Session Start: Mon Feb 09 09:25:55 2009
Session Ident: #futurestrades
[09:25] * Now talking in #futurestrades
[09:25] <@X> [NihabaAshi] Announcement: The new trade posting script v3.7 (replaces v3.6) is posted at your forum in the "Announcements" thread.
[09:27] <rickf>
[09:27] <werner>
fickf,flow
[09:28] <+werner> lol
[09:28] <+rickf> fickf that's me
[09:28] <+werner> rickf
[09:28] <+rickf>
[09:28] <+werner>
[09:29] <@NihabaAshi> Good morning all
[09:29] <+rickf> hi wrbtrader
[09:29] <+werner>
wrbtrader
[09:29] <+rickf> may be a weird day - geitner delayed bailout details untl tomorrow
[09:30] <drt>
everyone
[09:35] <@NihabaAshi> Shorts ES @ 863.50 -> large size
[09:35] <@NihabaAshi> 6 only
[09:36] <szubaark> Shorts ES @ 862.75 «« paper »»
[09:36] <+rickf> long es 63
[09:37] <+szubaark> Covered all Short ES at 861.75 --> + 1 «« paper »»
[09:38] <@NihabaAshi> Covered all ES Short @ 862.00 --> + 1.5
[09:41] <jbuch> Long SPY @ 86.78
[09:41] <+rickf> out 63.50 +.50
[09:42] <+jbuch> Exited 1/2 SPY Long @ 86.88 --> + 0.1
[09:43] * +rickf figures - good entry, early exit
[09:43] <+rickf> owell - least the logic was right
[09:43] <+jbuch> Exited 1/4 SPY Long @ 86.98 --> + 0.2
[09:45] <TraderG>
[09:47] <pdays> Shorts TF @ 865.1
[09:48] <+pdays> Covered all TF Short @ 864.8 --> + 0.3
[09:48] <+rickf> hows TF trading since the move to ICE?
[09:48] <+pdays> not to bad
[09:48] <+pdays> as long as u have ur order waiting
[09:48] <+rickf>
[09:51] <pat255>
all
[09:51] <+szubaark> hi pat
[09:51] <+rickf> hrmmm i can't bring up the TF on Openecry
[09:51] <+rickf> weird
[09:51] * codehead_afk is now known as codehead
[09:54] <kosmipt>
[09:55] <@NihabaAshi> Shorts ES @ 866.00 -> small size
[09:55] <@NihabaAshi> 2 only
[09:55] <@NihabaAshi> trade error
[09:56] <+szubaark> Shorts ES @ 864.25 «« paper »»
[09:56] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Archived trade posting chat logs have a new location. They are now stored @
viewforum.php?f=20[09:56] <+jbuch> Exited Remainder SPY Long @ 86.89 --> + 0.11
[09:56] <@NihabaAshi> Covered all ES Short @ 864.00 --> + 2
[09:57] <@NihabaAshi> lucky trade
[09:57] <+szubaark> nice
[09:58] <+pat255> vn ...
