Session Start: Wed Feb 11 09:30:29 2009
Session Ident: #futurestrades
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[09:32] <werner>
jbuch
[09:33] <jbuch> how's it going werner
[09:33] <kosmipt>
[09:33] <drt>
everyone
[09:34] <+kosmipt> Shorts ES @ 829.75 «« simulator »»
[09:34] <rickf>
[09:34] <+werner> good tx j
[09:35] <+jbuch> werner any predictions
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[09:35] <+werner>
rickf,kos ,drt
[09:35] <+werner> dont no
[09:35] <pdays> Shorts TF @ 448.0
[09:35] <+werner> i see wat we get
[09:35] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Archived trade posting chat logs have a new location. They are now stored @
viewforum.php?f=20[09:36] <+pdays> Covered all TF Short @ 447.1 --> + 0.9
[09:36] <+kosmipt> Covered all ES Short @ 829.50 --> + 0.25 «« simulator »»
[09:37] <TraderG>
every 1
[09:41] <+jbuch> Shorts SPY @ 83.6
[09:42] <+jbuch> Covered all SPY Short @ 83.59 --> + 0.01
[09:44] <+kosmipt> Shorts ES @ 831.25 «« simulator »»
[09:47] <+jbuch> Shorts SPY @ 82.53
[09:48] <+jbuch> Covered all SPY Short @ 83.62 --> - 1.09
[09:48] <+kosmipt> Covered all ES Short @ 833 --> - 1.75 «« simulator »»
[09:48] <szubaark> Buys ES @ 834 «« paper »»
[09:53] <+szubaark> exit stop set ES @ 833 «« paper »»
[09:55] <+szubaark> Exited all Long ES at 835 --> + 1 «« paper »»
[09:57] <+jbuch> Shorts SPY @ 83.79
[10:00] <+jbuch> Covered all SPY Short @ 83.72 --> + 0.07
[10:04] <+kosmipt> Shorts ES @ 832.75 «« simulator »»
[10:06] <Flow> morning all
[10:08] <+werner>
[10:09] <+codehead> long 1c ES 829.25 stop 828.75 <paper>
[10:11] <+codehead> sorry, stop 827.75
[10:14] <+jbuch> Shorts SPY @ 83.45
[10:15] <+szubaark> Shorts ES @ 828.75 «« paper »»
[10:15] <+jbuch> Covered 1/2 SPY Short @ 83.31 --> + 0.14
[10:16] <+szubaark> Covered all Short ES at 827.75 --> + 1 «« paper »»
[10:16] <+codehead> stopped -1.50 ES 1c <paper>
[10:17] <+kosmipt> gap fill is 827
[10:17] <+jbuch> Covered 1/4 SPY Short @ 83.21 --> + 0.24
[10:19] <+kosmipt> Covered all ES Short @ 828.50 --> + 4.25 «« simulator »»
[10:20] <+werner> nice guys
[10:21] <+rickf> vn
[10:21] <+jbuch> Covered Remainder SPY Short @ 83.29 --> + 0.16
[10:22] <+jbuch> thanks
[10:26] <+rickf> wow - i am likign the charts at ToS better than the charts at OEC
[10:27] <+szubaark> why?
[10:27] <+kosmipt> just opened an account with prop firm, they'll let me daytrade stocks without 25K rule, probably will start trading SPY, SSO live next week
[10:27] <+rickf> weird how they give different looks w/in the same time frame
[10:27] <+rickf> ToS also offers some nifty customizations that OEC doesn't
[10:27] <+jbuch> Shorts SPY @ 83.24
[10:27] <+rickf> may end up trading at OEC but using ToS chart
[10:28] <+kosmipt> afaik OEC has much lower commissions on futures
[10:28] <+rickf> they do
[10:28] <+szubaark> Shorts ES @ 827 «« paper »»
[10:30] <+jbuch> Covered 1/2 SPY Short @ 83.11 --> + 0.13
[10:30] <+szubaark> Covered all Short ES at 826 --> + 1 «« paper »»
[10:30] <+rickf> long es 826
[10:32] <+jbuch> Covered 1/4 SPY Short @ 83.01 --> + 0.23
[10:32] <+rickf> out b/e
[10:32] <+rickf> forgot 1030 news
[10:32] <+rickf>
[10:32] <+rickf> stupid didn't check the calendar first
[10:32] <+szubaark> nice jb..market has been good on runners This Week
[10:33] <+szubaark> we have Guithner speaking since 10AM Eastern...if it means anything
[10:37] <+jbuch> Covered Remainder SPY Short @ 83.11 --> + 0.13
[10:40] <+jbuch> thnks szu
[10:42] <+jbuch> kos can you sim spy now or do you need to have the account open
[10:45] <+rickf> short es 828.75
[10:49] <+rickf> out 929.50 -.75
[10:52] <+jbuch> Shorts SPY @ 83.
