34
[13:40] <+tomosyn57> exit stop lowered SSO @ 24.32
[13:40] <+tomosyn57> Trailing Stop Hit SSO @ 24.32 --> + 0.06
[13:46] <+jbuch> nice tomo
[13:47] <+tomosyn57> thx, thought it might go down to test the low of day, but didn't get out soon enough
[13:47] <@NihabaAshi> Long ES @ 885.50 -> small size
[13:47] <@NihabaAshi> 1 only
[13:47] <+rickf> exit es 885.50 +.25
[13:48] <+tomosyn57> giant volume on that hammer around 1340 when it hit the low of day
[13:49] <+jbuch> ya got regected prettty hard kicking myself for not taking a long
[13:50] <+jbuch> regected +rejected lol
[13:52] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Archived trade posting chat logs have a new location. They are now stored @ viewforum.php?f=20
[13:54] <@NihabaAshi> Exited ES Long @ 884.00 --> - 1.5
[13:57] <+rickf> ugly day imho
[13:57] <+rickf> too much work for too few points
[13:57] <+rickf> either that or i am off my game
[14:00] <+TraderG> great day if u follow the rules.
[14:01] <+TraderG> did not in the morning and paid 4 it
[14:01] <+TraderG> but now I am back in the saddle
[14:04] <+jbuch> Shorts SPY @ 89
[14:04] <@NihabaAshi> Shorts ES @ 883.75 -> small size
[14:04] <@NihabaAshi> 2 only
[14:07] <+TraderG> I declare the recent ralley OFFICIALLY over.
[14:07] <+tomosyn57> Shorts SSO @ 24.25
[14:07] <+TraderG> unless it's not
[14:08] <+tomosyn57> exit stop set SSO @ 24.20
[14:08] <+jbuch> Covered all SPY Short @ 88.54 --> + 0.46
[14:08] <+jbuch> ba bam
[14:09] <+TraderG> $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
[14:09] <+TraderG> vn jb
[14:10] <+tomosyn57> your radar is working today
[14:10] <+tomosyn57> Trailing Stop Hit SSO @ 24.20 --> + 0.05
[14:11] <+jbuch> I am having good luck today.
[14:14] <@NihabaAshi> Lucky trade for me because my entry was "horrible".
[14:15] <@NihabaAshi> Covered 1/2 ES Short @ 879.75 --> + 4
[14:16] <+rickf> i'm thinking a close below 875 on the SPX will not bode well for the bulls
[14:16] <@NihabaAshi> I think I need glasses...couldn't tell the difference between 883.75 and 884.75
[14:16] <@NihabaAshi> Shorted when I thought the price was 884.75
[14:16] <+rickf> looking back to october, that seems to be a fair dividing line for a 'break point' in my view
[14:21] <MK> Long ES @ 884.25 -> Add «« paper »»
[14:21] <+MK> Long ES @ 880 -> Add «« paper »»
[14:24] <+TraderG> MK now there is a shortage of pulp in the western hemisphere....
[14:25] <+rickf> looking for an 881 short but wont take a short trade until prolly 2:45 or 3
[14:26] <+rickf> dont want to get trapped in the 2:30 pop :)
[14:28] <drt> s es 80.50
[14:32] <+drt> cs es 80
[14:37] <PeterPanBoy> hi all
[14:37] <+rickf> grrr again came w/in one tick of my sell order :(
[14:37] <+rickf> that's 3x today
[14:40] <+PeterPanBoy> Long ES @ 880.25 «« paper »»
[14:40] <+PeterPanBoy> Exited 1/3 ES Long @ 880.5 --> + 0.25 «« paper »»
[14:40] <+PeterPanBoy> Exited 1/3 ES Long @ 880.75 --> + 0.5 «« paper »»
[14:41] <+PeterPanBoy> Exited Remainder ES Long @ 880.25 --> 0 «« paper »»
[14:42] <+PeterPanBoy> Shorts ES @ 879.25 «« paper »»
[14:43] <+PeterPanBoy> let see if weak support or not..
[14:44] <+PeterPanBoy> Covered 1/3 ES Short @ 879 --> + 0.25 «« paper »»
[14:44] <+PeterPanBoy> Covered 1/3 ES Short @ 879 --> + 0.25 «« paper »»
[14:46] <+PeterPanBoy> go down baby ... :)
[14:46] <+PeterPanBoy> Covered Remainder ES Short @ 878.5 --> + 0.75 «« paper »»
[14:46] <+PeterPanBoy> no have patience to wait..