[09:59] <+rickf> es is trading TIGHT this morning
[09:59] <+jbuch> Long SPY @ 86.94
[10:01] <+jbuch> Exited all SPY Long @ 86.90 --> - 0.04
[10:02] <+szubaark> Covered all Short ES at 863.25 --> + 1 «« paper »»
[10:02] <+szubaark> wasnt easy trade..almost bailed
[10:03] <+werner> Shorts NQ @ 1171
[10:03] <+werner> Covered all NQ Short @ 1169.50 --> + 1.5
[10:03] <+szubaark> good timing
[10:04] <+werner> tx
[10:04] <+rickf> long es 860.25
[10:06] <+rickf> out 59.50 -.50
[10:06] <+szubaark> so far slicing thru Support like butter
[10:06] <+rickf> er .75
[10:07] <+rickf> yeah
[10:09] <+rickf> llong es 860.25
[10:10] <+rickf> out 60.25 b/e
[10:17] <+werner> Shorts NQ @ 1271.00
[10:19] <+werner> Covered all NQ Short @ 1270.00 --> + 1
[10:19] <winmax60> Shorts NQ @ 1270 -> small size «« simulator »»
[10:28] <+rickf> yawb
[10:28] <+rickf> yawn
[10:30] <+szubaark> no major news today
[10:32] <+jbuch> Shorts SPY @ 86.69
[10:33] <+jbuch> Covered 3/4 SPY Short @ 86.58 --> + 0.11
[10:34] <+werner> nice
[10:34] <+jbuch> thnxs
[10:37] <codehead> short ES 863.75 2c <paper>
[10:37] <+codehead> short-term level
[10:42] <+rickf> short 867
[10:43] <+szubaark> we swooped up whole Opening range with that One candle... computer programs at work
[10:44] <+rickf> out 867 b/e
[10:48] <+winmax60> Covered all NQ Short @ 1278.25 --> - 8.25 «« simulator »»
[10:48] <+winmax60> bad case of trade management... :-((
[10:52] <kosmipt> Long ES @ 869.50 «« testing script »»
[10:53] <+kosmipt> Exited all ES Long @ 869.50 --> 0 «« testing script »»
[10:55] <+werner> Long NQ @ 1280.00
[10:57] <+werner> Exited all NQ Long @ 1281.50 --> + 1.5
[10:57] <+werner>
[10:58] <+szubaark> Buys ES @ 871 «« paper »»
[10:58] <+szubaark> Exited all Long ES at 872 --> + 1 «« paper »»
[11:07] <+rickf> slooooooow tape
[11:09] <Flow> Shorts ES @ 870.0
[11:10] <@NihabaAshi> Long ES @ 870.00 -> small size
[11:10] <@NihabaAshi> 3 only
[11:12] <+szubaark> Volatility starting to decline more now
[11:13] <+jbuch> Shorts SPY @ 87.39
[11:14] <+Flow> Covered all ES Short @ 869.25 --> + 0.75
[11:15] <+jbuch> Covered all SPY Short @ 87.37 --> + 0.02
[11:16] <+jbuch> Shorts SPY @ 87.39
[11:17] <@NihabaAshi> Exited all ES Long @ 869.25 --> - 0.75
[11:19] <+jbuch> Covered 1/2 SPY Short @ 87.29 --> + 0.1
[11:20] <+jbuch> Covered 1/4 SPY Short @ 87.22 --> + 0.17
[11:20] <+szubaark> nice
[11:22] <+jbuch> Covered Remainder SPY Short @ 87.29 --> + 0.1
[11:23] <+jbuch> thnxs
[11:26] <@NihabaAshi> Exited all ES Long @ 869.00 --> - 1
[11:26] <+jbuch> need some coffee BBL
[11:27] <@NihabaAshi> sorry...that was a position reversal from the prior losing Long @ 869.25
[11:27] <@NihabaAshi> Thus, the short is a +0.25 and not -1.00
[11:28] <+pat255> thing is soo much stuff is extremely overbought shorterm
[11:28] <+rickf> yeah
[11:28] <+rickf> both ES and YM showing prolonged uptrend shortterm
[11:30] <@NihabaAshi> Shorts ES @ 868.50 -> small size
[11:30] <@NihabaAshi> 3 only
[11:30] <+szubaark> lots of dojis out there today
[11:35] <@NihabaAshi> Covered all ES Short @ 867.00 --> + 1.5
[11:36] <+pat255> nice ...