[10:54] <+jbuch> Covered 1/2 SPY Short @ 83.52 --> - 0.52
[10:55] <+jbuch> Covered Remainder SPY Short @ 83.57 --> - 0.57
[10:55] <+szubaark> Shorts ES @ 830.25 «« paper »»
[10:57] <+jbuch> Shorts SPY @ 83.5
[10:57] <+szubaark> Covered all Short ES at 832 --> - 1.75 «« paper »»
[10:57] <+szubaark> Trade Error
[10:59] <+jbuch> Covered all SPY Short @ 83.63 --> - 0.13
[11:00] <+rickf>
[11:02] <+jbuch> Shorts SPY @ 83.49
[11:03] <+szubaark> Shorts ES @ 830 «« paper »»
[11:04] <+jbuch> Covered all SPY Short @ 83.61 --> - 0.12
[11:05] <+szubaark> Covered all Short ES at 832 --> - 2 «« paper »»
[11:05] <+szubaark> Buys ES @ 832 «« paper »»
[11:06] <+szubaark> Chop has returned
[11:07] <+szubaark> Exited all Long ES at 830 --> - 2 «« paper »»
[11:07] <+szubaark> Shorts ES @ 830 «« paper »»
[11:08] <+szubaark> in Red now
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[11:12] <+szubaark> this 830 area Brutal
[11:13] <+szubaark> Covered all Short ES at 832.75 --> - 2.75 «« paper »»
[11:13] <+szubaark>
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[11:13] <+szubaark> Buys ES @ 832.75 «« paper »»
[11:14] <+jbuch> Long SPY @ 83.71
[11:14] <+werner> no trades here ..must go now...take care all
[11:14] <+szubaark> got me good in that area.. looks like its gonna be a Long day now trying to go BACK Positive
[11:16] <+jbuch> Exited all SPY Long @ 83.81 --> + 0.1
[11:16] <+jbuch>
[11:21] <Flow> Shorts ES @ 833.75
[11:25] <+szubaark> exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 832.75 «« paper »»
[11:26] <+szubaark> Exited all Long ES at 832.75 --> 0 «« paper »»
[11:29] <+szubaark> Buys ES @ 834 «« paper »»
[11:30] <+Flow> Covered all ES Short @ 834.25 --> - 0.5
[11:35] <+szubaark> Exited all Long ES at 832.50 --> - 1.5 «« paper »»
[11:35] <+szubaark> Shorts ES @ 832.75 «« paper »»
[11:38] <+jbuch> Shorts SPY @ 83.79
[11:42] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Archived trade posting chat logs have a new location. They are now stored @
viewforum.php?f=20[11:42] <+jbuch> Covered 3/4 SPY Short @ 83.59 --> + 0.2
[11:44] <+szubaark> Covered all Short ES at 832.75 --> 0 «« paper »»
[11:44] <+jbuch> Covered Remainder SPY Short @ 83.71 --> + 0.08
[11:46] <+szubaark> lots of Whipsaws Today
[11:48] <+szubaark> Shorts ES @ 831.75 «« paper »»
[11:48] <+szubaark> Intuition
[11:54] <+szubaark> gezzzz
[11:54] <+szubaark> Covered all Short ES at 831.75 --> 0 «« paper »»
[11:56] <+szubaark> Buys ES @ 832.75 «« paper »»
[11:59] <@NihabaAshi> Long ES @ 830.75 -> small size
[11:59] <@NihabaAshi> 3 only
[12:05] <+szubaark>
[12:05] <@NihabaAshi> Exited all ES Long @ 831.50 --> + 0.75
[12:06] <+jbuch> Shorts SPY @ 83.59
[12:07] <+jbuch> Covered all SPY Short @ 83.6 --> - 0.01
[12:07] <+szubaark> its gonna spike soon, either UP or DOWN
[12:08] <+szubaark> hopefully UP, Im Long