[14:59] <+PeterPanBoy> Long ES @ 879.5 «« paper »»
[14:59] <+PeterPanBoy> Exited 1/3 ES Long @ 879.75 --> + 0.25 «« paper »»
[14:59] <+PeterPanBoy> Exited 1/3 ES Long @ 879.75 --> + 0.25 «« paper »»
[15:00] <+PeterPanBoy> wanna keep a little more remainder
[15:00] <+PeterPanBoy> Exited Remainder ES Long @ 880 --> + 0.5 «« paper »»
[15:00] <+jbuch> do or die right here
[15:00] <+PeterPanBoy> yep
[15:01] <+PeterPanBoy> for me a bunch of seconds is right a long time keeping.. :)
[15:02] <+jbuch> below this range be dragons
[15:02] <+PeterPanBoy> try to go up without me on board
[15:02] <+PeterPanBoy> I do not care what I got is ok better little than nothing .. :)
[15:03] <@NihabaAshi> Covered Remainder ES Short @ 881.00 --> + 2.75
[15:03] <+PeterPanBoy> nice nihaba
[15:04] <+PeterPanBoy> let see if break 882 or not
[15:06] <+PeterPanBoy> Shorts ES @ 881.25 «« paper »»
[15:06] <+PeterPanBoy> Covered 1/3 ES Short @ 881.25 --> 0 «« paper »»
[15:06] <+PeterPanBoy> Covered 1/3 ES Short @ 881 --> + 0.25 «« paper »»
[15:06] <+jbuch> Shorts SPY @ 88.59
[15:06] <+PeterPanBoy> Covered Remainder ES Short @ 880.5 --> + 0.75 «« paper »»
[15:07] <+PeterPanBoy> fast and furious :)
[15:07] <+rickf> short es 880.75
[15:11] <+rickf> exit es 879.50 +1.50
[15:11] <+jbuch> Covered all SPY Short @ 88.46 --> + 0.13
[15:12] <+rickf> 1.25
[15:12] <@NihabaAshi> 7 Losers and 5 winners but I'm up +7 points for the day...
[15:12] <+PeterPanBoy> good
[15:12] <@NihabaAshi> Mainly because I kepted 5 of those losers at -1 point or less
[15:13] <@NihabaAshi> In contrast, 3 of my 5 winners were at +1.50 or more
[15:13] <+PeterPanBoy> yah but not easy know when to let the potential winner run
[15:14] <+PeterPanBoy> experience play his role
[15:14] <@NihabaAshi> I'm going to call it quits to ensure my day results as a profit.
[15:14] <@NihabaAshi> sidelined and watching the price action for the remainder of the day.
[15:15] <+PeterPanBoy> yep always put the bag in safe place and only watch the show after
[15:15] <@NihabaAshi> 2 of the losers were trade mistakes while 1 of the loser was a late entry.
[15:16] <@NihabaAshi> Only one of my profitable trades was a late entry and none were trade mistakes
[15:16] <+PeterPanBoy> Shorts ES @ 880.75 «« paper »»
[15:17] <+PeterPanBoy> Covered 1/3 ES Short @ 880.5 --> + 0.25 «« paper »»
[15:17] <+PeterPanBoy> Covered 1/3 ES Short @ 880.75 --> 0 «« paper »»
[15:17] <+PeterPanBoy> Covered Remainder ES Short @ 881.25 --> - 0.5 «« paper »»
[15:17] <+PeterPanBoy> Long ES @ 881.5 «« paper »»
[15:18] <+PeterPanBoy> Exited 1/3 ES Long @ 881.75 --> + 0.25 «« paper »»
[15:18] <+PeterPanBoy> Exited 1/3 ES Long @ 881.75 --> + 0.25 «« paper »»
[15:19] <+PeterPanBoy> let me get out breakheaven
[15:20] <+PeterPanBoy> Exited Remainder ES Long @ 881.75 --> + 0.25 «« paper »»
[15:20] <+PeterPanBoy> ok better than expeted :)
[15:30] <+PeterPanBoy> Long ES @ 882 «« paper »»
[15:31] <+PeterPanBoy> Exited 1/3 ES Long @ 883.25 --> + 1.25 «« paper »»
[15:31] <+PeterPanBoy> Exited 1/3 ES Long @ 883 --> + 1 «« paper »»
[15:32] <+PeterPanBoy> go up baby ... :)
[15:32] <+PeterPanBoy> yes go..
[15:32] <+PeterPanBoy> Exited Remainder ES Long @ 883.25 --> + 1.25 «« paper »»
[15:33] <+PeterPanBoy> lost patience
[15:34] <+PeterPanBoy> How another train without me on board :(
[15:38] <kosmipt> peter do you trade only last hour?
[15:45] <+PeterPanBoy> Long ES @ 884.5 «« paper »»
[15:46] <+PeterPanBoy> Exited 1/3 ES Long @ 885.25 --> + 0.75 «« paper »»
[15:46] <+PeterPanBoy> Exited 1/3 ES Long @ 885 --> + 0.5 «« paper »»
[15:47] <+PeterPanBoy> if not go up I exit
[15:47] <+PeterPanBoy> Exited Remainder ES Long @ 884.5 --> 0 «« paper »»
[15:48] <+PeterPanBoy> breakheaven exit
[15:49] <+PeterPanBoy> x kosmipt depend lately many thing to care for extra trading..
[15:49] <+kosmipt> looks like you're trading off tick charts or tape, so many trades
[15:50] <+PeterPanBoy> I used to look that for long time and see that move in minute chart
[15:51] <+PeterPanBoy> but not wait for bar to complete anyway fast frame for sure
[15:52] <+PeterPanBoy> wanna use more longer frame but at the end my fast temper come out :)
[15:53] <+Nesi> Covered all YM Short @ 8260 --> - 7309 «« simulator »»
[15:53] <+Nesi> wrong
[15:53] <+Nesi> +40
[15:54] <+Nesi> Covered all ES Short @ 885.00 --> + 7415 «« simulator »»
[15:54] <+Nesi> geez
[15:54] <+jbuch> :))
[15:54] <+Nesi> that is 32.5 + ...position trade from 917.50
[15:54] <+Nesi> good night all
[15:55] <+PeterPanBoy> take care all see you next time bye :)
[15:56] <+jbuch> same here night all
[15:58] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Archived trade posting chat logs have a new location. They are now stored @ viewforum.php?f=20
[16:15] <@NihabaAshi> Ding Ding Ding!

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