[11:38] <+rickf> vn
[11:39] <@NihabaAshi> Shorts ES @ 867.00 -> small size
[11:40] <@NihabaAshi> 1 only
[11:41] <@NihabaAshi> Covered ES Short @ 866.00 --> + 1
[11:42] <+szubaark> nice scalp
[11:56] <+szubaark> Buys ES @ 866.50 «« paper »»
[11:57] <+szubaark> exit stop set ES @ 865 «« paper »»
[11:59] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Archived trade posting chat logs have a new location. They are now stored @
viewforum.php?f=20[12:01] <+szubaark> Exited all Long ES at 866.50 --> 0 «« paper »»
[12:01] * szubaark is now known as szubaark_away
[12:05] <+winmax60> Shorts NQ @ 1277.5 -> small size «« simulator »»
[12:09] <+winmax60> Covered all NQ Short @ 1276.5 --> + 1 «« simulator »»
[12:10] <+jbuch> Long SPY @ 87.01
[12:12] <+winmax60> Long NQ @ 1277.25 -> small size «« simulator »»
[12:12] <+jbuch> Exited 1/2 SPY Long @ 87.11 --> + 0.1
[12:14] <+winmax60> Exited all NQ Long @ 1277.25 --> 0 «« simulator »»
[12:15] <+jbuch> Exited all SPY Long @ 86.99 --> - 0.02
[12:16] <+rickf> pit audio is hysterical
[12:16] <+rickf> distracting but funny to listen ... they sound like robots from star wars
[12:18] <+szubaark_away> Buys ES @ 867 «« paper »»
[12:18] <+szubaark_away> 2nd try Long
[12:19] <+szubaark_away> Exited all Long ES at 868 --> + 1 «« paper »»
[12:20] <+szubaark_away> time for a break before i start Overtrading
[12:20] <+rickf> u green?
[12:20] <+rickf> then time to eat the lunch of the victorous
[12:21] <+rickf>
[12:22] <+szubaark_away> yes.. 4 for 4
[12:23] <+rickf> very good
[12:23] <+rickf>
[12:30] <+szubaark_away> Friday High re-test
[12:35] <+jbuch> Shorts SPY @ 87.29
[12:37] <+jbuch> Covered 1/2 SPY Short @ 87.19 --> + 0.1
[12:39] <+jbuch> Covered Remainder SPY Short @ 87.24 --> + 0.05
[12:41] <+jbuch> Long SPY @ 87.29
[12:43] <+jbuch> Exited all SPY Long @ 87.27 --> - 0.02
[12:44] <+jbuch> Shorts SPY @ 87.15
[12:45] <+jbuch> Covered all SPY Short @ 87.1 --> + 0.05
[12:45] <+szubaark_away> could get choppy here
[12:47] <+rickf> not playing it till after lunchti8me
[12:47] <+rickf> been burned too many times between 1145 and like 2
[12:47] <+szubaark_away> good idea rick
[12:47] <+rickf>
[12:52] <+rickf> geez is it me or does it feel like a big up day yet we've barely moved?
[12:53] <+szubaark_away> will be intresting what high of day test will be like
[12:53] <+rickf> true
[12:54] <+szubaark_away> 900 possible IF we break high
[12:55] <+rickf> we'll see .... take what we get
[12:55] <+rickf> lol
[12:57] <+werner> back
[13:01] <+jbuch> Shorts SPY @ 87.39
[13:01] <+werner> Long NQ @ 1281.50
[13:02] <+jbuch> Covered all SPY Short @ 87.45 --> - 0.06
[13:02] <+werner> Exited all NQ Long @ 1282.50 --> + 1
[13:03] <+szubaark_away> this is so tight here its even tough to scalp for ticks with their black boxes
[13:06] <+rickf> sitting aside is a good trade too
[13:19] <+jbuch> Shorts SPY @ 87.47
[13:20] <+jbuch> Covered 1/2 SPY Short @ 87.31 --> + 0.16
[13:23] <+jbuch> Covered 1/4 SPY Short @ 87.29 --> + 0.18
[13:23] <+werner> Shorts NQ @ 1281.00
[13:26] <+werner> Covered all NQ Short @ 1280.75 --> + 0.25
[13:31] <+codehead> short ES 868.00 stop 871.50 <paper>
[13:32] <+codehead> exit +2.25 half <paper>
[13:32] <+jbuch> Covered all SPY Short @ 87.01 --> + 0.46
[13:32] <+jbuch>
))
[13:32] <+codehead> stop 867.00 remainder <paper>
[13:32] <+jbuch>
))
[13:32] <+kosmipt> Long ES @ 866 «« simulator »»
[13:34] <+codehead> lowered stop 866.00 <paper>
[13:34] <+codehead> lower 865.50 <paper>
[13:34] <+codehead> exit ES +3.00 <paper>
[13:34] <+codehead> remainder
[13:34] <+werner> nice jbuch
[13:35] <+werner> nice guys
[13:35] <+kosmipt> Exited all ES Long @ 864 --> - 2 «« simulator »»
[13:35] <+szubaark_away> code, thats your Short from this Morning?