[12:11] <+szubaark> could go in Range CHOP MODE here
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[12:13] <+szubaark> terrible action
[12:13] <+jbuch> Shorts SPY @ 83.59
[12:14] <+szubaark> Exited all Long ES at 830.75 --> - 2 «« paper »»
[12:14] <+szubaark> Shorts ES @ 830.75 «« paper »»
[12:15] <+jbuch> Covered 1/2 SPY Short @ 83.4 --> + 0.19
[12:17] <+jbuch> Covered 1/4 SPY Short @ 83.31 --> + 0.28
[12:21] <+szubaark> Covered all Short ES at 829.50 --> + 1.25 «« paper »»
[12:22] <+jbuch> Covered all SPY Short @ 83.45 --> + 0.14
[12:27] <+codehead> ES has a cluster around 840
[12:28] <+codehead> 841-841
[12:28] <+codehead> for upside
[12:28] <+codehead> struggling right now tho, may have to go down before up
[12:29] <+codehead> sideways
[12:29] <+szubaark> Buys ES @ 830.75 «« paper »»
[12:31] <+jbuch> codehead do you base cluster on vap
[12:31] <+codehead> no
[12:31] <+codehead> fibs and wave symmetry
[12:31] <+codehead> geometry
[12:31] <+jbuch> thnks
[12:33] <+codehead> for instance, the monday high, 873.00 to yesterday's low, 840.00 is .382 retracement
[12:33] <+szubaark> Exited all Long ES at 829 --> - 1.75 «« paper »»
[12:33] <+szubaark> Shorts ES @ 829 «« paper »»
[12:33] <+codehead> so that's the first test for a bounce try
[12:35] <+szubaark> some good ol' CHOP today
[12:35] <+jbuch> thanks I will have to read up on fib and wave theory so I can follow what your saying in here
[12:36] <+szubaark> didnt Elliot die Broke?
[12:38] <+codehead> well, i'm not a wave counter
[12:38] <+codehead> just symmetry
[12:38] <+jbuch> common occurence in this biz I think
[12:39] <+codehead> potential inverted ghost on 3 min ES
[12:39] <+szubaark> Covered all Short ES at 830 --> - 1 «« paper »»
[12:39] <+szubaark> Buys ES @ 830 «« paper »»
[12:39] <+codehead> there was one on oil today that went for 1 point
[12:39] <+codehead> really nice setup
[12:39] <+szubaark> damn.. tough day..One Impulse trade put me in RED..
[12:39] <+codehead> momo trying to come out of oversold here
[12:49] <+jbuch> Shorts SPY @ 83.69
[12:49] <+szubaark> Exited all Long ES at 832 --> + 2 «« paper »»
[12:50] <+szubaark> Buys ES @ 833 «« paper »»
[12:50] <+jbuch> Covered all SPY Short @ 83.66 --> + 0.03
[12:51] <+szubaark> intuition
[12:54] <+jbuch> Shorts SPY @ 83.64
[12:56] <+jbuch> Covered 1/2 SPY Short @ 83.45 --> + 0.19
[12:56] <szubaark_away> Exited all Long ES at 829.50 --> - 3.5 «« paper »»
[12:56] <+szubaark_away>
[12:56] <+szubaark_away> Shorts ES @ 829.50 «« paper »»
[12:58] <+jbuch> Covered 1/4 SPY Short @ 83.31 --> + 0.33
[13:00] <+szubaark_away> gezz..testing re-testing over and over again
[13:00] <+jbuch> exit stop set SPY @ 83.43
[13:04] <+jbuch> Covered Remainder SPY Short @ 83.43 --> + 0.21
[13:05] <+jbuch> what a riot. straight up straight down and now maybe straight back up
[13:07] <+kosmipt> is the market closed on Mon?