[13:35] <+szubaark_away> [10:37] <codehead> short ES 863.75 2c <paper>
[13:37] <+rickf> long es 864.25
[13:37] <+codehead> hm...
[13:37] <+codehead> oops, posted -2.25 stop-out in wrong room, sorry
[13:38] <+codehead> on the early trade today
[13:39] <+jbuch> Long SPY @ 86.91 -> small size
[13:39] <+rickf> out 65.25 +1
[13:40] <+jbuch> Exited all SPY Long @ 86.96 --> + 0.05
[13:45] <+kosmipt> Shorts ES @ 865.25 «« simulator »»
[13:56] <+rickf> i hate these indecisive days
[13:56] <+rickf> tomorrow should be a fun day to trade tho
[13:56] <+rickf> unless it's just a creeper-up or creeper-down
[14:01] <+kosmipt> Covered all ES Short @ 867.25 --> - 2 «« simulator »»
[14:05] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Archived trade posting chat logs have a new location. They are now stored @
viewforum.php?f=20[14:10] <+jbuch> Long SPY @ 87.12
[14:11] <+jbuch> Exited all SPY Long @ 87.09 --> - 0.03
[14:16] <+jbuch> Shorts SPY @ 86.8
[14:18] <Sidhartha> Shorts ES @ 863.25 «« simulator »»
[14:18] <+werner> Shorts NQ @ 1274.50
[14:18] <+jbuch> Covered all SPY Short @ 86.77 --> + 0.03
[14:21] <+werner> Shorts NQ @ 1277.00 -> Add
[14:22] <+werner> sorry late
[14:22] <+werner> Covered 1/2 NQ Short @ 1275.00 --> + 2
[14:25] <+jbuch> Shorts SPY @ 86.79
[14:26] <+werner> Covered Remainder NQ Short @ 1270.50 --> + 4
[14:26] <+jbuch> Covered 1/2 SPY Short @ 86.61 --> + 0.18
[14:26] <+werner> pfff
[14:26] <+szubaark_away> nice Shorts
[14:27] <+Sidhartha> Covered Remainder ES Short @ 861 --> + 2.25 «« simulator »»
[14:27] * szubaark_away is now known as szubaark
[14:28] <+rickf> vn
[14:29] <+jbuch> Covered 1/4 SPY Short @ 86.57 --> + 0.22
[14:31] <+jbuch> Covered Remainder SPY Short @ 86.68 --> + 0.11
[14:32] <+werner> nice
[14:33] <+jbuch> same to you
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[14:33] <+werner> tx
[14:37] <+jbuch> Shorts SPY @ 86.67
[14:38] <+jbuch> Covered all SPY Short @ 86.73 --> - 0.06
[14:39] <+werner> Shorts NQ @ 1273.75
[14:39] <+szubaark> today's chart getting confusing
[14:40] <+rickf> even hard to scalp the ym .... made 3-5 points on a few quick scalps -- nothin there
[14:40] <+werner> Covered all NQ Short @ 1273.50 --> + 0.25
[14:41] <+rickf> still looking long
[14:41] <+szubaark> Feels Overbought
[14:41] <drt> s ym 02
[14:45] <+werner> Shorts NQ @ 1271.50
[14:45] <+werner> Covered all NQ Short @ 1269.50 --> + 2
[14:50] <+codehead> ES tapped .618 retracment (lod to hod)
[14:50] <+codehead> at 860.50
[14:52] <+rickf> 860 es 8200 ym
[14:52] <+rickf> the struggle begins
[15:05] <+jbuch> Shorts SPY @ 86.69
[15:05] <+szubaark> bumping the downtrendline since 1:20 here
[15:06] <+szubaark> above 864 will Break it
[15:06] <+jbuch> Covered all SPY Short @ 86.77 --> - 0.08
[15:08] <+drt> cs ym 96
[15:09] <+szubaark> holding so far
[15:09] <+drt> l ym 99
[15:12] <+drt> stp l ym 89
[15:12] <+jbuch> Shorts SPY @ 86.69
[15:13] <+jbuch> Covered 1/2 SPY Short @ 86.59 --> + 0.1
[15:13] <+jbuch> Covered Remainder SPY Short @ 86.68 --> + 0.01