[13:07] <+szubaark_away> Yersturday's drop sucked out all the Volatility out of this today so far
[13:08] <+kosmipt> we still may get huge volatility in the afternoon
[13:08] <+szubaark_away> Today feels like accumulation for the next move by the big boys..tough to even SCALP for ticks
[13:08] <+jbuch> Shorts SPY @ 83.29
[13:08] <+szubaark_away> ok..looking Bearish now
[13:09] <+szubaark_away> Greedy Profit Target on my Short due to all the prior Chop
[13:09] <+jbuch> Covered 1/2 SPY Short @ 83.15 --> + 0.14
[13:10] <+kosmipt> Long ES @ 827.25 «« simulator »»
[13:10] <+kosmipt> fading this move
[13:11] <+kosmipt> Exited all ES Long @ 828.25 --> + 1 «« simulator »»
[13:11] <+jbuch> Covered Remainder SPY Short @ 83.22 --> + 0.07
[13:12] <+szubaark_away> should get ugly below 824 again.. everyone waiting for Price to get there,which is what i should have done
[13:17] <+szubaark_away> exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 829.50 «« paper »»
[13:21] <+szubaark_away> Covered all Short ES at 829.50 --> 0 «« paper »»
[13:22] * szubaark_away is now known as szubaark
[13:26] <+jbuch> Shorts SPY @ 83.29
[13:26] <+szubaark> Shorts ES @ 827.75 «« paper »»
[13:27] <+szubaark>
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[13:27] <+jbuch> Covered all SPY Short @ 83.25 --> + 0.04
[13:31] <+szubaark> easy to get shaken out due to the non-existant Volatility
[13:33] <+jbuch> Shorts SPY @ 83.19
[13:34] <+szubaark> lots of Faders out there today
[13:37] <+jbuch> Covered 1/2 SPY Short @ 83.06 --> + 0.13
[13:37] <+jbuch> Covered Remainder SPY Short @ 83.12 --> + 0.07
[13:39] <+kosmipt> Long ES @ 827 «« simulator »»
[13:40] <+jbuch> Shorts SPY @ 83.09
[13:40] <+kosmipt> Exited all ES Long @ 825.75 --> - 1.25 «« simulator »»
[13:44] <+jbuch> Covered 1/2 SPY Short @ 82.91 --> + 0.18
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viewforum.php?f=20[13:45] <+szubaark> Covered all Short ES at 824.50 --> + 3.25 «« paper »»
[13:46] <+jbuch> Covered 1/4 SPY Short @ 82.81 --> + 0.28
[13:47] <@NihabaAshi> Just got back from some personal stuff.
[13:48] <+szubaark> Shorts ES @ 822.50 «« paper »»
[13:48] <+kosmipt> things are getting ugly again
[13:49] <+rickf> bak
[13:51] <+jbuch> Covered Remainder SPY Short @ 82.61 --> + 0.48
[13:58] <+TraderG> that is almost 5 ES points. very nice jbuch
[13:59] <winmax60> Shorts NQ @ 1212 -> small size «« simulator »»
[14:00] <+jbuch> thnks traderg
[14:00] <@NihabaAshi> Long ES @ 823.25 -> small size
[14:01] <@NihabaAshi> 3 only
[14:01] <+winmax60> Covered all NQ Short @ 1214 --> - 2 «« simulator »»
[14:05] <+jbuch> Shorts SPY @ 82.84
[14:05] <@NihabaAshi> Exited all ES Long @ 823.75 --> + 0.5
[14:09] <+jbuch> Covered all SPY Short @ 82.8 --> + 0.04
[14:12] <+winmax60> Shorts NQ @ 1214 -> small size «« simulator »»
[14:13] <+kosmipt> Shorts ES @ 822.75 «« simulator »»
[14:13] <+winmax60> Covered all NQ Short @ 1211.5 --> + 2.5 «« simulator »»
[14:22] <+kosmipt> missed the exit
[14:24] <+kosmipt> Covered all ES Short @ 819.75 --> + 3 «« simulator »»
[14:24] <+kosmipt> bouncing from yesterday's low
[14:25] <+szubaark> Covered all Short ES at 821.75 --> + 0.75 «« paper »»
[14:25] <+szubaark> got greedy thought gonna bust thru
[14:25] <+szubaark> Buys ES @ 824 «« paper »»
[14:25] <+kosmipt> man it's fast
[14:26] <+kosmipt> we still have characteristics of a range bound day
[14:27] <+rickf> yeah
[14:28] <+szubaark> Exited all Long ES at 825.25 --> + 1.25 «« paper »»
[14:36] <@NihabaAshi> Long ES @ 826.00 -> small size
[14:36] <@NihabaAshi> 2 only
[14:36] <@NihabaAshi> chasing
[14:36] <+kosmipt> Shorts ES @ 826.50 «« simulator »»
[14:36] <+szubaark> we bounced off important support
[14:37] <+kosmipt> yup very nice technical bounce
[14:37] <+kosmipt> Covered all ES Short @ 826.50 --> 0 «« simulator »»
[14:38] <@NihabaAshi> Exited all ES Long @ 826.25 --> + 0.25
[14:38] <+winmax60> Shorts NQ @ 1217.75 -> small size «« simulator »»
[14:41] <+winmax60> Covered all NQ Short @ 1217.75 --> 0 «« simulator »»
[14:45] <+szubaark> Shorts ES @ 826.50 «« paper »»
[14:48] <+szubaark> Covered all Short ES at 826.50 --> 0 «« paper »»
[14:49] <+winmax60> Shorts NQ @ 1218.25 -> small size «« simulator »»
[14:49] <+szubaark>
[14:50] <+rickf> long es 826
[14:50] <+rickf> 826.25
[14:51] <+rickf> out 829.50 +2.25
[14:51] <+winmax60> Covered all NQ Short @ 1219.75 --> - 1.5 «« simulator »»
[14:51] <+szubaark> Buys ES @ 829 «« paper »»
[14:52] <@NihabaAshi> Long ES @ 830.00 -> small size
[14:52] <@NihabaAshi> 2 only
[14:52] <+szubaark> Volatility increasing
[14:52] <+rickf> ya think?
[14:52] <+rickf>
[14:53] <@NihabaAshi> Exited all ES Long @ 831.00 --> + 1
[14:53] <+rickf> short es 831
[14:54] <+rickf> out 830 +1
[14:54] <+rickf> prolyl could hold
[14:54] <+drt> l ym 03
[14:56] <+szubaark> Tightening Stop
[14:56] <+szubaark> Exited all Long ES at 833 --> + 4 «« paper »»
[14:59] <+szubaark> Buys ES @ 832 «« paper »»
[15:00] <+rickf> long es 833
[15:00] <+drt> cl ym 23
[15:00] <+rickf> out 32 -1
[15:01] <+rickf> short es 831
[15:01] <+rickf> out 32.25 -1.25
[15:01] <+rickf> 1 c
[15:04] <+rickf> short es 831.50
[15:04] <@NihabaAshi> Shorts ES @ 831.00 -> small size
[15:05] <@NihabaAshi> 3 only
[15:05] <@NihabaAshi> Covered all ES Short @ 832.00 --> - 1
[15:06] <@NihabaAshi> Shorts ES @ 832.00 -> small size
[15:06] <@NihabaAshi> 3 only
[15:08] <@NihabaAshi> Covered ES Short @ 832.75 --> - 0.75
[15:08] <@NihabaAshi> Reverse and Enter Long ES @ 832.75
[15:09] <+szubaark> Exited all Long ES at 832 --> 0 «« paper »»
[15:09] <+rickf> out 31.50 b/e
[15:09] <+rickf> bleh
[15:10] <+szubaark> spike chop, spike chop
[15:10] <+rickf> 831-33 hard resistance
[15:10] <+szubaark> Buys ES @ 832.25 «« paper »»
[15:11] <+rickf> short es 832
[15:11] <+rickf> 1 ct
[15:12] <+szubaark> Exited all Long ES at 832 --> - 0.25 «« paper »»