[15:14] <+rickf> 5pt es range since noontime. sheeesh
[15:14] <+Flow> Long ES @ 863.0
[15:15] <+jbuch> Long SPY @ 86.85
[15:15] <+kosmipt> Long ES @ 864.50 «« simulator »»
[15:16] <+jbuch> Exited 1/2 SPY Long @ 86.99 --> + 0.14
[15:16] <+rickf> vn
[15:19] <+werner> Shorts NQ @ 1277.25
[15:19] <+jbuch> Exited Remainder SPY Long @ 86.96 --> + 0.11
[15:19] <+werner> Covered all NQ Short @ 1277.50 --> - 0.25
[15:20] <+Flow> Exited all ES Long @ 865.00 --> + 2
[15:21] <+jbuch> Long SPY @ 87.03
[15:22] <+jbuch> Exited 1/2 SPY Long @ 87.15 --> + 0.12
[15:22] <+werner> Shorts NQ @ 1278.75
[15:23] <+kosmipt> Exited all ES Long @ 867.50 --> + 3 «« simulator »»
[15:23] <+jbuch> Exited 1/4 SPY Long @ 87.19 --> + 0.16
[15:24] <+werner> Covered all NQ Short @ 1279.00 --> - 0.25
[15:25] <+jbuch> Exited Remainder SPY Long @ 87.25 --> + 0.22
[15:26] <+werner> nice
[15:27] <+jbuch> thanks
[15:29] <+szubaark> 875 anyone?
[15:29] <+jbuch> does anybody use vol spikes and reversals on a smaller time frame for entrances and exit
[15:29] <+kosmipt> yes i do
[15:30] <+werner> no jbuch
[15:30] <+kosmipt> i'd like to see some momentum bar and then pick some retracement
[15:30] <+jbuch> I have been using them for exits but they look really god for getting in or reversing as well
[15:33] <+werner> i see what you mean
[15:33] <+jbuch> Ya Kos I am going to do some more backtesting on them before I use them to get into a trade but they seem very consistent
[15:33] <+jbuch> like right now
[15:34] <+werner> 1 min?
[15:34] <+jbuch> ya
[15:34] <+werner> ok
[15:35] <+jbuch> not really the best ex.
[15:35] <+kosmipt> you can use hammers or shooting stars combined with volume spike and oversold/overbought stochs to produce short term reversal signals
[15:35] <+kosmipt> but then i like to see some confirmation
[15:38] <+jbuch> ya I look for a second attempt at the high or low and if that fails and it against a prev rev
[15:38] <+jbuch> Shorts SPY @ 87.32
[15:38] <+jbuch> like now
[15:39] <+kosmipt> sounds good
[15:39] <+jbuch> Covered 1/2 SPY Short @ 87.19 --> + 0.13
[15:40] <+jbuch> Covered 1/4 SPY Short @ 87.12 --> + 0.2
[15:41] <+jbuch> Covered Remainder SPY Short @ 87.2 --> + 0.12
[15:45] <+drt> l ym 37
[15:46] <winmax60> Shorts NQ @ 1279.75 -> small size «« simulator »»
[15:48] <+winmax60> Covered all NQ Short @ 1278.25 --> + 1.5 «« simulator »»
[15:52] <+rickf> blah going to call it quits for the day
[15:52] <+rickf> have a good one se you tomorrow
[15:52] <+jbuch> cya rick
[15:54] <+jbuch> I am also thinking that spikes in the midddle of the range may be indicative of chop but haven't researched that at all
[15:54] <+werner> done here also ,cya all
[15:54] <+jbuch> cya werner
[15:54] <+werner>
[16:00] <+drt> cl ym 30
[16:07] <+jbuch> see everyone tomorrow
[16:08] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Archived trade posting chat logs have a new location. They are now stored @
viewforum.php?f=20[16:08] <+Flow> See you all
[16:19] <@NihabaAshi> Take care all and see all tomorrow.
Session Close: Mon Feb 09 16:20:10 2009