[15:13] <@NihabaAshi> Exited all ES Long @ 832.25 --> - 0.5
[15:13] <+rickf> out 32 b/e
[15:14] <+szubaark> Buys ES @ 833.50 «« paper »»
[15:14] <+rickf> gonna wait for a breakout
[15:14] <+rickf> trying to catch one is suicide
[15:14] <+rickf> catch the retrace
[15:15] <@NihabaAshi> Long ES @ 833.00 -> small size
[15:15] <@NihabaAshi> 3 only
[15:16] <@NihabaAshi> Exited all ES Long @ 833.00 --> 0
[15:17] <+szubaark> nail biter
[15:17] <@NihabaAshi> be right back...got a little distraction
[15:17] * NihabaAshi is now known as NihabaAshi_away
[15:19] <+szubaark> Exited all Long ES at 833.50 --> 0 «« paper »»
[15:19] <+szubaark>
[15:19] <+rickf>
[15:19] <+szubaark> not easy
[15:20] <+rickf> smacking right into hard resistance
[15:20] <+szubaark> Shorts ES @ 832 «« paper »»
[15:22] <+szubaark> Covered all Short ES at 831 --> + 1 «« paper »»
[15:23] <+kosmipt> Shorts ES @ 831.50 «« simulator »»
[15:23] <+rickf> long es 31.50 1ct
[15:24] <+szubaark> the next move is being well disquised now
[15:25] <+rickf> out 31.75 +.25
[15:29] <+kosmipt> Covered all ES Short @ 830.50 --> + 1 «« simulator »»
[15:29] <+kosmipt> done for the day
[15:30] <Sidhartha> Shorts ES @ 832.25 «« simulator »»
[15:38] <@NihabaAshi_away> Shorts ES @ 828.50 -> small size
[15:38] <@NihabaAshi_away> 3 only
[15:39] * NihabaAshi_away is now known as NihabaAshi
[15:41] <@NihabaAshi> Covered all ES Short @ 828.00 --> + 0.5
[15:42] <+szubaark> Shorts ES @ 827.50 «« paper »»
[15:42] <@NihabaAshi> Shorts ES @ 827.00 -> small size
[15:42] <+szubaark> Covered all Short ES at 826.50 --> + 1 «« paper »»
[15:42] <@NihabaAshi> 3 only
[15:43] <+szubaark> thing im gonna call it a day.. small losing day
[15:43] * szubaark is now known as szubaark_away
[15:44] <@NihabaAshi> tough support area here
[15:46] <@NihabaAshi> Covered all ES Short @ 827.25 --> - 0.25
[15:47] <+jbuch> Shorts SPY @ 83.19
[15:47] <@NihabaAshi> Long ES @ 827.75 -> small size
[15:47] <@NihabaAshi> 3 only
[15:49] <+jbuch> Covered all SPY Short @ 83.29 --> - 0.1
[15:49] <@NihabaAshi> Exited all ES Long @ 829.25 --> + 1.5
[15:50] <+jbuch> Shorts SPY @ 83.34
[15:51] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Archived trade posting chat logs have a new location. They are now stored @
viewforum.php?f=20[15:51] <+rickf> ok gonna quit ... market is just treading water
[15:51] <+rickf> have a good one see y'all tomorrow
[15:52] <+jbuch> Covered 1/2 SPY Short @ 83.26 --> + 0.08
[15:52] <@NihabaAshi> Long ES @ 828.50 -> small size
[15:52] <@NihabaAshi> 1 only
[15:53] <+jbuch> Covered Remainder SPY Short @ 83.33 --> + 0.01
[15:55] <@NihabaAshi> Exited ES Long @ 830.25 --> + 1.75
[15:58] <+jbuch> Long SPY @ 83.51
[16:01] <+jbuch> Exited all SPY Long @ 83.58 --> + 0.07
[17:38] <Sidhartha> Covered all ES Short @ 833 --> - 0.75 «« simulator »»
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viewforum.php?f=20Session Close: Wed Feb 11 18:18:31 2009